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over a year ago
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If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk. |
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I think the main difference is speed. I've been both private and NHS. I needed a knee op and the NHS said I may get an mri scan in 6 to 8 weeks. When I said I had private cover, I was in the scanner 2 days later and had my operation 2 weeks later. |
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk. "
I got mine done privately via work and my Doctors were fine. Could be a postcode thing.
I have private healthcare insurance OP. I have a long standing medical complaint with my legs and since diagnosis I have found them brilliant in terms of care after the many ops and wait times.
However when it all went wrong and I developed an infection it was the NHS that put me back together and they were awesome as well. |
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Better waiting times with private. Dont get fobbed off from one department to the next. A good combination is to pay to see a specialist who is then able to refer you for treatment on the NHS. This can bypass several years of nagging and begging your GP for a referral.
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I have only one experience really to compare it.
My dad had a dodgy knee. Took 4 weeks for GP appointment than 2 weeks for x ray appointment than another 3 weeks to see consultant which diagnosed him and said it needed to be operated on. Was than put on the 4 month waiting list for the operation.
He was in agony so decided to go private. Day after first phone call he was given an xray and diagnosed with the same as what NHS said and offered the surgery 2 days later.
So what could have taken over 6months on NHS took 4 days private. |
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"Better food in private and your own room.
Usually same surgeons that work in NHS.
If you needed emergency/critical/ lifesaving health care the NHS is the best.
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100% agreed |
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Depends entirely on the area. 30 years ago I fell climbing Malham cove, mountain rescue and an ambulance took me to hospital with a broken pelvis, smashed ribcage, flattened lung, fractured skull and a broken wrist. Police woke my parents and told them I probably wouldn't survive the night. A&E put me back together, put me in ITU for a few weeks, and basically saved my life. Private care would have been of no benefit whatsoever.
An old girlfriend damaged her hip ice skating. NHS couldn't work out what was wrong. After 10 years of investigation the only solution they could offer was a lifetime on opioid painkillers. Eventually she went to see a private surgeon who fixed her total cost about £20k, but she got her life back.
Different stories, but basically you just can't compare, it depends on the circumstances.
I also had green laser surgery on my enlarged prostate under the NHS, again could not have been better under private. Also several other visits to A&E for various briken bones. Basically I've had way more than my monies worth from the NHS  |
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I think it varies hugely, I’ve used private healthcare through work for diagnosis as it was there and easily accessible. Two instances for me & my family using nhs & surgery required.
Gallbladder surgery for me, from being diagnosed and surgery happening 6 weeks, a lot quicker than expected using nhs
For my son, diagnostic testing why he hadn’t put on an ounce of weight in 12 months, ending with a sleep apnea test via nhs in April. That following morning told he needed urgent surgery as stopped breathing four times in the first hour, she didn’t bother watching the rest of the tape. 4 weeks later I had heard nothing so got referred privately to ENT by GP based on the results on file and he had his surgery 7 days later. I eventually heard from the nhs in the December offering us a slot in the February.
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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago
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"Big difference is the waiting time. It's often the same Doctors or Specialists who work for both."
It's this 100% and sometimes you get a nicer/smaller clinic to attend rather than a main hospital.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"To be honest my experience has always been there is very little difference in the quality of care just the amount of time you wait. "
I'd say that's exactly right.
It just speeds up the process; if you're in a situation where time is of the essence.
The same fuck-ups happen though, things just generally happen quicker.
.. One department won't have your notes, because someone hasn't communicated with the other relevant department. This is happening right now to me & I'm chasing different medics to get them to send information to other people.
For a bit of background, I've had 2 spine surgeries, first one on the nhs which took about 2 years to have done. The 2nd surgery a few months ago, i had done within a few weeks of communicating with a consultant-only because i scraped savings together and went private..i couldn't wait 2 years this time as i was in so much pain i could barely breathe..the morphine, codeine,amytriptalline, tramadol, gabapentin ..(& cannabis oil i sourced illegally) wasn't even touching it.
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Biggest difference being ...We pay for it via NI and scary numbers of Americans go bankrupt due to medical costs ?? and the NHS will be yet another story we tell our children or grand children and if you want to see what hapens when things are sold off ..look at your power bills ?? more choice ?? lower bills ??? and reducuction in our tax's due to us not propping up them ?? |
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Level of care, not much both are great.
Food is better private.
Rooms and no crowding is better private.
Faster service private.
