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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Fossilised remains of our ancestors called cave woman has baffled scientists. Proof that humans roamed the earth millions of years earlier than previously thought. The next piece of the jigsaw will be man bones found next to the dinosaurs in the same pit. It strikes Tom as odd that these paleontologist types see this as a breakthrough. Tom says that it just proves their ignorance...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

They're not at all ignorant, they just didn't have the evidence.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

Tom seems obsessed with dinosaurs recently. Has he seen the new Jurassic park?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Tom, are you making shit up again?

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden

Tom, it's only one million years, not multiples of millions.

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By *2000ManMan  over a year ago

Worthing

So the Flintstones was true then.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the Flintstones was true then."

A TV show ahead of its time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the Flintstones was true then."

Yabba dabba doo!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You know when I picture cave men hitting a woman over the head and driving her back to a cave. If it was the other way around (the woman hitting the male) do you think she’d ever stop clubbing him?

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one.."

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake."

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends "

But they (the church) now won’t let anyone examin it or prove the initial ‘it’s a fake’ claim (which can prove it’s a fake) to be de-bunked.

It’s age doesn’t add up to the claim. Carbon testing. Science doesn’t lie.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends "

You don’t think the church has always had an agenda.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one.."

No one is doubting the existence of Jesus. In all probability he was around. Was he the son of God is where the debate kicks off.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends "

Science can't lose in this area. If they can prove a god exists, winner, if they can prove a God does not exist, winner.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one.."

Tom is incorrect!

Tom should know that the Turin Shroud has been the subject of radio carbon dating that puts its manufacture to be around the 13th century.

It is a big of snide merchandising promoted by the Catholic Church to make money.

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By *idnight RamblerMan  over a year ago

Pershore

Could be another Piltdown Man hoax. Evolution itself has scant evidence .... or else there would be skeletons with incremental change everywhere. There isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends

Science can't lose in this area. If they can prove a god exists, winner, if they can prove a God does not exist, winner. "

That's it in a nutshell!

Best comment ever!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends

Science can't lose in this area. If they can prove a god exists, winner, if they can prove a God does not exist, winner.

That's it in a nutshell!

Best comment ever!!!"

Really?

Has any religion proved unequivocally that any ofthe current gods actually exists?

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion. "

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan  over a year ago

Aylesbury

You guys all seem to have this one

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance. "

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing...

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing..."

Religious beliefs, scientific theory.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs that are not moveable.

Science is based on theories, that are constantly challenged until proven correct

There is no blind faith in science, mainly observation, facts and challenge.

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By *iltopbearMan  over a year ago

Norfolk

Tom's daily "scientists be crazy" thread

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing...

Religious beliefs, scientific theory.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs that are not moveable.

Science is based on theories, that are constantly challenged until proven correct

There is no blind faith in science, mainly observation, facts and challenge. "

A lot of scientific "proof" goes on to be unproven by more scientists at a later date. Not really sure what that "proves" beyond... Science is fact at that point in time or until another scientist goes on to prove differently. Science of course has a lot of value and goodness. But some people seem to have elevated it to a position it is not worthy of.

Are some scientists religious and have a faith and belief system.?

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By *idlandiaMan  over a year ago

Birmingham

Just read about it. It's a pre human ancestor that's now thought to be older than previously was.

This actually helps as that species wasn't believed to be old enough to have had time to transition to a between state form. It now is.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing...

Religious beliefs, scientific theory.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs that are not moveable.

Science is based on theories, that are constantly challenged until proven correct

There is no blind faith in science, mainly observation, facts and challenge.

A lot of scientific "proof" goes on to be unproven by more scientists at a later date. Not really sure what that "proves" beyond... Science is fact at that point in time or until another scientist goes on to prove differently. Science of course has a lot of value and goodness. But some people seem to have elevated it to a position it is not worthy of.

Are some scientists religious and have a faith and belief system.? "

A scientific theory, simply put is a theory. It will remain a theory until challenge has been exhausted by the theory and it is then a law.

We should expect theories to be proven wrong, if the are not robust.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could be another Piltdown Man hoax. Evolution itself has scant evidence .... or else there would be skeletons with incremental change everywhere. There isn't."

Yes there are. If you'd like to see a transitional form - look in the mirror.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing..."

The god of quick sand?

