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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Just a curious question.. I live in the states what happened to men being old school? Men well putting it bluntly being men. I understand the dynamics of different countries..I prefer being treated like a woman not a equal.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

Home

Everyone to their own

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

It's called progress.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just a curious question.. I live in the states what happened to men being old school? Men well putting it bluntly being men. I understand the dynamics of different countries..I prefer being treated like a woman not a equal."

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Men have never stopped being men.

Old school men would revoke your rights as a woman, heck they would still do it now in some countries, is that what you want?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I get what you mean, there is a lot of equality these days, some like it and some don't. I am a little "old school" but just go with the flow really, however I think you are really meaning manners, only small things but they definitely go a long way... Xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you? "

Dancing in the kitchen.. sitting by camp fires .. no internet no tv just us.. talking and enjoying one another's company.Not gaming watching TV and ignoring one another.

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

Why can't people treat you like a woman and an equal?

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I spent 10 years at 2 different Boarding Schools, and at least I learnt that it's an equal....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's called progress. "

Progress how?

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"Men have never stopped being men.

Old school men would revoke your rights as a woman, heck they would still do it now in some countries, is that what you want?"

She lives in the states - lots of old white dudes are trying their hardest to revoke her rights as we speak so they can continue getting paid by the evangelicals

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you?

Dancing in the kitchen.. sitting by camp fires .. no internet no tv just us.. talking and enjoying one another's company.Not gaming watching TV and ignoring one another."

That's just society and it's need for more and more Tech...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

‘Treated like a woman not a equal’ has actually sent me to the shops. Wow

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you?

Dancing in the kitchen.. sitting by camp fires .. no internet no tv just us.. talking and enjoying one another's company.Not gaming watching TV and ignoring one another."

That has nothing to do with old school or gender. Isn't that just life choices?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Why can't people treat you like a woman and an equal?"

We are different.. we love the romance part ..it's symantics I do.. dancing in kitchen.. just talking my exes was different beast.. sex..gaming and tv ..

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"It's called progress.

Progress how? "

Men and women no longer have to conform to stereotypes. Men no longer have to act in a certain way to conform to manly expectations.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

Why can't people treat you like a woman and an equal?

We are different.. we love the romance part ..it's symantics I do.. dancing in kitchen.. just talking my exes was different beast.. sex..gaming and tv .."

Well, you must live how you want to.

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By *iberius61Man over a year ago

Pontefract

"...it's symantics I do.. dancing in kitchen.. just talking my exes was different beast.. sex..gaming and tv .."

Those words appear to be English, but put together in that order, they just make no sense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"...it's symantics I do.. dancing in kitchen.. just talking my exes was different beast.. sex..gaming and tv ..

Those words appear to be English, but put together in that order, they just make no sense.

There's English and there is wrong...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"...it's symantics I do.. dancing in kitchen.. just talking my exes was different beast.. sex..gaming and tv ..

Those words appear to be English, but put together in that order, they just make no sense.

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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"It's called progress.

Progress how? "

Well, you no longer get dragged into a cave by your hair.

Hopefully.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Men have never stopped being men.

Old school men would revoke your rights as a woman, heck they would still do it now in some countries, is that what you want?

She lives in the states - lots of old white dudes are trying their hardest to revoke her rights as we speak so they can continue getting paid by the evangelicals

Not true I probably make more than you.. white egotistical asshays not my bag.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Just because I believe in gentlemen we're does the equality falls into that aspect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is getting juicy. I’m gonna get comfy.

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Men well putting it bluntly being men."

The ridiculous notion of 'men being men' is incredibly unhelpful for men and wider society. It has serious ramifications.

And any man who is willing to treat you as less than an equal doesn't deserve your time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The finals is on in an hour. We get to watch Chef Curry live.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Men well putting it bluntly being men.

The ridiculous notion of 'men being men' is incredibly unhelpful for men and wider society. It has serious ramifications.

And any man who is willing to treat you as less than an equal doesn't deserve your time.

Men have a different view.. fact

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"Men have never stopped being men.

Old school men would revoke your rights as a woman, heck they would still do it now in some countries, is that what you want?

She lives in the states - lots of old white dudes are trying their hardest to revoke her rights as we speak so they can continue getting paid by the evangelicals

Not true I probably make more than you.. white egotistical asshays not my bag."

Right, so Republicans did not stack the Supreme Court to get rid of Roe v Wade, and certain states haven't rushed through drastic anti abortion bills and none of these in anyway impede on womens rights? And absolutely none of this has anything to do with the religious racist agendas set out by not having enough “white” babies to adopt?

As for the comment about making more than me, do we now need to get into My Dads bugger than your Dad territory?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Old school in which way?

What's the difference between being treated as a Woman and an Equal?

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

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"Men well putting it bluntly being men.

The ridiculous notion of 'men being men' is incredibly unhelpful for men and wider society. It has serious ramifications.

And any man who is willing to treat you as less than an equal doesn't deserve your time.

Men have a different view.. fact"
no we don't, everyone is equal in my eyes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Old school in which way?

