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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " … I hate seeing BBC in profile names if I had white in my profile name I’d get a load of shit and probably have a fab strike against me I detest getting messages from men saying BBC as if they just have to have a black cock and all women should drop their knickers and shag them That mentality is behind a lot of the grooming gangs around the UK | |||
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"I'm sure we had the, almost, identical thread to this 2 or 4 weeks ago." This won’t be the last time. | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " Having a preference for dark skin or light skin isn't racist, no more than preferring blondes or brunettes is. I personally have no preference for skin colours or hair colours, although I do have a preference for nice tits. I too am not a fan of the fetishization of race and I also find terms like "BBC" and "Queen of Spades" to be derogatory and racist. On the other hand though, there are many guys that use these things as a selling point. The only way that those terms will disappear is if those they're aimed at refuse to acknowledge them. Cal | |||
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" I detest getting messages from men saying BBC as if they just have to have a black cock and all women should drop their knickers and shag them That mentality is behind a lot of the grooming gangs around the UK " Excuse me? Surely grooming is by definition an activity that takes time and careful persuasion rather than a mentality that a person will drop their knickers at the the sight of your cock? Or are you suggesting something else entirely? For what it's worth I don't think using words like BBC is racist though its certainly fetishism of a person's body and skin colour. As such it's no different to fetishisizing anything else - I want to fuck an older/younger/big boobed/BWC etc etc. That isn't to say it is mutually exclusive of racism but that's a different idea. Mr | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " . Not controversial at all. Just pretty pathetic. People put on their profiles what they are looking for. What they fancy a bit of. Virtually everyone except you seems to realise this obvious point and know perfectly well that it has nothing to do with racism or any sort of discimination. It’s all about making it easier for like minded people to meet. | |||
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"I think we need to remember that racism is an act of hate. To literally discriminate purely for the someone's race because you belive you are superior because of your race. I don't think anyone who says they like BBC fall into this and I'm sure those that don't like BBC as a preference don't like it because of superiority. " Racism isn’t about hate. That’s absurd. Saying all black people can dance, all black men have big cocks, all black men can run fast, all Chinese people are cleaver, they are all racist stereotypes but all are positive. I get that it’s a preference, I just find preferences based on race very disturbing. And for any black guys to be ok just getting laid because his black (no other reason I might add) is also very sad and disturbing. White people can justify it all they like but you have no right to say it’s OK. | |||
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"OP finds it offensive when people will only meet what he isn’t I wonder if he’s equally offended at the accounts saying “white people only” " Yeah I was waiting for some turd to throw that one my way. Yes saying I only meet white people is equally as racist. Literally write off half the population of the world due to pigments in their skin is 1960s shit . Btw No one will change my mind on this. It’s by definition Racist and a bunch of thirsty white people ain’t ever going to convince me other wise. | |||
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"I think we need to remember that racism is an act of hate. To literally discriminate purely for the someone's race because you belive you are superior because of your race. I don't think anyone who says they like BBC fall into this and I'm sure those that don't like BBC as a preference don't like it because of superiority. Racism isn’t about hate. That’s absurd. Saying all black people can dance, all black men have big cocks, all black men can run fast, all Chinese people are cleaver, they are all racist stereotypes but all are positive. I get that it’s a preference, I just find preferences based on race very disturbing. And for any black guys to be ok just getting laid because his black (no other reason I might add) is also very sad and disturbing. White people can justify it all they like but you have no right to say it’s OK. " Tbf OP, this topic usually gets a mixed reaction. To get everyone agreeing it's just a preference not racist is pretty rare. I'd have to go back and read your OP again but I suspect that to get such a unanimous reaction you've worded it in a way that turns people against what you're saying. I take your point about stereotypes though I will say a liking for big black cock isn't the same thing as believing black men all have big cocks. I do however feel sorry for those that have small ones, the fora show enough negativity about small penises as it is without having to deal with the added expectations of a racial stereotype. Mr | |||
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"I think we need to remember that racism is an act of hate. To literally discriminate purely for the someone's race because you belive you are superior because of your race. I don't think anyone who says they like BBC fall into this and I'm sure those that don't like BBC as a preference don't like it because of superiority. Racism isn’t about hate. That’s absurd. Saying all black people can dance, all black men have big cocks, all black men can run fast, all Chinese people are cleaver, they are all racist stereotypes but all are positive. I get that it’s a preference, I just find preferences based on race very disturbing. And for any black guys to be ok just getting laid because his black (no other reason I might add) is also very sad and disturbing. White people can justify it all they like but you have no right to say it’s OK. " You get the preferences but you find them disturbing. Well you finding something disturbing doesn't make it racist. You say that white people have no right to say it's OK. I'm so fed up of posts like this being made by white people. You are contributingto that divide | |||
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"I'm sure we had the, almost, identical thread to this 2 or 4 weeks ago." To save time. What was the conclusion? | |||
