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"On TV tonight are allegations that SAS night squads were bumping off captured people in Afghan to bag a bigger body count than the unit they relieved. Not sure this is responsible reporting. What's going on here.... " The reporting sounds ok. It's the alleged behaviour of the SAS that might not be considered responsible. | |||
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"They are still trying to prosecute soldiers over the troubles in northern Ireland but let off the IRA " I think you'll find they let off soldiers who killed civilians too | |||
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"This needs reporting. It is a war crime." Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.. | |||
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"Such is equality you’ll soon have women in the SAS. Maybe the unit will become less macho?" Hahaha   | |||
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"This needs reporting. It is a war crime. Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.." If you join the army unfortunately being shot at comes with the job. Don't want to be shot at in a warzone dont join the military. Executing prisoners is indefensible. The same people defending the SAS will be fuming if the Russians exec the 2 British guys captured in Ukraine. What is and isn't a war crime cannot be influenced by which side we support. | |||
"Such is equality you’ll soon have women in the SAS. Maybe the unit will become less macho?" Been females in SAS for years, before they was Rupert's and green slime or scalies but now can do selection and actually wear the right badge instead of just the beret with original unit one. | |||
"This needs reporting. It is a war crime. Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.. If you join the army unfortunately being shot at comes with the job. Don't want to be shot at in a warzone dont join the military. Executing prisoners is indefensible. The same people defending the SAS will be fuming if the Russians exec the 2 British guys captured in Ukraine. What is and isn't a war crime cannot be influenced by which side we support." If you join the army unfortunately being shot at comes with the job. Don't want to be shot at in a warzone dont join the military. You should be a doctor mate an tell all the ex solders are riddled with p.t.s.d that..haha.. you’ll fix p.t.s.d forever. Why didn’t i think of that..hahahaha.. | |||
"Killing 54 unarmed men is wrong. Arrrrrr but then i think of the twin towers they blew up killing 3000 people, oh an the cutting peoples heads off in the street, oh an all the road side bombs blowing up troops an anyone else who triggered them off aaaaan the not wearing of uniform so we didn’t even know who we were fighting..hahaha.. The SAS are monsters…hahaha.. fuck off they’re fucking hero’s. Honestly the uk what a load of shit, now let me win the lotto so i can get the fuck out of here..hahaha.. " Not one of the hijackers nor bin Laden was born in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia is where the majority came from.. | |||
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"Does anyone know what really happened or the context before rushing to any entitled and possible prejudiced judgement? " (Claps) | |||
"Does anyone know what really happened or the context before rushing to any entitled and possible prejudiced judgement? " It's a follow up to a panorama report in 2019, the RMP who were investigating it at that time as it met the threshold etc were basically hindered in their investigation by senior SF and MOD officers and it was closed down .. | |||
"Killing 54 unarmed men is wrong. Arrrrrr but then i think of the twin towers they blew up killing 3000 people, oh an the cutting peoples heads off in the street, oh an all the road side bombs blowing up troops an anyone else who triggered them off aaaaan the not wearing of uniform so we didn’t even know who we were fighting..hahaha.. The SAS are monsters…hahaha.. fuck off they’re fucking hero’s. Honestly the uk what a load of shit, now let me win the lotto so i can get the fuck out of here..hahaha.. Not one of the hijackers nor bin Laden was born in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia is where the majority came from.. " Is that the same Saudi Arabia that now own Newcastle United, LIV golf, put on the biggest boxing purses? The F1 etc Oh what a fickle lot we are. | |||
"Killing 54 unarmed men is wrong. Arrrrrr but then i think of the twin towers they blew up killing 3000 people, oh an the cutting peoples heads off in the street, oh an all the road side bombs blowing up troops an anyone else who triggered them off aaaaan the not wearing of uniform so we didn’t even know who we were fighting..hahaha.. The SAS are monsters…hahaha.. fuck off they’re fucking hero’s. Honestly the uk what a load of shit, now let me win the lotto so i can get the fuck out of here..hahaha.. Not one of the hijackers nor bin Laden was born in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia is where the majority came from.. Is that the same Saudi Arabia that now own Newcastle United, LIV golf, put on the biggest boxing purses? The F1 etc Oh what a fickle lot we are. " Indeed, and to whom we sell billions in arms but how they're used is nothing to do with us even if we are fully aware.. | |||
