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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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To avoid ertain extinction in 4 billion years when the sun burns out, we'd have to be able to exceed the speed of light by several thousand fold to reach what might be the nearest inhabitable planets. Ruling that out, is the only other possibility of reaching them using manageable wormholes in spacetime?
Is not being able to see dark matter because as the matrix which binds the universe together, it is curved and from wherever you view it, you are standing at the horizon? if we stepped "through" the doorway between the physical universe and "into" dark matter, could we be everywhere simultaneously or at least cross between two points at any distance apart instantly? Is the illusive dark matter actually going to turn out to be a "superhighway" through space time?
The ability to create a doorway, stepping between two points any distance apart in the universe would be a bit of a game changer for travel.
Hey Mr.Musk....hold my beer!
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Considering the exponential rise in flat earthers mate you’ve got your work cut out just getting people to believe they won’t fall off the edge if the current train they’re on keeps going in a straight line. |
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You build a gravity drive that folds space... the two points in space millions of lightyears apart will be together for a moment allowing a ship to pass through.
I think I saw this in a film once, it worked out brilliantly for everyone involved |
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The difficulty with theoretical physics is its theoretical.
Science fact is a long way from science fiction.
I think we are a long way from creating faster than light speed, probably mainly due to a practical power source to power a propulsion system.
Wormholes/ folding space and so on once again a power source and the ability to generate a stable, containable wormhole is perhaps something based in science fiction and theory.
Funding is going to be the biggest issue so unless they find a distinct planet rich in mineral wealth then I can't see funds being available.
Obviously the other issue is then any planet observed will be many millions of years older by the time we view them, then travel there.
I think humanity would have destroyed itself before then anyway.
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"To avoid ertain extinction in 4 billion years when the sun burns out, we'd have to be able to exceed the speed of light by several thousand fold to reach what might be the nearest inhabitable planets. Ruling that out, is the only other possibility of reaching them using manageable wormholes in spacetime?
Is not being able to see dark matter because as the matrix which binds the universe together, it is curved and from wherever you view it, you are standing at the horizon? if we stepped "through" the doorway between the physical universe and "into" dark matter, could we be everywhere simultaneously or at least cross between two points at any distance apart instantly? Is the illusive dark matter actually going to turn out to be a "superhighway" through space time?
The ability to create a doorway, stepping between two points any distance apart in the universe would be a bit of a game changer for travel.
Hey Mr.Musk....hold my beer!
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Hibernation, watch a few space documentaries on it, there is one with Chris pratt and Jennifer Lawrence in it except his capsule broke and released him early and then he broke hers cause he was horny. |
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
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Wormholes are very theoretical and I for one don’t want to descend into a black hole to find the other end.
Interesting according to theory the world inside a black hole is actual reality and not outside of one… |
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One billion is a fecking long time, let alone four times that. And in the highly unlikely scenario that humanity is still around in that time, I'd imagine people much smarter than I would have figured something out by then 
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"The easier fix would be to properly integrate with machines. Then have an AI controlled space craft that maintains itself. We power off until we get where we need to go "
Do you think other life forms have done that and will eventually reach Earth? |
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"I love the idea that travelling between two points instantaneously would render all other forms of transport useless."
I think in an episode of Star Trek TNG a race of aliens informs the Federation that the warp drive they use is slowly breaking down the natural fabric of reality and destroying the universe.
You can almost guarantee that's what would happen if we ever invent warp technology... |
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E=MC2
So we’d need an ever growing energy source to propel an ever increasing mass beyond light speed, it’s not possible to do so until science finds another means if that exists
Hot topic for a swinging site too… |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OK, so starter for 10.
Which do you think is more likely, "teleporting" or time travel?
Or do you think that they go hand in hand? "
Neither are possible with our model or understanding of the laws of physics. |
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"To avoid ertain extinction in 4 billion years when the sun burns out, we'd have to be able to exceed the speed of light by several thousand fold to reach what might be the nearest inhabitable planets. Ruling that out, is the only other possibility of reaching them using manageable wormholes in spacetime?
Is not being able to see dark matter because as the matrix which binds the universe together, it is curved and from wherever you view it, you are standing at the horizon? if we stepped "through" the doorway between the physical universe and "into" dark matter, could we be everywhere simultaneously or at least cross between two points at any distance apart instantly? Is the illusive dark matter actually going to turn out to be a "superhighway" through space time?
The ability to create a doorway, stepping between two points any distance apart in the universe would be a bit of a game changer for travel.
Hey Mr.Musk....hold my beer!
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Just because someone says the sun will 'burn out' in 4 billion years, does that mean it's true? Where's the proof? We can't even predict the weather correctly for the next 2 weeks, yet alone the lifespan of the sun!
Let's face it, if the sun burned out in 3,999,999,999 years, 51 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes and 59 seconds, would anyone here be disappointed and start demanding an inquiry?
Worry about today if you want to worry. Mankind I feel will be long gone in 4 billion years... Starved to death, worked to death and vaccinated to death by Conservatives! |
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"OK, so starter for 10.