Men supposed to be the protector your physically attuned to that role.

What's the difference between being treated as a Woman and an Equal?"

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Men have a different view.. fact"

Well, I'm a man and I don't. So... not fact.

And many of those working with men struggling with suicidal ideation don't either. So, not fact.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Men have a different view.. fact

Well, I'm a man and I don't. So... not fact.

And many of those working with men struggling with suicidal ideation don't either. So, not fact. "

Why is the suicidal aspects have to be attainable.. is it because of society aspects on on what is perceived as a manly construct?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Men well putting it bluntly being men.

The ridiculous notion of 'men being men' is incredibly unhelpful for men and wider society. It has serious ramifications.

And any man who is willing to treat you as less than an equal doesn't deserve your time.

Men have a different view.. factno we don't, everyone is equal in my eyes. "

How so.. you have the ability to physically outperform a woman.. the inequality proves what again ?

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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Why is the suicidal aspects have to be attainable.. is it because of society aspects on on what is perceived as a manly construct?"

Maybe try this again when you've sobered up?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Men well putting it bluntly being men.

The ridiculous notion of 'men being men' is incredibly unhelpful for men and wider society. It has serious ramifications.

And any man who is willing to treat you as less than an equal doesn't deserve your time.

Men have a different view.. factno we don't, everyone is equal in my eyes.

How so.. you have the ability to physically outperform a woman.. the inequality proves what again ?"

I was in the US army no matter how hard I tried to be one of the guys .. even though I out ranked and had better schooling .. yet I just a woman... Like I said it's better to treat us as women you all can't handle a woman that out preforms men.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you?

Dancing in the kitchen.. sitting by camp fires .. no internet no tv just us.. talking and enjoying one another's company.Not gaming watching TV and ignoring one another."

I think what you're referring to there is electricity. Or lack thereof. You can switch it off. Like magic

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you?

Dancing in the kitchen.. sitting by camp fires .. no internet no tv just us.. talking and enjoying one another's company.Not gaming watching TV and ignoring one another.

I think what you're referring to there is electricity. Or lack thereof. You can switch it off. Like magic

Electricity is 10O percent.. what's wrong with being honest without media and gaming distraction to a relationship?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you?

Dancing in the kitchen.. sitting by camp fires .. no internet no tv just us.. talking and enjoying one another's company.Not gaming watching TV and ignoring one another.

I think what you're referring to there is electricity. Or lack thereof. You can switch it off. Like magic

Electricity is 10O percent.. what's wrong with being honest without media and gaming distraction to a relationship?

Call me a redneck don't care.. I hace more property value we than you.. funny.

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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Don't assume I'm the same as a bunch of under-educated American jocks.

I say "Woo" a lot less, for a start

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

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"Men well putting it bluntly being men.

The ridiculous notion of 'men being men' is incredibly unhelpful for men and wider society. It has serious ramifications.

And any man who is willing to treat you as less than an equal doesn't deserve your time.

Men have a different view.. factno we don't, everyone is equal in my eyes.

How so.. you have the ability to physically outperform a woman.. the inequality proves what again ?"
thankfully the men on this side of the Atlantic have evolved beyond being male chauvinist pigs.

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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Call me a redneck don't care.. I hace more property value we than you.. funny."

Nobody called you a redneck, and you've misunderstood the post that re-triggered your materialism.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Men.... No offense .. be you.. no matter the perceived constructs you are told to accept... You are the protectors .. I don't mean financially any idiot can prove that... But when the cards fall and when physical falls into play

. You are kings.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Let one woman prove me wrong...

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

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"Men.... No offense .. be you.. no matter the perceived constructs you are told to accept... You are the protectors .. I don't mean financially any idiot can prove that... But when the cards fall and when physical falls into play

. You are kings.

"
oh sweet mother of God

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Why is the suicidal aspects have to be attainable.. is it because of society aspects on on what is perceived as a manly construct?"

I'm sorry, but I can't understand what you're actually asking.

There is a fair amount of research that shows that male suicide - one of the primary causes of early death in men - is directly related to societal expectations to be a so-called real man.

That is, rather than seeing a counsellor, or talking to their friends, men should "man up" and "grow a pair" and be a real man.

However, I'm not sure why we're even having this conversation. Shouldn't you being in the kitchen, doing the laundry or breastfeeding the kids?

You seem to have a rather selective understanding of what being a man's man actually is (the kind that is more often held by an insecure man, not a woman).

#ironywarning

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I work in a male industry being a plasterer but have had a pretty good experience, the odd comment here and there but out if curiosity, but this doesn't mean im not treated the same as a woman

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Call me a redneck don't care.. I hace more property value we than you.. funny."

But should you have more property value? Why don't you learn your place and stop being so alpha?

Mixed messages galore.

It's weird that you've brought up your apparent wealth a couple of times. I would've hoped your man might have instilled a stronget sense of security in you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Male and female equality should never be in question in my opinion. As with any equality when it come to human beings. We are All the same at end of the day. However I do agree that chivalry is dead. Men of a certain era are brought up to respect women and be gentlemanly towards them ie open doors ect. Today's society has men second guessing themselves in fear of being branded whatever the in vogue term is.