"Killing 54 unarmed men is wrong. Arrrrrr but then i think of the twin towers they blew up killing 3000 people, oh an the cutting peoples heads off in the street, oh an all the road side bombs blowing up troops an anyone else who triggered them off aaaaan the not wearing of uniform so we didn’t even know who we were fighting..hahaha.. The SAS are monsters…hahaha.. fuck off they’re fucking hero’s. Honestly the uk what a load of shit, now let me win the lotto so i can get the fuck out of here..hahaha.. Not one of the hijackers nor bin Laden was born in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia is where the majority came from.. " Thats very true, but i served with loads of British troops who wasn’t born in uk. | |||
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"Does anyone know what really happened or the context before rushing to any entitled and possible prejudiced judgement? " We'll probably never know. | |||
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"So are you saying they shouldn't be reporting it...even if it happened?" Or why are they repeating something that was investigated and dropped some time ago, and headlining it in a way that suggests it’s a forgone conclusion? | |||
"This needs reporting. It is a war crime. Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.." I think you're mixing up two ideas. I doubt anyone on this thread would have a single word to say about a soldier returning fire, about killing enemy combatants in a combat situation. This story is about executing prisoners. You point out we will only hear one side and I'm fine with that. Killing an enemy soldier in combat, as a sniper, by firing missiles etc etc, I may not be happy with this but understand that ultimately it's war and people die. Executing prisoners on the other hand there is only one side to hear. Were they prisoners yes or no. Did our soldiers kill them after surrender? Yes or no. There are no sides. This is not to say these soldiers are guilty - I have no idea whether they are or not but I absolutely support an investigation. We can't condemn (for example) Russian war crimes in Ukraine or terrorist attacks while refusing to hold our own soldiers to the same standards we dictate to others. Mr | |||
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"So are you saying they shouldn't be reporting it...even if it happened? Or why are they repeating something that was investigated and dropped some time ago, and headlining it in a way that suggests it’s a forgone conclusion?" Have you read the full BBC report? Unless they're deliberately lying they have a massive amount of evidence to support their claims - including internal emails. It's hard to believe they're lying when so many of the claims would be easy to show as false if in fact they're untrue. It's pretty grim reading. Mr | |||
"Killing 54 unarmed men is wrong. Arrrrrr but then i think of the twin towers they blew up killing 3000 people, oh an the cutting peoples heads off in the street, oh an all the road side bombs blowing up troops an anyone else who triggered them off aaaaan the not wearing of uniform so we didn’t even know who we were fighting..hahaha.. The SAS are monsters…hahaha.. fuck off they’re fucking hero’s. Honestly the uk what a load of shit, now let me win the lotto so i can get the fuck out of here..hahaha.. Not one of the hijackers nor bin Laden was born in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia is where the majority came from.. Thats very true, but i served with loads of British troops who wasn’t born in uk. " So did I, not many to be honest but your missing the point that if Afghanistan was anything to do with 9/11 it was tenuous and whilst bin Laden was in a cave he could have been taken out without boots on the ground in a country which is historically known as the graveyard of other countries armies.. | |||
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"I’d be interested in any posters on here having a more informed opinion of these matters had they served overseas I did three tours of Iraq, three of Afghanistan, the news, topics reported, geo-politics and a multitude of other factors are hardly ever broached The reality to what the public were told and saw are light years apart" That's a fair comment but in this particular case the concerns were originally raised (and then filed away) by people who were very well aware of the situation out there. Mr | |||
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"I’d be interested in any posters on here having a more informed opinion of these matters had they served overseas I did three tours of Iraq, three of Afghanistan, the news, topics reported, geo-politics and a multitude of other factors are hardly ever broached The reality to what the public were told and saw are light years apart" Does that make it acceptable to execute prisoners of war? | |||
