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"Title: Tech/team lead Field: financial industry Language: java " Nice
Same here iOS Lead & Financial Industry | |||
"Well before being a full time carer for my daughter I was a Web Developer/Designer" You can still continue as hobby
Keep Learning | |||
"Not software but I’m a self-taught graphic designer "Cool 
Which tools are you using ? | |||
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"Not software but I’m a self-taught graphic designer
Cool
Which tools are you using ?"I use affinity designer atm which seems to be the best for me but also Inkscape for some things and Pixlr for others! I can’t really get on with photoshop | |||
"At work usually plc ladder programs, indramat controllers. Other languages python, kivi, java, I'm learning kotlin at the moment for android, conkyrc, BBC basic. "Fuckkkk python  hate backend lol | |||
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"At work usually plc ladder programs, indramat controllers. Other languages python, kivi, java, I'm learning kotlin at the moment for android, conkyrc, BBC basic. "You are the rare one  | |||
"Graphic designer and website developer. I even built an app using the google widget. It played a fart noise. Genius." Hahah Feature Request: Please add various fart sounds as well | |||
"What's wrong with backend?" It's bloody hard! Plus with frontend you get to see your changes come to life  | |||
"Well before being a full time carer for my daughter I was a Web Developer/Designer You can still continue as hobby
Keep Learning "I still dabble, and I have a couple of ideas for potential projects, but I doubt I will ever have the energy to get back to "optimum developer" knowledge, given how fast things move along | |||
"Well before being a full time carer for my daughter I was a Web Developer/Designer You can still continue as hobby
Keep Learning
I still dabble, and I have a couple of ideas for potential projects, but I doubt I will ever have the energy to get back to "optimum developer" knowledge, given how fast things move along"That's what Stack Overflow is for 
If you can handle the brutality - some of those threads make the virus forums look like a walk in the park! | |||
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"Well before being a full time carer for my daughter I was a Web Developer/Designer You can still continue as hobby
Keep Learning
I still dabble, and I have a couple of ideas for potential projects, but I doubt I will ever have the energy to get back to "optimum developer" knowledge, given how fast things move along
That's what Stack Overflow is for
If you can handle the brutality - some of those threads make the virus forums look like a walk in the park! "Love Stack Overflow! | |||
"Graphic designer and website developer. I even built an app using the google widget. It played a fart noise. Genius. Hahah Feature Request: Please add various fart sounds as well "FartParper 2.0 will add a wide selection of fart sounds, lol | |||
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" Took days of coding, and loads of syntax errors later, it was like “is that it?”." Spent 3 days trying to find a missing semicolon in the early 2000s. Parsers are too kind nowadays  | |||
"Well before being a full time carer for my daughter I was a Web Developer/Designer You can still continue as hobby
Keep Learning
I still dabble, and I have a couple of ideas for potential projects, but I doubt I will ever have the energy to get back to "optimum developer" knowledge, given how fast things move along
That's what Stack Overflow is for
If you can handle the brutality - some of those threads make the virus forums look like a walk in the park!