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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It's probably the male half of OP posting all along. The female half is out enjoying herself and he's trying to distract himself from the lack of contact sport on the TV.

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"It's probably the male half of OP posting all along. The female half is out enjoying herself and he's trying to distract himself from the lack of contact sport on the TV."

100% it is the 55 year old male posting, not his 35 year old female partner. (Presumably, she's making him a pie, or darning his socks?)

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you?

Dancing in the kitchen.. sitting by camp fires .. no internet no tv just us.. talking and enjoying one another's company.Not gaming watching TV and ignoring one another.

I think what you're referring to there is electricity. Or lack thereof. You can switch it off. Like magic

Electricity is 10O percent.. what's wrong with being honest without media and gaming distraction to a relationship?

Call me a redneck don't care.. I hace more property value we than you.. funny."

1) I didn't call you anything

2) You replied to yourself

3) Do you know which of us you are replying to? The wife or the husband? No.

4) You have no idea what property I own, or what it's worth. Nor do I know about yours (and frankly don't care).

5) Are you aware that posting on an online forum from some kind of modern technological device seemingly is in opposition to all the "values" you railed against at the start?

6) Women fought and died for the rights I now enjoy as a 21st century woman. I'm going to grasp those rights with both hands and fight for them to remain and develop worldwide.

You do you, we'll do us

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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100% it is the 55 year old male posting, not his alleged 35 year old female partner."

Small correction

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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"It's probably the male half of OP posting all along. The female half is out enjoying herself and he's trying to distract himself from the lack of contact sport on the TV.

100% it is the 55 year old male posting, not his 35 year old female partner. (Presumably, she's making him a pie, or darning his socks?)"

I have to believe it's the fella, otherwise this is a very confusing thread, white knight-ing gender equality AGAINST a bird...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

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"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

"
im sure there are plenty of women out there who could pound you to pulp

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Moonshine might be involved here.

Anyway, I'm physically stronger than Mr KC. But what the fuck does that matter in our relationship?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

im sure there are plenty of women out there who could pound you to pulp "
to prove it ?

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

im sure there are plenty of women out there who could pound you to pulp

to prove it ?"

Imagine a BBW sitting on your "husband's" face.

Is he getting up? No he is not.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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"Moonshine might be involved here.

Pass the jug around please

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

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"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

im sure there are plenty of women out there who could pound you to pulp to prove it ?"
to prove what you're the yoke going on about men being superior to women. I wonder would you have the balls to go into a ring with Katie Taylor the world champion boxer

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

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"Men have a different view.. fact"

It would be interesting to know where you get your facts from

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Men have a different view.. fact

It would be interesting to know where you get your facts from

Factsville, Illinois

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

It's not a fact, it's a generalisation.

I'm sorry that's such a long word, but I'm sure you rich people can afford the very best leather-bound book of wurds

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

im sure there are plenty of women out there who could pound you to pulp to prove it ?to prove what you're the yoke going on about men being superior to women. I wonder would you have the balls to go into a ring with Katie Taylor the world champion boxer "

..or any of the MMA crowd...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Played the man game... Did 20 years in the army.. airbourne qualified .. 2tours in combat situations ..yet men.. no offense ...how is that equal? It was raised men. You are the protectors.. the glue to our empathy. Yet things change

... Men be men equality is a lame construct in the civilian world... Enjoy being a man...

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

You keep stating that things are "facts." And when someone points out to you that it is not that cut and dried, you just ignore them.

Even your own alleged military career refutes your own point!

And what do you make of the 5'7 skinny guy who is married to the 5'9 female MMA fighter? Is he still the 'king'?

You could have inspired an interesting series of discussions in this thread, but you fail to properly reply to your respondents and your own argument seems to be all over the place.

That's probably why, traditionally, debates were left to the men, whilst the women cleared away the plates and dishes. I'm guessing you'd prefer that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

You keep stating that things are "facts." And when someone points out to you that it is not that cut and dried, you just ignore them.

Even your own alleged military career refutes your own point!

And what do you make of the 5'7 skinny guy who is married to the 5'9 female MMA fighter? Is he still the 'king'?

You could have inspired an interesting series of discussions in this thread, but you fail to properly reply to your respondents and your own argument seems to be all over the place.

That's probably why, traditionally, debates were left to the men, whilst the women cleared away the plates and dishes. I'm guessing you'd prefer that? "

Yet he has the drive to kill why is that.. I do not I chose the medical field not combat?

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

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"Played the man game... Did 20 years in the army.. airbourne qualified .. 2tours in combat situations ..yet men.. no offense ...how is that equal? It was raised men. You are the protectors.. the glue to our empathy. Yet things change

... Men be men equality is a lame construct in the civilian world... Enjoy being a man..."
if you are so manly in the US why do you need guns to protect your families.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

You keep stating that things are "facts." And when someone points out to you that it is not that cut and dried, you just ignore them.

Even your own alleged military career refutes your own point!