The NHS is a absolute gem. I do believe if your fortunate to afford private you should have it to lessen the strain on the nhs  |
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I’m sure everyone’s experiences are different but I had 9 years of hell with one of my children trying to get a diagnosis/ find out what was wrong/ prescribed incorrect meds, seeing specialists. In a last desperate attempt I paid to see a private consultant. Within one hour I had a diagnosis and new meds and life hasn’t been the same since that day. If I had to I’d sell my house to keep seeing them. Disgusting that it got to that after all those years but the best thing I ever did. So yes im saying private. |
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"Level of care, not much both are great.
Food is better private.
Rooms and no crowding is better private.
Faster service private.
The NHS is a absolute gem. I do believe if your fortunate to afford private you should have it to lessen the strain on the nhs "
I would love the option to opt out of paying fulling into the NHS and put that money into private health insurance.
Still pay some into NHS so that people that can’t pay still get medical care. |
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"I’m sure everyone’s experiences are different but I had 9 years of hell with one of my children trying to get a diagnosis/ find out what was wrong/ prescribed incorrect meds, seeing specialists. In a last desperate attempt I paid to see a private consultant. Within one hour I had a diagnosis and new meds and life hasn’t been the same since that day. If I had to I’d sell my house to keep seeing them. Disgusting that it got to that after all those years but the best thing I ever did. So yes im saying private. "
What a horrible experience but with a happy ending. Sadly parts of the NHS are atrocious but it's almost taboo among many to criticise. If we were more open about the failing bits then perhaps they'd be quicker to improve? |
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"I’m sure everyone’s experiences are different but I had 9 years of hell with one of my children trying to get a diagnosis/ find out what was wrong/ prescribed incorrect meds, seeing specialists. In a last desperate attempt I paid to see a private consultant. Within one hour I had a diagnosis and new meds and life hasn’t been the same since that day. If I had to I’d sell my house to keep seeing them. Disgusting that it got to that after all those years but the best thing I ever did. So yes im saying private.
What a horrible experience but with a happy ending. Sadly parts of the NHS are atrocious but it's almost taboo among many to criticise. If we were more open about the failing bits then perhaps they'd be quicker to improve?"
I’ll criticise. What we went through was disgusting. But like i said plenty of people have had good experiences. My nan (at 56) went to the doctors, was told she had a tummy bug and sent home. 2 hours later she was dead caused by a burst bowel. My best friend who was 28 had leaking nipples, she went to the doctor 4 times and was told it was normal at her age and after having children. At 30 she died of breast cancer. So no I have little faith. |
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk. "
Only just saw this. That’s not true. It is recognised x |
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"I’m sure everyone’s experiences are different but I had 9 years of hell with one of my children trying to get a diagnosis/ find out what was wrong/ prescribed incorrect meds, seeing specialists. In a last desperate attempt I paid to see a private consultant. Within one hour I had a diagnosis and new meds and life hasn’t been the same since that day. If I had to I’d sell my house to keep seeing them. Disgusting that it got to that after all those years but the best thing I ever did. So yes im saying private.
What a horrible experience but with a happy ending. Sadly parts of the NHS are atrocious but it's almost taboo among many to criticise. If we were more open about the failing bits then perhaps they'd be quicker to improve?
I’ll criticise. What we went through was disgusting. But like i said plenty of people have had good experiences. My nan (at 56) went to the doctors, was told she had a tummy bug and sent home. 2 hours later she was dead caused by a burst bowel. My best friend who was 28 had leaking nipples, she went to the doctor 4 times and was told it was normal at her age and after having children. At 30 she died of breast cancer. So no I have little faith. "
This is awful.
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk. "
I'm sure you wished that were the case. Of course it's recognised. |
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk.
Only just saw this. That’s not true. It is recognised x"
It depends where you get the diogenes from, there have been several cases where people have been turned down for PIP/DLA because the diogenes came from a private practitioner what wasn't recognised by the DWP. |
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk.
Only just saw this. That’s not true. It is recognised x
It depends where you get the diogenes from, there have been several cases where people have been turned down for PIP/DLA because the diogenes came from a private practitioner what wasn't recognised by the DWP."
Ah ok. Strange. Ours were recognised. Hadn’t heard that. |
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked "
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance. |
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance."
Coz fuck the NHS. I need to be on deaths door to get treatment. It doesn’t help me. I wanna completely pull my plug from it and instead put it into better private care. The systems not fit for use if your health isn’t well. |
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance.