Love Stack Overflow!"It's where I go when I want to feel really, really dumb  | |||
"Why not: CTO level now, still dev and architecture as needed. Over the years, various: C, C#, Java, JS (with frameworks like Angular, etc), Prolog, LPC, PHP, Perl, F#, Go, VB, Kotlin... I might be showing my age " then need to take career advice from you …. I am 30 with 6 years of Mobile App Development experience, working for one of top fintech company. But i am missing the startup culture & fast pace development… Feeling like got stuck in monotonous corporate environment but at the same time I don’t have any kind of stress from work side. | |||
" Took days of coding, and loads of syntax errors later, it was like “is that it?”. Spent 3 days trying to find a missing semicolon in the early 2000s. Parsers are too kind nowadays "Swear it's better than sex when you finally get it and your program starts running though | |||
"What's wrong with backend? It's bloody hard! Plus with frontend you get to see your changes come to life "It's not that hard - and the FE usually needs a BE. The backend is fine without a front-end. | |||
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"Throw in a bit of RPG, Fortran and Pascal for good measure. I remember as a kid following a BASIC program in a magazine on my C64. Took days of coding, and loads of syntax errors later, it was like “is that it?”. PERL whilst old is pretty good from the applications I’ve used. Though using a few that are written in Ruby and hold up well. A lot of stuff I’m doing at the moment is API integrations." Before starting iOS App Development i was going toward PERL because hell of contracts job was available 5 years ago. But this iPhone made me fall in love with Objective-C & Swift. Now for backend API i am learning Node.js. Hopefully soon will become Full Stack Mobile Developer | |||
"What's wrong with backend? It's bloody hard! Plus with frontend you get to see your changes come to life
It's not that hard - and the FE usually needs a BE. The backend is fine without a front-end. "I've done small creative projects without a backend before and it's worked just fine. Not for work though. I've done full stack professionally and really struggled with things like API integration and database management. Now I get other people to do those things for me  | |||
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"What's wrong with backend? It's bloody hard! Plus with frontend you get to see your changes come to life
It's not that hard - and the FE usually needs a BE. The backend is fine without a front-end. "Trying my best to deploy one node.js server with MySQl database… next will go towards MongoDB. | |||
"Why not: CTO level now, still dev and architecture as needed. Over the years, various: C, C#, Java, JS (with frameworks like Angular, etc), Prolog, LPC, PHP, Perl, F#, Go, VB, Kotlin... I might be showing my age "LOL, bless. You're a youngster unless you have fibbed about your age on your profile. I'll throw in some Fortran, algol, Pascal, simula, various assembly languages, visual basic 6, VBA, XML/xslt. | |||
"Yep Own a company with outsourced staff across major UK clients, one of which is based in Leeds hence me splitting my time" When shall i send my CV
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"What's wrong with backend? It's bloody hard! Plus with frontend you get to see your changes come to life
It's not that hard - and the FE usually needs a BE. The backend is fine without a front-end.
I've done small creative projects without a backend before and it's worked just fine."Where does it get it's data from? | |||
" then need to take career advice from you …. I am 30 with 6 years of Mobile App Development experience, working for one of top fintech company. But i am missing the startup culture & fast pace development… Feeling like got stuck in monotonous corporate environment but at the same time I don’t have any kind of stress from work side."You have to choose, sadly. Avoid pure start-ups, too many fail. Only join a scale up or bigger. Only join growing companies, growing means more opportunity for advancement. Always ask. You won't get given promotions. Work towards agreed goals. Stay in fintech. Growing fast and better pay than other industries. Choose between maxing out along the tech path (e.g. architect or principle) or pushing through the management and business path (people are hard!). Finally, when pretty senior, go consult and earn 2x-4x. | |||
"I've been struggling to find competent COBOL developers. Demand and availability are at a mismatch " Get the COBOL converted to Java. | |||
"I've been struggling to find competent COBOL developers. Demand and availability are at a mismatch Get the COBOL converted to Java. "Not my decision to make alas | |||
"What's wrong with backend? It's bloody hard! Plus with frontend you get to see your changes come to life
It's not that hard - and the FE usually needs a BE. The backend is fine without a front-end.
I've done small creative projects without a backend before and it's worked just fine.
Where does it get it's data from?"It doesn't... Just static websites and simple games that don't store data. | |||
"Why not: CTO level now, still dev and architecture as needed. Over the years, various: C, C#, Java, JS (with frameworks like Angular, etc), Prolog, LPC, PHP, Perl, F#, Go, VB, Kotlin... I might be showing my age
LOL, bless. You're a youngster unless you have fibbed about your age on your profile.
I'll throw in some Fortran, algol, Pascal, simula, various assembly languages, visual basic 6, VBA, XML/xslt."VBA, VB6, XSLT, Delphi, yes. But I always volunteered to maintain and migrate older systems. Hence a wide range of languages. I'm pushing 40, it feels old when you've mostly been in companies staffed by 20-somethings, startups and scaleups  | |||
"Why not: CTO level now, still dev and architecture as needed. Over the years, various: C, C#, Java, JS (with frameworks like Angular, etc), Prolog, LPC, PHP, Perl, F#, Go, VB, Kotlin... I might be showing my age
LOL, bless. You're a youngster unless you have fibbed about your age on your profile.