Tom you’re up to your neck!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ant holes a goal right

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-61976369

The actual news for anyone interested

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By *icolerobbieCouple  over a year ago

walsall

Sounds like an episode of the league of gentlemen to me Tom, are you sure those bodies weren’t planted there by a local? Those sciencey types are easily fooled sometimes…..

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"Fossilised remains of our ancestors called cave woman has baffled scientists. Proof that humans roamed the earth millions of years earlier than previously thought. The next piece of the jigsaw will be man bones found next to the dinosaurs in the same pit. It strikes Tom as odd that these paleontologist types see this as a breakthrough. Tom says that it just proves their ignorance... "

Are you saying you knew about what they have just discovered before they found this new evidence?

Everybody is ignorant of anything until they learn it.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing...

Religious beliefs, scientific theory.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs that are not moveable.

Science is based on theories, that are constantly challenged until proven correct

There is no blind faith in science, mainly observation, facts and challenge.

A lot of scientific "proof" goes on to be unproven by more scientists at a later date. Not really sure what that "proves" beyond... Science is fact at that point in time or until another scientist goes on to prove differently. Science of course has a lot of value and goodness. But some people seem to have elevated it to a position it is not worthy of.

Are some scientists religious and have a faith and belief system.?

A scientific theory, simply put is a theory. It will remain a theory until challenge has been exhausted by the theory and it is then a law.

We should expect theories to be proven wrong, if the are not robust.

"

So it was once scientific fact that the sun and planets orbited the earth... Until it wasn't

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By *allum69Man  over a year ago

Peterborough


"Fossilised remains of our ancestors called cave woman has baffled scientists. Proof that humans roamed the earth millions of years earlier than previously thought. The next piece of the jigsaw will be man bones found next to the dinosaurs in the same pit. It strikes Tom as odd that these paleontologist types see this as a breakthrough. Tom says that it just proves their ignorance... "

I’m a Cave man

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-61976369

The actual news for anyone interested "

Not you again....

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing...

Religious beliefs, scientific theory.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs that are not moveable.

Science is based on theories, that are constantly challenged until proven correct

There is no blind faith in science, mainly observation, facts and challenge.

A lot of scientific "proof" goes on to be unproven by more scientists at a later date. Not really sure what that "proves" beyond... Science is fact at that point in time or until another scientist goes on to prove differently. Science of course has a lot of value and goodness. But some people seem to have elevated it to a position it is not worthy of.

Are some scientists religious and have a faith and belief system.?

A scientific theory, simply put is a theory. It will remain a theory until challenge has been exhausted by the theory and it is then a law.

We should expect theories to be proven wrong, if the are not robust.

So it was once scientific fact that the sun and planets orbited the earth... Until it wasn't "

\

In a nutshell yes.

It would have been a theory until that theory was proven wrong.

The point here, is for people to work successfully and to allow what they have done to be replicated by others a set of rules need to be applied. Those rules can be theories, if they don't hold up, someone will discover that through replication and application.

Weight is great example. To replicate experiments weight needs to be measured precisely, a kilo exists that is a near perfect sphere and a perfect kilo. The most accurate weighing machines are calibrated against these weights, to ensure that when a vaccine is reproduced it is as close as it can possibly be to the exact measurements. Life can depend on it.

I've waffled a little, but to go back to your point, a kilo was invented in 1790's and from it we now have grams, micrograms, and even Nanograms. Before the kilo, all sorts of weights and measures were being used, that no longer exist, they were not up to the job of the modern times. Science and engineering evolved to meet modern day needs. To explain why objects in the sky moved, they would theorise that the Earth must be the centre of the universe and everything travelled around it, the rule was set, others could look and challenge those ideas until they proved it to be wrong, and here we are today, knowing the earth is totally flat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends "

Dann those science types and their fact based, peer reviewed evidence!

Ignorance is the way forwards!

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing...

Religious beliefs, scientific theory.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs that are not moveable.

Science is based on theories, that are constantly challenged until proven correct

There is no blind faith in science, mainly observation, facts and challenge.

A lot of scientific "proof" goes on to be unproven by more scientists at a later date. Not really sure what that "proves" beyond... Science is fact at that point in time or until another scientist goes on to prove differently. Science of course has a lot of value and goodness. But some people seem to have elevated it to a position it is not worthy of.

Are some scientists religious and have a faith and belief system.?

A scientific theory, simply put is a theory. It will remain a theory until challenge has been exhausted by the theory and it is then a law.