Coz fuck the NHS. I need to be on deaths door to get treatment. It doesn’t help me. I wanna completely pull my plug from it and instead put it into better private care. The systems not fit for use if your health isn’t well. "
So if your in accident over the weekend you won't call 999 as the NHS is shite,
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance."
And don’t get me started on the welfare system. Amount of girls I knew that barely finished school, never had a job, now sitting in pretty 2 bed houses with a garden coz they had a kid. While the rest of us kill ourselves trying to get any mortgage we can |
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk.
Only just saw this. That’s not true. It is recognised x
It depends where you get the diogenes from, there have been several cases where people have been turned down for PIP/DLA because the diogenes came from a private practitioner what wasn't recognised by the DWP.
Ah ok. Strange. Ours were recognised. Hadn’t heard that. "
The problem is particularly with private mental health Councillors/ Therapists ect is There are currently no laws in the UK regarding counselling and psychotherapy. However guidelines recommend that, in order to practice, counsellors should have completed at least an appropriate diploma, or completed a course that was a minimum of 400 hours therapy training. They don't actually have to though so like I said I think it depends if its a recognised private provider like BUBA, the Priory ect.. |
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance.
And don’t get me started on the welfare system. Amount of girls I knew that barely finished school, never had a job, now sitting in pretty 2 bed houses with a garden coz they had a kid. While the rest of us kill ourselves trying to get any mortgage we can"
Has a, bad week |
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance.
Coz fuck the NHS. I need to be on deaths door to get treatment. It doesn’t help me. I wanna completely pull my plug from it and instead put it into better private care. The systems not fit for use if your health isn’t well.
So if your in accident over the weekend you won't call 999 as the NHS is shite,
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“On deaths door”
Yes I will. But when I tore my hip in rugby and had to wait nearly a year for an MRI to get told the NHS doesn’t cover fixing that and I’d need to just stop playing. It’s fucked |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk.
Only just saw this. That’s not true. It is recognised x
It depends where you get the diogenes from, there have been several cases where people have been turned down for PIP/DLA because the diogenes came from a private practitioner what wasn't recognised by the DWP.
Ah ok. Strange. Ours were recognised. Hadn’t heard that. "
Our friends' were too, for ADHD and autism. They saw a private GP who referred them to a private specialist. An appointment was made within a fortnight to begin assessing the children over a period of time. |
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance.
Coz fuck the NHS. I need to be on deaths door to get treatment. It doesn’t help me. I wanna completely pull my plug from it and instead put it into better private care. The systems not fit for use if your health isn’t well.
So if your in accident over the weekend you won't call 999 as the NHS is shite,
“On deaths door”
Yes I will. But when I tore my hip in rugby and had to wait nearly a year for an MRI to get told the NHS doesn’t cover fixing that and I’d need to just stop playing. It’s fucked "
Played rugby all my life always, had private cover as should all people who play sports,
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk.
Only just saw this. That’s not true. It is recognised x
It depends where you get the diogenes from, there have been several cases where people have been turned down for PIP/DLA because the diogenes came from a private practitioner what wasn't recognised by the DWP.
Ah ok. Strange. Ours were recognised. Hadn’t heard that.
The problem is particularly with private mental health Councillors/ Therapists ect is There are currently no laws in the UK regarding counselling and psychotherapy. However guidelines recommend that, in order to practice, counsellors should have completed at least an appropriate diploma, or completed a course that was a minimum of 400 hours therapy training. They don't actually have to though so like I said I think it depends if its a recognised private provider like BUBA, the Priory ect.."
Ah right. We went to the priory.
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance.
Coz fuck the NHS. I need to be on deaths door to get treatment. It doesn’t help me. I wanna completely pull my plug from it and instead put it into better private care. The systems not fit for use if your health isn’t well.
So if your in accident over the weekend you won't call 999 as the NHS is shite,
“On deaths door”
Yes I will. But when I tore my hip in rugby and had to wait nearly a year for an MRI to get told the NHS doesn’t cover fixing that and I’d need to just stop playing. It’s fucked
Played rugby all my life always, had private cover as should all people who play sports,
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Well lots of people feel the way I feel. Glad the NHS suits you. I feel it doesn’t serve me |
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk.
Only just saw this. That’s not true. It is recognised x
It depends where you get the diogenes from, there have been several cases where people have been turned down for PIP/DLA because the diogenes came from a private practitioner what wasn't recognised by the DWP.
