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"Oooh look new thread what’s it about? " Info in my profile | |||
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"They really don't! " *pretends to be shocked* | |||
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"They really don't! " Don’t what? | |||
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"Quite a lot don't, Steve" I have read yours a lot of times. Quiz me | |||
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"Pickle. I think sometimes people might *whispers* lie. Look, I don't know if that's true or not, who really knows what's true or not in the crazy world of today? " Nothing is real. It’s all a social construction. Everything I was taught was a lie. *cries into pillow* - God that took me back to uni. | |||
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"They really don't! " She’s really right, they don’t | |||
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"TLDR " Are men trash? Yes or no? | |||
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"TLDR Are men trash? Yes or no? " No some are lovely. | |||
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"TLDR Are men trash? Yes or no? No some are lovely. " #NotAllMen | |||
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"They don’t. " Oh yes they do. | |||
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"My experience on here and on apps is they don’t I’ve literally put stuff like “if you message me just a basic hey how’s u message your getting blocked” And still, 75-80% of my messages would be basic “hey how’s u” messages " Wanna fuck or nah? | |||
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"My experience on here and on apps is they don’t I’ve literally put stuff like “if you message me just a basic hey how’s u message your getting blocked” And still, 75-80% of my messages would be basic “hey how’s u” messages " I read stuff with instructions like yours and I’m tempted to send ‘how’s you’ just to wind you up . It sounds demanding like I have to reply with something you want me to say. Can I not be myself in here? | |||
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"I’ve sent hey u to literally several guys no response. What are they frigid or something? " Frigid and fussy. | |||
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"I’ve sent hey u to literally several guys no response. What are they frigid or something? Frigid and fussy. " I was afraid of the fussy bit | |||
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"I’ve sent hey u to literally several guys no response. What are they frigid or something? " They can cope with hey, but adding the u bit was too many words to handle in one go. | |||
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"I always read them but it gets kind of disheartening when you finish reading a very long profile and it says the preferences and I’m nowhere near them. It’s just time I cannot get back in my life " That's why I put my biggest deal-breaker right at the top. Still doesn't work. That or people aren't very good at geography and think Dublin is within five miles of Reading. | |||
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"They really don't! She’s really right, they don’t " Oooh yes they do | |||
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"I always read them but it gets kind of disheartening when you finish reading a very long profile and it says the preferences and I’m nowhere near them. It’s just time I cannot get back in my life " Isn't distance right at the very top of a profile? | |||
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"I’ve sent hey u to literally several guys no response. What are they frigid or something? They can cope with hey, but adding the u bit was too many words to handle in one go." Explains why hmu nar was a fail | |||
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"I’ve sent hey u to literally several guys no response. What are they frigid or something? They can cope with hey, but adding the u bit was too many words to handle in one go. Explains why hmu nar was a fail " | |||
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"No they don't, at least not as much as they used to. If they did read my profile then bi or married men wouldn't message me " Men used to open doors. Now they send Ubers to pick you up. | |||
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"They absolutely do read them, assume it doesn’t apply to them and blindly message anyway. This goes for couples and single fems too. Everyone is at it " Ha ha hit the nail on the head there lol | |||
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"I have 27 new messages and a brief glance tells me that 20 of the senders haven't read my profile (or assume it doesn't apply to them)." I clearly read your profile and resisted urge to be like them other dudes | |||
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"I have 27 new messages and a brief glance tells me that 20 of the senders haven't read my profile (or assume it doesn't apply to them). I clearly read your profile and resisted urge to be like them other dudes " Nice ti- nvm. | |||
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"I have 27 new messages and a brief glance tells me that 20 of the senders haven't read my profile (or assume it doesn't apply to them). I clearly read your profile and resisted urge to be like them other dudes " I messaged you first so.... | |||
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"I have 27 new messages and a brief glance tells me that 20 of the senders haven't read my profile (or assume it doesn't apply to them). I clearly read your profile and resisted urge to be like them other dudes Nice ti- nvm. " I saw that!!! | |||