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"I think we need to remember that racism is an act of hate. To literally discriminate purely for the someone's race because you belive you are superior because of your race. I don't think anyone who says they like BBC fall into this and I'm sure those that don't like BBC as a preference don't like it because of superiority. Racism isn’t about hate. That’s absurd. Saying all black people can dance, all black men have big cocks, all black men can run fast, all Chinese people are cleaver, they are all racist stereotypes but all are positive. I get that it’s a preference, I just find preferences based on race very disturbing. And for any black guys to be ok just getting laid because his black (no other reason I might add) is also very sad and disturbing. White people can justify it all they like but you have no right to say it’s OK. " I don't think 'white people' are trying to justify anything at all. Some are just explaining that it's a preference and a fetish, rather than having any racist undertones. The only person I've seen claiming a link between the preference/fetish and any racist motivation behind them is you OP. Racist views and behaviour are determined by the motivation and belief behind actions and words. Choosing to have sex with someone because you find a particularly physical characteristic attractive (in this case skin colour) isn't in the slightest bit racist. Plastering 'won't fuck blacks/asians/anyotherethnicity' all over your profile is. Stereotypes can be born out of racism. They can also be born out of simple ignorance. Most aren't true at all. Your post isn't controversial at all OP. It's been debated many times before and as far as I can remember always with the same outcome. It's not racist. A | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " What about men who like brunettes and blondes? Gingers etc . Women are only attracted to taller men etc isn't that offensive to shorter guys ? Unfortunately everyone has their own preferences. Nothing you can do or change about that | |||
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"OP finds it offensive when people will only meet what he isn’t I wonder if he’s equally offended at the accounts saying “white people only” Yeah I was waiting for some turd to throw that one my way. Yes saying I only meet white people is equally as racist. Literally write off half the population of the world due to pigments in their skin is 1960s shit . Btw No one will change my mind on this. It’s by definition Racist and a bunch of thirsty white people ain’t ever going to convince me other wise. " What about the black people who say they're ok with it and use BBC as their USP on a swinging site? | |||
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" And don't get me started on gingers!!!! What about us Gingers??" Reduces blood pressure? | |||
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"Reducing and referring to someone as a single part of their anatomy goes beyond simple preference " What if they do it themselves? The amount of guys with BBC in their usernames is remarkably high. It's almost as if they're proud of it. | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " I think the amount of black men with BBC in their name make it clear they fetishise themselves, same applies to the porn industry. I think its crass in the extreme, both the men advertising themselves in thst way and the women who seek nothing more than a BBC. But it's their choice | |||
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"Reducing and referring to someone as a single part of their anatomy goes beyond simple preference What if they do it themselves? The amount of guys with BBC in their usernames is remarkably high. It's almost as if they're proud of it. " Everybody needs a USP | |||
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"I'm sure we had the, almost, identical thread to this 2 or 4 weeks ago. To save time. What was the conclusion? " Pretty much the same as where this one seems to be heading. | |||
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"I think we need to remember that racism is an act of hate. To literally discriminate purely for the someone's race because you belive you are superior because of your race. I don't think anyone who says they like BBC fall into this and I'm sure those that don't like BBC as a preference don't like it because of superiority. Racism isn’t about hate. That’s absurd. Saying all black people can dance, all black men have big cocks, all black men can run fast, all Chinese people are cleaver, they are all racist stereotypes but all are positive. I get that it’s a preference, I just find preferences based on race very disturbing. And for any black guys to be ok just getting laid because his black (no other reason I might add) is also very sad and disturbing. White people can justify it all they like but you have no right to say it’s OK. You get the preferences but you find them disturbing. Well you finding something disturbing doesn't make it racist. You say that white people have no right to say it's OK. I'm so fed up of posts like this being made by white people. You are contributingto that divide " Well said | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " Your time woukd be better spent learning what racism is! | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " ............................... For me it isn't about having a racial preference, it's how that preference is described. So terms like Big Black Cock (to describe a human being ffs), blacked, spade, bull etc etc etc are reductionist and defer to baser human instincts and porn inspired stereotypes, themselves influenced by historical stereotypes and objectification of black people. | |||
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"If you can't differentiate between people's sexual preferences, fetishes with real world discrimination, it's your problem. What next? A dominant man looking for a submissive woman is a misogynist? " You surely know that many people consider dominant men to be misogynist abusers and submissive women apologists for abuse and weak. | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves ............................... For me it isn't about having a racial preference, it's how that preference is described. So terms like Big Black Cock (to describe a human being ffs), blacked, spade, bull etc etc etc are reductionist and defer to baser human instincts and porn inspired stereotypes, themselves influenced by historical stereotypes and objectification of black people. " Absolutely agree with this. If as a white woman, I find it uncomfortable to see these terms used about human beings, I cannot imagine how black people must feel. And then the constant gaslighting and denial of any racism existing here. | |||