Ah ok. Strange. Ours were recognised. Hadn’t heard that.
The problem is particularly with private mental health Councillors/ Therapists ect is There are currently no laws in the UK regarding counselling and psychotherapy. However guidelines recommend that, in order to practice, counsellors should have completed at least an appropriate diploma, or completed a course that was a minimum of 400 hours therapy training. They don't actually have to though so like I said I think it depends if its a recognised private provider like BUBA, the Priory ect..
Ah right. We went to the priory.
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That's what I mean and even on the autism uk website they do say it will only be recognised if the Practitioner follows certain certain rules and guidelines.
Technically there is nothing stopping Barbara up the road setting herself as an autism specialist Because she's done a 4 hour course online. |
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance.
Coz fuck the NHS. I need to be on deaths door to get treatment. It doesn’t help me. I wanna completely pull my plug from it and instead put it into better private care. The systems not fit for use if your health isn’t well.
So if your in accident over the weekend you won't call 999 as the NHS is shite,
“On deaths door”
Yes I will. But when I tore my hip in rugby and had to wait nearly a year for an MRI to get told the NHS doesn’t cover fixing that and I’d need to just stop playing. It’s fucked
Played rugby all my life always, had private cover as should all people who play sports,
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I think the point is if you can’t afford private cover. I have around £25 a month disposable income. I pay nearly £900 a month in tax and NI. If say £150 of that went to NHS i would like the option to reduce that so i could get private health care. £120 back to me that goes into private insurance. £30 to NHS so others that don’t pay anything still have a medical service. |
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"If I get a private diagnosis for ADHD I don’t think it’s recognised by everyone someone told me. They say the NHS is like the official one or something. Idk.
Only just saw this. That’s not true. It is recognised x
It depends where you get the diogenes from, there have been several cases where people have been turned down for PIP/DLA because the diogenes came from a private practitioner what wasn't recognised by the DWP.
Ah ok. Strange. Ours were recognised. Hadn’t heard that.
The problem is particularly with private mental health Councillors/ Therapists ect is There are currently no laws in the UK regarding counselling and psychotherapy. However guidelines recommend that, in order to practice, counsellors should have completed at least an appropriate diploma, or completed a course that was a minimum of 400 hours therapy training. They don't actually have to though so like I said I think it depends if its a recognised private provider like BUBA, the Priory ect..
Ah right. We went to the priory.
That's what I mean and even on the autism uk website they do say it will only be recognised if the Practitioner follows certain certain rules and guidelines.
Technically there is nothing stopping Barbara up the road setting herself as an autism specialist Because she's done a 4 hour course online. "
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"How big a difference is there really in the level and quality of care and things?
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Going back to the initial question..
Nhs... totally over stretched, lack of consultants, lack of experience nurses. The current/past staff give 110% daily, funding does restrict.
Private... mostly staff who work within the NHS getting paid more, quicker appointments, etc.
If anyone got diagnosed with cancer tomorrow or broke their leg then OUR NHS would be there looking after us.
So, is there much between it?
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Someone once said to me, and it stuck with me
The NHS is great for keeping you alive. For everything else it’s shit.
Car crash, sudden serious illness, freak accident, basically anything that might stop you working (and thus, paying tax) and the NHS is great. But for actually quality of life stuff, it’s really lacking |
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"If I could opt out of paying tax towards the NHS I’d go private. But I refuse to pay for both
Health is wealth and I find myself not bothering because the system is fucked
What about paying taxes to support the welfare system but not claiming any? Paying taxes for the school system but not sending your children to a state school?
Paying taxes for the NHS is part and parcel of it all. You can simply enhance your NHS cover with private health insurance. In an emergency, the NHS is there for you. The recovery can be private through your health insurance.
Coz fuck the NHS. I need to be on deaths door to get treatment. It doesn’t help me. I wanna completely pull my plug from it and instead put it into better private care. The systems not fit for use if your health isn’t well.
So if your in accident over the weekend you won't call 999 as the NHS is shite,
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Private hospitals in the UK don't have AED's so if something happens during your private operation you'll still go to the NHS AED. If you go to NHS AED with your private insurance you won't get preferential treatment you'll still be assessed on clinical need & have to wait your turn. There's good & bad experiences where ever you go, staff are doing the best they can with what they've got resource wise. If/when the NHS crumbles your investigations, operations, care etc will cost alot more than the insurance will pay out. |
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"Someone once said to me, and it stuck with me
The NHS is great for keeping you alive. For everything else it’s shit.