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"I have 27 new messages and a brief glance tells me that 20 of the senders haven't read my profile (or assume it doesn't apply to them). I clearly read your profile and resisted urge to be like them other dudes I messaged you first so.... " All good love stories start with older woman pursuing younger man. Like the Graduate. | |||
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"I have 27 new messages and a brief glance tells me that 20 of the senders haven't read my profile (or assume it doesn't apply to them). I clearly read your profile and resisted urge to be like them other dudes I messaged you first so.... All good love stories start with older woman pursuing younger man. Like the Graduate. " Oh my god | |||
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"No they don't, at least not as much as they used to. If they did read my profile then bi or married men wouldn't message me Men used to open doors. Now they send Ubers to pick you up. " Demonstrating a lack of effort. Whatever happened to romantically evicting your neighbours and moving in? Gen whatever needs to get it’s shiz together | |||
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"I think they do It doesn't mean they'll follow the instructions though " I bet you like giving instructions. | |||
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"I think they do It doesn't mean they'll follow the instructions though I bet you like giving instructions. " If a profile has more lines then buttons on a ps controller I lose interest | |||
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"I think they do It doesn't mean they'll follow the instructions though I bet you like giving instructions. If a profile has more lines then buttons on a ps controller I lose interest" If she is reading this wondering what a PS controller is- Ive lost interest. | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen " They don't. And it's a vicious circle. Men ping off random messages to Women. Women get cheesed off with dross in their inboxes. Men get frustrated as they're initiating conversations that go nowhere. They send more mail. And so it goes on!! | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen They don't. And it's a vicious circle. Men ping off random messages to Women. Women get cheesed off with dross in their inboxes. Men get frustrated as they're initiating conversations that go nowhere. They send more mail. And so it goes on!! " Nice Heels | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen They don't. And it's a vicious circle. Men ping off random messages to Women. Women get cheesed off with dross in their inboxes. Men get frustrated as they're initiating conversations that go nowhere. They send more mail. And so it goes on!! Nice Heels " I thought that too | |||
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"I don’t need to read profiles, the chicks just want me anyway. It’s just a non stop bird-o-rama over at Soze Towers." A 5-bird roast? | |||
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"I don’t need to read profiles, the chicks just want me anyway. It’s just a non stop bird-o-rama over at Soze Towers." You son of a I’m in. | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen " Yes, I think they do. And much like with any other guidance they assume they know best and batter right in with a boabie pic. | |||
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"I don’t need to read profiles, the chicks just want me anyway. It’s just a non stop bird-o-rama over at Soze Towers. A 5-bird roast?" Welcome to my life. | |||
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"I don’t need to read profiles, the chicks just want me anyway. It’s just a non stop bird-o-rama over at Soze Towers. A 5-bird roast? Welcome to my life. " It's a difficult world we live in. Our sympathies | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen Yes, I think they do. And much like with any other guidance they assume they know best and batter right in with a boabie pic." What’s boabie? | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen Yes, I think they do. And much like with any other guidance they assume they know best and batter right in with a boabie pic. What’s boabie? " The root of all evil. | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen Yes, I think they do. And much like with any other guidance they assume they know best and batter right in with a boabie pic. What’s boabie? The root of all evil." Nice. I want one | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen Yes, I think they do. And much like with any other guidance they assume they know best and batter right in with a boabie pic. What’s boabie? The root of all evil." I’ll never forget the first time I learned what the boabie is. A Glaswegian comic kept going on about it, I stupidly asked the question “what the fuck is a boabie?” He comes over, grabs my cock and balls, and shouts “thems your boabies sonny” | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen They don't. And it's a vicious circle. Men ping off random messages to Women. Women get cheesed off with dross in their inboxes. Men get frustrated as they're initiating conversations that go nowhere. They send more mail. And so it goes on!! Nice Heels " Thanks. | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen Yes, I think they do. And much like with any other guidance they assume they know best and batter right in with a boabie pic. What’s boabie? The root of all evil. I’ll never forget the first time I learned what the boabie is. A Glaswegian comic kept going on about it, I stupidly asked the question “what the fuck is a boabie?” He comes over, grabs my cock and balls, and shouts “thems your boabies sonny” " Nice. Did he give you a reach-around before head butting you then? | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen They don't. And it's a vicious circle. Men ping off random messages to Women. Women get cheesed off with dross in their inboxes. Men get frustrated as they're initiating conversations that go nowhere. They send more mail. And so it goes on!! Nice Heels I thought that too " You're the best. | |||