"The SAS are supposed to be the best of the best and should act accordingly. " Quite so. | |||
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"I’d be interested in any posters on here having a more informed opinion of these matters had they served overseas I did three tours of Iraq, three of Afghanistan, the news, topics reported, geo-politics and a multitude of other factors are hardly ever broached The reality to what the public were told and saw are light years apart Does that make it acceptable to execute prisoners of war? " That’s my whole point, it’s easy to report things as executing when you’ve never received the intelligence reporting, fought adversaries who will use children as delivery devices for explosives, push prams through a market place packed with Semtex or mimic injury to draw you in then detonate themselves. All to cause mass causalities civilian or otherwise. Life has very little value in some countries. Western rules of engagement, laws of war and values of POW’s never existed in those wars, the campaigns were entirely different so often non-compliance in any respect would result in lawful lethal force being used and often as an immediate escalation. Maybe you had to experience these things to understand them, but death was martyrdom, not a loss, the philosophy of combat was a world away from our western values and there society still is | |||
"As usual the fucking media (normally the anti-Tory BBC) looking for something that probably isn't true to stir up some more shit ! They've finished with Prince Andrew, they've got rid of Boris, the Ukraine thing isn't headline news anymore so some dickhead in the media room says "I know, lets dig up some shit from a few years ago" thay nobody actually gives a damn about ! If the SAS did kill some people I can guarantee thay the world is a better and safer place because of those killings ! Move on !! " I assume this is a pisstake. But sadly, there are people who are so lost down the extreme far right rabbit holes that they actually believe this kind of BS. | |||
"I’d be interested in any posters on here having a more informed opinion of these matters had they served overseas I did three tours of Iraq, three of Afghanistan, the news, topics reported, geo-politics and a multitude of other factors are hardly ever broached The reality to what the public were told and saw are light years apart Does that make it acceptable to execute prisoners of war? That’s my whole point, it’s easy to report things as executing when you’ve never received the intelligence reporting, fought adversaries who will use children as delivery devices for explosives, push prams through a market place packed with Semtex or mimic injury to draw you in then detonate themselves. All to cause mass causalities civilian or otherwise. Life has very little value in some countries. Western rules of engagement, laws of war and values of POW’s never existed in those wars, the campaigns were entirely different so often non-compliance in any respect would result in lawful lethal force being used and often as an immediate escalation. Maybe you had to experience these things to understand them, but death was martyrdom, not a loss, the philosophy of combat was a world away from our western values and there society still is" You've not replied to my response earlier. These concerns were raised by people who did know, were experienced and could empathise. The BBC didn't imvent the concerns, they're reporting on internal emails from within the special forces chain of command. Using the "you don't understand" defense is a bit stupid when (for example) a senior officer actually committed to writing his concern that there was a deliberate policy of unlawful killing. Mr | |||
"I’d be interested in any posters on here having a more informed opinion of these matters had they served overseas .... ... The reality to what the public were told Does that make it acceptable to execute prisoners of war? .... You've not replied to my response earlier. These concerns were raised by people who did know, were experienced and could empathise. The BBC didn't imvent the concerns, they're reporting on internal emails from within the special forces chain of command. Using the "you don't understand" defense is a bit stupid when (for example) a senior officer actually committed to writing his concern that there was a deliberate policy of unlawful killing. Mr" Quite so; I spent a year in Helmand working with an Afghan team 2006-07 having worked in other parts of Afghanistan twice before. My only time in Iraq was almost entirely 'behind the wire' but I previously spent many years in Northern Ireland and before that served in Africa. | |||
"Good Excellent work boys!! Next T" Could you explain your reasoning to why you think that? Not taking the piss, genuinely curious. | |||
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"Can’t believe people still watch the news let alone believe any of it"