I'll throw in some Fortran, algol, Pascal, simula, various assembly languages, visual basic 6, VBA, XML/xslt.
VBA, VB6, XSLT, Delphi, yes.
But I always volunteered to maintain and migrate older systems. Hence a wide range of languages.
I'm pushing 40, it feels old when you've mostly been in companies staffed by 20-somethings, startups and scaleups "Try being in your 60s. | |||
"I've been struggling to find competent COBOL developers. Demand and availability are at a mismatch " Aah  Its also a rare one.
We were taking interviews for Android Developer it took us 3 months to find a good one. Nowadays many people claim to be a developer and they can’t answer a basic questions like RESTApi etc its a very tuff task to find the right one. | |||
"Not software but I’m a self-taught graphic designer
Cool
Which tools are you using ?
I use affinity designer atm which seems to be the best for me but also Inkscape for some things and Pixlr for others! I can’t really get on with photoshop "Me too, I've been with Affinity since their pre-beta days and have all 3 apps, in fact I've been using their legacy products since 1996. Good ol' Serif/Serif Labs. I am not an artist, just a tracer. | |||
"I've been struggling to find competent COBOL developers. Demand and availability are at a mismatch Get the COBOL converted to Java.
Not my decision to make alas"Tried to learn COBOL for the £££ about a decade ago, as most finance mainframes use it and...well...people retire and die. Couldn't do it. Too procedural. | |||
" then need to take career advice from you …. I am 30 with 6 years of Mobile App Development experience, working for one of top fintech company. But i am missing the startup culture & fast pace development… Feeling like got stuck in monotonous corporate environment but at the same time I don’t have any kind of stress from work side.
You have to choose, sadly.
Avoid pure start-ups, too many fail. Only join a scale up or bigger.
Only join growing companies, growing means more opportunity for advancement.
Always ask. You won't get given promotions. Work towards agreed goals.
Stay in fintech. Growing fast and better pay than other industries.
Choose between maxing out along the tech path (e.g. architect or principle) or pushing through the management and business path (people are hard!).
Finally, when pretty senior, go consult and earn 2x-4x."Noted your points & Thanks for the info. | |||
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"I was wondering if we have got techie folks on FabSwingers or not. If you reading this let me know which field & programming language do you guys currently use in your profession. About Me: Title:: iOS (iPhone) App Developer Language:: Swift & SwiftUI " Christ. My list would sizeable given I (officially) started on Visual Basic and still dabble a little now. I mainly focus on security nowadays although I do custom scripts for hardware. C | |||
"In a former life, or rather when I first started work, I used to code (stuff for phone networks, etc). Didn't know many languages, but most obscure was ADA. That's what you get for spending a year of your studies in France I guess!!
IS"ADA as in the language used in the defence industry? Not sure it's that obscure. | |||
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"I just sell it "What do you sell? | |||
"I just sell it
What do you sell?"Software programmes and maintenance | |||
"I was wondering if we have got techie folks on FabSwingers or not. If you reading this let me know which field & programming language do you guys currently use in your profession. About Me: Title:: iOS (iPhone) App Developer Language:: Swift & SwiftUI Christ. My list would sizeable given I (officially) started on Visual Basic and still dabble a little now. I mainly focus on security nowadays although I do custom scripts for hardware. C" I always wanted to learn embedded applications development but lack electrical knowledge  | |||
"In a former life, or rather when I first started work, I used to code (stuff for phone networks, etc). Didn't know many languages, but most obscure was ADA. That's what you get for spending a year of your studies in France I guess!!
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ADA as in the language used in the defence industry? Not sure it's that obscure."I always remember asking my lecturer why we couldn't just do a certain exercise in C, because it was easier. His reply was, "If you want to programme like a pig, use C, otherwise ...". I was mortified. C was my favourite language. Was the first year at Uni to learn C. Previous years learnt Pascal. IS | |||
"I just sell it
What do you sell?
