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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Solidarity to everyone on here and hopefully this helps some people.

Preferences: height, body shape/type, age, tattoos, hairy, well endowed etc

Racism examples: Black only /No Asians

Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races: not racist.

Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist.

Attraction is not innate, it is learned, which is why Racism either way in sexual attraction is not a preference.

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Where did you get those personal opinion facts from?

Wait? Leaving before ,…and not coming bock?

Can I change this to a FAF? Thread then?

FAF anyone?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Preferences based on race is racism in my opinion…I’ve yet to see anyone on here say they won’t meet certain races. I hope I never do.

I’ve no idea what point you’re trying to prove. Just joining in

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By *ealitybitesMan over a year ago

Belfast

Was there a BOGOF deal on grenades somewhere this morning?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

lost me totally

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Solidarity to everyone on here and hopefully this helps some people.

Preferences: height, body shape/type, age, tattoos, hairy, well endowed etc

Racism examples: Black only /No Asians

Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races: not racist.

Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist.

Attraction is not innate, it is learned, which is why Racism either way in sexual attraction is not a preference.

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x"

The most accurate and factual think you've written there is 'I think'.

Nobody gets to dictate whether someone has a preference or not except themselves.

Sounds distinctly like anger based on rejection to me.........

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Zzzz zzzz (tired argument)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Zzzz zzzz (tired argument)"
damn it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Solidarity to everyone on here and hopefully this helps some people.

Preferences: height, body shape/type, age, tattoos, hairy, well endowed etc

Racism examples: Black only /No Asians

Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races: not racist.

Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist.

Attraction is not innate, it is learned, which is why Racism either way in sexual attraction is not a preference.

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x"

I’ve read this about 3 times over & still not got a clue what you mean or trying to get at. Could you give some clarification to what you actually mean please OP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Zzzzoom zzzzoom (tyred argument)"

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck? "

I actually somewhat agree

There’s a difference between

“We prefer to meet Caucasian men”

And

“No blacks”

I look at it as the same thing where we go “I like slim women” is fine, “no fatties” isn’t

Dunno if I’m right here though, but it kinda makes sense in my head

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By *ealitybitesMan over a year ago

Belfast

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x"

I think you missed and hit your thumb

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

I actually somewhat agree

There’s a difference between

“We prefer to meet Caucasian men”

And

“No blacks”

I look at it as the same thing where we go “I like slim women” is fine, “no fatties” isn’t

Dunno if I’m right here though, but it kinda makes sense in my head "

I don't think that's what the OP was saying... Or maybe I misunderstood. I got:

"I only like people from the same race as me" = not racist.

"I only like people who are NOT the same race as me" = racist.

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By *ou only live onceMan over a year ago

London

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck? "

Ah, I see where you've gone wrong. You're looking for logic in the OP's post, where there is none.

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Jesus wept! These forums today!

I’m so glad I just prefer to meet people I click with and find attractive.

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By *ice But Very NaughtyCouple over a year ago

Swansea

"Attraction is not inate - it's learned"

Hmm there are a number of gay conversion therapy retreats that employ people with that attitude.

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

I actually somewhat agree

There’s a difference between

“We prefer to meet Caucasian men”

And

“No blacks”

I look at it as the same thing where we go “I like slim women” is fine, “no fatties” isn’t

Dunno if I’m right here though, but it kinda makes sense in my head

I don't think that's what the OP was saying... Or maybe I misunderstood. I got:

"I only like people from the same race as me" = not racist.

"I only like people who are NOT the same race as me" = racist. "

Actually after rereading, yeah I’m lost

I might be racist

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By *haron StonerTV/TS over a year ago

Haywards Heath

Who cares, turn off the lights and let's fuck!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

Ah, I see where you've gone wrong. You're looking for logic in the OP's post, where there is none."

Oh, silly me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist. "

So a white women that wants to fuck me is racist

I am totally fucking lost here

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By *ou only live onceMan over a year ago

London

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

Ah, I see where you've gone wrong. You're looking for logic in the OP's post, where there is none.

Oh, silly me

There's so much to unpack in the OP's opener, but I'm far too tired!

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"Jesus wept! These forums today!

I’m so glad I just prefer to meet people I click with and find attractive. "

That seems too easy. I'd rather stick with the logic of the OP's facts.

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Jesus wept! These forums today!

I’m so glad I just prefer to meet people I click with and find attractive.

That seems too easy. I'd rather stick with the logic of the OP's facts."

. Don’t you be doing an ageist thread!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This man has to much time on his hands!! As I can see no verifications yet, to much time!!!!!

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"Jesus wept! These forums today!

I’m so glad I just prefer to meet people I click with and find attractive.

That seems too easy. I'd rather stick with the logic of the OP's facts.

. Don’t you be doing an ageist thread! "

Oh oh oh! A challenge.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I fail to see where this will ’ help’ me and I’m no zoologist but attraction is not learned, attraction is developed from thousands of years of evolution where by the tall caveman was considered more attractive as he could theoretically see predators and food in the tall grass sooner, it’s in our dna and if it wasn’t we would not have made it as a species, the problem with the word attraction nowadays is we have to not only fit that physical mould most people would also like someone with Brains too, the reason why that is attractive is because genetically a more intelligent person is less likely to fuck things up statistically speaking, I’ve probably just quoted Darwinian theory in the most crude manner but you get the idea ….

