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"If you knowingly can be seen then it’s indecent otherwise not." We got rid of the laws around 'indecency' ages ago (at least in England and Wales we did). There's nothing wrong with being naked. Though if your neighbour complains, and you keep doing it, then that could constitute harassment. | |||
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"Things are looking up, my new neighbour appears to like sunbathing topless " Just because you moved into my cupboard doesn't make me your "neighbour" | |||
"Hi, does anyone know a nudist beach near Liverpool, Blackpool or the East Coast? We don't have any garden, so we are looking for some other options " My garden? | |||
"Things are looking up, my new neighbour appears to like sunbathing topless Just because you moved into my cupboard doesn't make me your "neighbour"" You do everything topless - at least in my mind | |||
"Things are looking up, my new neighbour appears to like sunbathing topless Just because you moved into my cupboard doesn't make me your "neighbour" You do everything topless - at least in my mind " Oh sweetie... that's why I fall over so much. I trip over my low hanging nipples | |||
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"This is what the actual law states: "In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress."" Except that's not the actual law, it's a quote from the CPS 'Guidance on handling cases of Naturism' leaflet. https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism It's a good explainer, but it's not the actual law. | |||
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"Firstly, it is not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales. However, it can become an offence if it can be proven that the naked individual caused harassment, alarm or distress to another person." Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 says "A person commits an offence if ... he intentionally exposes his genitals, and ... he intends that someone will see them and be caused alarm or distress". The offence is based on whether the person intended to cause alarm or distress, not whether alarm or distress was actually caused. The leaflet is saying that, without a person that was actually caused alarm or distress, any prosecution is likely to fail. "Harassment, alarm, distress under s.5 Public Order Act 1986: this requires a person to display any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person that is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress." As the leaflet says, this requires threatening or disorderly behaviour. Is not applicable to someone sunbathing in their own back garden. "Outraging public decency under common law: this requires a person to do in public any act of a lewd, obscene or disgusting nature which outrages public decency and must “go considerably beyond the susceptibilities of, or even shocking, reasonable people." As the leaflet says, Outraging Public Decency is a common law offence, so the details of it lie in case law. It has been proven several times that simply being naked, even in a public place, does not outage public decency. | |||
"Are you allowed? Or is it public indecency? " I just read an article about that recently (can't remember where). Though it's not illegal u either have to warn yr neighbours if they have a direct view or do it discreetly so they can't see. If they were to complain that's when the police can actually do something about it. | |||
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"Though it's not illegal u either have to warn yr neighbours if they have a direct view or do it discreetly so they can't see. If they were to complain that's when the police can actually do something about it." You don't have to warn your neighbour and, unless you get on with them, it's not a good idea to do so. If you don't get on with your neighbour, they are likely to object, just to spite you. If you went ahead and did it anyway, they could have a case for harassment. If you don't warn them, they can't say that you're doing it to annoy them. | |||
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"Never mind the neighbours, my own family tell me I'm not allowed to go nude in the garden! I thought them using the garden hose to drive their point home was highly insensitive though!" Harsh. Our policy is once we've declared naked garden for the day we'll be naked. So with regards to our friends and family it's completely up to them if they want to be out in the garden or not when we're naked. Whatever is comfortable with them. It's isn't anything unusual or adnormal in our household. | |||
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"Private garden so naked all the time. Don't like white bites " You quickly moved it on to bites | |||
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"So basically, you can be naked in your garden until someone complains, but how do you know they will complain until they actually do?" I think it's highly likely that regardless of whether they'll make an actual complaint or not, it'll make them highly uncomfortable. Unless you're a woman, and your neighbour is a man. According to some on here that's a good thing because it MUST mean the woman is gagging for it, and it's an invite for sex. She would be fully clothed if she didn't want you to see right? And if she wants you to see, she wants you to come over and dick her. | |||
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"I would if my garden was private " This | |||
"Nudity has nothing to do with sex. It's great to be in the nude when appropriate and do not compromise any decency norms. " Neither has wearing clothes, yet some folk fail to grasp that. How many threads have you seen talking about what someone is wearing, and if they're revealing should they go speak to the person or suchlike coz they might be sending out secret signals they're looking to hook up. There was literally a thread a few weeks ago about wearing a bikini in your own garden being a signal to onlookers to come over for sex. my brain couldn't take it. It's a sad fact that people ARE sexualised whether they want to be or not. | |||
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"Nudity has nothing to do with sex. It's great to be in the nude when appropriate and do not compromise any decency norms. Neither has wearing clothes, yet some folk fail to grasp that. How many threads have you seen talking about what someone is wearing, and if they're revealing should they go speak to the person or suchlike coz they might be sending out secret signals they're looking to hook up. There was literally a thread a few weeks ago about wearing a bikini in your own garden being a signal to onlookers to come over for sex. my brain couldn't take it. It's a sad fact that people ARE sexualised whether they want to be or not." You are right of course. And most people will wear what they do for themselves not for attracting sexual attention. People will always look even admire but nobody should see that as an invitation to free for all or any for that matter. As you said, it is what it is but when I am naked or wearing very little I do it for me and most nudists don't even notice nudity around them. Btw, so far I have not had to fight them off | |||
"So basically, you can be naked in your garden until someone complains ..." No, from a legal point of view you can be naked in your garden, whether they complain or not. Their complaint might get you a visit from a bored police officer, but you can't be prosecuted for it. But obviously it's not a good idea to deliberately annoy your neighbours. | |||
"So basically, you can be naked in your garden until someone complains ... No, from a legal point of view you can be naked in your garden, whether they complain or not. Their complaint might get you a visit from a bored police officer, but you can't be prosecuted for it. But obviously it's not a good idea to deliberately annoy your neighbours." | |||
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