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" Come on. There's a lot of black men working hard to perpetuate the stereotype and more than a few do all right out of it too. Mr" Equally there's a lot of black men who don't, yet remain victims to the negative vernacular, here and in their real lives. This isn't a new phenomenon for black people, the ones who embrace stereotypes for their own interests are perfectly entitled to do so, as are the white people who find them appealing, however that doesn't kill the debate, others are equally as entitled to highlight an alternative view, they've been pretty much silent (and silenced) up until now. | |||
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"Lemme drop my two pence in this conversation… I detest the term “BBC” and how it’s used as a universal term to describe every black man. Although at the same time I’ve been told I have no right to whinge about this because I go to interracial events can’t really win can you. I’ve been to many and not ever felt objectified or fetishised in any way. Fact of the matter is some black guys don’t care because it means they get their leg over so play up to the stereotype, others (like myself) just find it very distasteful and extremely cringey to a certain extent. " .......................... Well said | |||
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" Also not that it matters, but I’m actually mixed race. " Do you prefer that term to "of dual heritage" ? | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " Let's say your right for arguments sake....what you gonna do about it? | |||
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"Anyway, the weather looks like it’ll be nice today. " You'll enjoy it in your rubber ball outfit | |||
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"OP finds it offensive when people will only meet what he isn’t I wonder if he’s equally offended at the accounts saying “white people only” Yeah I was waiting for some turd to throw that one my way. Yes saying I only meet white people is equally as racist. Literally write off half the population of the world due to pigments in their skin is 1960s shit . Btw No one will change my mind on this. It’s by definition Racist and a bunch of thirsty white people ain’t ever going to convince me other wise. " . Ah, so now anyone who disagrees with you is a turd ? As i said before. Pathetic | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy." .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. | |||
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"OP finds it offensive when people will only meet what he isn’t I wonder if he’s equally offended at the accounts saying “white people only” Yeah I was waiting for some turd to throw that one my way. Yes saying I only meet white people is equally as racist. Literally write off half the population of the world due to pigments in their skin is 1960s shit . Btw No one will change my mind on this. It’s by definition Racist and a bunch of thirsty white people ain’t ever going to convince me other wise. " Wow! you really did just call someone a turd! You got your reaction, can't help but wonder what if noone commented? Clearly you like creating a bit of drama, is that what gets you off?! | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes." The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. | |||
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"Anyway, the weather looks like it’ll be nice today. " Remember to drink lots of water today Rex wearing an outfit like that | |||
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". What about the black people who say they're ok with it and use BBC as their USP on a swinging site? " .......................... Fine by me, but they don't speak for all black men, yet the fetish term "BBC" has become the accepted description for ALL black men, which is clearly ridiculous! | |||
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"Right to clear a few things up! As there is some education needed here. Being positive doesn’t stop it from being racist! Fetishisation of a race is and has been a huge problem for hundreds of years. And actually leads to many racial and sexual assaults Also ….” I’m sick and tired of white people standing up for racism “ is the best quote I’ve ever seen. Congratulations!!! You just Won the internet. Also not that it matters, but I’m actually mixed race. And having most of my family and friends as people of Colour. Trust me when I say it’s offensive to hear some Middle Ages white guy say “I wanna see my wife fucked by a black man!!! “ Also yes having a fetish for someone who is trans is still wrong and highly offensive to the LGBTQ community. Prove me wrong I fucking dare you !!!! " One tiny piece of feedback.. Try educating us with less aggression and maybe not make it all about you. I think I will duck out of the next class | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy." Black guys call each other by the N word and aren't offended. Are you suggesting this makes the word OK for everyone to use? I'm not taking a side here, I personally think the debate is far more nuanced than most people on either side allow but I thought it important to point out the flaw in this line of reasoning. Mr | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing." ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing." I've no issue applying real world morals here. You choose not to but don't assume we are all the same. | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes." I'm not offended on behalf of anyone? | |||
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"Right to clear a few things up! As there is some education needed here. Being positive doesn’t stop it from being racist! Fetishisation of a race is and has been a huge problem for hundreds of years. And actually leads to many racial and sexual assaults Also ….” I’m sick and tired of white people standing up for racism “ is the best quote I’ve ever seen. Congratulations!!! You just Won the internet. Also not that it matters, but I’m actually mixed race. And having most of my family and friends as people of Colour. Trust me when I say it’s offensive to hear some Middle Ages white guy say “I wanna see my wife fucked by a black man!!! “ Also yes having a fetish for someone who is trans is still wrong and highly offensive to the LGBTQ community. Prove me wrong I fucking dare you !!!! One tiny piece of feedback.. Try educating us with less aggression and maybe not make it all about you. I think I will duck out of the next class " He claims education, I think more fanning the flames. Watch how many fall for it though, the art of online debate is the real unicorn here | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that." So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. Black guys call each other by the N word and aren't offended. Are you suggesting this makes the word OK for everyone to use? I'm not taking a side here, I personally think the debate is far more nuanced than most people on either side allow but I thought it important to point out the flaw in this line of reasoning. Mr" No, because of I called them that they would be offended. You are making my point for me, if Black guys aren't offended by the situation you described, I have no right to complain and be offended on their behalf. But if anyone is offended by something people should chance their attitude and actions accordingly To dumb it down I dont like being called Jimmy, so I ask people never to call me that, other people dont mind veing called Jimmy, I cant then decide that no one should call him Jimmy because I dont like it. | |||