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Jesus wept! These forums today!

I’m so glad I just prefer to meet people I click with and find attractive.

That seems too easy. I'd rather stick with the logic of the OP's facts.

. Don’t you be doing an ageist thread!

Oh oh oh! A challenge.

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

If op isn't actually interested in discussion, this is my peak engagement.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x"

To be fair I don't think anyone's defensive, everyone's just confused as fuck. Like we've all woken up in an empty room without any memory of who we are and how we've got here.

In any case I've spent far too much of my lunch break trying to decipher this mess

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By *atermelodyMan over a year ago

Northampton

I think this guy is hurt because he's seeing too many white women with a preference for BBC

Colour preference is racist but the problem comes when people try to justify why they don't meet certain races.

Example -

"We don't meet Asians because we met an Asian guy one time and he was rude".

So if you met a white male next and they were rude would you then stop swinging all together?

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

I actually somewhat agree

There’s a difference between

“We prefer to meet Caucasian men”

And

“No blacks”

I look at it as the same thing where we go “I like slim women” is fine, “no fatties” isn’t

Dunno if I’m right here though, but it kinda makes sense in my head "

Agree it's all about not being shit to one another.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What a load of shite.

I’m mixed race and have never slept with another mixed race person so does that make me racist?

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By *atricia ParnelWoman over a year ago

In a town full of colours

Good to know your thoughts OP

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By *ady CurvaceousWoman over a year ago

Kent

"Solidarity to everyone on here and hopefully this helps some people.

Preferences: height, body shape/type, age, tattoos, hairy, well endowed etc

Racism examples: Black only /No Asians

Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races: not racist.

Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist.

Attraction is not innate, it is learned, which is why Racism either way in sexual attraction is not a preference.

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x"

Never read so much bollocks in all my life.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

What a confusing OP.

To me it's just:

If you don't find people of a particular ethnicity attractive but have no notable reason for that, you're probably not racist.

If you don't find people of a particular ethnicity attractive because you believe negative stereotypes about that ethnicity, you probably are racist.

Unfortunately a lot of people when this topic comes up insist that everyone is in the first ground and no one in the second group exists. Which is naive at best.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Forgot to add, it's better that people like that are open and honest about it on their profiles so that they can be avoided/approached rather than it being hidden.

Cheers x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm just so glad I'm happy with my own definitions for these things already, as I don't agree with any of it. And even though I think mine are "better", there's no way I'd spell them out and say they're right for you so get learning...

Obligatory "who likes cake" topic swerve...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What the actual fuck???

Is it a full moon tonight or something??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What the actual fuck???

Is it a full moon tonight or something?? "

No idea, it’s still daytime

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By *elvet RopeMan over a year ago

by the big field

As crocks of shit go, this one is most definitely catering sized

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Forgot to add, it's better that people like that are open and honest about it on their profiles so that they can be avoided/approached rather than it being hidden.

Cheers x"

Honest about what exactly? So if I put on mine I’m open to meet anyone with a pulse for giggles and banter is that specific enough or do I need to put must be able to suck a golf ball through a hosepipe whilst wearing heels whilst on on a running machine (insert wildest most random fantasy here folks) I’m not sure, either way you have used all my lunch break

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By *ormorantMan over a year ago

Lincolnshire

Is this based on a study by the University of Sydney with a sample group of One.

Utter horse shit.

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Mayfair

Who remembers the good old days when I used to benign but exciting threads about shoes, handbags, jewellery, cosmetics and other metrosexual paraphernalia?

No? Fair enough. 'must be just me then.

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By *arker secrets 321Man over a year ago

West Bromwich

Have 2 say read ops post few times and my conclusion

Thats why u should never take drugs x

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By *ed VoluptaWoman over a year ago

Wirral.

For the love of God, will someone just start a "boing" thread for me?!

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Mayfair

"For the love of God, will someone just start a "Boeing" thread for me?!

•

What have got against Airbus?

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By *sBlueWoman over a year ago

Up North

My head hurts

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By *valanche1001Man over a year ago

Leeds

"Forgot to add, it's better that people like that are open and honest about it on their profiles so that they can be avoided/approached rather than it being hidden.

Cheers x"

Or just post a thread that ensures you are avoided forevermore and ideally placed on a remote island with no internet connection.

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By *awpleasureMan over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield

BBC only no whites is a preference not racism.

In other news car parts will have to have their names changed from master cylinders and s lave cylinders as somebody got offended in Kwik fit.

(I've even had to amend the word as it's deemed an offensive word on here even though it's a car part or was) I'm confusing myself!!

I'd be more offended by the prices Kwik fit charge than the name of the parts they sell.

When is Manchester going to change its name. Women, trans and non binary people live there too. Disgusting. I'm offended on their behalf.

When are we having the MOWOs? Anyone?

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By *JstarsoloWoman over a year ago

Wombwell, Barnsley

"I'm just so glad I'm happy with my own definitions for these things already, as I don't agree with any of it. And even though I think mine are "better", there's no way I'd spell them out and say they're right for you so get learning...

Obligatory "who likes cake" topic swerve..."