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"In our experience some read whilst waiting for the message to be replied to (or not!) and then send another message trying to put right the wrong done in the first one. " That just sounds like hard work | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen They don't. And it's a vicious circle. Men ping off random messages to Women. Women get cheesed off with dross in their inboxes. Men get frustrated as they're initiating conversations that go nowhere. They send more mail. And so it goes on!! Nice Heels I thought that too You're the best. " Only to you. | |||
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"If my inbox is anything to by probably not " I suggest you put "### Currently not meeting at the moment, only chatting in forums ###" as your heading. Just a thought to avoid unwanted aporoaches. | |||
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"considering the first line on my profile is no beards and then 80% of messages are from guys with beards tells all" What’s a beard these day though….? | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen They don't. And it's a vicious circle. Men ping off random messages to Women. Women get cheesed off with dross in their inboxes. Men get frustrated as they're initiating conversations that go nowhere. They send more mail. And so it goes on!! Nice Heels I thought that too You're the best. Only to you. " | |||
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"considering the first line on my profile is no beards and then 80% of messages are from guys with beards tells all What’s a beard these day though….? " a turn off | |||
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"considering the first line on my profile is no beards and then 80% of messages are from guys with beards tells all What’s a beard these day though….? " What’s in a beard? … A beard with any other face would look as sweet | |||
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"Women’s profiles all say the same thing for me. Something about not being able to view it. " | |||
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"Women’s profiles all say the same thing for me. Something about not being able to view it. " You get me, Swing | |||
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"considering the first line on my profile is no beards and then 80% of messages are from guys with beards tells all What’s a beard these day though….? a turn off " I am genuinely interested in how a naturally occurring thing can be a turn off. That’s fascinating Do other naturally occurring phenomenons like “eyebrows” and “nails” turn you off too? Serious question x | |||
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"considering the first line on my profile is no beards and then 80% of messages are from guys with beards tells all What’s a beard these day though….? a turn off I am genuinely interested in how a naturally occurring thing can be a turn off. That’s fascinating Do other naturally occurring phenomenons like “eyebrows” and “nails” turn you off too? Serious question x " would you bed a woman with 2 inch fungus infected toe nails ?? all natural of couse ?? | |||
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"My favourite ones are "I know your profile says.... but" " Bloody blokes! trying their damndest to get their ends away ! ** shakes fist ** | |||
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"considering the first line on my profile is no beards and then 80% of messages are from guys with beards tells all What’s a beard these day though….? a turn off I am genuinely interested in how a naturally occurring thing can be a turn off. That’s fascinating Do other naturally occurring phenomenons like “eyebrows” and “nails” turn you off too? Serious question x would you bed a woman with 2 inch fungus infected toe nails ?? all natural of couse ??" That’s the same as likening a pair of eyes to herpes. (but no, for the record!) I wasn’t having a dig at you, I was genuinely curious. And thank you for taking the time to answer | |||
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"I estimate between 97% and 99% of men do not read profiles The ones that do read often have the most verifications Read into that what you will... " I'm going to start some academic research into the reading age of men and sexual prowess | |||
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"I estimate between 97% and 99% of men do not read profiles The ones that do read often have the most verifications Read into that what you will... I'm going to start some academic research into the reading age of men and sexual prowess " The findings will not be shocking | |||
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"Quite a lot don't, Steve I have read yours a lot of times. Quiz me " I would if I could remember what I wrote. | |||