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" Also not that it matters, but I’m actually mixed race. Do you prefer that term to "of dual heritage" ?" No because my heritage is English | |||
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"Anyway, the weather looks like it’ll be nice today. Remember to drink lots of water today Rex wearing an outfit like that " It’s full of water so it makes me cool | |||
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"Anyway, the weather looks like it’ll be nice today. Remember to drink lots of water today Rex wearing an outfit like that It’s full of water so it makes me cool " I thought it might be helium | |||
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" Remember to drink lots of water today Rex wearing an outfit like that It’s full of water so it makes me cool I thought it might be helium " It is only the weight of his huge testicles which keeps him grounded | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves … I hate seeing BBC in profile names if I had white in my profile name I’d get a load of shit and probably have a fab strike against me I detest getting messages from men saying BBC as if they just have to have a black cock and all women should drop their knickers and shag them That mentality is behind a lot of the grooming gangs around the UK " absolutely agree with this | |||
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"Right to clear a few things up! As there is some education needed here. Being positive doesn’t stop it from being racist! Fetishisation of a race is and has been a huge problem for hundreds of years. And actually leads to many racial and sexual assaults Also ….” I’m sick and tired of white people standing up for racism “ is the best quote I’ve ever seen. Congratulations!!! You just Won the internet. Also not that it matters, but I’m actually mixed race. And having most of my family and friends as people of Colour. Trust me when I say it’s offensive to hear some Middle Ages white guy say “I wanna see my wife fucked by a black man!!! “ Also yes having a fetish for someone who is trans is still wrong and highly offensive to the LGBTQ community. Prove me wrong I fucking dare you !!!! " You've muss quoted me darling. Try and get it right if you're going to directly quote someone | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists?" .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. Black guys call each other by the N word and aren't offended. Are you suggesting this makes the word OK for everyone to use? I'm not taking a side here, I personally think the debate is far more nuanced than most people on either side allow but I thought it important to point out the flaw in this line of reasoning. Mr No, because of I called them that they would be offended. You are making my point for me, if Black guys aren't offended by the situation you described, I have no right to complain and be offended on their behalf. But if anyone is offended by something people should chance their attitude and actions accordingly To dumb it down I dont like being called Jimmy, so I ask people never to call me that, other people dont mind veing called Jimmy, I cant then decide that no one should call him Jimmy because I dont like it." But you are making the assumption that because some black men are ok with it they all should be. Mr | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves … I hate seeing BBC in profile names if I had white in my profile name I’d get a load of shit and probably have a fab strike against me I detest getting messages from men saying BBC as if they just have to have a black cock and all women should drop their knickers and shag them That mentality is behind a lot of the grooming gangs around the UK absolutely agree with this" I'm still awaiting an explanation of the grooming gang bit. As above, grooming by definition isn't an expectation of anything, it's a careful thought out process designed to coerce a person. I suspect that what this comment absolutely is a display of racism but I've not had an answer to an earlier question so can't be certain Mr | |||
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"Right to clear a few things up! As there is some education needed here. Being positive doesn’t stop it from being racist! Fetishisation of a race is and has been a huge problem for hundreds of years. And actually leads to many racial and sexual assaults Also ….” I’m sick and tired of white people standing up for racism “ is the best quote I’ve ever seen. Congratulations!!! You just Won the internet. Also not that it matters, but I’m actually mixed race. And having most of my family and friends as people of Colour. Trust me when I say it’s offensive to hear some Middle Ages white guy say “I wanna see my wife fucked by a black man!!! “ Also yes having a fetish for someone who is trans is still wrong and highly offensive to the LGBTQ community. Prove me wrong I fucking dare you !!!! You've muss quoted me darling. Try and get it right if you're going to directly quote someone" It’s called paragraphing “darling” I don’t actually think it was you I was quoting either | |||
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"Right to clear a few things up! As there is some education needed here. Being positive doesn’t stop it from being racist! Fetishisation of a race is and has been a huge problem for hundreds of years. And actually leads to many racial and sexual assaults Also ….” I’m sick and tired of white people standing up for racism “ is the best quote I’ve ever seen. Congratulations!!! You just Won the internet. Also not that it matters, but I’m actually mixed race. And having most of my family and friends as people of Colour. Trust me when I say it’s offensive to hear some Middle Ages white guy say “I wanna see my wife fucked by a black man!!! “ Also yes having a fetish for someone who is trans is still wrong and highly offensive to the LGBTQ community. Prove me wrong I fucking dare you !!!! You've muss quoted me darling. Try and get it right if you're going to directly quote someone It’s called paragraphing “darling” I don’t actually think it was you I was quoting either " Lol Think you mean paraphrasing? But OK hun. | |||