I like cake. No idea what message this post is trying to send, badly I might add. Let's eat cake!

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By *sBlueWoman over a year ago

Up North

Obligatory "who likes cake" topic swerve...

I like cake. No idea what message this post is trying to send, badly I might add. Let's eat cake! "

Victoria sponge for me please

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By *valanche1001Man over a year ago

Leeds

Obligatory "who likes cake" topic swerve...

I like cake. No idea what message this post is trying to send, badly I might add. Let's eat cake!

Victoria sponge for me please "

just to take it controversial again - Jaffa Cake

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Mayfair

{thread closed due to controversial 'cake' selection}

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By *ormorantMan over a year ago

Lincolnshire

Are oat cakes cake..??

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By *lynJMan over a year ago

Morden

"For the love of God, will someone just start a "Boeing" thread for me?!

•

What have got against Airbus?"

Here you go:

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1322389

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By *sBlueWoman over a year ago

Up North

"Are oat cakes cake..??"

Are they not a biscuit?

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By *imi_RougeWoman over a year ago

Portsmouth

Yawn...

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By *valanche1001Man over a year ago

Leeds

"Are oat cakes cake..??

Are they not a biscuit?"

Oh my, you can no longer go anywhere near the midlands

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By *ormorantMan over a year ago

Lincolnshire

"Are oat cakes cake..??

Are they not a biscuit?"

Or a cracker…

How about Kendall Mint Cake.??

Puzzled..

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple over a year ago

Coventry

""Attraction is not inate - it's learned"

Hmm there are a number of gay conversion therapy retreats that employ people with that attitude.

Mr"

I'm no expert on the level of what is innate Vs learned. But personally say for arguments sake homosexually was learnt. I don't see how it makes it any less valid or less acceptable? Or why it's is right to try and deprogram people from the core sexuality they have grown into. Whatever the origins of sexuality it is deeply part of you. It's fine to explore it origins but it's not ok for anyone to say they're not ok or chastise you for your core sexuality.

Personally when it comes to attraction I believe there's elements of both that forms our preferences. I definitely don't believe that attraction is all organic and preprogrammed.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple over a year ago

Coventry

Rule number one no one has to sleep with anyone they don't want to.

Naturally people can be disappointed because someone doesn't want them due to a feature they can't change.

For my next point first let's discard preferences based on overt racial prejudice, that just wrong. Hopefully they don't exist on here. But I think we need to be careful when throwing around judgment in an environment of diverse preferences, kink and taboo such as fab. After all preferences, taboo and kink are often interwoven in the demain of the problematic. Including racial preference or indeed racial fetish.

I think most with a racial preference will say Im not prejudice and I don't hate other races, Im just attracted to who I'm attracted to. They may indeed not harbor conscious prejudice or hate. However it's important to recognise a lot of our preference and kinks can be very deeply formed under the skin from a very young age. They may well be subconsciously formed by environment, exposure to prejudice and stereotypes. This is very much the same for the formulation of other sexual desires and kinks. So you may not be racist as such but I think it's important to recognise racial preference maybe influenced by a prejudice environment. In some cases actual life experiences and trauma can effect people's preferences. This can be for many attributes but can include race. If it's triggering to past experience (especially in the absence of positive experience) some people can be avoidant to people who resemble attributes of a previous perpetrator of their trauma. This may be unfair but is a natural response. It's something the individual probably would be open about but something that affects their preferences non the less.

So I wouldn't go as far as to say racial preference is racism (all though in a very literal technical scene it is). Just to say I believe it often has origin in exposure to prejudice, norms and experience rather than something completely innate.

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By *hoirCouple over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

"Solidarity to everyone on here and hopefully this helps some people.

Preferences: height, body shape/type, age, tattoos, hairy, well endowed etc

Racism examples: Black only /No Asians

Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races: not racist.

Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist.

Attraction is not innate, it is learned, which is why Racism either way in sexual attraction is not a preference.

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x"

Well...

Racism is the belief you are superior based on heritage and/or skin colour. The rest isn't racist. Ever.

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By *rettyflamingoCouple over a year ago

Where the flamboyance of flamingos live

""Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist. "

So a white women that wants to fuck me is racist

I am totally fucking lost here"

White woman saying yes please

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By *oo..Woman over a year ago

Boo's World

What a load of twaddle...... People can like what they like at the end of the day without being labelled as a racist!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Attraction is not inate - it's learned"

Hmm there are a number of gay conversion therapy retreats that employ people with that attitude.

Mr"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Spouting out lot of bullshit and patting yourself on the back saying "it hits nail on the head" doesn't sound great.

Racism is judging an individual character to be bad because of their race.

Being not physically attracted to someone doesn't imply that they are judging their character. Some people are just not attracted to certain races physically. In the end, it's their body. They have all the rights to choose who they have sex with. It's none of anyone else's business.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Update - Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races is also most definitely Racist, didn't mean to write "not" in the previous post, my bad. Basically if it involves race, it's racist, good rule of thumb.

Just got back from a lovely meet too, so I'm sure that'll make you guys even happier!

night night xx

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Mayfair

"Just got back from a lovely meet too, so I'm sure that'll make you guys even happier!

night nightxx"

•

We're ecstatic. I hope your date enjoyed himself immensely.

