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So another Premier League footballer has been arrested for a sex crime. They've not been named yet though. In the last 2 seasons alone theres been Mendy, Greenwood, Sigurdson and now this unknown player.
My question is do you think this kind of thing has always been going on in football but before women were too scared to come forward or were scared/paid off? Or do you you think because of ever increasing wages and Social Media increasing the celebrity of even bang average players, that the entitlement of players has grown to a toxic level and the current generation of players can't take no for an answer? |
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"So another Premier League footballer has been arrested for a sex crime. They've not been named yet though. In the last 2 seasons alone theres been Mendy, Greenwood, Sigurdson and now this unknown player.
My question is do you think this kind of thing has always been going on in football but before women were too scared to come forward or were scared/paid off? Or do you you think because of ever increasing wages and Social Media increasing the celebrity of even bang average players, that the entitlement of players has grown to a toxic level and the current generation of players can't take no for an answer?"
I saw the story. Firstly innocent till proven guilty.
Secondly the media are toxic so race to the bottom on pretty much everything and anything. That said. I think there's an increasingly aggressive attitude by some men towards women that seems to be tolerated or in some cases encouraged. Sexualusation of everything is rife. Women on TV are celebrated and fawned over by all and sundry for having a short skirt and big tits and then we wonder why these things happen. |
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"So now football is not only a thugs sport (not all I might add are thugs) but it’s also a sexual predatory arena
They are paid Farrrrrr too much! "
I think that last part says a lot... I think its a money thing rather than a "football" thing |
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"So another Premier League footballer has been arrested for a sex crime. They've not been named yet though. In the last 2 seasons alone theres been Mendy, Greenwood, Sigurdson and now this unknown player.
My question is do you think this kind of thing has always been going on in football but before women were too scared to come forward or were scared/paid off? Or do you you think because of ever increasing wages and Social Media increasing the celebrity of even bang average players, that the entitlement of players has grown to a toxic level and the current generation of players can't take no for an answer?
I saw the story. Firstly innocent till proven guilty.
Secondly the media are toxic so race to the bottom on pretty much everything and anything. That said. I think there's an increasingly aggressive attitude by some men towards women that seems to be tolerated or in some cases encouraged. Sexualusation of everything is rife. Women on TV are celebrated and fawned over by all and sundry for having a short skirt and big tits and then we wonder why these things happen. "
Are you actually using the argument they wear reveling outfits so it's their fault when they get assaulted! That's a massive fed flag and a worrying attitude to have, especially on a site like this! Consent is consent doesn't matter if someone is wearing a habit, skimpy clothes or nothing at all! |
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"So another Premier League footballer has been arrested for a sex crime. They've not been named yet though. In the last 2 seasons alone theres been Mendy, Greenwood, Sigurdson and now this unknown player.
My question is do you think this kind of thing has always been going on in football but before women were too scared to come forward or were scared/paid off? Or do you you think because of ever increasing wages and Social Media increasing the celebrity of even bang average players, that the entitlement of players has grown to a toxic level and the current generation of players can't take no for an answer?
I saw the story. Firstly innocent till proven guilty.
Secondly the media are toxic so race to the bottom on pretty much everything and anything. That said. I think there's an increasingly aggressive attitude by some men towards women that seems to be tolerated or in some cases encouraged. Sexualusation of everything is rife. Women on TV are celebrated and fawned over by all and sundry for having a short skirt and big tits and then we wonder why these things happen.
Are you actually using the argument they wear reveling outfits so it's their fault when they get assaulted! That's a massive fed flag and a worrying attitude to have, especially on a site like this! Consent is consent doesn't matter if someone is wearing a habit, skimpy clothes or nothing at all! "
No I'm not using that argument at all. That's ludicrous. The argument I'm saying is that the media and those who feed it use sex and sexualisation for their Benfits. |
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over a year ago
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"So another Premier League footballer has been arrested for a sex crime. They've not been named yet though. In the last 2 seasons alone theres been Mendy, Greenwood, Sigurdson and now this unknown player.
My question is do you think this kind of thing has always been going on in football but before women were too scared to come forward or were scared/paid off? Or do you you think because of ever increasing wages and Social Media increasing the celebrity of even bang average players, that the entitlement of players has grown to a toxic level and the current generation of players can't take no for an answer?"
Both.