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"Please, please, please put a politics / opinions page on here !! Then we can avoid this type of posting. This has nothing to do with the lifestyle whatsoever. Surely there are other sites with forum's for this kind of topic(s). We know, "well don't read it"... It's a SWINGER'S SITE for god's sake. Rant end's (it's hot & we are bothered)." You do realise there is a "Lifestyle" page that has all the swinging lifestyle threads you could wish? This is the lounge and a such open for a whole range of topics. Mr | |||
"I’d be interested in any posters on here having a more informed opinion of these matters had they served overseas I did three tours of Iraq, three of Afghanistan, the news, topics reported, geo-politics and a multitude of other factors are hardly ever broached The reality to what the public were told and saw are light years apart Does that make it acceptable to execute prisoners of war? That’s my whole point, it’s easy to report things as executing when you’ve never received the intelligence reporting, fought adversaries who will use children as delivery devices for explosives, push prams through a market place packed with Semtex or mimic injury to draw you in then detonate themselves. All to cause mass causalities civilian or otherwise. Life has very little value in some countries. Western rules of engagement, laws of war and values of POW’s never existed in those wars, the campaigns were entirely different so often non-compliance in any respect would result in lawful lethal force being used and often as an immediate escalation. Maybe you had to experience these things to understand them, but death was martyrdom, not a loss, the philosophy of combat was a world away from our western values and there society still is You've not replied to my response earlier. These concerns were raised by people who did know, were experienced and could empathise. The BBC didn't imvent the concerns, they're reporting on internal emails from within the special forces chain of command. Using the "you don't understand" defense is a bit stupid when (for example) a senior officer actually committed to writing his concern that there was a deliberate policy of unlawful killing. Mr" I’m not staying unequivocally that you can’t understand, also that bad things don’t happen, it’s a war, of course it dies. I’m saying tue experiences are very different, equally so for senior officers who are not in the ground, may not be engaged on the tasks these units are or embed within them. During my time an executive order (From General Pretraus US Supreme Commander) came in urging “Courageous Restraint”, basically don’t shoot incase they are civilians not enemy combatants. It caused loads of coffins to be paraded through Wotton Bassett and created no effective positive change in theatre. Until the source is a frontline guy who can show consistent disregard for military or civil law I can’t buy into these panorama stories. We had Kate Ade in Iraq making streams of nonsense up, reporters do this, they embellish facts to grow the narrative, Al Jazerra News was incredibly biased and caused huge damage to all parties | |||
"Please, please, please put a politics / opinions page on here !! Then we can avoid this type of posting. This has nothing to do with the lifestyle whatsoever. Surely there are other sites with forum's for this kind of topic(s). We know, "well don't read it"... It's a SWINGER'S SITE for god's sake. Rant end's (it's hot & we are bothered)." There has been a politics thread for a long time now. ..... since about ......oooooooooooooo Covid2019.... began. You could have avoided the thread by not clicking on it. Thank me later x | |||
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"Please, please, please put a politics / opinions page on here !! Then we can avoid this type of posting. This has nothing to do with the lifestyle whatsoever. Surely there are other sites with forum's for this kind of topic(s). We know, "well don't read it"... It's a SWINGER'S SITE for god's sake. Rant end's (it's hot & we are bothered). There has been a politics thread for a long time now. ..... since about ......oooooooooooooo Covid2019.... began. You could have avoided the thread by not clicking on it. Thank me later x " It's not that I wish to appear pedantic, but I believe you're thinking of the virus forum. The politics forum has been going since June 2016 (that's how far the archive list at the bottom of the politics page goes back anyway). | |||
"Please, please, please put a politics / opinions page on here !! Then we can avoid this type of posting. This has nothing to do with the lifestyle whatsoever. Surely there are other sites with forum's for this kind of topic(s). We know, "well don't read it"... It's a SWINGER'S SITE for god's sake. Rant end's (it's hot & we are bothered). There has been a politics thread for a long time now. ..... since about ......oooooooooooooo Covid2019.... began. You could have avoided the thread by not clicking on it. Thank me later x It's not that I wish to appear pedantic, but I believe you're thinking of the virus forum. The politics forum has been going since June 2016 (that's how far the archive list at the bottom of the politics page goes back anyway)." From memory the politics forum was introduced in the lead up to the brexit referendum because the lounge was over run with threads and it wasn't all that fun a place to post. | |||