We should expect theories to be proven wrong, if the are not robust.

So it was once scientific fact that the sun and planets orbited the earth... Until it wasn't \

In a nutshell yes.

It would have been a theory until that theory was proven wrong.

The point here, is for people to work successfully and to allow what they have done to be replicated by others a set of rules need to be applied. Those rules can be theories, if they don't hold up, someone will discover that through replication and application.

Weight is great example. To replicate experiments weight needs to be measured precisely, a kilo exists that is a near perfect sphere and a perfect kilo. The most accurate weighing machines are calibrated against these weights, to ensure that when a vaccine is reproduced it is as close as it can possibly be to the exact measurements. Life can depend on it.

I've waffled a little, but to go back to your point, a kilo was invented in 1790's and from it we now have grams, micrograms, and even Nanograms. Before the kilo, all sorts of weights and measures were being used, that no longer exist, they were not up to the job of the modern times. Science and engineering evolved to meet modern day needs. To explain why objects in the sky moved, they would theorise that the Earth must be the centre of the universe and everything travelled around it, the rule was set, others could look and challenge those ideas until they proved it to be wrong, and here we are today, knowing the earth is totally flat "

And do you think "science" will continue to evolve in similar ways or has it stopped?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When whichever god you follow can extend a cancer sufferers life I will engage in a sensible debate.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends

Dann those science types and their fact based, peer reviewed evidence!

Ignorance is the way forwards! "

When it's so called peer reviewed by the the general population and not a sliver of the population then I will be interested..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends

Dann those science types and their fact based, peer reviewed evidence!

Ignorance is the way forwards!

When it's so called peer reviewed by the the general population and not a sliver of the population then I will be interested..

"

You will never be interested.

Your curiosity is flaccid.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends

Dann those science types and their fact based, peer reviewed evidence!

Ignorance is the way forwards!

When it's so called peer reviewed by the the general population and not a sliver of the population then I will be interested..

You will never be interested.

Your curiosity is flaccid. "

You mean limp ?

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By *ighty_tightyMan  over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance. "

Have you not met any Americans? They will judge the size by anything that isn't decimal

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I love how people love to "pick the bones" out of science but turn to blind faith when it comes to religion.

2 different things aren't they? One is faith. One is science. Trying to use science to prove or disprove faith is like trying to use a teapot to measure distance.

Of course you can use a teapot to measure distance. If a teapot is 12 inches long and you use it as as measuring stick then how far is ten teapots...

Where the religion of god and the religion of science overlap is their blind belief and faith. Carbon dating may be laughed at one day.

Scientists as they insist on calling themselves are no different to religious types. They just follow a different God. The God of the quicksand were beliefs and truths keep changing...

Religious beliefs, scientific theory.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs that are not moveable.

Science is based on theories, that are constantly challenged until proven correct

There is no blind faith in science, mainly observation, facts and challenge.

A lot of scientific "proof" goes on to be unproven by more scientists at a later date. Not really sure what that "proves" beyond... Science is fact at that point in time or until another scientist goes on to prove differently. Science of course has a lot of value and goodness. But some people seem to have elevated it to a position it is not worthy of.

Are some scientists religious and have a faith and belief system.?

A scientific theory, simply put is a theory. It will remain a theory until challenge has been exhausted by the theory and it is then a law.

We should expect theories to be proven wrong, if the are not robust.

So it was once scientific fact that the sun and planets orbited the earth... Until it wasn't \

In a nutshell yes.

It would have been a theory until that theory was proven wrong.

The point here, is for people to work successfully and to allow what they have done to be replicated by others a set of rules need to be applied. Those rules can be theories, if they don't hold up, someone will discover that through replication and application.

Weight is great example. To replicate experiments weight needs to be measured precisely, a kilo exists that is a near perfect sphere and a perfect kilo. The most accurate weighing machines are calibrated against these weights, to ensure that when a vaccine is reproduced it is as close as it can possibly be to the exact measurements. Life can depend on it.