I'd also add that some players at elite clubs now come up through the academy system and don't have any comprehension of real life, and therefore behaviours. But in all, I'd say its a very very small percentage who are total wrong uns. A higher percentage that are entitled bellends, surrounded by other wet wipes. |
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If you think that Premier League footballers are now infamous for sexual misconduct (polite term). Then check out news stories Deshaun Watson the newly signed quarterback of Cleveland Browns NFL team. Currently over 20 separate cases against him.
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Pretty sure these things happen regularly in places where there is money and fame. They usually shut it down by negotiating privately. Some brave souls get the courage to stand up against people like these. |
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"Men, money . No difference to men no money. If they want sex they do it.
Sexual assault happens every day. Can't say the R word.
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Somehow it seems to have been normalised. Even when, in the extremely rare cases when someone is actually caught and successfully prosecuted, the sentences are similar to those for more trivial matters. There doesn't seem to be any appetite to improve things. |
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I think when you give young guys millions a year
Then add on top of that they have their pick of women
The average footballer is gonna have his DMs full of attractive women trying to get him into bed
Weird stuff is gonna happen. I’ll wait for the details to come out before making a decision
Sex crimes cover a very large range of incidents |
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By *KloganMan
over a year ago
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I think there’s more to the argument than just “Money and Fame”.. Academy players (16-23) study too, they don’t just get given money and flash cars.
It’s true, some do get a good salary, nothing compared to the elite players, but the vast majority of youth footballers get somewhere between £300 and £1.5k per week.
They also have to study a full life diploma through the club which is based on a programme that covers criminal law, emotional wellbeing, discrimination, faith, finance, mental skills, sexual health and consent, social media, transferable skills, radicalisation, road safety and lifestyle education on key subjects such as gaming, gambling, alcohol and drugs.
They are about as well rounded as they can be..
There has to be something more driven by society, economic challenges, exploitation… a culture.
Yes, some footballers will be found guilty and rightly punished, as will all walks of society.. but the distinction is that it’s not the profession they have but the background and people they immerse themselves with. |
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"Nof condoning it but don't you think some women search out the famous?
And if they do? Pretty sure they don't search out to be assaulted."
and that's the point of the police and legal system to ensure the accusation is followed up in the correct way to make sure it's taken seriously with compassion and understanding.
However unfortunately there's been many many cases of false accusations particularly if the person has money.
But and I can't stress this enough
It's doesn't mean that accusations against rich people should be taken lightly,every case should be taken seriously and in both circumstances the guilty party should suffer the consequences.
Be it the accused or the accuser.
But I am not in favour of the person accused being named until proven guilty. |
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"Nof condoning it but don't you think some women search out the famous?
And if they do? Pretty sure they don't search out to be assaulted. and that's the point of the police and legal system to ensure the accusation is followed up in the correct way to make sure it's taken seriously with compassion and understanding.
However unfortunately there's been many many cases of false accusations particularly if the person has money.
But and I can't stress this enough
It's doesn't mean that accusations against rich people should be taken lightly,every case should be taken seriously and in both circumstances the guilty party should suffer the consequences.
Be it the accused or the accuser.
But I am not in favour of the person accused being named until proven guilty."
And too add the victim should be given every resource available to assist in their recovery, which I have no doubt a recovery that will be long and traumatic. |
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"Nof condoning it but don't you think some women search out the famous?
And if they do? Pretty sure they don't search out to be assaulted. and that's the point of the police and legal system to ensure the accusation is followed up in the correct way to make sure it's taken seriously with compassion and understanding.
However unfortunately there's been many many cases of false accusations particularly if the person has money.
But and I can't stress this enough
It's doesn't mean that accusations against rich people should be taken lightly,every case should be taken seriously and in both circumstances the guilty party should suffer the consequences.
Be it the accused or the accuser.
But I am not in favour of the person accused being named until proven guilty."
That fact that all of these athletes go through training to not get caught out by these kinda things means it happens enough that the academy’s have acknowledge it and are taking actions to prevent it
And fool and his money are easily parted. Especially when it involves beautiful women |
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"Innocent to proven guilty . Too many women making aligations these days unfortunately "
Got any evidence to back that up? From what I see, not enough of them are reporting, because when they do report the chances of it getting to a successful prosecution are close to zero. |
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"So another Premier League footballer has been arrested for a sex crime. They've not been named yet though. In the last 2 seasons alone theres been Mendy, Greenwood, Sigurdson and now this unknown player.
My question is do you think this kind of thing has always been going on in football but before women were too scared to come forward or were scared/paid off? Or do you you think because of ever increasing wages and Social Media increasing the celebrity of even bang average players, that the entitlement of players has grown to a toxic level and the current generation of players can't take no for an answer?"