"Please, please, please put a politics / opinions page on here !! Then we can avoid this type of posting. This has nothing to do with the lifestyle whatsoever. Surely there are other sites with forum's for this kind of topic(s). We know, "well don't read it"... It's a SWINGER'S SITE for god's sake. Rant end's (it's hot & we are bothered). There has been a politics thread for a long time now. ..... since about ......oooooooooooooo Covid2019.... began. You could have avoided the thread by not clicking on it. Thank me later x It's not that I wish to appear pedantic, but I believe you're thinking of the virus forum. The politics forum has been going since June 2016 (that's how far the archive list at the bottom of the politics page goes back anyway)." Dagnabbit ! I do believe you are right Muttley ! I'd overlooked the addition of the virus forum ... I remember the politics forum starting and in minute or two I will remember the name of the lovely bloke who probably raised a need for one..... | |||
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"Killing 54 unarmed men is wrong. Arrrrrr but then i think of the twin towers they blew up killing 3000 people, oh an the cutting peoples heads off in the street, oh an all the road side bombs blowing up troops an anyone else who triggered them off aaaaan the not wearing of uniform so we didn’t even know who we were fighting..hahaha.. The SAS are monsters…hahaha.. fuck off they’re fucking hero’s. Honestly the uk what a load of shit, now let me win the lotto so i can get the fuck out of here..hahaha.. " ........................ Behaving like the animals you despise is hardly likely to win hearts & minds is it? What a great recruitment sergeant for Islamic terrorists everywhere...the wonderful elite British Special Air Service killing people for fun....sounds a but Talibanish to me (if it did happen). Ps read up on the 30 year preamble to the 2001 atrocity btw, very interesting. | |||
"IF it happened, fair play to our Boyz. You can't blame them when the Taliban SCUM were allegedly hanging our lads body parts in trees. Now all we need is for a saviour to hang Putin by the balls (IF he has any). "Just to be clear, you're saying murdering some people is cool, and murdering others isn't cool. And ethnicity/nationality is the differential? | |||
"On TV tonight are allegations that SAS night squads were bumping off captured people in Afghan to bag a bigger body count than the unit they relieved. Not sure this is responsible reporting. What's going on here.... " Don't believe everything you read, apparently an investigation was carried out and allegations were quashed... | |||
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"Please, please, please put a politics / opinions page on here !! Then we can avoid this type of posting. This has nothing to do with the lifestyle whatsoever. Surely there are other sites with forum's for this kind of topic(s). We know, "well don't read it"... It's a SWINGER'S SITE for god's sake. Rant end's (it's hot & we are bothered). There has been a politics thread for a long time now. ..... since about ......oooooooooooooo Covid2019.... began. You could have avoided the thread by not clicking on it. Thank me later x It's not that I wish to appear pedantic, but I believe you're thinking of the virus forum. The politics forum has been going since June 2016 (that's how far the archive list at the bottom of the politics page goes back anyway). Dagnabbit ! I do believe you are right Muttley ! I'd overlooked the addition of the virus forum ... I remember the politics forum starting and in minute or two I will remember the name of the lovely bloke who probably raised a need for one..... " Who was that Granny... Wake Up Peoples..... | |||
"This needs reporting. It is a war crime." Slightly jumping the gun there..... It isn't a war crime until there's been a legal judgement to declare it so. This has been investigated twice and found no case to answer. Certainly once by the RMP who don't take much crap. From what I've read so far the RMP have requested sight of the Panorama evidence, but haven't had anything yet. Trial by press is not the right way to go. If they have evidence turn it over. Winston | |||
"On TV tonight are allegations that SAS night squads were bumping off captured people in Afghan to bag a bigger body count than the unit they relieved. Not sure this is responsible reporting. What's going on here.... Don't believe everything you read, apparently an investigation was carried out and allegations were quashed..." Yep. Coz the powers that be have never covered up their mistakes have they. How many enquiries did it take before anything was found wrong with the way the Hillsborough disaster was policed? Its funny how many people will happily accept the findings of some enquiries but not others. Mr | |||