And what do you make of the 5'7 skinny guy who is married to the 5'9 female MMA fighter? Is he still the 'king'?

You could have inspired an interesting series of discussions in this thread, but you fail to properly reply to your respondents and your own argument seems to be all over the place.

That's probably why, traditionally, debates were left to the men, whilst the women cleared away the plates and dishes. I'm guessing you'd prefer that?

Yet he has the drive to kill why is that.. I do not I chose the medical field not combat? "

In the past, you've expounded the virtues of killing animals for sport, so that would suggest you also have a drive to kill. Any human being is capable of killing, it's not gender specific. You have failed to separate nature from nurture.

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

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Hang on. We apparently have a 35 year old woman with 20 years military combat experience.

I think I've spotted something. Let me send one of my bitches for a calculator...

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Sorry 10 mistyped If you need to seey CAC card I can show privately.

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Men have a different view.. fact

It would be interesting to know where you get your facts from

Factsville, Illinois

Ah bollox, and there was silly old me thinking Sidney Uni had something to do with it

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Yet he has the drive to kill why is that.. I do not I chose the medical field not combat? "

You may struggle to believe this, but I don't personally know anyone who has the drive to kill. But maybe I don't surround myself with real men.

Saying that, I don't know any women with the drive to kill either. So, I don't knownif that supports your ever-changing point or not?

You chose the medical field? I thought you were in the army and performed better than all of the men. (Do you want to come back to this when you're sober?)

Incidentally, my GP is a man (who has never been a soldier or demonstrated the drive to kill). Does that mean he's not a real man? Or has he evolved beyond such basic gendered assumptions?

Could you perhaps summarise and explain the actual point you are making?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

My experience men are amazing .. the way they are.. why change ? Be you it's a society aspect that "tells" you what is and what is not right.

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Sorry 10 mistyped If you need to seey CAC card I can show privately."

Who's 10? Shit, this feels like a n*tfl*x series!

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"it's a society aspect that "tells" you what is and what is not right."

Completely agree. Well said.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

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"My experience men are amazing .. the way they are.. why change ? Be you it's a society aspect that "tells" you what is and what is not right."
ah no I was though by my parents when I was young to treat everyone equally

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Yet he has the drive to kill why is that.. I do not I chose the medical field not combat?

You may struggle to believe this, but I don't personally know anyone who has the drive to kill. But maybe I don't surround myself with real men.

Saying that, I don't know any women with the drive to kill either. So, I don't knownif that supports your ever-changing point or not?

You chose the medical field? I thought you were in the army and performed better than all of the men. (Do you want to come back to this when you're sober?)

Incidentally, my GP is a man (who has never been a soldier or demonstrated the drive to kill). Does that mean he's not a real man? Or has he evolved beyond such basic gendered assumptions?

Could you perhaps summarise and explain the actual point you are making? "
. Yet men more inclined to follow though to taking someone else's life than women. Why is that ? Our empathy is different.

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Yet men more inclined to follow though to taking someone else's life than women. Why is that ? Our empathy is different."

As I said, I don't know - personally - and men inclined to taking someone else's life. We must move in different crowds.

As for why you believe men are more inclined - despite *you* apparently having been in the military - you answered your own question:

'it's a society aspect that "tells" you what is and what is not right'

Well said. Question asked and answered.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Yet men more inclined to follow though to taking someone else's life than women. Why is that ? Our empathy is different.

As I said, I don't know - personally - and men inclined to taking someone else's life. We must move in different crowds.

As for why you believe men are more inclined - despite *you* apparently having been in the military - you answered your own question:

'it's a society aspect that "tells" you what is and what is not right'

Well said. Question asked and answered. "

Define society aspects

. Is the man the protector and the woman the empathetic person? It's a quagmire of what is and what isn't.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ?

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

Home

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? "
are you for real. Just leave it there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there. "

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

Home

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose."
im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

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By *tonMessCouple over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose."

Out of genuine interest....

Why do you carry? Who or what do you feel the need to be protected from? Do you honestly think you would use your weapon and under what circumstances?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread. "

Exactly you can't so move on.. again I ask why men.. I own ARs an AKs and other semi auto weapons.. why men show up at the majority of mass shootings. Ok it it inequality on machomism? Here ? Not saying euro you don't have that

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"'it's a society aspect that "tells" you what is and what is not right'

Well said. Question asked and answered.

Define society aspects."

I'm quoting You!

So, how about you tell me what 'society aspects' means, because I've never heard that phrase before.

Tbh, I'm going to duck out of this thread here (see, no inclination to kill or even win!) I would be happy to pick it up again when a) you can clarify what your actual point is, b) you are sober and c) I am confident you are not misrepresenting your gender.

I need to duck out because logic is clearly not your strong point and it's difficult to respond without coming across as mocking.

All the best.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"'it's a society aspect that "tells" you what is and what is not right'

Well said. Question asked and answered.

Define society aspects.

I'm quoting You!

So, how about you tell me what 'society aspects' means, because I've never heard that phrase before.

I need to duck out because logic is clearly not your strong point and it's difficult to respond without coming across as mocking.