Car crash, sudden serious illness, freak accident, basically anything that might stop you working (and thus, paying tax) and the NHS is great. But for actually quality of life stuff, it’s really lacking "
This is largely true except for Cancer treatment where many NHS outcomes are well below comparable countries. |
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In terms of medical care, I don't think private or NHS are much different, apart from waiting times. In terms of holistic care, private wins hands down for me. I've had two major ops in my life, one in an NHS ward of 5 other men, all snored like buggery, whinged constantly and shouted into their phones all bloody day. The private hospital was large en-suite room that looked more like a bedroom with medical stuff in it. Few visiting restrictions, great food and great personal care. |
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Last year, my GP referred me to be seen by an Orthopaedic assessor for my Arthritic Keft Knee.
In turn, on Feb 1st, he referred me to a Private Hospital nearby which was doing NHS Surgery. They wrote me within a week, saw the consultant surgeon 2 weeks later, and my knee rebuild surgery planned for Sept 1st.
It went downhill from there. The Hospital Admin was in chaos. Completed Documents were lost; planned pre-op assessment appointments were cancelled without warning, but I'd to chase up new ones; Covid Test appointments were missed; 4 days before the Surgery, they realised that vital details, incl a Nedical History check list hadn't been completed; the list goes on.
Overall, the Op was cancelled as it was deemed dangerous for me to have it as it was their fault I'd not had the correct advice to prepare myself. A month later, the hospital called me to ask why I'd not shown up for my Surgery? No-one knew it had been cancelled (by them!).
My GP, has since told me of the "horror stories" emerging from that Private Hospital, part of a Major Group.
Even up to last month, that same Hospital emailed me to ask how I'm coping after my Op!?? Since then, my GP and the Pain Management team have been superb.
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I know a few things about this sector too and as for being a specialist….
Private V NHS…all I’ll say is this, when private goes wrong, guess who they naturally default back too haha. I shall leave it at that. |
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Had ops in both nhs intensive care was phenomenal
The ward and the food after horrendous .
The private rooms and food was fantastic and was my surgeon so private wins as I
Couldn’t eat or sleep in an nhs ward |
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"I think the point is if you can’t afford private cover. I have around £25 a month disposable income. I pay nearly £900 a month in tax and NI. If say £150 of that went to NHS i would like the option to reduce that so i could get private health care. £120 back to me that goes into private insurance. £30 to NHS so others that don’t pay anything still have a medical service. "
That's a good point. I know of at least one country that operates by a similar system.
Reputable international insurance companies, like Prudential, Aviva, etc are given a government mandate to offer cover for all of its citizens who must choose a lower (basic) or higher (optional extras) cover. The insurance premium is paid for through a 'personal' national insurance account that the government holds for every citizen. Any income earned by the citizen will have an automatic percentage deducted from the wage packet into the account.
You can opt to add even more cover with the insurance company, privately, to enhance the mandatory cover for enhanced private healthcare. |
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Speed. That is it.
You will get seen quicker, diagnosed quicker, treated quicker by going private.
The doctors/consultants/nurses can will will work for both private and NHS. Starting off private and being transferred to the equivalent NHS clinic happens too, you effectively pay to queue jump.
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"Speed. That is it.
You will get seen quicker, diagnosed quicker, treated quicker by going private.
The doctors/consultants/nurses can will will work for both private and NHS. Starting off private and being transferred to the equivalent NHS clinic happens too, you effectively pay to queue jump.
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This. In fact my mum has worked at places that did both NHS and private lists. Everything else was exactly the same except the time on the waiting list and the private patients got fancy biscuits . |
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Had hip replaced with AXA through work and the consultant did the operation and recovered for 5 days in a private room.Had circumcision NHS and it was a junior doctor who did the op both did a good job but would rather have the consultant than his apprentice for a major op |
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"Speed. That is it.
You will get seen quicker, diagnosed quicker, treated quicker by going private.
The doctors/consultants/nurses can will will work for both private and NHS. Starting off private and being transferred to the equivalent NHS clinic happens too, you effectively pay to queue jump.
This. In fact my mum has worked at places that did both NHS and private lists. Everything else was exactly the same except the time on the waiting list and the private patients got fancy biscuits ."