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"Whilst there is a good deal of patronising and aggression in here. I personally feel its important to keep having the conversation. Surely it's evident that there is a lack of education or understanding around this. For those who use a tagline of BBC to attract conquests. Perhaps ask themselves the question why.? For those who use the tagline.. BBC only or sbowbunny etc... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And for those who use the tagline no blacks or whites only... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And "it's just a preference" is not a reason . Why is it a preference? Does it taste better? Look better? Sound better? " I agree so hard with that last paragraph. It's honestly such a cop-out when people say that and expect it to just be accepted. | |||
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"Whilst there is a good deal of patronising and aggression in here. I personally feel its important to keep having the conversation. Surely it's evident that there is a lack of education or understanding around this. For those who use a tagline of BBC to attract conquests. Perhaps ask themselves the question why.? For those who use the tagline.. BBC only or sbowbunny etc... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And for those who use the tagline no blacks or whites only... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And "it's just a preference" is not a reason . Why is it a preference? Does it taste better? Look better? Sound better? " Wouldn't you agree that there's a civilised way to have the conversation? This seems like the op likes to provoke and some like to provoke back. (hoping this ends as I'm famous for being a thread killer lol) | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists?" No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies. | |||
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"Whilst there is a good deal of patronising and aggression in here. I personally feel its important to keep having the conversation. Surely it's evident that there is a lack of education or understanding around this. For those who use a tagline of BBC to attract conquests. Perhaps ask themselves the question why.? For those who use the tagline.. BBC only or sbowbunny etc... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And for those who use the tagline no blacks or whites only... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And "it's just a preference" is not a reason . Why is it a preference? Does it taste better? Look better? Sound better? " Do people have to have reasons for preferences? Some like them tall, some like them short. I know of a woman who had this weird attraction to thick moustaches. All men she liked had a moustache like that and she also married one with a thick moustache. In the end, one's sexual preferences are none of others'business. | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies." You don't have to. Other people choose to. | |||
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"Whilst there is a good deal of patronising and aggression in here. I personally feel its important to keep having the conversation. Surely it's evident that there is a lack of education or understanding around this. For those who use a tagline of BBC to attract conquests. Perhaps ask themselves the question why.? For those who use the tagline.. BBC only or sbowbunny etc... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And for those who use the tagline no blacks or whites only... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And "it's just a preference" is not a reason . Why is it a preference? Does it taste better? Look better? Sound better? " My preference for white skin is that it bruises better. My kink background is bdsm and I've had several extremely pale subs that look so pretty with rainbow bruises. There is something about ginger hair that I find so beautiful. There are a few other reasons that are a bit wierd to go into but that's is my preference. | |||
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"Yawn I’m bored now. Who wants cake " Yes please. My preference is for Victoria Sponge if you have any. | |||
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"OP finds it offensive when people will only meet what he isn’t I wonder if he’s equally offended at the accounts saying “white people only” Yeah I was waiting for some turd to throw that one my way. Yes saying I only meet white people is equally as racist. Literally write off half the population of the world due to pigments in their skin is 1960s shit . Btw No one will change my mind on this. It’s by definition Racist and a bunch of thirsty white people ain’t ever going to convince me other wise. " What does "a bunch of thirsty white people mean"? | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies. You don't have to. Other people choose to. " And what those people do is wrong, hypocritical and illogical. | |||
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"I love how people say liking darker skin isn’t racist but they blatantly know that they are only talking about one race of dark skin. I bet no one that puts BBC only is talking about an Indian guy with a big dick hahah " Whats the solution? | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " Does having a preference for women and no men, make you homophobic? | |||
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"I love how people say liking darker skin isn’t racist but they blatantly know that they are only talking about one race of dark skin. I bet no one that puts BBC only is talking about an Indian guy with a big dick hahah " I think you need to get out more, maybe not in this heat though | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies. You don't have to. Other people choose to. And what those people do is wrong, hypocritical and illogical." Your opinion. Others including Joan are entitled to theirs. | |||
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"I love how people say liking darker skin isn’t racist but they blatantly know that they are only talking about one race of dark skin. I bet no one that puts BBC only is talking about an Indian guy with a big dick hahah " You seem to be a mind reader. That's some talent. | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. Black guys call each other by the N word and aren't offended. Are you suggesting this makes the word OK for everyone to use? I'm not taking a side here, I personally think the debate is far more nuanced than most people on either side allow but I thought it important to point out the flaw in this line of reasoning. Mr No, because of I called them that they would be offended. You are making my point for me, if Black guys aren't offended by the situation you described, I have no right to complain and be offended on their behalf. But if anyone is offended by something people should chance their attitude and actions accordingly To dumb it down I dont like being called Jimmy, so I ask people never to call me that, other people dont mind veing called Jimmy, I cant then decide that no one should call him Jimmy because I dont like it. But you are making the assumption that because some black men are ok with it they all should be. Mr" Nope I didn't say that, "To dumb it down I dont like being called Jimmy, so I ask people never to call me that, other people dont mind veing called Jimmy, I cant then decide that no one should call him Jimmy because I dont like it." This cleary explains that it is a case by case basis. Because one person has a dislike for sonething doesnt mean all people should have to adhere to that. The exact opposite of what you are claiming I am saying. | |||