All the best."

My logic is defined around my life experiences just like many others. People want to grasp the concept of others but don't want to listen..

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"I need to duck out because logic is clearly not your strong point and it's difficult to respond without coming across as mocking.

All the best."

"My logic is defined around my life experiences just like many others. People want to grasp the concept of others but don't want to listen.."

Please google logic.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.

Out of genuine interest....

Why do you carry? Who or what do you feel the need to be protected from? Do you honestly think you would use your weapon and under what circumstances?

I carry for my safety ..it's a simple poignant fact... It's a right that I choose. I do not trust anyone with my well being..it's just a everyday fact here.

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By *uscle88Man over a year ago

Potters Bar

I’m old school, can’t beat a proper geezer with the right old school values

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I’m old school, can’t beat a proper geezer with the right old school values "

Truth

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By *tonMessCouple over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.

Out of genuine interest....

Why do you carry? Who or what do you feel the need to be protected from? Do you honestly think you would use your weapon and under what circumstances?

I carry for my safety ..it's a simple poignant fact... It's a right that I choose. I do not trust anyone with my well being..it's just a everyday fact here. "

Safety from what?

Might there be a 'safer' way?

To perhaps take the guns away altogether?

Are you happy for that to be an everyday fact there?

How would you carrying a gun protect you or anyone else from a mass killing?

How often are you in danger of being shot going about your day to day life?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So you see we speak basically the same language...but totally indifferent on our values .love you all for the interaction..it had it's ups and downs .. peace

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By *uscle88Man over a year ago

Potters Bar

It’s either natural to you or it’s not as a man, if you are walking on the inside of the footpath when a lady is next to you there’s something wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It’s either natural to you or it’s not as a man, if you are walking on the inside of the footpath when a lady is next to you there’s something wrong. "
exactly you are the protection.

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"It’s either natural to you or it’s not as a man, if you are walking on the inside of the footpath when a lady is next to you there’s something wrong. exactly you are the protection."

But... you carry a gun?

Why is your king not protecting you?

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"It’s either natural to you or it’s not as a man, if you are walking on the inside of the footpath when a lady is next to you there’s something wrong. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m old school, with the right type of lady.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm still none the wiser about what is meant by old school here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still none the wiser about what is meant by old school here

We listen to 90s music, and ask girls to snog.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can be the same here too , some are real wet blankets

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still none the wiser about what is meant by old school here

We listen to 90s music, and ask girls to snog. "

I must be ahead of my time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just going to scooch over here and get comfy...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"...it's symantics I do.. dancing in kitchen.. just talking my exes was different beast.. sex..gaming and tv ..

Those words appear to be English, but put together in that order, they just make no sense.

Read it in Yoda’s voice

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still none the wiser about what is meant by old school here

We listen to 90s music, and ask girls to snog.

I must be ahead of my time

You’re the modern man. You listen to Ed Sheeran and swipe right!

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By *partharmonyCouple over a year ago

Ruislip

So what does being treated like a woman look like to you?

Dancing in the kitchen.. sitting by camp fires .. no internet no tv just us.. talking and enjoying one another's company.Not gaming watching TV and ignoring one another."

So engaging with you isn't treating you as equal but ignoring while playing computer games is? Confused.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Haven't read whole thread.

I think what the OP means is a gentleman.

Lot's of today's guy's have zero idea of how to act gentlemanly.

You can treat someone as an equal yet still be in a position to act charming and gentlemanly.

And done correctly with meaning without forcing it ,it's totally natural without being patronising.

Problem is lot's of women don't want this.

I remember coming out of a shop once and holding the door open for a woman who was behind us, she went nuts shouting at me about don't I think she's capable of operating a door and so on..... She's not a feeble bodied and minded female who can't open a door!!

I just let the door go in her face and walked off.

I'm a man, I want my wife to feel protected, loved and safe ,I want to put my arms around her and make her feel like nothing can harm her.

If other women don't like this attitude tough.

Everything we do,every decision is as a couple.

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

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By * and R cple4Couple over a year ago

swansea

"Hang on. We apparently have a 35 year old woman with 20 years military combat experience.

I think I've spotted something. Let me send one of my bitches for a calculator..."

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"...it's symantics I do.. dancing in kitchen.. just talking my exes was different beast.. sex..gaming and tv ..

Those words appear to be English, but put together in that order, they just make no sense.

I feel better now. I had tried and failed to understand that post. Am farting in the kitchen.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"Men well putting it bluntly being men.

The ridiculous notion of 'men being men' is incredibly unhelpful for men and wider society. It has serious ramifications.

And any man who is willing to treat you as less than an equal doesn't deserve your time.

Men have a different view.. factno we don't, everyone is equal in my eyes.

How so.. you have the ability to physically outperform a woman.. the inequality proves what again ?

I have no problem whatsoever with women being successful.

You seek the want to lump all men into a single category and pretend that they all think in exactly the same way.

I am delighted when the women in my life achieve success.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still none the wiser about what is meant by old school here

We listen to 90s music, and ask girls to snog.

