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It’s difficult. Do you think Afghanistan, a country with a population of about 40 million, are all taliban?
On one hand, people there need help. Innocent families need urgent assistance
On the other hand, you can’t trust the taliban to properly use any aid they receive
Ultimately, as funny as you think it is, the only people suffering will be the poor families born into that hell hole of a country |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Innocent people have been affected by this yes, but you can't forget about all the women and girls who's received violent assaults and r*pe by their members |
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"Innocent people have been affected by this yes, but you can't forget about all the women and girls who's received violent assaults and r*pe by their members "
So your advocating letting those poor women go without aid in the middle of a natural disaster?
That’ll teach them |
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My only thoughts are people who have suffered from devastation. How states help is up to us.
Id the UK needed humanitarian help, would you be laughing, as family struggled, because others ignored us, due to the loathsom government here? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The Taliban severed ties with the international community, murdered those they suspected of “collaborating” with that international community, and openly reject and despise the very values that gave us the society where we can provide assistance.
They wanted to restore Afghanistan to a medieval shit hole. They got what they wanted.
Sorry but make your bed.. |
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"It’s difficult. Do you think Afghanistan, a country with a population of about 40 million, are all taliban?
On one hand, people there need help. Innocent families need urgent assistance
On the other hand, you can’t trust the taliban to properly use any aid they receive
Ultimately, as funny as you think it is, the only people suffering will be the poor families born into that hell hole of a country "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Innocent people have been affected by this yes, but you can't forget about all the women and girls who's received violent assaults and r*pe by their members "
Don't really get how you can compare that to a natural disaster? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Afghanistan has been receiving aid from countries, including us via the UN for a long time.
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All those countries cut financial ties with them last August when the Taliban gained control. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Afghanistan has been receiving aid from countries, including us via the UN for a long time.
All those countries cut financial ties with them last August when the Taliban gained control. "
No, there has still been aid provided since then, albeit less. |
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"Afghanistan has been receiving aid from countries, including us via the UN for a long time.
All those countries cut financial ties with them last August when the Taliban gained control. "
They cut direct aid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Taliban have asked for international help....are they having a laugh!!!!"
I get where you’re coming from OP but we are obliged to help where it is needed. The Taliban are scum, as our military will attest to but innocents require help. |
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"It’s difficult. Do you think Afghanistan, a country with a population of about 40 million, are all taliban?
On one hand, people there need help. Innocent families need urgent assistance
On the other hand, you can’t trust the taliban to properly use any aid they receive
Ultimately, as funny as you think it is, the only people suffering will be the poor families born into that hell hole of a country "
This..
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Is it clear what aid they want or need and what they permit to be provided.? Is it money? Equipment? Search and rescue? Medical? Disaster experts? I know we've only seen the media blurb so not much to go on but if they are reaching out for help maybe it's an opportunity to build some bridges? Or at least try. |
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"Is it clear what aid they want or need and what they permit to be provided.? Is it money? Equipment? Search and rescue? Medical? Disaster experts? I know we've only seen the media blurb so not much to go on but if they are reaching out for help maybe it's an opportunity to build some bridges? Or at least try. "
Agreed, the international community should respond as they would if this happened in any other country..
To ignore the needs of the population of Afghanistan is inhumane.. |
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"Is it clear what aid they want or need and what they permit to be provided.? Is it money? Equipment? Search and rescue? Medical? Disaster experts? I know we've only seen the media blurb so not much to go on but if they are reaching out for help maybe it's an opportunity to build some bridges? Or at least try.
Agreed, the international community should respond as they would if this happened in any other country..
To ignore the needs of the population of Afghanistan is inhumane.."
Sadly it’s a little more complicated than that |
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"Is it clear what aid they want or need and what they permit to be provided.? Is it money? Equipment? Search and rescue? Medical? Disaster experts? I know we've only seen the media blurb so not much to go on but if they are reaching out for help maybe it's an opportunity to build some bridges? Or at least try.
Agreed, the international community should respond as they would if this happened in any other country..
To ignore the needs of the population of Afghanistan is inhumane..
Sadly it’s a little more complicated than that "
Very true.. |
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"The Taliban severed ties with the international community, murdered those they suspected of “collaborating” with that international community, and openly reject and despise the very values that gave us the society where we can provide assistance.
They wanted to restore Afghanistan to a medieval shit hole. They got what they wanted.
Sorry but make your bed.."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Taliban severed ties with the international community, murdered those they suspected of “collaborating” with that international community, and openly reject and despise the very values that gave us the society where we can provide assistance.
They wanted to restore Afghanistan to a medieval shit hole. They got what they wanted.
Sorry but make your bed.."
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"The Taliban severed ties with the international community, murdered those they suspected of “collaborating” with that international community, and openly reject and despise the very values that gave us the society where we can provide assistance.
They wanted to restore Afghanistan to a medieval shit hole. They got what they wanted.
Sorry but make your bed..
Agree "
By “they” you mean the taliban?
I don’t think you mean the 40 million people that live there?
They should all suffer because a very small minority are cunts?
Thought people were past that kinda thinking. I guess years of propaganda has done its job |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. |
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By *ayHaychMan
over a year ago
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What this post and some replies highlight perfectly, is how the MSM stereotype an entire country. A country of 40 million labelled as “they”. Are all 40million people members of the Taliban?