Firstly innocent until proven guilty, you also need to look at the possibility that the allegation is false. This could easily be a self entitled footballer, a sexual predator regardless of profession or someone trying to make some money from a wealthy person. Either way we just need to hope that justice will prevail |
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"Innocent to proven guilty . Too many women making aligations these days unfortunately
Got any evidence to back that up? From what I see, not enough of them are reporting, because when they do report the chances of it getting to a successful prosecution are close to zero. "
The UK home office estimated 1 in 12 are false. I’d imagine it’s a lot higher when the person has a lot to gain (out of court settlement) from the accusation |
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"Innocent to proven guilty . Too many women making aligations these days unfortunately
Got any evidence to back that up? From what I see, not enough of them are reporting, because when they do report the chances of it getting to a successful prosecution are close to zero.
The UK home office estimated 1 in 12 are false. I’d imagine it’s a lot higher when the person has a lot to gain (out of court settlement) from the accusation"
But that means 11 in 12 are not false.
11 in 12 = 91.6%
1 in 12 = 8.3%
The overwhelming majority are (according to those numbers) true. |
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"Innocent to proven guilty . Too many women making aligations these days unfortunately
Got any evidence to back that up? From what I see, not enough of them are reporting, because when they do report the chances of it getting to a successful prosecution are close to zero.
The UK home office estimated 1 in 12 are false. I’d imagine it’s a lot higher when the person has a lot to gain (out of court settlement) from the accusation
But that means 11 in 12 are not false.
11 in 12 = 91.6%
1 in 12 = 8.3%
The overwhelming majority are (according to those numbers) true."
No one’s denied the majority aren’t true
I’d agree that 8.3% is far too many |
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False accusations are a tiny minority yet there are always people making out like the majority of accusations are fake. Some of the comments in this thread are very telling.
The main difference now with regard to footballers is that some women are brave enough to come forward - even though they know the chances of justice are tiny. They’re not as untouchable as they used to be.
The tactics used in some of the cases - the naming & shaming over Twitter of the 15yo girl in the Adam Johnson case as I’ve example - are horrific. |
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"Innocent to proven guilty . Too many women making aligations these days unfortunately
Got any evidence to back that up? From what I see, not enough of them are reporting, because when they do report the chances of it getting to a successful prosecution are close to zero.
The UK home office estimated 1 in 12 are false. I’d imagine it’s a lot higher when the person has a lot to gain (out of court settlement) from the accusation
But that means 11 in 12 are not false.
11 in 12 = 91.6%
1 in 12 = 8.3%
The overwhelming majority are (according to those numbers) true."
And kind of missing the point, that our culture has somewhat normalised this type of crime. Women should be able to go about their lives without having to check in on mates safety and making special arrangements to get home safely. For those making false claims... This stuff sticks like mud and ruins lives and means we can then have comments like ("well loads of claims are false") We need to take both sides much more seriously. |
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"It’s funny how there’s always such a focus on the 8% of cases being false, yet never the same fuss on the fact that only 1.3% of reports ever see someone charged…"
Because that stat sounds misleading to me
Are you saying that even if the police have CCTV evidence of a crime, they choose to turn the blind eye on 98.7% of cases?
Or is it more likely that most of these crimes happen in private where it turns into a “he said she said” situation and the police can’t put someone in prison based off 1 persons word?
I have a seriously hard time believing that with enough evidence, a conviction would must be ignored
I think it’s much more an issue of having enough evidence to get a conviction, rather then police just turning a blind eye. I’m sure that’s the case sometimes, but not enough of the time to make the 1.3% stat relevant |
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I totally agree no-one should make false accusations of any kind of crime. However it's not just this particular type of crime where there's false reporting. Each and every time one brave person speaks out against a famous person (not just footballers), the voices saying "but s/he or they probably deserved it/shouldn't have worn XYZ/might be making it up" etc are far too loud and widespread.
Where are the voices saying "it's time famous and entitled people stopped committing serious crimes and kudos to the individual who has come forward?" |
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"It’s funny how there’s always such a focus on the 8% of cases being false, yet never the same fuss on the fact that only 1.3% of reports ever see someone charged…
Because that stat sounds misleading to me
Are you saying that even if the police have CCTV evidence of a crime, they choose to turn the blind eye on 98.7% of cases?
Or is it more likely that most of these crimes happen in private where it turns into a “he said she said” situation and the police can’t put someone in prison based off 1 persons word?