I must be ahead of my time

You’re the modern man. You listen to Ed Sheeran and swipe right!

Swipe right??

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

. You are kings.

Are you basically saying that some blokes will be more useful than most women at protecting someone if a barroom fight kicks off?

Or what other forms of “protection” are you referring to?

I’m also confused about the term “old school”, as that can just as easily mean chivalry, respect, courtesy … but seems that you mean an asshole that doesn’t view women as equals.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

So you are simply saying that men are usually physically stronger than women?

True. But that has nothing to do with equality.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

What?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still none the wiser about what is meant by old school here

We listen to 90s music, and ask girls to snog.

I must be ahead of my time

You’re the modern man. You listen to Ed Sheeran and swipe right!

Swipe right??

Is it swipe left when you fancy someone on Tinder? I don’t know

*It was a joke about how today you ‘swipe’ to say you fancy somoeone, and I used to have to tell them to their face. That’s all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still none the wiser about what is meant by old school here

We listen to 90s music, and ask girls to snog.

I must be ahead of my time

You’re the modern man. You listen to Ed Sheeran and swipe right!

Swipe right??

Is it swipe left when you fancy someone on Tinder? I don’t know

*It was a joke about how today you ‘swipe’ to say you fancy somoeone, and I used to have to tell them to their face. That’s all.

Sorry matey, had no idea about the tinder thing

I think I preferred being knocked back/rejected to my face than online though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

im sure there are plenty of women out there who could pound you to pulp

to prove it ?

Imagine a BBW sitting on your "husband's" face.

Is he getting up? No he is not.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum"

That’s a terrible QED, I’m afraid. It suggests the woman is too heavy for the man to lift, not that a woman is stronger than a man because she would be able to lift the BBW off her.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"It's still a physical analysis.. men have superior advantage over a a woman.. it's facts unless a equal perception is involved.

im sure there are plenty of women out there who could pound you to pulp

to prove it ?

Imagine a BBW sitting on your "husband's" face.

Is he getting up? No he is not.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

That’s a terrible QED, I’m afraid. It suggests the woman is too heavy for the man to lift, not that a woman is stronger than a man because she would be able to lift the BBW off her."

Yeah, I’m struggling to see how a man’s ability to extricate himself from having a large woman sitting on his face proves anything significant in terms of equality.

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By *tarflyLouWoman over a year ago

Preston

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

What on earth do you feel you need to protect yourself from that you need an arsenal of semi-automatic weapons for?!

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

What on earth do you feel you need to protect yourself from that you need an arsenal of semi-automatic weapons for?!

If it’s that dangerous, move somewhere safer.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I didnt like school i prefer being self taught

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

What on earth do you feel you need to protect yourself from that you need an arsenal of semi-automatic weapons for?!

I must say I'm sat here at my home working desk, in suburban Greater Manchester, with no guns or anything more substantial than kitchen knives and I feel safe as houses. Okay, we do also have a geological hammer, but it was purchased for breaking rocks, not skulls!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

What on earth do you feel you need to protect yourself from that you need an arsenal of semi-automatic weapons for?!

This thread certainly morphed into a completely different topic

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

What on earth do you feel you need to protect yourself from that you need an arsenal of semi-automatic weapons for?!

This thread certainly morphed into a completely different topic

I tried it always goes off the rails

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

What on earth do you feel you need to protect yourself from that you need an arsenal of semi-automatic weapons for?!

This thread certainly morphed into a completely different topic

I tried it always goes off the rails

Seriously? You’re the one who started a thread opposing equality and turned it into a discussion about weapons.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Mass shootings are preformed here by whom men ...why is that? A form of machismo or a society that can't accept them as men ? are you for real. Just leave it there.

No everyone asks why

.I own weapons why is it always men..so tell me why the indifference on that point.. do I protect myself or trust every man I see

.. choices I think I should carry and not worry about the others agenda... Right to choose.im not wasting my time with a person who believes the shite you have wrote on this thread.

What on earth do you feel you need to protect yourself from that you need an arsenal of semi-automatic weapons for?!

This thread certainly morphed into a completely different topic

I tried it always goes off the rails

When ever I go through the forums and have a read, I realise that some people can read anything into a topic, put 2+2 together and make 5

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous. "

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all "

I was working.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

When ever I go through the forums and have a read, I realise that some people can read anything into a topic, put 2+2 together and make 5

I agree that happens, but in this case, the starting point was pretty far from 2+2...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I "

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

Obviously, you just say "terribly sorry, old chap/girl. Please leave my associate alone" and Bob's your uncle! No need to shoot them or hit them with a geological hammer

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When ever I go through the forums and have a read, I realise that some people can read anything into a topic, put 2+2 together and make 5

I agree that happens, but in this case, the starting point was pretty far from 2+2...

For sure it was!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

Obviously, you just say "terribly sorry, old chap/girl. Please leave my associate alone" and Bob's your uncle! No need to shoot them or hit them with a geological hammer

Need and want are 2 different things.

"I'm responsible for Mr Desiatos body, I'm not responsible for yours, so take it away before it gets damaged"

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon "

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

I still think a geological hammer would suffice..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

I still think a geological hammer would suffice.."