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By *hoirCouple over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

"Update - Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races is also most definitely Racist, didn't mean to write "not" in the previous post, my bad. Basically if it involves race, it's racist, good rule of thumb.

Absolute twaddle.

By your reckoning, you are racist as you played the race card. You involved race after all.

I had to check as well but you are preaching from the position of alleged privilege so your view doesn't matter over mine, given my heritage is mixed Palestinian.

Sit down.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just got back from a lovely meet too, so I'm sure that'll make you guys even happier!

night night xx"

Judging by some of your threads, you seem like a very complicated individual OP. I hope you find peace xx

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By *hoirCouple over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

Judging by some of your threads, you seem like a very complicated individual OP. I hope you find peace xx "

He does seem haunted. Quite a few of 'the new lot' do though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just got back from a lovely meet too, so I'm sure that'll make you guys even happier!

night night xx"

Will look forward to reading the verification

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Nah. People may have their preferences driven by racism but you cannot conclude that they have OP.

You cam rightly or wrongly make assumptions in your own mind but keep them there.

If you make such claims otherwise, you are just causing unnecessary unrest in the forum. That's not really in the sites or any ones interest.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Spouting out lot of bullshit and patting yourself on the back saying "it hits nail on the head" doesn't sound great.

Racism is judging an individual character to be bad because of their race.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wtf have I woken up to here , a persons preference is a persons preference and has nothink to do with race , only attraction, confused.com here

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By *ob rodMan over a year ago

lancaster

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Solidarity to everyone on here and hopefully this helps some people.

Preferences: height, body shape/type, age, tattoos, hairy, well endowed etc

Racism examples: Black only /No Asians

Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races: not racist.

Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist.

Attraction is not innate, it is learned, which is why Racism either way in sexual attraction is not a preference.

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x"

Aye you definitely hit the nail on the head there pal , or did you mean you hit the nail with your head . then spouted that pish because you were a little dazed ?

No one can tell anyone what is the correct way to do things , just be respectful and genuine and you won't go far wrong

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By *lynJMan over a year ago

Morden

Just got back from a lovely meet too, so I'm sure that'll make you guys even happier!

night night xx"

By extension, if someone prefers sex only with the opposite sex or only with the same sex does that make them guilty of sex discrimination and sexism?

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By *ustyMilfxxxCouple over a year ago

Swansea

That is bizarre !

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By *lynJMan over a year ago

Morden

"That is bizarre !"

Which bit, or all of itm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But Finkle is Einhorn!!

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By *ustyMilfxxxCouple over a year ago

Swansea

You put across an interesting opinion.

However, I believe you are getting a little mixed up with the definition of racism.

Racism is a form of discrimination, such as sexism , ageism ( there are a quite a few!)

Discrimination is about a person being treated unfairly based on their age, sex, ethnicity.

Your theory should in this case apply to age and sex and age. If a gay guy is only looking for men, then he is being sexist?? If you prefer older or younger adults then this is ageist??

Let’s be honest, this is a swinging site where people often ( if the stars align) meet for sex.

Your preference, and what you find attractive is

Your own thing. Be it gender, size, age or skin colour..

That is not discriminatory unless you make derogatory comments…

It seems like there a lot of posts like this on here focusing on race.

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By *ustyMilfxxxCouple over a year ago

Swansea

The op post is bizarre!

I’m a bit DuPont and responded to the wrong post!

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By *ustyMilfxxxCouple over a year ago

Swansea

"The op post is bizarre!

I’m a bit DuPont and responded to the wrong post!"

That was meant to say dippy but fab thought DuPont would sound better!!

Thanks fab I look like a twat now haha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont consider preferences racist.

However a question..

If you were talking to someone engaging in conversation, you were both very interested in meeting but then the other person didn't realise you were Asian and once you mention it they completely blank you and block you. Would you consider this racist?

This happened to me when I was on as male on this site twice when. Just want to hear people's opinions.

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By *ebjonnsonMan over a year ago

Maldon

"I dont consider preferences racist.

However a question..

This happened to me when I was on as male on this site twice when. Just want to hear people's opinions.

I’d put that down as ‘their loss’!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont consider preferences racist.

However a question..

This happened to me when I was on as male on this site twice when. Just want to hear people's opinions.

I’d put that down as ‘their loss’! "

Lol thanks I was on as a male then.

I get all the racists wanting me now lol amazing what a pair of French knickers and heels can do

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS over a year ago

chichester

I take it the OP is an imbecile .. glad we sorted that then and can move on with the day

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By *aydeeMan over a year ago

South East

Racism is like d*unkenness. Ever seen a d*unkard accepting s(he's) d*unk? The openly racist ones aren't the problem with our society. You know them so you exclude them from your life. The real problem are closet racists who live in denial yet are constantly exposed by their actions and comments. It is difficult to change who you are without accepting what you are. It is analogous to drug addiction. Come to terms with it and society will help you excavate the cancer. Unfortunately we breathe the same air which is free and does not discriminate.

"Preferences based on race is racism in my opinion…I’ve yet to see anyone on here say they won’t meet certain races. I hope I never do.