I have a seriously hard time believing that with enough evidence, a conviction would must be ignored
I think it’s much more an issue of having enough evidence to get a conviction, rather then police just turning a blind eye. I’m sure that’s the case sometimes, but not enough of the time to make the 1.3% stat relevant "
“In the year to September 2021, just 1.3% of r-PE cases recorded by police resulted in a suspect being charged (or receiving a summons). This compares to a 7.1% charge rate for all other recorded crimes in the same period.”
The stat is what it is.
The number of reports that lead to charges (let alone convictions) has always been appallingly low. Yet that’s never discussed remotely as much as the “well there’s loads of fake allegations so…”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48095118.amp - that’s the article in which the stat is discussed. |
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"It’s funny how there’s always such a focus on the 8% of cases being false, yet never the same fuss on the fact that only 1.3% of reports ever see someone charged…
Because that stat sounds misleading to me
Are you saying that even if the police have CCTV evidence of a crime, they choose to turn the blind eye on 98.7% of cases?
Or is it more likely that most of these crimes happen in private where it turns into a “he said she said” situation and the police can’t put someone in prison based off 1 persons word?
I have a seriously hard time believing that with enough evidence, a conviction would must be ignored
I think it’s much more an issue of having enough evidence to get a conviction, rather then police just turning a blind eye. I’m sure that’s the case sometimes, but not enough of the time to make the 1.3% stat relevant
“In the year to September 2021, just 1.3% of r-PE cases recorded by police resulted in a suspect being charged (or receiving a summons). This compares to a 7.1% charge rate for all other recorded crimes in the same period.”
The stat is what it is.
The number of reports that lead to charges (let alone convictions) has always been appallingly low. Yet that’s never discussed remotely as much as the “well there’s loads of fake allegations so…”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48095118.amp - that’s the article in which the stat is discussed."
The article itself mentions having enough evidence being the main issue.
So to me, that stat by itself is misleading. It’s trying to print the narrative that police are intentionally turning a blind eye even with good evidence. Which isn’t what’s happening |
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"It’s funny how there’s always such a focus on the 8% of cases being false, yet never the same fuss on the fact that only 1.3% of reports ever see someone charged…
Because that stat sounds misleading to me
Are you saying that even if the police have CCTV evidence of a crime, they choose to turn the blind eye on 98.7% of cases?
Or is it more likely that most of these crimes happen in private where it turns into a “he said she said” situation and the police can’t put someone in prison based off 1 persons word?
I have a seriously hard time believing that with enough evidence, a conviction would must be ignored
I think it’s much more an issue of having enough evidence to get a conviction, rather then police just turning a blind eye. I’m sure that’s the case sometimes, but not enough of the time to make the 1.3% stat relevant
“In the year to September 2021, just 1.3% of r-PE cases recorded by police resulted in a suspect being charged (or receiving a summons). This compares to a 7.1% charge rate for all other recorded crimes in the same period.”
The stat is what it is.
The number of reports that lead to charges (let alone convictions) has always been appallingly low. Yet that’s never discussed remotely as much as the “well there’s loads of fake allegations so…”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48095118.amp - that’s the article in which the stat is discussed.
The article itself mentions having enough evidence being the main issue.
So to me, that stat by itself is misleading. It’s trying to print the narrative that police are intentionally turning a blind eye even with good evidence. Which isn’t what’s happening "
You only have to look at the Rochdale scandal to see the police turning a blind eye. A 12 year old who went to police and was ignored, then r& ped over the next 24 hours by multiple men.
Only two were convicted. GMP were told the mens names, but didn’t follow it up at the time.
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My point was the fact that the false allegations stats always get trotted out early, and the fact that so few cases ever get convicted is barely mentioned.
So far on this thread alone we’ve already had the false allegations thing and a correlation between short skirts & big tits on tv. |
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"It’s funny how there’s always such a focus on the 8% of cases being false, yet never the same fuss on the fact that only 1.3% of reports ever see someone charged…
Because that stat sounds misleading to me
Are you saying that even if the police have CCTV evidence of a crime, they choose to turn the blind eye on 98.7% of cases?
Or is it more likely that most of these crimes happen in private where it turns into a “he said she said” situation and the police can’t put someone in prison based off 1 persons word?
I have a seriously hard time believing that with enough evidence, a conviction would must be ignored
I think it’s much more an issue of having enough evidence to get a conviction, rather then police just turning a blind eye. I’m sure that’s the case sometimes, but not enough of the time to make the 1.3% stat relevant
“In the year to September 2021, just 1.3% of r-PE cases recorded by police resulted in a suspect being charged (or receiving a summons). This compares to a 7.1% charge rate for all other recorded crimes in the same period.”