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". What about the black people who say they're ok with it and use BBC as their USP on a swinging site? .......................... Fine by me, but they don't speak for all black men, yet the fetish term "BBC" has become the accepted description for ALL black men, which is clearly ridiculous!" I somehow don't think anyone has ever applied the term BBC to all black men. That would definitely be ridiculous given that not all of them will have above average sized cocks, which the term specifically relates to. It can't possibly apply to those that don't fit the term and it's never been an 'accepted' term to describe any black guy on here. A | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies. You don't have to. Other people choose to. And what those people do is wrong, hypocritical and illogical. Your opinion. Others including Joan are entitled to theirs. " What kind of argument is this? If that's the case, fascists are also entitled to their opinions. But you would point that it's wrong right? If you think real world morals apply to sexual preferences, male domination kink should be considered misogyny. Spanking should be outlawed because it's both immoral and illegal in real life. There are logical inconsistencies in your moral view if one kind of kink is fine while the other isn't. It's not just my opinion. Anyone who looks at it rationally can see that it's inconsistent. | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies. You don't have to. Other people choose to. And what those people do is wrong, hypocritical and illogical. Your opinion. Others including Joan are entitled to theirs. What kind of argument is this? If that's the case, fascists are also entitled to their opinions. But you would point that it's wrong right? If you think real world morals apply to sexual preferences, male domination kink should be considered misogyny. Spanking should be outlawed because it's both immoral and illegal in real life. There are logical inconsistencies in your moral view if one kind of kink is fine while the other isn't. It's not just my opinion. Anyone who looks at it rationally can see that it's inconsistent." If your idea of a discussion is to browbeat other people, I've no interest in discussing anything with you. You're just bullying. | |||
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"It's just preference not racist This ." Unless that preference is a race surly ? With that logic the nazis where racist, they just had a preference | |||
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"Yawn I’m bored now. Who wants cake Yes please. My preference is for Victoria Sponge if you have any." I have a fruit scone that identifies as a Victoria sponge cake. If you refuse to eat it, you must be either sconephobic or cakesist. | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies. You don't have to. Other people choose to. And what those people do is wrong, hypocritical and illogical. Your opinion. Others including Joan are entitled to theirs. What kind of argument is this? If that's the case, fascists are also entitled to their opinions. But you would point that it's wrong right? If you think real world morals apply to sexual preferences, male domination kink should be considered misogyny. Spanking should be outlawed because it's both immoral and illegal in real life. There are logical inconsistencies in your moral view if one kind of kink is fine while the other isn't. It's not just my opinion. Anyone who looks at it rationally can see that it's inconsistent. If your idea of a discussion is to browbeat other people, I've no interest in discussing anything with you. You're just bullying. " Lol. I pointed out an inconsistency in your moral view. If there is something wrong with what I pointed out, you are free to point it out. Saying that "it's just your opinion" is a just chickening out of the debate. There is no point in debating if everyone just says that it's just your opinion. The whole point of a debate is to understand the difference in opinions. | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies. You don't have to. Other people choose to. And what those people do is wrong, hypocritical and illogical. Your opinion. Others including Joan are entitled to theirs. What kind of argument is this? If that's the case, fascists are also entitled to their opinions. But you would point that it's wrong right? If you think real world morals apply to sexual preferences, male domination kink should be considered misogyny. Spanking should be outlawed because it's both immoral and illegal in real life. There are logical inconsistencies in your moral view if one kind of kink is fine while the other isn't. It's not just my opinion. Anyone who looks at it rationally can see that it's inconsistent. If your idea of a discussion is to browbeat other people, I've no interest in discussing anything with you. You're just bullying. Lol. I pointed out an inconsistency in your moral view. If there is something wrong with what I pointed out, you are free to point it out. Saying that "it's just your opinion" is a just chickening out of the debate. There is no point in debating if everyone just says that it's just your opinion. The whole point of a debate is to understand the difference in opinions." Whatever. I have no interest in "debate" with aggressive posters. | |||
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"Whilst there is a good deal of patronising and aggression in here. I personally feel its important to keep having the conversation. Surely it's evident that there is a lack of education or understanding around this. For those who use a tagline of BBC to attract conquests. Perhaps ask themselves the question why.? For those who use the tagline.. BBC only or sbowbunny etc... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And for those who use the tagline no blacks or whites only... Perhaps ask themselves the question why? And "it's just a preference" is not a reason . Why is it a preference? Does it taste better? Look better? Sound better? Do people have to have reasons for preferences? Some like them tall, some like them short. I know of a woman who had this weird attraction to thick moustaches. All men she liked had a moustache like that and she also married one with a thick moustache. In the end, one's sexual preferences are none of others'business." She should have a serious chat with herself about *why* she is attracted to big moustaches and start fucking thinner moustaches and clean shaven men *and women*. She's a raving moustachist homophobe! | |||