I’ve no idea what point you’re trying to prove. Just joining in

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

I actually somewhat agree

There’s a difference between

“We prefer to meet Caucasian men”

And

“No blacks”

I look at it as the same thing where we go “I like slim women” is fine, “no fatties” isn’t

Dunno if I’m right here though, but it kinda makes sense in my head "
..it doesnt make sense. Your version. Size of body has nothing to do with ,race,religion and skin colour!

To disregard others based upon their skin colour is a full on hate of thier ID of their whole being!!

We back on this again coz its still here alive daily!! It wont ever go away coz those whom inpose it upon others ,dont see where they lack empathy and balance other's just how they are beyond the " skin tone,nose shape etc etc.

All is a mind conditioning and taught at home,and the wider world!

" it wont be fixed ever" ..

Peace onto all fabber, glad tidings to all .

Remember it all goes back in that small box!

What does that mean?? Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x

I think you missed and hit your thumb"

Get the ice pack,and plaster quik!

Dirted the place with ketchup!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why would you lot above bring this crappy and negative vibed thread back into full view?

Some threads should stay dead

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Jesus wept! These forums today!

I’m so glad I just prefer to meet people I click with and find attractive. "

Its not that simple really!

Some will get on with you coz the fancey level. They get along to searve the purpose!

Scratch abit deeper you will get views. That will conflict with yours.

But the truth will only win. From a factual truthful clear transparent standpoint!

Keep hàppy fabbing all.

It all will go back in the box,really it will!

Stand for what? Fall for anything!

Be honest! The most fearfull struggle anyone could èver have in their life ever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Too early for this old bollocks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

I actually somewhat agree

There’s a difference between

“We prefer to meet Caucasian men”

And

“No blacks”

I look at it as the same thing where we go “I like slim women” is fine, “no fatties” isn’t

Dunno if I’m right here though, but it kinda makes sense in my head

I don't think that's what the OP was saying... Or maybe I misunderstood. I got:

"I only like people from the same race as me" = not racist.

"I only like people who are NOT the same race as me" = racist.

Actually after rereading, yeah I’m lost

I might be racist

Towards yourself! Lol look in the mirror¡ some dont and wont!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who searched for racism just to bring this back from the dead?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

I actually somewhat agree

There’s a difference between

“We prefer to meet Caucasian men”

And

“No blacks”

I look at it as the same thing where we go “I like slim women” is fine, “no fatties” isn’t

Dunno if I’m right here though, but it kinda makes sense in my head ..it doesnt make sense. Your version. Size of body has nothing to do with ,race,religion and skin colour!

To disregard others based upon their skin colour is a full on hate of thier ID of their whole being!!

All is a mind conditioning and taught at home,and the wider world!

" it wont be fixed ever" ..

Peace onto all fabber, glad tidings to all .

Remember it all goes back in that small box!

What does that mean?? Lol "

Each to their own perhaps? Crappy to specify yes. But we all know what sexually intrested us on first sight or not? No? My immediate family is mixed race, I am adopted, to a white family, and I look very white. Do I deal with issues surrounding that on a frequent basis? Yes, I do with low level racist cast away comments (as I present as white). And no, no they shouldn't happen, but they do. Society is definitely not as evolved in everyday conversations as we think it probably is. The difference is who some folk are having that conversation with, and how that colours their judgement

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Who cares, turn off the lights and let's fuck!

Yeah the answer! Maybe some are not ",FUCKING AND CANT CUM " coz they have under laying pressing issue's to deal with. From the corrupt ill heart and mind!!

Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Jesus wept! These forums today!

I’m so glad I just prefer to meet people I click with and find attractive.

That seems too easy. I'd rather stick with the logic of the OP's facts.

. Don’t you be doing an ageist thread! "

Hope there is not a human thread! Who and what are we really. Or turning into??

Lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think this guy is hurt because he's seeing too many white women with a preference for BBC

Colour preference is racist but the problem comes when people try to justify why they don't meet certain races.

Example -

"We don't meet Asians because we met an Asian guy one time and he was rude".

So if you met a white male next and they were rude would you then stop swinging all together?

Thanks for input!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s personal preferences which can lead in to other peoples opinions as racism which means your making judgment based on what you have only read on a profile

preference ….that’s all

I don’t like old men or overweight men

It’s a convo that will never end

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How is excluding all races apart from your own not racist, but then preferring a race outside your own racist?

Seriously, what the fuck?

I actually somewhat agree

There’s a difference between

“We prefer to meet Caucasian men”

And

“No blacks”

I look at it as the same thing where we go “I like slim women” is fine, “no fatties” isn’t

Dunno if I’m right here though, but it kinda makes sense in my head ..it doesnt make sense. Your version. Size of body has nothing to do with ,race,religion and skin colour!

To disregard others based upon their skin colour is a full on hate of thier ID of their whole being!!

All is a mind conditioning and taught at home,and the wider world!

" it wont be fixed ever" ..

Peace onto all fabber, glad tidings to all .

Remember it all goes back in that small box!

What does that mean?? Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s personal preferences which can lead in to other peoples opinions as racism which means your making judgment based on what you have only read on a profile

preference ….that’s all

I don’t like old men or overweight men

It’s a convo that will never end "

What happens when anything is Brushed away?

Not attended to ?

Even Acknowledged??

Brain storming and asking,thats all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

33 weeks dead and then given a bump, that has to be some forum record. It's like someone replying to a Tweet from 6 years ago.