Not when you're lazy and have a gun

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some decent pictures there, OP.

If only you were closer.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

If the risk assessment for someone who “just wants to be left alone” requires the carrying of knuckle dusters, daggers and guns, then the correct risk assessment is to keep the person well away from their situation, as it clearly isn’t safe. You don’t knowingly go into a situation where such firepower and lowlife weapons are needed. This is starting to sound like fantasy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence. "

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit. "

Depends on the country.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

I mentioned not carrying them. In california they are illegal to carry but not own, in texas they are legal to own and carry. In the uk they are illegal to import, sell, carry or own. American armed security often carry weapons as back up to a firearm. So do american self defence types a lot of the time.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

You mentioned not carrying them? In your opening line, you said the exact opposite: “ last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles”. And then clarified that this was in California.

You then said it was illegal to carry knuckles in California. So you were carrying knuckles illegally? What about the “daggers”? Legal to carry not not?

Why would a security person need to carry a dagger?

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By *eavenscentitCouple over a year ago

barnstaple

"Yet he has the drive to kill why is that.. I do not I chose the medical field not combat?

You may struggle to believe this, but I don't personally know anyone who has the drive to kill. But maybe I don't surround myself with real men.

Saying that, I don't know any women with the drive to kill either. So, I don't knownif that supports your ever-changing point or not?

You chose the medical field? I thought you were in the army and performed better than all of the men. (Do you want to come back to this when you're sober?)

Incidentally, my GP is a man (who has never been a soldier or demonstrated the drive to kill). Does that mean he's not a real man? Or has he evolved beyond such basic gendered assumptions?

Could you perhaps summarise and explain the actual point you are making? . Yet men more inclined to follow though to taking someone else's life than women. Why is that ? Our empathy is different."

You never met my mother ! Zero empathetic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oofff you don't think women are equal to men? Why are we less, in your opinion?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

You then said it was illegal to carry knuckles in California. So you were carrying knuckles illegally? What about the “daggers”? Legal to carry not not?

Why would a security person need to carry a dagger? "

And it says apparently they were illegal so i left them in the office.

And i think it's perfectly obvious why you'd carry a knife and a gun.

Stop trying to get me to say i was breaking a law.

I've carried a knuckle duster in European countries.

I've carried an UZI, G3 and R1 (fn fal) in Africa but not all at the same time.

I've patroled private property in the States with those lousey AR15/CAR15s.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

You then said it was illegal to carry knuckles in California. So you were carrying knuckles illegally? What about the “daggers”? Legal to carry not not?

Why would a security person need to carry a dagger?

And it says apparently they were illegal so i left them in the office.

And i think it's perfectly obvious why you'd carry a knife and a gun.

Stop trying to get me to say i was breaking a law.

I've carried a knuckle duster in European countries.

I've carried an UZI, G3 and R1 (fn fal) in Africa but not all at the same time.

I've patroled private property in the States with those lousey AR15/CAR15s.

“Last time I was in the state’s car I carried … some knuckles”.

That isn’t true then?

And no, it is not obvious to me why a security person would carry a dagger, which is why I asked the question. I can understand a blunt instrument like a baton, but not a dagger.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Do you guys wanna get a room?

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By *vanabeusedTV/TS over a year ago

somewhere

It got whipped out of us and told it was toxic .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Do you guys wanna get a room?

I don't think he's my type

But i know I'm everybody's type

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

… so you didn’t carry knuckle dusters as you initially claimed?

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

You then said it was illegal to carry knuckles in California. So you were carrying knuckles illegally? What about the “daggers”? Legal to carry not not?

Why would a security person need to carry a dagger?

And it says apparently they were illegal so i left them in the office.

And i think it's perfectly obvious why you'd carry a knife and a gun.

Stop trying to get me to say i was breaking a law.

I've carried a knuckle duster in European countries.

I've carried an UZI, G3 and R1 (fn fal) in Africa but not all at the same time.

I've patroled private property in the States with those lousey AR15/CAR15s.

You keep ducking the questions about daggers. It is legal for security people to carry daggers in the US? I’m genuinely interested, I’m stunned to hear that.

And why would you need a lethal dagger rather than a blunt object like a baton?

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

. You are kings.

Yes!!

I like you.

Society has gotten rid of many good qualities and being a man.

Of course the illegal, extremes of male behaviour is not to be encouraged or tolerated but the shift has gone too far. We are different.

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

You then said it was illegal to carry knuckles in California. So you were carrying knuckles illegally? What about the “daggers”? Legal to carry not not?

Why would a security person need to carry a dagger?

And it says apparently they were illegal so i left them in the office.

And i think it's perfectly obvious why you'd carry a knife and a gun.

Stop trying to get me to say i was breaking a law.

I've carried a knuckle duster in European countries.

I've carried an UZI, G3 and R1 (fn fal) in Africa but not all at the same time.

I've patroled private property in the States with those lousey AR15/CAR15s.