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"It's just preference not racist This . Unless that preference is a race surly ? With that logic the nazis where racist, they just had a preference " I'm pretty sure that analogy doesn't stand up to scrutiny | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. .............................. Theres an irony, you're a white male who's offended on behalf of black men who embrace racial stereotypes. The thing is no one has to be offended. If we start applying real world moral judgements into people's sexuality and fetishes, the whole of kink scene wouldn't exist. A male dominant looking for female submissive would be branded as a misogynist because he is stereotyping women as being submissive. This is an individual's sexuality. What they do is none of other people's business. If others want to judge based someone based on sexual preferences, they are no different than conservatives. They are using different reasons to do the same thing. ................................ Frankly I've no problem applying real world moral judgements to this world (or at least being aware of the wider context), it's not as if we're at the zenith of social development in the real world, this one is merely a microcosm of that. So you are saying that people indulging in male dom kinks are misogynists? .................................. Not necessarily. Are you saying that all male doms aren't misogynists? No. Some are some aren't. Same with people looking for specific races. Some are, some aren't. My point is a sexual preference doesn't imply anything about real life. That's why you shouldn't be applying real world morals to sexual fantasies." ................................ Equally I don't think it's for you to tell others what they should or shouldn't be applying their personal view of the world to. | |||
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"It's just preference not racist This . Unless that preference is a race surly ? With that logic the nazis where racist, they just had a preference I'm pretty sure that analogy doesn't stand up to scrutiny " Yeah I'm wondering where his logic is in comparing the 2 | |||
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"I saw the word popcorn and now I want to know the flavour Salted obvs. Or maybe mixed if I’m feeling dangerous " One word - shocking | |||
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"It's just preference not racist This . Unless that preference is a race surly ? With that logic the nazis where racist, they just had a preference I'm pretty sure that analogy doesn't stand up to scrutiny Yeah I'm wondering where his logic is in comparing the 2 " I think by the rules of the internet, they just lost the argument. | |||
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"What about other races to im always seeing no Asians?? So not just only BBC " ............................... Inadvertently you've perhaps attributed "BBC" as being of its own particular species | |||
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" And don't get me started on gingers!!!! What about us Gingers??" Damn, it's like staring into the sun. The brighter and more vivid the better. | |||
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"Yawn I’m bored now. Who wants cake Yes please. My preference is for Victoria Sponge if you have any. I have a fruit scone that identifies as a Victoria sponge cake. If you refuse to eat it, you must be either sconephobic or cakesist. " I'm very partial to fruit scone. Strawberry jam and cream too? | |||
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"Honestly I don't think I'm going to comment on this one (talked about race way too much on this forum already) I will just add this. As a black man navigating a site like this it does help to know which women/couples are into black guys as it makes it easier for us to message someone and not think we're just going to be ignored. Same way I like to know the women who aren't into black guys so again, I can know who to message and who I shouldn't message. I don't take it as an insult or the person being racist (whether they like black guys or not) because everyone has a preference and as human being we ought to respect that preference." I can understand that. I added something to my profile after several black/Asian men messaged me starting with an apology in case I didn't like their ethnicity. That's so fucking wrong. | |||
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"It's just preference not racist This . Unless that preference is a race surly ? With that logic the nazis where racist, they just had a preference I'm pretty sure that analogy doesn't stand up to scrutiny Yeah I'm wondering where his logic is in comparing the 2 " Maybe not in detail no. But in principle, there isn’t much difference. I feel this thread has gone a bit skew nether the less, I’ll hold my hands up in playing part. I was really interested in what thoughts where on using the term BBC as a preference. Facts being, it not only objectifies men but most certainly men of one particular race. I personally think the over justification and how defend people have become in the thread is a very good social indicator on there being topic that has never truly “objectively” been explored. It’s well raised topic and one of my local groups in London has been exploring it due to a recent article about the term being used in grinder and there now being a bit of a stand within the gay community to stop white guys using it. Thanks for all your in put , it’s been an interesting debate, (if you can call it that ) No offences taken or given . I’m not a total arse hat, just a bit of one . | |||
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"It's just preference not racist This ." ................................ Do you think racists are likely to express a 'preference' (as they're fully entitled to do), or not? | |||
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"I'm white and have have a fetish for very white skin. The whiter the better. I like freckles too. I'm also into black albinos but there are not many around. And don't get me started on gingers!!!! " Unrelated but those are the most literal interpretation of the words "fuck me shoes" I've ever seen. | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves Having a preference for dark skin or light skin isn't racist, no more than preferring blondes or brunettes is. I personally have no preference for skin colours or hair colours, although I do have a preference for nice tits. I too am not a fan of the fetishization of race and I also find terms like "BBC" and "Queen of Spades" to be derogatory and racist. On the other hand though, there are many guys that use these things as a selling point. The only way that those terms will disappear is if those they're aimed at refuse to acknowledge them. Cal" As a man of colour I agree with you, Cal. And change will be a very slow process | |||