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By *unfunfun xMan over a year ago

LONDON

Kinda has a point does op, wasn't it only few decades ago there was signs saying no blacks no Irish etc etc on shops buildings etc, that was deemed racist right? But I get everyone has a preference whatever it be.

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By *ommyTighMan over a year ago

Edinburgh

Gotta keep these ignorant and abhorant attitudes in check. So it’s good to remind/refresh!!!

Check out the couple from Slutsville, Scotland

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By *ou only live onceMan over a year ago

London

"Who searched for racism just to bring this back from the dead?"

My thoughts exactly. Because if there's one thing Fab needs, it's a bonus racism thread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont consider preferences racist.

However a question..

This happened to me when I was on as male on this site twice when. Just want to hear people's opinions.

Oh they like you now?

Coz you wear heals and a skirt??

But you still smell the same as before?

Whats the difference. Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sorry deleted ,stupid phone and predicted text made no sense whatsoever !!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!! "

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all. "

Rules are created Daily, coz its A Dysfuncional state of unwellness, from the heart straight up to the head that creates psyco tendencies shown openly and normalized everywhere.

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all. "

Very much so, it makes absolutely no difference why they don't want to fuck somebody. Even if it is 100% racist reasons, NOBODY should ever be shamed for not wanting to have sex with another person. Ever. For any reason.

If they don't want to sleep with me because I'm white? That's great, I'm okay with that.

But they show me respect as a human which is the main thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all.

If they don't want to sleep with me because I'm white? That's great, I'm okay with that.

But they show me respect as a human which is the main thing. "

"Respect" that will never happen, its the most fragile thing ever after the air we breathe daily!!

" all will go back in the box"

Thats why societys is being an open toxic vile C×××. Coz it knows deep down its doomed for full on distruction.

Just watch and observe, not words actions and behavoours openly!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all. "

Who gives a shite about fucking!! Lol ..

We cant even say a Hi, hello, or even look at others without mean intentions in this day and age.

We dont know of our very own existance firstly!!

Who are we? What are we? Whats our purpose?

...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all.

If they don't want to sleep with me because I'm white? That's great, I'm okay with that.

But they show me respect as a human which is the main thing. "

You shouldn't be ok with that.

It's fine they don't want to sleep with you. I see no issue with that. But when the reason is solely because you are white, it is a problem. It's racism no matter how someone tries to dress it up as preference. It's disrespectful and completely unacceptable.

I always get irked by these type of threads. I will never understand how dismissing a whole ethnic group is considered fine and dandy. It's putting people into groups, as if they are all the same. I completely understand that some people might be attracted to lighter features, or darker features. But there's a big difference between NO BLACKS and "I'm attracted to bright eyes, light skin and blonde hair more than anything else." I don't think we should be normalising the first or trying to justify it at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all.

If they don't want to sleep with me because I'm white? That's great, I'm okay with that.

But they show me respect as a human which is the main thing.

You shouldn't be ok with that.

Correct! Will the masses understand all this.

Or the one's on here pushing this very vile toxic agenda!

Many say brush it under the carpet, oh not this thread again!

Denial more cancer spreading from them. No stand its will hurt all us directly and indirctly.

"All will go back in the Box "

What does that mean??

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By *r_PinkMan over a year ago

london stratford

"Solidarity to everyone on here and hopefully this helps some people.

Preferences: height, body shape/type, age, tattoos, hairy, well endowed etc

Racism examples: Black only /No Asians

Preferring your own race to the exclusion of all other races: not racist.

Preferring another race from the one you belong to to the exclusion of other races : Racist.

Attraction is not innate, it is learned, which is why Racism either way in sexual attraction is not a preference.

Leaving before the defensive get defensive and any tedious whataboutery. But I think the above pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Happy Fabbing x"

You see this person no longer is on this site,

Thank fuck for that

coz this is a racist statement

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are no racist people on fab,at all,it's just preferences,hope that clears it up,also while we are at it,nobody breaks the speed limit as well,all law abiding citizens in here,oh yeah and whilst we're on the subject of being perfect, they're sure are a lot of doctors on here....gee wizzzzzz

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no racist people on fab,at all,it's just preferences,hope that clears it up,also while we are at it,nobody breaks the speed limit as well,all law abiding citizens in here,oh yeah and whilst we're on the subject of being perfect, they're sure are a lot of doctors on here....gee wizzzzzz"

Welcome "Dr Dolittle" what hospital do you work at?

Hows the NHS? Your Nurse collegues.

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By *hagTonightMan over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

It is all about preferences and nothing else to it.

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all.

If they don't want to sleep with me because I'm white? That's great, I'm okay with that.

But they show me respect as a human which is the main thing.

You shouldn't be ok with that.

Sex is a far too personal thing and a delicate subject, for me to ever care why or their reasoning. They simply don't want to have sex with me and that should be the end of it. Nothing else matters other than they don't. Forcing ideals on who we should or should not be able to have sex with is very wrong.

Their choices may be racist, or have racist origins but nothing should ever trump "I don't want to have sex with you".

This is why it will always be a tricky subject because it is a form of racism, but dictating to others on any grounds that they must be open to sleeping with potentially anyone and everyone is just as bad.