I've waffled a little, but to go back to your point, a kilo was invented in 1790's and from it we now have grams, micrograms, and even Nanograms. Before the kilo, all sorts of weights and measures were being used, that no longer exist, they were not up to the job of the modern times. Science and engineering evolved to meet modern day needs. To explain why objects in the sky moved, they would theorise that the Earth must be the centre of the universe and everything travelled around it, the rule was set, others could look and challenge those ideas until they proved it to be wrong, and here we are today, knowing the earth is totally flat

And do you think "science" will continue to evolve in similar ways or has it stopped? "

That is for you to answer

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By *hoirCouple  over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds


"Fossilised remains of our ancestors called cave woman has baffled scientists. Proof that humans roamed the earth millions of years earlier than previously thought. The next piece of the jigsaw will be man bones found next to the dinosaurs in the same pit. It strikes Tom as odd that these paleontologist types see this as a breakthrough. Tom says that it just proves their ignorance... "

They also said recently utter bollocks about a Viking female warrior (they buried the women with the 'husbands' effects and also about Cheddar Man (they admitted they bollocksed that up though.)

Science is wrong a fair bit but the way science works, they will correct it.

C

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central


"Fossilised remains of our ancestors called cave woman has baffled scientists. Proof that humans roamed the earth millions of years earlier than previously thought. The next piece of the jigsaw will be man bones found next to the dinosaurs in the same pit. It strikes Tom as odd that these paleontologist types see this as a breakthrough. Tom says that it just proves their ignorance... "
..

We are ignorant of what we don't know, or understand. And the scientific process is no different, often being an iterative process that progressively uncovers more data, or improves our understanding of things.

Improvements in research methods, technology, resources etc, will understandably extend our abilities to reach more accurate conclusions. Science isn't a 1 time thing. It's an ongoing process, sometimes providing surprises. We all make mistakes, it's a human trait.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed."

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Fossilised remains of our ancestors called cave woman has baffled scientists. Proof that humans roamed the earth millions of years earlier than previously thought. The next piece of the jigsaw will be man bones found next to the dinosaurs in the same pit. It strikes Tom as odd that these paleontologist types see this as a breakthrough. Tom says that it just proves their ignorance... ..

We are ignorant of what we don't know, or understand. And the scientific process is no different, often being an iterative process that progressively uncovers more data, or improves our understanding of things.

Improvements in research methods, technology, resources etc, will understandably extend our abilities to reach more accurate conclusions. Science isn't a 1 time thing. It's an ongoing process, sometimes providing surprises. We all make mistakes, it's a human trait. "

That's a good comment. To add slightly..

"Improvements in research methods, technology, resources etc, will understandably extend our abilities to reach more accurate conclusions"... Or to disprove completely... As in the example case sited. I have no issue with any of that. I do take issue with the way some (possibly just lazy social media discussion) who worship "science" and all things science and unable to admit we don't know what we don't know and we understand what we know to be true at the moment. And further profess a rigorous and honest process when often times we know we search for the facts of the truth by setting out to prove only those facts and anything else is an unexplained outlier. The most important thing you said is we are ignorant of what we don't know. It's important to remember the limitations and be open minded enough to acknowledge them.

Now faith on the other hand, has a bit of a get out of jail free card because as far as I can tell.. it requires no scientific proof of anything. It's ultimately whether an individuals believe or not.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

There is more than one elephant in the science lab and it's so big that the scientists can only see grey...

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden


"There is more than one elephant in the science lab and it's so big that the scientists can only see grey... "

How do the scientists get in the lab if it's full of elephants?

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"There is more than one elephant in the science lab and it's so big that the scientists can only see grey...

How do the scientists get in the lab if it's full of elephants?"

I forget

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment "

Discovered Tom, discovered!

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment

Discovered Tom, discovered!"

Newton discovered Tom?

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By *yron69Man  over a year ago

Fareham

Dinosaurs were lazy buggers responsible for their own extinction. I mean around here their bones are only ever found at the beach..

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Dinosaurs were lazy buggers responsible for their own extinction. I mean around here their bones are only ever found at the beach.."

Good point, presumably died waiting for their just eat delivery

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment

Discovered Tom, discovered!

Newton discovered Tom? "

Someone discovered Tom?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Dinosaurs were lazy buggers responsible for their own extinction. I mean around here their bones are only ever found at the beach.."

Probably something to do with that when dinosaurs ruled the earth their final resting place was a forest!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Dinosaurs were lazy buggers responsible for their own extinction. I mean around here their bones are only ever found at the beach..

Good point, presumably died waiting for their just eat delivery "

Or a train!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

The Turin shroud has been shown to be a fake.

Nonsense... These science types have an agenda. Desperate to undermine religion for their own ends

Dann those science types and their fact based, peer reviewed evidence!

Ignorance is the way forwards!