Software programmes and maintenance "And professional services? | |||
"In a former life, or rather when I first started work, I used to code (stuff for phone networks, etc). Didn't know many languages, but most obscure was ADA. That's what you get for spending a year of your studies in France I guess!!
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ADA as in the language used in the defence industry? Not sure it's that obscure.
I always remember asking my lecturer why we couldn't just do a certain exercise in C, because it was easier. His reply was, "If you want to programme like a pig, use C, otherwise ...".
I was mortified. C was my favourite language. Was the first year at Uni to learn C. Previous years learnt Pascal.
IS "I think your lecturer was a bit harsh. I used to write in C. It's ok, and quite popular, but I prefer Java. | |||
"What's wrong with backend? It's bloody hard! Plus with frontend you get to see your changes come to life
It's not that hard - and the FE usually needs a BE. The backend is fine without a front-end.
I've done small creative projects without a backend before and it's worked just fine. Not for work though. I've done full stack professionally and really struggled with things like API integration and database management.
Now I get other people to do those things for me "Oh you are missing out on all the fun! Spending days trying to get APIs to work and pulling strings of nonsense from a database is better than sex!
Sorry, i just laughed out loud at that one. | |||
"What's wrong with backend? It's bloody hard! Plus with frontend you get to see your changes come to life
It's not that hard - and the FE usually needs a BE. The backend is fine without a front-end.
I've done small creative projects without a backend before and it's worked just fine. Not for work though. I've done full stack professionally and really struggled with things like API integration and database management.
Now I get other people to do those things for me
Oh you are missing out on all the fun! Spending days trying to get APIs to work and pulling strings of nonsense from a database is better than sex!
Sorry, i just laughed out loud at that one. "Do you mean getting the logic to work or getting the backend to provide the data once the logic is working? | |||
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"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google." Yeah, not sure what we did before Google and sites like stackoverflow. | |||
"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google. Yeah, not sure what we did before Google and sites like stackoverflow." Drank heavier. C | |||
"I just sell it
What do you sell?
Software programmes and maintenance
And professional services?"Training/consultant days.. If that's what you call professional services. I offer no services | |||
"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google. Yeah, not sure what we did before Google and sites like stackoverflow." made shittier code? I honestly dunno how anything got done LOL | |||
"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google. Yeah, not sure what we did before Google and sites like stackoverflow. made shittier code? I honestly dunno how anything got done LOL" Coding is getting easier i have to say, take node red js, you just drag and drop maybe a bit of java in a fuction block, gui with the dashboard. | |||
"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google. Yeah, not sure what we did before Google and sites like stackoverflow. made shittier code? I honestly dunno how anything got done LOL Coding is getting easier i have to say, take node red js, you just drag and drop maybe a bit of java in a fuction block, gui with the dashboard. "I definately agree for run of the mill day to day development, i think innovation is still as hard as it ever was though | |||
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"I was wondering if we have got techie folks on FabSwingers or not. If you reading this let me know which field & programming language do you guys currently use in your profession. About Me: Title:: iOS (iPhone) App Developer Language:: Swift & SwiftUI " Nice!! I want to build a MVP can you advise what tools I can use for this ? Long time ago I was .net c# web developer, I attended the very first Pubcon at Ciittie of York pub , I was a really bad coder but you make a lot of easy money back then harvesting, cloaking and pushing content for clicks to the guys who sold ads | |||
"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google. Yeah, not sure what we did before Google and sites like stackoverflow. made shittier code? I honestly dunno how anything got done LOL Coding is getting easier i have to say, take node red js, you just drag and drop maybe a bit of java in a fuction block, gui with the dashboard.
I definately agree for run of the mill day to day development, i think innovation is still as hard as it ever was though"If it’s that easy why do decent Node/Angular/React developers cost £90K ? | |||
"Why not: CTO level now, still dev and architecture as needed. Over the years, various: C, C#, Java, JS (with frameworks like Angular, etc), Prolog, LPC, PHP, Perl, F#, Go, VB, Kotlin... I might be showing my age Cut my teeth on Fortran and Cobol. Made a good few Bob on Y2K. Happy days " | |||
"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google. Yeah, not sure what we did before Google and sites like stackoverflow. made shittier code? I honestly dunno how anything got done LOL Coding is getting easier i have to say, take node red js, you just drag and drop maybe a bit of java in a fuction block, gui with the dashboard.