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"I just look at the tits." Don't forget the vids lol.. I always read a profile. Like to see what they are into and if they are apposed to attached guys before messaging | |||
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"I just look at the tits." Mrs of Mr speaking? | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen " Also Steve, in my usual pedantic way, mathematics has more than one discipline, hence why its plural | |||
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" Fab is just a grown-up picture book, surely? " Nice rack | |||
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" Fab is just a grown-up picture book, surely? Nice rack" | |||
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"They really don't! " I do it's pointless contacting people unless you know if you might be a match or not | |||
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"I wonder if the problem is that several people will log in here when they are horny, wanting relief. At that point they're busy looking who's online and then at the pictures to see if they grab their interest. At that point, that's enough for them to message as they're pretty much gagging. In short, too many think of this place as an easy booty call and too many are left disappointed. There are many that do read profiles though, our messages have dropped a lot since we've changed our profile to 'not looking', some of those messages we do receive acknowledge we're not looking but offer compliments or ask if we'd like to chat until we are looking. " It could also be the point that 90% of message don’t unopened. Not even ignored. Just unopened Eventually lots of guys realise this and stop trying. Why spend the time reading a profile and trying to put together a well crafted first message when it goes unopened most of the time If someone fancied you, they fancy you. A quick message and a few pics will achieve the result you want with way less effort. Why waste effort on things that go unopened is the idea a lot of guys reach. | |||
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"I wonder if the problem is that several people will log in here when they are horny, wanting relief. At that point they're busy looking who's online and then at the pictures to see if they grab their interest. At that point, that's enough for them to message as they're pretty much gagging. In short, too many think of this place as an easy booty call and too many are left disappointed. There are many that do read profiles though, our messages have dropped a lot since we've changed our profile to 'not looking', some of those messages we do receive acknowledge we're not looking but offer compliments or ask if we'd like to chat until we are looking. It could also be the point that 90% of message don’t unopened. Not even ignored. Just unopened Eventually lots of guys realise this and stop trying. Why spend the time reading a profile and trying to put together a well crafted first message when it goes unopened most of the time If someone fancied you, they fancy you. A quick message and a few pics will achieve the result you want with way less effort. Why waste effort on things that go unopened is the idea a lot of guys reach. " Didn't realise you had done such extensive research on the site? | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen Also Steve, in my usual pedantic way, mathematics has more than one discipline, hence why its plural " Our American amigos disagree | |||
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"I wonder if the problem is that several people will log in here when they are horny, wanting relief. At that point they're busy looking who's online and then at the pictures to see if they grab their interest. At that point, that's enough for them to message as they're pretty much gagging. In short, too many think of this place as an easy booty call and too many are left disappointed. There are many that do read profiles though, our messages have dropped a lot since we've changed our profile to 'not looking', some of those messages we do receive acknowledge we're not looking but offer compliments or ask if we'd like to chat until we are looking. It could also be the point that 90% of message don’t unopened. Not even ignored. Just unopened Eventually lots of guys realise this and stop trying. Why spend the time reading a profile and trying to put together a well crafted first message when it goes unopened most of the time If someone fancied you, they fancy you. A quick message and a few pics will achieve the result you want with way less effort. Why waste effort on things that go unopened is the idea a lot of guys reach. Didn't realise you had done such extensive research on the site? " DM for my thesis | |||
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"I wonder if the problem is that several people will log in here when they are horny, wanting relief. At that point they're busy looking who's online and then at the pictures to see if they grab their interest. At that point, that's enough for them to message as they're pretty much gagging. In short, too many think of this place as an easy booty call and too many are left disappointed. There are many that do read profiles though, our messages have dropped a lot since we've changed our profile to 'not looking', some of those messages we do receive acknowledge we're not looking but offer compliments or ask if we'd like to chat until we are looking. It could also be the point that 90% of message don’t unopened. Not even ignored. Just unopened Eventually lots of guys realise this and stop trying. Why spend the time reading a profile and trying to put together a well crafted first message when it goes unopened most of the time If someone fancied you, they fancy you. A quick message and a few pics will achieve the result you want with way less effort. Why waste effort on things that go unopened is the idea a lot of guys reach. Didn't realise you had done such extensive research on the site? DM for my thesis " Can't | |||