When it's so called peer reviewed by the the general population and not a sliver of the population then I will be interested..

You will never be interested.

Your curiosity is flaccid.

You mean limp ?"

Don’t you limp when you have a poorly leg?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment

Discovered Tom, discovered!

Newton discovered Tom?

Someone discovered Tom?"

Yep he was discovered next to the dinosaur bones on the beach. Scientists have carbon dated him to be about the same age. Remarkable discovery

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Peoples are missing the point here. One day they will find human bones either inside or alongside dinosaur bones. Or dinosaur bones with teeth marks after a communal feast of the dinosaur prey they hunted and killed for food. There are cave drawings depicting this already but these paleontologist types are blind to all but their own theory and agendas. Early man would have made weapons and traps to get their food. They lived in caves and would of had fire. These science types seem to think that early man were idiots and not skilled hunters

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Peoples are missing the point here. One day they will find human bones either inside or alongside dinosaur bones. Or dinosaur bones with teeth marks after a communal feast of the dinosaur prey they hunted and killed for food. There are cave drawings depicting this already but these paleontologist types are blind to all but their own theory and agendas. Early man would have made weapons and traps to get their food. They lived in caves and would of had fire. These science types seem to think that early man were idiots and not skilled hunters "

They'll find them near the McDonald's double whopper brontoburger wrappers Tom.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Peoples are missing the point here. One day they will find human bones either inside or alongside dinosaur bones. Or dinosaur bones with teeth marks after a communal feast of the dinosaur prey they hunted and killed for food. There are cave drawings depicting this already but these paleontologist types are blind to all but their own theory and agendas. Early man would have made weapons and traps to get their food. They lived in caves and would of had fire. These science types seem to think that early man were idiots and not skilled hunters "

Dinosaurs died out around 65 million years before Tom was walking around with his fire and weapon in hand.

But having said that, you are right in very abstract way. Birds lived on and are considered surviving dinosaurs, so those teeth marks in a KFC chicken leg thrown on pavement sort of meets the criteria above.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment "

I don't think he invented moments too. Seems a little forced

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment

I don't think he invented moments too. Seems a little forced "

Not you again

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment

I don't think he invented moments too. Seems a little forced

Not you again "

What's up Tom?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For a brief minute, I thought you were on about one of my exes.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment

I don't think he invented moments too. Seems a little forced

Not you again

What's up Tom?"

He doesn't like science types

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"They tend to ridicule thories that don't fit their narrow narrative. Remember that when Sir Isaac Newton first invented gravity he was ridiculed.

Invented gravity, did he? What did we do before that moment

I don't think he invented moments too. Seems a little forced

Not you again

What's up Tom?

He doesn't like science types "

Not true...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Peoples are missing the point here. One day they will find human bones either inside or alongside dinosaur bones. Or dinosaur bones with teeth marks after a communal feast of the dinosaur prey they hunted and killed for food. There are cave drawings depicting this already but these paleontologist types are blind to all but their own theory and agendas. Early man would have made weapons and traps to get their food. They lived in caves and would of had fire. These science types seem to think that early man were idiots and not skilled hunters "

These scientists types need look no further than Fab to unearth some idiots!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

What's going on here guys ?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Tom never wasted his time at university but he was offered a fast track to professer.

He turned it down.

For his own reasons..

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden


"Tom never wasted his time at university but he was offered a fast track to professer.

He turned it down.

For his own reasons.."

In which subject?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Tom never wasted his time at university but he was offered a fast track to professer.

He turned it down.

For his own reasons.."

Would love to hear this story. In what universe can you become a professor without a PhD and also when you can't actually spell 'professor'!?

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Tom never wasted his time at university but he was offered a fast track to professer.

He turned it down.

For his own reasons..

In which subject?"

Professor of fora?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Tom never wasted his time at university but he was offered a fast track to professer.

He turned it down.

For his own reasons..

Would love to hear this story. In what universe can you become a professor without a PhD and also when you can't actually spell 'professor'!?"

Tom says those perquisites are just details?

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By *aughty Couple ABCCouple  over a year ago

West Bromwich


"Their are archeological discoveries that have tended to support the Bible and the existence of Jesus.

The Turin Shroud being just one..

No one is doubting the existence of Jesus. In all probability he was around. Was he the son of God is where the debate kicks off. "

My mother believed he was the son of an alien..... That's how come he managed to set the bush on fire (a laser for a finger) and everything else he did

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