"This needs reporting. It is a war crime. Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.." you had rules in NI was it the yellow card system in regards to the rules of engagement? | |||
"Can’t believe people still watch the news let alone believe any of it" Well said ( shite sells) | |||
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"This needs reporting. It is a war crime. Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.. you had rules in NI was it the yellow card system in regards to the rules of engagement?" Yes but when fired upon you didn't have to shout.that you are British army and will shoot if they don't stop 3 times. People have scoffed at the card rules of engagement but I used it in 1983 and it saved me from shooting a guy carrying a couple of shovels for his gardening. | |||
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"This needs reporting. It is a war crime. Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.. you had rules in NI was it the yellow card system in regards to the rules of engagement? Yes but when fired upon you didn't have to shout.that you are British army and will shoot if they don't stop 3 times. People have scoffed at the card rules of engagement but I used it in 1983 and it saved me from shooting a guy carrying a couple of shovels for his gardening. " Was he gardening or burying a body.. why did he need more than one shovel ? Who else was involved ? Did you ask those questions? | |||
"They are still trying to prosecute soldiers over the troubles in northern Ireland but let off the IRA " How many soldiers have been found guilty? You should remember there are two sides to every story and wrongs done by all sides. | |||
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"They are still trying to prosecute soldiers over the troubles in northern Ireland but let off the IRA How many soldiers have been found guilty? You should remember there are two sides to every story and wrongs done by all sides. " many that I know are still going to court over this | |||
"many that I know are still going to court over this " Indeed, and MOD’s treatment of Danny Nightingale | |||
"This needs reporting. It is a war crime. Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.. you had rules in NI was it the yellow card system in regards to the rules of engagement? Yes but when fired upon you didn't have to shout.that you are British army and will shoot if they don't stop 3 times. People have scoffed at the card rules of engagement but I used it in 1983 and it saved me from shooting a guy carrying a couple of shovels for his gardening. Was he gardening or burying a body.. why did he need more than one shovel ? Who else was involved ? Did you ask those questions?" I did ask him why on earth was he carrying two shovels about at 10pm at night he was quite blunt and honest saying he pinched them of a building site and was going to do his garden the next day. He did go pale when I told him he was seconds away from being shot. For on e the rules worked for everyone but I still had the piss taken out of me and was called night garden for a while after the kids TV program in the night garden. I also got praised by my superiors for doing the right thing. | |||
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"Does anyone truly think that the soldiers and marines that make it through to become the most elite special forces in the world would engage in a numbers killed chart. If you do you are just as deluded as the BBC who were never at any of those alleged killings. Read between the lines. Most special forces deploy with body worn cameras on a mission, where is the footage or live time feed. Yes, this has been available for years. " Irrespective of rational or regiment, the UK government has paid out compensation for 289 killings of civilians in Afghanistan. . | |||
"They are still trying to prosecute soldiers over the troubles in northern Ireland but let off the IRA How many soldiers have been found guilty? You should remember there are two sides to every story and wrongs done by all sides. many that I know are still going to court over this " There are countless crimes perpetrated by British soldiers and RUC/B Specials against ordinary civilians that have never been properly investigated. I’ll name just two, The Miami Showband massacre and The Dublin/Monaghan bombings. I detest that one sided view of good guy/bad guy. | |||
"They are still trying to prosecute soldiers over the troubles in northern Ireland but let off the IRA How many soldiers have been found guilty? You should remember there are two sides to every story and wrongs done by all sides. many that I know are still going to court over this There are countless crimes perpetrated by British soldiers and RUC/B Specials against ordinary civilians that have never been properly investigated. I’ll name just two, The Miami Showband massacre and The Dublin/Monaghan bombings. I detest that one sided view of good guy/bad guy. " Many crimes by the IRA et al not solved. Birmingham… | |||