The stat is what it is.
The number of reports that lead to charges (let alone convictions) has always been appallingly low. Yet that’s never discussed remotely as much as the “well there’s loads of fake allegations so…”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48095118.amp - that’s the article in which the stat is discussed.
The article itself mentions having enough evidence being the main issue.
So to me, that stat by itself is misleading. It’s trying to print the narrative that police are intentionally turning a blind eye even with good evidence. Which isn’t what’s happening
You only have to look at the Rochdale scandal to see the police turning a blind eye. A 12 year old who went to police and was ignored, then r& ped over the next 24 hours by multiple men.
Only two were convicted. GMP were told the mens names, but didn’t follow it up at the time.
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That’s why they said, I’m sure it happens sometimes. We’ve seen multiple examples of corruption in the police.
But I still think that 1.3% stat is misleading. Especially when it’s used without proper context |
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I wouldn’t say it’s just ‘sometimes’
This particular case the police knew the names of two other of the girls attackers for 15 years and did nothing.
From the article ‘ “We’ve referred 33 serious cases through to very senior officers where victims and survivors are coming to us saying they do not believe their cases are being dealt with properly,” she adds.
“Of those 33 cases we have only seen a resolution on one of those cases. That is really concerning. I’m hoping that things get better but we still have a very, very long way to go.’’
That’s just one small part we’re hearing about. Christ knows how many more
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/girl-12-repeatedly-raped-hours-24286113.amp |
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"I wouldn’t say it’s just ‘sometimes’
This particular case the police knew the names of two other of the girls attackers for 15 years and did nothing.
From the article ‘ “We’ve referred 33 serious cases through to very senior officers where victims and survivors are coming to us saying they do not believe their cases are being dealt with properly,” she adds.
“Of those 33 cases we have only seen a resolution on one of those cases. That is really concerning. I’m hoping that things get better but we still have a very, very long way to go.’’
That’s just one small part we’re hearing about. Christ knows how many more
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/girl-12-repeatedly-raped-hours-24286113.amp"
Well the article linked said there were 67k reports in 2021 so I guess our definition of “sometimes” is just different |
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That’s why they said, I’m sure it happens sometimes. We’ve seen multiple examples of corruption in the police.
But I still think that 1.3% stat is misleading. Especially when it’s used without proper context "
How is it misleading?
That is the number of reports that see charges.
And it is much less talked about than the false allegation stat. That’s my point… you open up a thread on this topic and you are guaranteed to read “false allegations” “lots of women lie” “short skirts” every time.
Yet never any chat about how low the conviction rate is.
It just says a lot about the attitude toward it. |
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That’s why they said, I’m sure it happens sometimes. We’ve seen multiple examples of corruption in the police.
But I still think that 1.3% stat is misleading. Especially when it’s used without proper context
How is it misleading?
That is the number of reports that see charges.
And it is much less talked about than the false allegation stat. That’s my point… you open up a thread on this topic and you are guaranteed to read “false allegations” “lots of women lie” “short skirts” every time.
Yet never any chat about how low the conviction rate is.
It just says a lot about the attitude toward it. "
I’ve already stated in a different comment why I think it’s misleading. Stats can easily be misleading without proper context. Not typing it out again so I guess we can agree to disagree on it. |
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For me the bigger issue is the culture we have that creates men who think its OK to do it. Not so much the process of reporting and then caching and then prosecuting and then punishing / rehab. By its nature many occasions its an argument over consent or he said / she said. But for me the bigger issue is why and how has it become just a part of what happens to you sometimes..? Q |
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"For me the bigger issue is the culture we have that creates men who think its OK to do it. Not so much the process of reporting and then caching and then prosecuting and then punishing / rehab. By its nature many occasions its an argument over consent or he said / she said. But for me the bigger issue is why and how has it become just a part of what happens to you sometimes..? Q"
Do you not see that comments like “Women on TV are celebrated and fawned over by all and sundry for having a short skirt and big tits and then we wonder why these things happen.” are part of the problem? |
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"For me the bigger issue is the culture we have that creates men who think its OK to do it. Not so much the process of reporting and then caching and then prosecuting and then punishing / rehab. By its nature many occasions its an argument over consent or he said / she said. But for me the bigger issue is why and how has it become just a part of what happens to you sometimes..? Q"
Fuck knows but it's beyond awful that we live in a world where most of us now know more people who've been sexually assaulted than haven't 
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I think money, fame etc has meant that these things have always happened and we are only just catching up. Social media, the #Metoo campaign, prosecutions etc have meant people are speaking up more which is fantastic but still not enough. The entitled attitude to other people's bodies needs to stop.