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"As a white guy witha very average cock I'm used to being ignored on here." Don't worry, someone will have a preference for someone like you. | |||
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"Honestly I don't think I'm going to comment on this one (talked about race way too much on this forum already) I will just add this. As a black man navigating a site like this it does help to know which women/couples are into black guys as it makes it easier for us to message someone and not think we're just going to be ignored. Same way I like to know the women who aren't into black guys so again, I can know who to message and who I shouldn't message. I don't take it as an insult or the person being racist (whether they like black guys or not) because everyone has a preference and as human being we ought to respect that preference. I can understand that. I added something to my profile after several black/Asian men messaged me starting with an apology in case I didn't like their ethnicity. That's so fucking wrong. " I’ve had that. Not sure if you’re into guys like me. I hate it! Having said that I wouldn’t call someone racist for having preferences. However seeing something like “no blacks/Asians/white people only” on a profile would put me off that person. I just personally don’t like to see it and don’t see a need for it. | |||
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"Am I the only one that has an issue with how people of colour are seen as a fetish on this site. “My preference is BBC” “BBC only” etc It really doesn’t sit well with me at all. Having a preferred colour of skin is racist no matter what direction you are aiming it in, just saying! No I’ll sit back with my popcorn watching the racists try and justify themselves " | |||
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"It's just preference not racist This . Unless that preference is a race surly ? With that logic the nazis where racist, they just had a preference I'm pretty sure that analogy doesn't stand up to scrutiny Yeah I'm wondering where his logic is in comparing the 2 Maybe not in detail no. But in principle, there isn’t much difference. I feel this thread has gone a bit skew nether the less, I’ll hold my hands up in playing part. I was really interested in what thoughts where on using the term BBC as a preference. Facts being, it not only objectifies men but most certainly men of one particular race. I personally think the over justification and how defend people have become in the thread is a very good social indicator on there being topic that has never truly “objectively” been explored. It’s well raised topic and one of my local groups in London has been exploring it due to a recent article about the term being used in grinder and there now being a bit of a stand within the gay community to stop white guys using it. Thanks for all your in put , it’s been an interesting debate, (if you can call it that ) No offences taken or given . I’m not a total arse hat, just a bit of one . " I like this saying, there is only one race, the human race | |||
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"It's just preference not racist This . Unless that preference is a race surly ? With that logic the nazis where racist, they just had a preference I'm pretty sure that analogy doesn't stand up to scrutiny Yeah I'm wondering where his logic is in comparing the 2 Maybe not in detail no. But in principle, there isn’t much difference. I feel this thread has gone a bit skew nether the less, I’ll hold my hands up in playing part. I was really interested in what thoughts where on using the term BBC as a preference. Facts being, it not only objectifies men but most certainly men of one particular race. I personally think the over justification and how defend people have become in the thread is a very good social indicator on there being topic that has never truly “objectively” been explored. It’s well raised topic and one of my local groups in London has been exploring it due to a recent article about the term being used in grinder and there now being a bit of a stand within the gay community to stop white guys using it. Thanks for all your in put , it’s been an interesting debate, (if you can call it that ) No offences taken or given . I’m not a total arse hat, just a bit of one . I like this saying, there is only one race, the human race " ............................... Indeed there is, however mankind has made a pretty good fist of perverting that noble sentiment, hence the development of discussions like this one. | |||
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"Surprised this is a topic on such a free thinking forum to be honest, let people enjoy themselves how they see fit. As long as not harming anyone else leaving people to it. So many things under the sun to really be angry at and you choose what a small demographic chooses to label themselves as or what someone who likes that demographic labels them" ................................. If it really was such a free thinking forum (another swinging myth), you'd equally embrace opinions which are contrary to your own. | |||
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"If black guys aren't offended by it, then people can't really be offended on their behalf, just looks like a bit of jealousy. Black guys call each other by the N word and aren't offended. Are you suggesting this makes the word OK for everyone to use? I'm not taking a side here, I personally think the debate is far more nuanced than most people on either side allow but I thought it important to point out the flaw in this line of reasoning. Mr No, because of I called them that they would be offended. You are making my point for me, if Black guys aren't offended by the situation you described, I have no right to complain and be offended on their behalf. But if anyone is offended by something people should chance their attitude and actions accordingly To dumb it down I dont like being called Jimmy, so I ask people never to call me that, other people dont mind veing called Jimmy, I cant then decide that no one should call him Jimmy because I dont like it." Black people aren't a hive mind, they have different opinions and as you can see just in this thread, some black men are offended by it and others aren't. | |||
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