Which do you think is more likely, "teleporting" or time travel?
Or do you think that they go hand in hand?
Neither are possible with our model or understanding of the laws of physics. "
I think I heard once that some scientists have been able transport/teleport things at a molecular level, like small clusters of particles can be broken down transported then rebuilt. |
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"OK, so starter for 10.
Which do you think is more likely, "teleporting" or time travel?
Or do you think that they go hand in hand?
Neither are possible with our model or understanding of the laws of physics.
I think I heard once that some scientists have been able transport/teleport things at a molecular level, like small clusters of particles can be broken down transported then rebuilt. "
At 4x c’ wouldn’t the gravitational forces be so great that nothing would be able to withstand them and be turned into… god knows what? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"OK, so starter for 10.
Which do you think is more likely, "teleporting" or time travel?
Or do you think that they go hand in hand?
Neither are possible with our model or understanding of the laws of physics.
I think I heard once that some scientists have been able transport/teleport things at a molecular level, like small clusters of particles can be broken down transported then rebuilt. "
If you were jumping through a point where space were folded why would you have to break the object down? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To avoid ertain extinction in 4 billion years when the sun burns out, we'd have to be able to exceed the speed of light by several thousand fold to reach what might be the nearest inhabitable planets. Ruling that out, is the only other possibility of reaching them using manageable wormholes in spacetime?
Is not being able to see dark matter because as the matrix which binds the universe together, it is curved and from wherever you view it, you are standing at the horizon? if we stepped "through" the doorway between the physical universe and "into" dark matter, could we be everywhere simultaneously or at least cross between two points at any distance apart instantly? Is the illusive dark matter actually going to turn out to be a "superhighway" through space time?
The ability to create a doorway, stepping between two points any distance apart in the universe would be a bit of a game changer for travel.
Hey Mr.Musk....hold my beer!
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We can’t and won’t go extinct. We’re part of the universe, just in human form. Humans might go but whatever we’re made from will be here forever in some form or another |
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"The easier fix would be to properly integrate with machines. Then have an AI controlled space craft that maintains itself. We power off until we get where we need to go
Do you think other life forms have done that and will eventually reach Earth?"
Potentially, the problem really is how big space is
For example, let’s say we had a telescope powerful enough to see 4 billion light years away and we see a planet with life on it.
Firstly, we are looking at light that’s 4 billion years old. We are basically looking at the past. That civilisation might be long gone.
But ignoring that, even if we powered ourselves down and set off at half the speed of light, that’s 8 billion years to reach them.
The universe is so big we have to accept that we won’t find life and travel to it by this method. It’s just too big.
The only way this method works is AI robots making Millions of ships with consciousness stored on them and just blasting them off in different directions.
And even then, a fuel source is needed for the trip.
It’s complicated. Basically, unless we figure out how to bend space/time to travel faster than the speed of light via wormholes or something, it just won’t happen |
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By (user no longer on site)
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In my own lifetime, I have seen the disappearance of rainforests to be replaced by slash and burn palm plantations for the production of palm oil in our processed food; cities grow out of sand dunes, metropolis built on reclaimed land from the sea destroying reefs and the ecosystems of marine life that depended on it. That's just some of what I've seen myself in my half a century of life.
If we don't look after our physical space and how we live in it, I'm not sure we'll have enough time to work out how to escape to somewhere else hospitable. |
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And here you all are.. Totally ignoring the fact that 'time' is a man made construct. Time exists only in the mind of those that has been told it does.. Similarly to those that think there's a God. Similarly that the number 8 follows the number 7..you've been taught that, but that doesn't make it real.
These constructs are designed and created to simply make an existence have some sort of purpose. That's of course assuming you exist in the 'reality' you think you do.
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"OK, so starter for 10.
Which do you think is more likely, "teleporting" or time travel?
Or do you think that they go hand in hand?
Neither are possible with our model or understanding of the laws of physics.
I think I heard once that some scientists have been able transport/teleport things at a molecular level, like small clusters of particles can be broken down transported then rebuilt.
If you were jumping through a point where space were folded why would you have to break the object down?"
Well if you are folding space then nothing has to be broken down, and you can just travel through. Like when the Enterprise warps.
But if you're moving things in space (like the transporters in Star Trek) then whatever object gets moved is broken down and rebuilt |
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"And here you all are.. Totally ignoring the fact that 'time' is a man made construct. Time exists only in the mind of those that has been told it does.. Similarly to those that think there's a God. Similarly that the number 8 follows the number 7..you've been taught that, but that doesn't make it real.
These constructs are designed and created to simply make an existence have some sort of purpose. That's of course assuming you exist in the 'reality' you think you do.
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Getting a bit matrixy now aren't we..lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And here you all are.. Totally ignoring the fact that 'time' is a man made construct. Time exists only in the mind of those that has been told it does.. Similarly to those that think there's a God. Similarly that the number 8 follows the number 7..you've been taught that, but that doesn't make it real.