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"I wonder if the problem is that several people will log in here when they are horny, wanting relief. At that point they're busy looking who's online and then at the pictures to see if they grab their interest. At that point, that's enough for them to message as they're pretty much gagging. In short, too many think of this place as an easy booty call and too many are left disappointed. There are many that do read profiles though, our messages have dropped a lot since we've changed our profile to 'not looking', some of those messages we do receive acknowledge we're not looking but offer compliments or ask if we'd like to chat until we are looking. It could also be the point that 90% of message don’t unopened. Not even ignored. Just unopened Eventually lots of guys realise this and stop trying. Why spend the time reading a profile and trying to put together a well crafted first message when it goes unopened most of the time If someone fancied you, they fancy you. A quick message and a few pics will achieve the result you want with way less effort. Why waste effort on things that go unopened is the idea a lot of guys reach. " And so this begins the vicious circle. From a swinging couples perspective, it's not only about fancying someone. There's more to it, being a straight guy, if we're looking to find a guy, I'll not be looking to see if we fancy one another. If Mrs and He fancy each other, that's one step forward. But there's more, an element of trust, understanding, compatibility in more than do we like the look of one another. Though swinging can be based around primal instincts, bringing someone in to join us in the most intimate aspect of a relationship requires more than just 'fancying'. That's from our perspective anyway. | |||
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"I wonder if the problem is that several people will log in here when they are horny, wanting relief. At that point they're busy looking who's online and then at the pictures to see if they grab their interest. At that point, that's enough for them to message as they're pretty much gagging. In short, too many think of this place as an easy booty call and too many are left disappointed. There are many that do read profiles though, our messages have dropped a lot since we've changed our profile to 'not looking', some of those messages we do receive acknowledge we're not looking but offer compliments or ask if we'd like to chat until we are looking. It could also be the point that 90% of message don’t unopened. Not even ignored. Just unopened Eventually lots of guys realise this and stop trying. Why spend the time reading a profile and trying to put together a well crafted first message when it goes unopened most of the time If someone fancied you, they fancy you. A quick message and a few pics will achieve the result you want with way less effort. Why waste effort on things that go unopened is the idea a lot of guys reach. And so this begins the vicious circle. From a swinging couples perspective, it's not only about fancying someone. There's more to it, being a straight guy, if we're looking to find a guy, I'll not be looking to see if we fancy one another. If Mrs and He fancy each other, that's one step forward. But there's more, an element of trust, understanding, compatibility in more than do we like the look of one another. Though swinging can be based around primal instincts, bringing someone in to join us in the most intimate aspect of a relationship requires more than just 'fancying'. That's from our perspective anyway." I mean it’s the first step in getting a reply. Once a reply had been received then great, start crafting your messages to entice them But can you blame guys for no reading profiles and putting in low effort when most messages go unopened? I can’t. I used to believe in all that, until I saw how many of my well thought out messages were left unread Then I went to just a quick “here’s me drop me a message if you take my fancy” - the sabe results but way less effort Now I just don’t message. Let the ones that want to meet message me. Less results, but it’s zero effort which is what I want from here as I’m not willing to go to socials or clubs | |||
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"I wonder if the problem is that several people will log in here when they are horny, wanting relief. At that point they're busy looking who's online and then at the pictures to see if they grab their interest. At that point, that's enough for them to message as they're pretty much gagging. In short, too many think of this place as an easy booty call and too many are left disappointed. There are many that do read profiles though, our messages have dropped a lot since we've changed our profile to 'not looking', some of those messages we do receive acknowledge we're not looking but offer compliments or ask if we'd like to chat until we are looking. It could also be the point that 90% of message don’t unopened. Not even ignored. Just unopened Eventually lots of guys realise this and stop trying. Why spend the time reading a profile and trying to put together a well crafted first message when it goes unopened most of the