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"Let them decide their own laws. We should worry about the terrible knife crime in UK, especially in parts of London." I totally agree not really are problem but as a side thing is it about time we say to America change or are special arrangements will cease ue no more help put pressure on trade something as to be done but Americans are that dumb a life is worth less than a bullet. | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. " Computer games?!? Are we still travelling that road?!?  | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. Computer games?!? Are we still travelling that road?!? "Kids these days with their dancing and gramophones out there doin' the crime *shakes walking stick* | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. " I was playing computer games from a very young age including the first gta, I've never even been cautioned 
Don't use computer games as being a reason, that's just sad
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. I was playing computer games from a very young age including the first gta, I've never even been cautioned
Don't use computer games as being a reason, that's just sad
I've also watched horror since I was young, not been on stabbing fest or anything yet "Well I dressed up as a xenomorph and bit someone's head off so it can happen. Blaming music, games and films is the old fallback, from Dee Snider defending himself in court to when Mortal Kombat came out. | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. I was playing computer games from a very young age including the first gta, I've never even been cautioned
Don't use computer games as being a reason, that's just sad
I've also watched horror since I was young, not been on stabbing fest or anything yet
Well I dressed up as a xenomorph and bit someone's head off so it can happen.
Blaming music, games and films is the old fallback, from Dee Snider defending himself in court to when Mortal Kombat came out. "That can happen
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. " Don't be blaming games. The same games are played around the world, yet most places don't have the gun issues America has. Games are a scapegoat. The same as rock music and the movies once were. The issue is their gun policy and massive government funding from the gun loving advocates. | |||
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"Anyone around my age probably owned manhunt on the PlayStation. It was one of the most violent games ever made and guess what? None of us re-enacted anything from that game." I remember playing those games, classics | |||
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"Texas is sooooo pro life, that a woman can't get a termination even if it will kill her to give birth, but once it's out, the right to bear arms tops the right to a safe life..." If you're pre born you're fine, if you're preschool you're fucked | |||
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"Anyone around my age probably owned manhunt on the PlayStation. It was one of the most violent games ever made and guess what? None of us re-enacted anything from that game. I remember playing those games, classics " I think we got a copy after it was banned. Disturbingly violent. | |||
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"If you're pre born you're fine, if you're preschool you're fucked" Yep, I have some very strong views on this gun "situation" but I will stop at "Yep" | |||
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"If computer games were to blame my generation would have been running around munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. Oh wait! " And flying spacecraft, and shooting giant insects. It's almost as if it doesn't really impact real life for most people... | |||
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"Anyone around my age probably owned manhunt on the PlayStation. It was one of the most violent games ever made and guess what? None of us re-enacted anything from that game. I remember playing those games, classics I think we got a copy after it was banned. Disturbingly violent. " Really brutal, there was talk of a remake not long ago | |||
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"Mass shootings are the reason they still have guns. Hun sales actually go UP after them. The media scares the populace into thinking they need a gun to defend themselves from the bad guys with guns. It’s fine us looking in from the outside and saying guns are bad, but it’ll never change with how brainwashed they are to their right to bear arms! The stories I hate hearing about most are those with children getting hold of an improperly stored gun and shooting theirselves or a sibling. It’s heartbreaking and I do my best to avoid them! "   | |||
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"Yes, but there will never be anything done, 5th amendment, gun control, I get pistols, hunting rifles, but military grade arm absolutely no need to be sold, I worked in US, and seen AR15 50cal rifles for sale its, crazy " 5th amendment? | |||
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"Are you like think it time they got their acts together and did some thing about it " the right to bear arms was to protect the citizens from their own goverment...could do with that here..???..but what has happened is beyond any understanding.?? | |||
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"Absolutely shocking what's happened yet again, unfortunately nothing will change and there will be yet another no doubt next week if not before " Sooner than next week, probably. There is more than one mass shooting per day in the US. | |||
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"Blanket statements such as, “They are brainwashed “ or “They’d all rather see a child die then give up they’re guns” are false and offending. Currently the NRA is the largest organization to lobby for gun rights. With a $250 million per year budget, they line the pockets of politicians to vote against any new legislation that make changes to current gun laws. And with over 5 million members, any changes we as voters want/demand are quickly squashed at the voting booth. Changes MUST be made to the current laws. Mass shootings should never happen. Columbine, Sandyhook, Parkland, and Uvalde should never have happened. 198 mass shootings in 2022 should never have happened.There is absolutely no need for a private citizen to own an AR15 !! Until those politicians who are being bought by the NRA and other gun lobbies are voted out of office, change will be difficult and outcry from voters, such as myself, will fall on deaf ears. I am one very tiny cog in a giant, well oiled, political machine but many tiny voices together speak volumes and our voices will not be silenced. This violence must stop and will stop because the voices of voters will not be silenced. No parent should be afraid to send they’re child to school or go to a cinema or a mall or even go to work. I am sickened and heartbroken by this violence and it must stop now!! So please, before you lump every citizen into a group of gun loving child killers, think about what your going to say.