These constructs are designed and created to simply make an existence have some sort of purpose. That's of course assuming you exist in the 'reality' you think you do.
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Come on now. You can’t leave it at that. I implore you to impart your wisdom upon us. The unwashed small folk of fab. |
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By *ack688Man
over a year ago
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I think it’s amazingly optimistic that you imagine mankind won’t have died out long before the next 4 billion years have passed!
But that aside, sci fi very rarely takes into account the time distortion that occurs as velocity increases, to the point whereby time effectively stops for anyone travelling at light speed, so although to an observer it may seem as though thousands of years might be passing for a vessel travelling at light speed, for those experiencing it, it would be as though hardly any time has passed depending on how close to light speed you could get. |
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"Im just going to wvolve into a 4th dimensional being and all my problems will be solved "
Just 'identify' as one.. That seemingly changes genders and all known laws of biology and physics. You can then do anything you want. Take any disagreement as 'offence' and its a win win.  |
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"I think we should stop wasting money on fantasies and use it to help people live better lives before we become extinct."
Teleportation is not a fantasy. It's already been proven (albeit on a small scale). |
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"OK, so starter for 10.
Which do you think is more likely, "teleporting" or time travel?
Or do you think that they go hand in hand?
Neither are possible with our model or understanding of the laws of physics. "
Teleportation is already proven. Google it.
And it depends what you mean by time travel: every time you look into the sky and see the sun you are looking at something that existed 8 minutes ago, and when you look into the night sky you are seeing signals from centuries or millenia ago. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You build a gravity drive that folds space... the two points in space millions of lightyears apart will be together for a moment allowing a ship to pass through.
I think I saw this in a film once, it worked out brilliantly for everyone involved "
Love that film! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OK, so starter for 10.
Which do you think is more likely, "teleporting" or time travel?
Or do you think that they go hand in hand?
Neither are possible with our model or understanding of the laws of physics.
Teleportation is already proven. Google it.
And it depends what you mean by time travel: every time you look into the sky and see the sun you are looking at something that existed 8 minutes ago, and when you look into the night sky you are seeing signals from centuries or millenia ago."
I don’t need to google anything.
It’s hypothetical ie disproven.
Photons travelling through space? Does that makes us all time travellers? I’m going back to the era of Bacchanalia in Ancient Rome. |
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The thing that worries me about travelling faster than the speed of light is how do you see where you're going as you're going faster than the light of your destination can reach you. Also how can you see if there are any obstacles in your way?
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!
Does anybody know Prof Brian Cox
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"The thing that worries me about travelling faster than the speed of light is how do you see where you're going as you're going faster than the light of your destination can reach you. Also how can you see if there are any obstacles in your way?
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!
Does anybody know Prof Brian Cox
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I've met him. He works just up the road from us. |
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"The thing that worries me about travelling faster than the speed of light is how do you see where you're going as you're going faster than the light of your destination can reach you. Also how can you see if there are any obstacles in your way?
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!
Does anybody know Prof Brian Cox
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As Han solo said "you could fly right into and asteroid field"
Never go warp factor 10 into a black hole without some prep work first. |
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"To avoid ertain extinction in 4 billion years when the sun burns out, we'd have to be able to exceed the speed of light by several thousand fold to reach what might be the nearest inhabitable planets. Ruling that out, is the only other possibility of reaching them using manageable wormholes in spacetime?
Is not being able to see dark matter because as the matrix which binds the universe together, it is curved and from wherever you view it, you are standing at the horizon? if we stepped "through" the doorway between the physical universe and "into" dark matter, could we be everywhere simultaneously or at least cross between two points at any distance apart instantly? Is the illusive dark matter actually going to turn out to be a "superhighway" through space time?
The ability to create a doorway, stepping between two points any distance apart in the universe would be a bit of a game changer for travel.
Hey Mr.Musk....hold my beer!
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Sounds more plausible than getting a plane on time atm so .... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I recall recent experiments proving the same particle existed in two different places simultaneously.
I've seen Brian Cox live and watched plenty of his TV series but one of my favourite is the one where he said. "If you don't understand what it is I'm talking about, don't worry because I don't understand it either and neither does anyone else!" Lmao.
In reality, anything you can't disprove is something that's possible. The universe is a miraculous place where almost anything could be possible.
Opening a portal that allows you to step out of London and into New York. I can't prove it's possible but you can't prove it isn't, that's what's exciting.
Is it too late to become an astro physicist? Lol |
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"You build a gravity drive that folds space... the two points in space millions of lightyears apart will be together for a moment allowing a ship to pass through.
I think I saw this in a film once, it worked out brilliantly for everyone involved "
You just described Warp Drive. |
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"The thing that worries me about travelling faster than the speed of light is how do you see where you're going as you're going faster than the light of your destination can reach you. Also how can you see if there are any obstacles in your way?
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!
Does anybody know Prof Brian Cox
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The Prof has one of my products.. a good customer.. lol |
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