time If someone fancied you, they fancy you. A quick message and a few pics will achieve the result you want with way less effort. Why waste effort on things that go unopened is the idea a lot of guys reach. And so this begins the vicious circle. From a swinging couples perspective, it's not only about fancying someone. There's more to it, being a straight guy, if we're looking to find a guy, I'll not be looking to see if we fancy one another. If Mrs and He fancy each other, that's one step forward. But there's more, an element of trust, understanding, compatibility in more than do we like the look of one another. Though swinging can be based around primal instincts, bringing someone in to join us in the most intimate aspect of a relationship requires more than just 'fancying'. That's from our perspective anyway. I mean it’s the first step in getting a reply. Once a reply had been received then great, start crafting your messages to entice them But can you blame guys for no reading profiles and putting in low effort when most messages go unopened? I can’t. I used to believe in all that, until I saw how many of my well thought out messages were left unread Then I went to just a quick “here’s me drop me a message if you take my fancy” - the sabe results but way less effort Now I just don’t message. Let the ones that want to meet message me. Less results, but it’s zero effort which is what I want from here as I’m not willing to go to socials or clubs " This is why we like the option to wink. If we receive a wink (when looking) and their profile catches our eye, we will wink back to suggest we open to chatting. | |||
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"I just look at the tits. Mrs of Mr speaking?" I see what you did there | |||
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"I had a long profile that hardly anyone read. Most don’t even read one line of mine now " Ok that put a big ol smile on my face | |||
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" This is why we like the option to wink. If we receive a wink (when looking) and their profile catches our eye, we will wink back to suggest we open to chatting." I think that’s the best idea and have that in my profile. I’ll take a wink as “I’m interested” and if I like the look of them I’ll message Still, about 50% of those go unopened | |||
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" This is why we like the option to wink. If we receive a wink (when looking) and their profile catches our eye, we will wink back to suggest we open to chatting. I think that’s the best idea and have that in my profile. I’ll take a wink as “I’m interested” and if I like the look of them I’ll message Still, about 50% of those go unopened " I wouldn't rely on a wink as a first point of contact and no message. Many never check the winks, i very rarely do. I had over 50 winks the other day, i dont have the time or the inclination to then check the profile of the 50 guys who sent winks to see If i like them and then messager them. | |||
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"To be fair to men, I get distracted by the titties too. " I blame a lockdown diet for my titties..... Winston | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen " I admit it!!! I’m a man. I don’t read instructions for flat packs, I don’t read directions when travelling, why would I read a profile? | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen " You answered it. some do, some don't. | |||
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"Every word and it makes fuck all difference." Hahaha legend | |||
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"Many don’t bother reading the profile- mine says about not responding to one line messages and guess what …. " Hi x how’s u x | |||
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"Many don’t bother reading the profile- mine says about not responding to one line messages and guess what …. Hi x how’s u x" Fun? Lady Astor | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them. Some of the math ain’t mathing. #NotAllMen " Should be titled “Do people not read profiles?” | |||
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"Maybe men read them and just ignore completely everything they’ve read? Or think “fuck you, I want to send my dick pic so here it is”? My profile has gone from short and friendly to long and negative over time based on the messages I’ve received. " I agree about the ever expanding profile! Ironic isn’t it? As it rarely gets read | |||
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"Maybe men read them and just ignore completely everything they’ve read? Or think “fuck you, I want to send my dick pic so here it is”? My profile has gone from short and friendly to long and negative over time based on the messages I’ve received. I agree about the ever expanding profile! Ironic isn’t it? As it rarely gets read " Very ironic. It just gives me back up to say “it’s all on my profile”. | |||
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"Curious. I’ve always read them. Men on here say they always read them." Well, men on here have proven that they can read, the rest, the majority, the great unwashed...they just look at the pictures. | |||
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"Maybe men read them and just ignore completely everything they’ve read? Or think “fuck you, I want to send my dick pic so here it is”? My profile has gone from short and friendly to long and negative over time based on the messages I’ve received. " Pretty privilege. | |||
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