It is not a simple treating others equally or respectfully like most other things and interactions with life.

It is a catch 22 subject because of the personal and intimate nature of it all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all.

If they don't want to sleep with me because I'm white? That's great, I'm okay with that.

But they show me respect as a human which is the main thing.

You shouldn't be ok with that.

Their choices may be racist, or have racist origins but nothing should ever trump "I don't want to have sex with you".

It is not a simple treating others equally or respectfully like most other things and interactions with life.

It is a catch 22 subject because of the personal and intimate nature of it all.

Still avoiding the Main issue at hand! And Pussyfooting around and playing Games and Fruitsald of words to move it all away from the core of what it is! Cut thec sex out. Its human and people first, words communication then everything else.

Most are not vibrating on terms how they really treat and wish to be treated!

Yet more avoiding and pussyfooting will step forwards and Dismiss all of it!

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

"Still avoiding the Main issue at hand! And Pussyfooting around and playing Games and Fruitsald of words to move it all away from the core of what it is! Cut thec sex out. Its human and people first, words communication then everything else.

Most are not vibrating on terms how they really treat and wish to be treated!

Yet more avoiding and pussyfooting will step forwards and Dismiss all of it! "

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By *aydeeMan over a year ago

South East

Shooting down a bat doesn't eradicate the disease it spreads. As long as the scourge manifests in the outburst of them in whose heads it is ingrained, these conversations will remain in the open. Habits aren't turned off like a lightbulb switch.

"Who searched for racism just to bring this back from the dead?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Shooting down a bat doesn't eradicate the disease it spreads. As long as the scourge manifests in the outburst of them in whose heads it is ingrained, these conversations will remain in the open. Habits aren't turned off like a lightbulb switch.

Who searched for racism just to bring this back from the dead?"

Leave fab,coz its here to stay,walk far away from the smell.

Simple things are hard to see sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all.

If they don't want to sleep with me because I'm white? That's great, I'm okay with that.

But they show me respect as a human which is the main thing. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"2 daya ago! I had london fella part of a couple, racialy profileing me. Or trying to!

I replied accordingly. He deleted my message!

Too easy to do on here!

Trust me,it goes on openly in profiles!!

So let's say it is racist to not want to fuck X. Then what?

We can't make them fuck X.

The site can have rules against racist language but that's all.

If they don't want to sleep with me because I'm white? That's great, I'm okay with that.

But they show me respect as a human which is the main thing.

You shouldn't be ok with that.

Their choices may be racist, or have racist origins but nothing should ever trump "I don't want to have sex with you".

It is not a simple treating others equally or respectfully like most other things and interactions with life.

It is a catch 22 subject because of the personal and intimate nature of it all.

Most are not vibrating on terms how they really treat and wish to be treated!

Yet more avoiding and pussyfooting will step forwards and Dismiss all of it! "

So for example if I won't ever fuck X group of people and that is 'racist' in some people's eyes... then what?

I'm happy for people to think whatever they like about me. I still won't be fucking anyone that I'm not attracted to.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple over a year ago

Leeds

How has this post even made it back to the forums, honestly

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How has this post even made it back to the forums, honestly

Mrs "

What brought you her?? Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Preference. Racism.

They don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

Some say ‘won’t meet X’ (include suitable race) ‘but we’re not racist.’

People can meet who they choose to. That is their prerogative 100%. No qualms whatsoever.

I would beg to differ it’s not a form of racism though.

Just my $0.02 worth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Preference. Racism.

They don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

Some say ‘won’t meet X’ (include suitable race) ‘but we’re not racist.’

People can meet who they choose to. That is their prerogative 100%. No qualms whatsoever.

I would beg to differ it’s not a form of racism though.

Just my $0.02 worth."

Its not a form of Racism??

What do you mean??

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

If you're not going to be attractive to specific people, move on to these who don't exclude you. Efficiently using your energy is intelligent, especially if a single man here

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By *oeBeansMan over a year ago

Derby

Unfortunately, we'll never know the true motivations of those who don't wish to meet a certain race so it really is pointless to talk about or speculate because any opinion won't change their mind.

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By *ortyairCouple over a year ago

Wallasey

It's not racist to express a choice

It's just free will x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Unfortunately, we'll never know the true motivations of those who don't wish to meet a certain race so it really is pointless to talk about or speculate because any opinion won't change their mind.

Well stated with integrity and transparencie.

Cheers for a fair and genuine insight of a complex deeper than people claim or think it is.

More to us humans at play then we think or know of.

Fabb and its residants are here to stay.

We all are on this bus of life, some get off sooner than others. But the end is really the very same.

Why struggle for something so very short term???

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By *ortyairCouple over a year ago

Wallasey

"Unfortunately, we'll never know the true motivations of those who don't wish to meet a certain race so it really is pointless to talk about or speculate because any opinion won't change their mind.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Agreed

Totally and fully agree!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not racist to express a choice

It's just free will x"

Choice is levels of taste based upon certain selection from a visual perspective.

Alianation based on Skin tone colour culture,religion. Is steeped in Racism and learned from the enviroment and mindset. The feeling and sense certaim are far superior because of thier very lighter skin tone. .

Not by fairness of actions or otherwise!!