Funnily enough I've just met a lady that works for Spire and she mentioned the fancier biscuits too |
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It’s a huge difference, I am lucky & only use private and can see any specialist usually within 24hrs.
I use virtual docs & any referral or prescription is given within 2 hours of logging it.
Minor procedures/ outpatient appointments within a few days and the best advice / options / drugs.
On bloods you full detailed analysis and advice rather than the nhs default - borderline/no action required which I’m told is automated for most things.
MRI Scams can be ordered within a few days, unlimited physio and sports massage and alternative therapy as long as they are properly qualified are all unlimited. Dental and optical have limits of $1000 a year each
When I do visit hospitals like spire there’s no waiting and good coffee and wife , but more importantly they treat you like valued customers going out of there way to get what you need |
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Depends who and where you are. Lots of evidence and research to show the NHS works better for some people over others unfortunately.
We all love the NHS but this shouldn’t mean it is above any criticism because they are underfunded or because of covid backlog. Some problems in the NHS have nothing to do with funding or covid backlogs. |
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"Depends who and where you are. Lots of evidence and research to show the NHS works better for some people over others unfortunately.
We all love the NHS but this shouldn’t mean it is above any criticism because they are underfunded or because of covid backlog. Some problems in the NHS have nothing to do with funding or covid backlogs."
The NHS is not underfunded, The money is not used cost effectively in my opinion. Too many managers and not enough front line staff front line staff I think is the biggest issue, along with a lot of waste. |
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"Better food in private and your own room.
Usually same surgeons that work in NHS.
If you needed emergency/critical/ lifesaving health care the NHS is the best.
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I think it's the ONLY option in those circumstances. Private hospitals, as I understand it, have no provision for emergency treatment.
Having had an adverse reaction to medication during private treatment, the amusing thing was (well, as amusing and things can be while anaphylaxis progresses) that a very noticeable amount of time spent by the staff was devoted to working out if my insurer would pay for me to be admitted and treated for the reaction to the drug they administered.
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"Depends who and where you are. Lots of evidence and research to show the NHS works better for some people over others unfortunately.
We all love the NHS but this shouldn’t mean it is above any criticism because they are underfunded or because of covid backlog. Some problems in the NHS have nothing to do with funding or covid backlogs.
The NHS is not underfunded, The money is not used cost effectively in my opinion. Too many managers and not enough front line staff front line staff I think is the biggest issue, along with a lot of waste. "
The NHS in real terms was underfunded by the Tories failed austerity policy . On average between 2009 and 2019, budgets rose by 1.9% compared to 3.7% since the NHS was established.
When we deal in facts we can see the real story. Can there be savings and efficiencies made ! Yes absolutely. But that’s a different question to what was asked . |
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"Depends who and where you are. Lots of evidence and research to show the NHS works better for some people over others unfortunately.
We all love the NHS but this shouldn’t mean it is above any criticism because they are underfunded or because of covid backlog. Some problems in the NHS have nothing to do with funding or covid backlogs.
The NHS is not underfunded, The money is not used cost effectively in my opinion. Too many managers and not enough front line staff front line staff I think is the biggest issue, along with a lot of waste.
The NHS in real terms was underfunded by the Tories failed austerity policy . On average between 2009 and 2019, budgets rose by 1.9% compared to 3.7% since the NHS was established.
When we deal in facts we can see the real story. Can there be savings and efficiencies made ! Yes absolutely. But that’s a different question to what was asked . "
What does incompetent staff have to do with underfunding? You can have all the money in the world and still have incompetent staff. You can have highly paid incompetent professors and consultants working for the NHS too.
What does recent research and evidence that the NHS is riddled with racism have to do with your point about underfunding?
What about certain populations and health issues that the NHS make political choices not to help with…women who have pain are not believed. And trans healthcare is insanely bad. Recent covid death rates higher among BAME populations too.
I get it though people in the UK love the NHS and refuse to criticise it at all. |
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I prefer a mix of both.
I go private if I need to see a specialist urgently, otherwise I’ll use the NHS for emergencies / GP services (can see or call one face to face more or less same day through NHS).
To break it down though, private is expensive if you don’t have a high level of income or private insurance, one of my private examination broke down as follows;
Initial consultation; £150
MRI Scan - £499
Nasal Endoscopy - £150
Hospital Room - £99
Final Consultation - £150
Total: £1,048.
All paid out for by myself with zero private medical insurance. There’s some things the NHS are brilliant for, but they’re under extreme pressure so private is the viable option.
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