"This needs reporting. It is a war crime. Fuck the reporting you’ll only hear one side. Everyone become a judge but where were they when we were being shot at? Fuck the rules. When one round come at me i would empty a clip back at them. By the way the tax payer paid for my rounds to fire back then tell me i’m wrong. Yeah fuck off..haha.. you had rules in NI was it the yellow card system in regards to the rules of engagement? Yes but when fired upon you didn't have to shout.that you are British army and will shoot if they don't stop 3 times. People have scoffed at the card rules of engagement but I used it in 1983 and it saved me from shooting a guy carrying a couple of shovels for his gardening. Was he gardening or burying a body.. why did he need more than one shovel ? Who else was involved ? Did you ask those questions? I did ask him why on earth was he carrying two shovels about at 10pm at night he was quite blunt and honest saying he pinched them of a building site and was going to do his garden the next day. He did go pale when I told him he was seconds away from being shot. For on e the rules worked for everyone but I still had the piss taken out of me and was called night garden for a while after the kids TV program in the night garden. I also got praised by my superiors for doing the right thing." I’m confused the knight garden was from the mid 2000s my kids watched it but you are saying you got called that as far back as 1983? | |||
"They are still trying to prosecute soldiers over the troubles in northern Ireland but let off the IRA How many soldiers have been found guilty? You should remember there are two sides to every story and wrongs done by all sides. many that I know are still going to court over this There are countless crimes perpetrated by British soldiers and RUC/B Specials against ordinary civilians that have never been properly investigated. I’ll name just two, The Miami Showband massacre and The Dublin/Monaghan bombings. I detest that one sided view of good guy/bad guy. Many crimes by the IRA et al not solved. Birmingham…" Jesus you could have picked one that made the British look even a little bit good. Tell you what, throw in The Guildford Four and The Maguire Seven and give me a right good laugh. | |||
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"One thing about the innocent civilians? Is that both in Iraq and Afghanistan the combatants against the Military never wore uniforms? Therefore they could become an innocent civilian in seconds !! When your at war an someone is in uniform it’s them and us ! No uniform means everyone is a them and no one can be taken as an innocent civilian!!! " So going by your bizarre simplistic logic it would have been fine to kill ALL civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan (and presumably Northern Ireland?) because all of them might have been terrorists? Thank God that nearly all British soldiers have some intelligence, judgement, morality, and understanding of the situations that they are in, unlike you! | |||
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"Killing 54 unarmed men is wrong. Arrrrrr but then i think of the twin towers they blew up killing 3000 people, oh an the cutting peoples heads off in the street, oh an all the road side bombs blowing up troops an anyone else who triggered them off aaaaan the not wearing of uniform so we didn’t even know who we were fighting..hahaha.. The SAS are monsters…hahaha.. fuck off they’re fucking hero’s. Honestly the uk what a load of shit, now let me win the lotto so i can get the fuck out of here..hahaha.. " | |||
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"If the investigating body is unable to be thorough & robust, this also needs addressing. " The official line is that this has been investigated, and that no evidence of a crime (or crimes) was found. Twice. I think the BBC have misjudged this and seem to have chosen to accept one side of the story as ‘fact’ with little evidence but lots of hearsay to support it. | |||
"Panorama will present this story in such a way as to make it look like impartial journalism but its not. Whoever has put this togather has an axe to grind. The MOD have said that all these alledged offenses have been investigated and not enough evidence was presented to warrant any prosecutions and be under no allusion, The MOD will prosecute every breach of the Rules of Engagement. " | |||
"If the investigating body is unable to be thorough & robust, this also needs addressing. The official line is that this has been investigated, and that no evidence of a crime (or crimes) was found. Twice. I think the BBC have misjudged this and seem to have chosen to accept one side of the story as ‘fact’ with little evidence but lots of hearsay to support it." Exactly... | |||
"Can’t believe people still watch the news let alone believe any of it Well said ( shite sells) " Totally... | |||