The UK has around 70 million people. Are we all chanting praise for Boris Johnson? Are we all (all 70 million including the babies) members of the conservative party?
Something to think about… |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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"What this post and some replies highlight perfectly, is how the MSM stereotype an entire country. A country of 40 million labelled as “they”. Are all 40million people members of the Taliban?
The UK has around 70 million people. Are we all chanting praise for Boris Johnson? Are we all (all 70 million including the babies) members of the conservative party?
Something to think about…"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Taliban severed ties with the international community, murdered those they suspected of “collaborating” with that international community, and openly reject and despise the very values that gave us the society where we can provide assistance.
They wanted to restore Afghanistan to a medieval shit hole. They got what they wanted.
Sorry but make your bed..
Agree "
Yes I'm sure the hundreds of children that died in their beds stuck under rubble were all a part of this too. Let's punish them and their families for decisions they 100% had a hand in making.
Honestly these comments make me feel fucking ashamed on your behalf. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What this post and some replies highlight perfectly, is how the MSM stereotype an entire country. A country of 40 million labelled as “they”. Are all 40million people members of the Taliban?
The UK has around 70 million people. Are we all chanting praise for Boris Johnson? Are we all (all 70 million including the babies) members of the conservative party?
Something to think about…"
I think the more nuanced thing to realise is that no-one is able to go and help anyone directly. The Red Cross simply won't be allowed to bob into a load of villages and help people based on our (the Western World's) priorities of who needs help the most. All we can do it send money to the government of these people, in the (vain) hope that they will use that money wisely to help people, and hope that they won't prioritise things in the order of a) their own pockets, and b) their mates pockets, then c) some men with guns who prop up their regime, then d) other men lastly e) women and children if there is any money left...
This isn't criticism of the Afghan population, but of the method by which the Taliban will allow us to help, i.e. there's a very high likelihood that it's all a scam and by the time it's had it's bungs and backhanders sorted out by the beaurocracy, our £xm donation will be a tin of out of date beans and a rock to open it with... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What this post and some replies highlight perfectly, is how the MSM stereotype an entire country. A country of 40 million labelled as “they”. Are all 40million people members of the Taliban?
The UK has around 70 million people. Are we all chanting praise for Boris Johnson? Are we all (all 70 million including the babies) members of the conservative party?
Something to think about…
I think the more nuanced thing to realise is that no-one is able to go and help anyone directly. The Red Cross simply won't be allowed to bob into a load of villages and help people based on our (the Western World's) priorities of who needs help the most. All we can do it send money to the government of these people, in the (vain) hope that they will use that money wisely to help people, and hope that they won't prioritise things in the order of a) their own pockets, and b) their mates pockets, then c) some men with guns who prop up their regime, then d) other men lastly e) women and children if there is any money left...
This isn't criticism of the Afghan population, but of the method by which the Taliban will allow us to help, i.e. there's a very high likelihood that it's all a scam and by the time it's had it's bungs and backhanders sorted out by the beaurocracy, our £xm donation will be a tin of out of date beans and a rock to open it with..."
From what I've read on the BBC there have been many rescue workers coming in from neighbouring towns and countries to help pull people out by hand. Photos of massive queues of Afghans in the region wanting to give blood too. At the moment the weather is hindering rescuers more than the Taliban.
UN is also providing emergency shelter and aid packages. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's a hugely difficult situation to consider sending in aid that will likely never reach the intended victims. The Taliban itself doesn't control the country such that it could guarantee foreign aid workers would be safe. Their record is not great. |
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"The Taliban may be horrible but the Afghan people aren't. They're impoverished and in need, we (developed nations) are rich and privileged. We should definitely provide aid."
What sort of aid are we permitted to provide? Do we just click just giving for a tenner and discharge our obligations? Are we permitted boots on the ground or is it food parcels, medication, money? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Alot of international disaster relief gets transported by military transportation. So the Taliban allowing US and UK transports landing there is far fetched. |
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Reading some of the comments on this forum is really upsetting. Unfortunately it’s is the current state of the world and the propaganda that is being pushed out clearly showing it has worked. To have seen the BLM protests, our England football players receiving the abuse they did after the missed penalties. The ongoing Ukraine crisis.
What makes us better than the Taliban and there ideology if we are the same and quick to send judgment on people who are different to us. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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"The Taliban have asked for international help....are they having a laugh!!!!"
Afghanistan isn't just the Taliban fortunately, I mean literally in all senses. Mercifully given our pointless war on it, it is less ubiquitously controlling than it was. This country is asking for aid. --pt |
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"Reading some of the comments on this forum is really upsetting. Unfortunately it’s is the current state of the world and the propaganda that is being pushed out clearly showing it has worked. To have seen the BLM protests, our England football players receiving the abuse they did after the missed penalties. The ongoing Ukraine crisis.
What makes us better than the Taliban and there ideology if we are the same and quick to send judgment on people who are different to us."
I'm going out on a limb here. But I reckon "we" (being pretty much anyone who isn't the Taliban) are pretty much all better than the Taliban specifically how we treat people who are different to us. Not that I'm suggesting "being better than the Taliban" be the limit of our aspirations. |
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