This wont go away, because of the sheer contempt and " DENIAL " full on and Harassment of many here and wider whom keep shoveimg this "TOXIC STENCH " aside saying its our Imaginations!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Unfortunately, we'll never know the true motivations of those who don't wish to meet a certain race so it really is pointless to talk about or speculate because any opinion won't change their mind.

What dont you agree with?

You seem to like the colour black? Your choice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Again it’s just personal preferences

What one decides to take from it is their choice entirely.

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By *ortyairCouple over a year ago

Wallasey

"Unfortunately, we'll never know the true motivations of those who don't wish to meet a certain race so it really is pointless to talk about or speculate because any opinion won't change their mind.

I do believe some people won't meet those of a certain race because of stereotypes they've heard and also think people confuse preference with choice and bias. I also don't believe it's an issue of attraction either, because it's surely impossible to find an entire race unattractive which means other beliefs are in play. "
I think your supposition is a little simplistic. So what about gay people? Are you saying that it's impossible for them to not find others of the different gender unattractive because of certain stereotype? Conversely does that mean all straight people on here are sexist because they don't want to sleep with people of ther own gender? I don't subscribe to that, in fact most gay guys I know love woman, they just don't want to fuck them.

Everyone has a set of ideals that would make up their perfect partner but few actually find someone who matches that 100% and who actually think that they are the bees knees too.

In the lack of your perfect, ideal partner, attraction can grow amongst those present and a relationship, loving or just sexual can form.

But ultimately, if you could have it, you would choose your ideal, if possible.

So that's all it is I believe on a platform like this. People are expressing their choice for what they would want in an ideal world.

If choice is removed, from any aspect of life, for fear of being called something derogatory, in this case a racist then it would be a very sad place.

Your choices in life are what make you you, most people are good and we should celebrate differences rather than being mean spirited and saying anyone's choices or preferences are based an assumption that they are made by some sort of nefarious influences, which I don't believe they are.

We should all be able to worship, follow, eat, fuck, whoever or whatever we want free from castigated.

Just be happy guys, have fun and not point at others who don't have the same 'ideals' as you. We are all different let's be happy with that, Father's are the dogs bollocks, love you all xxx

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By *ortyairCouple over a year ago

Wallasey

I meant 'Fabbers" not Father's, damn predictive text, but Dad's are great too lol x

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By *ortyairCouple over a year ago

Wallasey

"Unfortunately, we'll never know the true motivations of those who don't wish to meet a certain race so it really is pointless to talk about or speculate because any opinion won't change their mind.

What dont you agree with?

You seem to like the colour black? Your choice.

"
So am I a racist?

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By *ortyairCouple over a year ago

Wallasey

"Again it’s just personal preferences

What one decides to take from it is their choice entirely.

"
Exactly, wishing had seen this before I went on my rant lol x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I meant 'Fabbers" not Father's, damn predictive text, but Dad's are great too lol x"

Hahaha love a typo !

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By *ortyairCouple over a year ago

Wallasey

Fat fingers, damn it lol x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Unfortunately, we'll never know the true motivations of those who don't wish to meet a certain race so it really is pointless to talk about or speculate because any opinion won't change their mind.

What dont you agree with?

You seem to like the colour black? Your choice.

So am I a racist? "

I didnt say you was!

Are you actually??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some have fat brains. Not only fat fishfingers lol

Lets all ave a cuddle

Shall we!

Bet we cant arrange that!

But a piss up in the brewry ,was easier before the Intranet!!

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By *oeBeansMan over a year ago

Derby

"Unfortunately, we'll never know the true motivations of those who don't wish to meet a certain race so it really is pointless to talk about or speculate because any opinion won't change their mind.

I do believe some people won't meet those of a certain race because of stereotypes they've heard and also think people confuse preference with choice and bias. I also don't believe it's an issue of attraction either, because it's surely impossible to find an entire race unattractive which means other beliefs are in play. I think your supposition is a little simplistic. So what about gay people? Are you saying that it's impossible for them to not find others of the different gender unattractive because of certain stereotype? Conversely does that mean all straight people on here are sexist because they don't want to sleep with people of ther own gender? I don't subscribe to that, in fact most gay guys I know love woman, they just don't want to fuck them.

Everyone has a set of ideals that would make up their perfect partner but few actually find someone who matches that 100% and who actually think that they are the bees knees too.

In the lack of your perfect, ideal partner, attraction can grow amongst those present and a relationship, loving or just sexual can form.

But ultimately, if you could have it, you would choose your ideal, if possible.

So that's all it is I believe on a platform like this. People are expressing their choice for what they would want in an ideal world.

If choice is removed, from any aspect of life, for fear of being called something derogatory, in this case a racist then it would be a very sad place.

We should all be able to worship, follow, eat, fuck, whoever or whatever we want free from castigated.

Just be happy guys, have fun and not point at others who don't have the same 'ideals' as you. We are all different let's be happy with that, Father's are the dogs bollocks, love you all xxx"

I think you kind of reaffirmed my point without knowing. It's completely a choice as to who you do and don't want to have sex with, it's just that people hide behind the word "preference" instead of owning up to their choice. And I don't believe everyone who chooses not to have sex with a certain race are racist, but for some people their are negative biases towards it and that we'll never be able to tell the difference between them.