You keep ducking the questions about daggers. It is legal for security people to carry daggers in the US? I’m genuinely interested, I’m stunned to hear that.

And why would you need a lethal dagger rather than a blunt object like a baton? "

As a backup to a firearm, it's already been said no?

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

You then said it was illegal to carry knuckles in California. So you were carrying knuckles illegally? What about the “daggers”? Legal to carry not not?

Why would a security person need to carry a dagger?

And it says apparently they were illegal so i left them in the office.

And i think it's perfectly obvious why you'd carry a knife and a gun.

Stop trying to get me to say i was breaking a law.

I've carried a knuckle duster in European countries.

I've carried an UZI, G3 and R1 (fn fal) in Africa but not all at the same time.

I've patroled private property in the States with those lousey AR15/CAR15s.

You keep ducking the questions about daggers. It is legal for security people to carry daggers in the US? I’m genuinely interested, I’m stunned to hear that.

And why would you need a lethal dagger rather than a blunt object like a baton?

As a backup to a firearm, it's already been said no? "

I have never read of a security person pulling and using a dagger in an altercation. Guns yes, batons, yes … daggers no, knuckle dusters, no.

Knives and knuckle dusters are the tools of criminals, not licensed security people

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it helps, last time i was in the states I carried a cz75 and fs dagger, and some knuckles, but apparently the brass wasn't legal so i left them at the office.

Like commando daggers and 9mms are fine but brass knuckles are sooooo dangerous.

I lived in the US for 5 years and somehow survived without any weapons at all

I was working.

So was I

I was working for someone who wanted to be left alone

… and you did this using daggers and knuckle dusters?

I was working with normal people in a big city. Never had a single situation where I felt I needed a weapon

Well if the risk assessment demands that's kinda how you carry. We did have soft armour, IFAK, Defib and some other bits and bobs too.

California is quite far from England

I know. I have been there many times. If someone can afford armed guards can they can also afford to simply avoid dangerous situations. First rule of self defence.

Ypu are aware there's this whole "security industry" with "licensing" and "training" and "residential security" and "close protection" so people can go out and about and do things.

A good close protection team is like the perfect date.

From your house, out, around, then back home again, in perfect saftey without hitch or incident.

… daggers and knuckle dusters? Doesn’t sound legit.

Depends on the country.

Security people are allowed to use daggers in the US?

You have already stated that you weren’t allowed to use knuckle dusters in the US. Why did you even mention them? Do you use them in the UK?

You then said it was illegal to carry knuckles in California. So you were carrying knuckles illegally? What about the “daggers”? Legal to carry not not?

Why would a security person need to carry a dagger?

And it says apparently they were illegal so i left them in the office.

And i think it's perfectly obvious why you'd carry a knife and a gun.

Stop trying to get me to say i was breaking a law.

I've carried a knuckle duster in European countries.

I've carried an UZI, G3 and R1 (fn fal) in Africa but not all at the same time.

I've patroled private property in the States with those lousey AR15/CAR15s.

You keep ducking the questions about daggers. It is legal for security people to carry daggers in the US? I’m genuinely interested, I’m stunned to hear that.

And why would you need a lethal dagger rather than a blunt object like a baton?

As a backup to a firearm, it's already been said no?

I have never read of a security person pulling and using a dagger in an altercation. Guns yes, batons, yes … daggers no, knuckle dusters, no.

Knives and knuckle dusters are the tools of criminals, not licensed security people "

OMG are you guys still going?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

. You are kings.

Yes!!

I like you.

Society has gotten rid of many good qualities and being a man.

Of course the illegal, extremes of male behaviour is not to be encouraged or tolerated but the shift has gone too far. We are different. "

Of course the sexes are different. No-one is denying that. The OP is saying women aren't equal to men though. What do you mean society has got rid of many good qualities?

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Thought someone had bumped a thread from 40 years ago for a minute!

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

. You are kings.

Yes!!

I like you.

Society has gotten rid of many good qualities and being a man.

Of course the illegal, extremes of male behaviour is not to be encouraged or tolerated but the shift has gone too far. We are different.

Of course the sexes are different. No-one is denying that. The OP is saying women aren't equal to men though. What do you mean society has got rid of many good qualities? "

Agreed. Equality does not mean all being the same.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"Thought someone had bumped a thread from 40 years ago for a minute!

Looks that way alright …

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Your comment that you "prefer being treated like a woman not a equal", seems troubling to me. Women are equal, even if you want to be treated as a woman, though it's uncertain what that means, from the OP. Equality is an essential right. Similarly, everyone should be treated with respect and other standard social values.

Sexually, you can engage as each partner agrees to. Set your ground rules clearly.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"‘Treated like a woman not a equal’ has actually sent me to the shops. Wow

Yup

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

If someone tried to treat me as not equal I'd kick them into touch sharpish. Probably touch circa 1950.

Different from the theatrics of chivalry. If someone carried on like that with me I would be desperately uncomfortable but polite, and ask them to desist in future. I recognise it can be well meaning

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

"‘Treated like a woman not a equal’ has actually sent me to the shops. Wow

Totty

what are they like

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