I definately agree for run of the mill day to day development, i think innovation is still as hard as it ever was though
If it’s that easy why do decent Node/Angular/React developers cost £90K ?
"No-one said easy, the word was easier, so not as hard as it used to be, you know when 2 decades ago similar developers would be earning 6 digits before you added inflation | |||
"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google. Yeah, not sure what we did before Google and sites like stackoverflow. made shittier code? I honestly dunno how anything got done LOL Coding is getting easier i have to say, take node red js, you just drag and drop maybe a bit of java in a fuction block, gui with the dashboard.
I definately agree for run of the mill day to day development, i think innovation is still as hard as it ever was though
If it’s that easy why do decent Node/Angular/React developers cost £90K ?
No-one said easy, the word was easier, so not as hard as it used to be, you know when 2 decades ago similar developers would be earning 6 digits before you added inflation"
I think it’s a different skillset , knowing and using those libraries etc
Maybe , rates do seem to have crept up though from like 60-70 a few years ago to touching 6 figures basic , I think in early 2000’s I was making about 35-40 it just wasn’t enough so I quit ! Now I have to buy those developers at 90k and they get huge benefits I’m thinking it’s a bad life just sit at home coding making 100-150 with bonus etc | |||
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"I often joked with colleagues, the most important skill for any developer is how to use google." You're not wrong! C# | |||
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" Took days of coding, and loads of syntax errors later, it was like “is that it?”. Spent 3 days trying to find a missing semicolon in the early 2000s. Parsers are too kind nowadays
Swear it's better than sex when you finally get it and your program starts running though "It genuinely was - and all you want to do is go again and fix your mates code | |||
"In a former life, or rather when I first started work, I used to code (stuff for phone networks, etc). Didn't know many languages, but most obscure was ADA. That's what you get for spending a year of your studies in France I guess!!
IS
ADA as in the language used in the defence industry? Not sure it's that obscure.
I always remember asking my lecturer why we couldn't just do a certain exercise in C, because it was easier. His reply was, "If you want to programme like a pig, use C, otherwise ...".
I was mortified. C was my favourite language. Was the first year at Uni to learn C. Previous years learnt Pascal.
IS
I think your lecturer was a bit harsh. I used to write in C. It's ok, and quite popular, but I prefer Java."ADA and PASCAL - learnt both while at uni. Programme like a pig - use C. Strange and I agree, C is classic | |||
" Took days of coding, and loads of syntax errors later, it was like “is that it?”. Spent 3 days trying to find a missing semicolon in the early 2000s. Parsers are too kind nowadays
Swear it's better than sex when you finally get it and your program starts running though
It genuinely was - and all you want to do is go again and fix your mates code "You did development AND had mates? | |||
" Took days of coding, and loads of syntax errors later, it was like “is that it?”. Spent 3 days trying to find a missing semicolon in the early 2000s. Parsers are too kind nowadays
Swear it's better than sex when you finally get it and your program starts running though
It genuinely was - and all you want to do is go again and fix your mates code
You did development AND had mates? "I was a god . Someone had to tell the client that their fucking requirements were wrong - that made me famous | |||
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)) will talk your ears off about BDD given the chance | |||
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"I've been struggling to find competent COBOL developers. Demand and availability are at a mismatch " When I was learning .NET a soon to retire colleague offered to teach me COBOL and I said, nah, I'm wanting to learn the new stuff. Always regretted that and the possibility of lucrative contracting opportunities lol | |||
"At work usually plc ladder programs, indramat controllers. Other languages python, kivi, java, I'm learning kotlin at the moment for android, conkyrc, BBC basic. "Now retired . Spent nearly all working life after apprenticeship in automation. Programming , commissioning and design programs. Plus robots mostly in car industry. | |||