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"For me the bigger issue is the culture we have that creates men who think its OK to do it. Not so much the process of reporting and then caching and then prosecuting and then punishing / rehab. By its nature many occasions its an argument over consent or he said / she said. But for me the bigger issue is why and how has it become just a part of what happens to you sometimes..? Q
Do you not see that comments like “Women on TV are celebrated and fawned over by all and sundry for having a short skirt and big tits and then we wonder why these things happen.” are part of the problem?"
My words and misunderstood. The point I was trying to make, and obviously not succeeding was that we thrive and encourage the sexualisation of all things... The weather girl with the short skirt etc... And then the snide innuendo in the studio and social media. I'm not suggesting in any way that what a woman chooses to wear is asking for it... The exact opposite in fact. The point was that our culture demands the sexualisation of images and content. Main stream shows like love Island whose raison d'etre are titillation, and to script and encourage strangers to fuck eachother on TV.... Being just one of them. I'm not explaining very well but I know what I mean. |
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They’re paid too much, and enabled by people who never say no and get them anything they want - if the money is there. So when a girl says no - they don’t listen - they have a sense of entitlement and an arrogance combined in many cases with toxic masculinity. Society needs a reboot in my opinion. |
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That’s why they said, I’m sure it happens sometimes. We’ve seen multiple examples of corruption in the police.
But I still think that 1.3% stat is misleading. Especially when it’s used without proper context
How is it misleading?
That is the number of reports that see charges.
And it is much less talked about than the false allegation stat. That’s my point… you open up a thread on this topic and you are guaranteed to read “false allegations” “lots of women lie” “short skirts” every time.
Yet never any chat about how low the conviction rate is.
It just says a lot about the attitude toward it. "
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"For me the bigger issue is the culture we have that creates men who think its OK to do it. Not so much the process of reporting and then caching and then prosecuting and then punishing / rehab. By its nature many occasions its an argument over consent or he said / she said. But for me the bigger issue is why and how has it become just a part of what happens to you sometimes..? Q
Do you not see that comments like “Women on TV are celebrated and fawned over by all and sundry for having a short skirt and big tits and then we wonder why these things happen.” are part of the problem?
My words and misunderstood. The point I was trying to make, and obviously not succeeding was that we thrive and encourage the sexualisation of all things... The weather girl with the short skirt etc... And then the snide innuendo in the studio and social media. I'm not suggesting in any way that what a woman chooses to wear is asking for it... The exact opposite in fact. The point was that our culture demands the sexualisation of images and content. Main stream shows like love Island whose raison d'etre are titillation, and to script and encourage strangers to fuck eachother on TV.... Being just one of them. I'm not explaining very well but I know what I mean. "
I get what you meant from the first comment.
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The 1.3pc is misleading.
It measures how many charges are made in the same year as the claim.
So if I make a claim on 31 Dec and a charge is made on 1 Jan it falls under the 99pc
Sept YTD 2019 had almost 40pc of cases as not having reached a conclusion.
Over 40pc were "Evidential difficulties
(victim does not support action)6"
6. Includes evidential difficulties where the suspect was/was not identified and the victim does not support further action.
Im sure convictuon rates are low. Burden of proof on cases which tend to happen behind closed doors will be a challenge to convict.
But imo suggesting a low rate that isn't supported by sensible data (they should keep redoing numbers for 2021 to update for charges made in 2022) is dangerous.
At the extreme, let's assume all cases that hadn't reached a conclusion did so, with a charge (because say it takes a long time to build a case). That would mean a charge rate of 40pc
Yet ppl would be telling victims it's 1pc, implying "why bother"
(I know it's not all going to end in a charge. I'm using the extreme to illustrate why it's potentially dangerous and cause actual damage to victims) |
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"So now football is not only a thugs sport (not all I might add are thugs) but it’s also a sexual predatory arena
They are paid Farrrrrr too much! "
they are paid the going rate by the clubs they play for |
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"Innocent to proven guilty . Too many women making aligations these days unfortunately "
Wow really? Pretty sure some stupidly high percentage (I don't know the figure) of sex crimes go un punished due to lack of reporting, police failures and other things. |
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