"Totally agree, it's difficult sometimes to remember that yours is a country of many many millions and that of course people are all different - part of the problem of "only seeing what we're shown" or somesuch like that. Really hope things do change for the better! | |||
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"Mass murderers in the US gain infamy. One day, lost, a nobody, nothing, the next, no one will ever forget them. Maybe the US needs to stop people from falling through the cracks… because lost people who get hold of guns always ends up like this. And if you take away the gun they’ll do the same with a bomb or a knife or an axe or a hammer…" So no concept of personal responsibility then? | |||
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"Are you like think it time they got their acts together and did some thing about it " NEVER going to happen sadly | |||
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"Blanket statements such as, “They are brainwashed “ or “They’d all rather see a child die then give up they’re guns” are false and offending. Currently the NRA is the largest organization to lobby for gun rights. With a $250 million per year budget, they line the pockets of politicians to vote against any new legislation that make changes to current gun laws. And with over 5 million members, any changes we as voters want/demand are quickly squashed at the voting booth. Changes MUST be made to the current laws. Mass shootings should never happen. Columbine, Sandyhook, Parkland, and Uvalde should never have happened. 198 mass shootings in 2022 should never have happened.There is absolutely no need for a private citizen to own an AR15 !! Until those politicians who are being bought by the NRA and other gun lobbies are voted out of office, change will be difficult and outcry from voters, such as myself, will fall on deaf ears. I am one very tiny cog in a giant, well oiled, political machine but many tiny voices together speak volumes and our voices will not be silenced. This violence must stop and will stop because the voices of voters will not be silenced. No parent should be afraid to send they’re child to school or go to a cinema or a mall or even go to work. I am sickened and heartbroken by this violence and it must stop now!! So please, before you lump every citizen into a group of gun loving child killers, think about what your going to say.
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"They’re not going to change anything. If one was going to be the tipping point it would have been Sandy Hook. If the first one ever wasn’t enough and then that wasn’t enough then nothing is ever going to be enough. Ted Cruz is already going on about personal rights to bear arms and they’ve not even identified all the dead children yet. " Yet he is up in arms about you trying to abort an unborn fetus and wants you to face the death penalty for it | |||
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"Blanket statements such as, “They are brainwashed “ or “They’d all rather see a child die then give up they’re guns” are false and offending. Currently the NRA is the largest organization to lobby for gun rights. With a $250 million per year budget, they line the pockets of politicians to vote against any new legislation that make changes to current gun laws. And with over 5 million members, any changes we as voters want/demand are quickly squashed at the voting booth. Changes MUST be made to the current laws. Mass shootings should never happen. Columbine, Sandyhook, Parkland, and Uvalde should never have happened. 198 mass shootings in 2022 should never have happened.There is absolutely no need for a private citizen to own an AR15 !! Until those politicians who are being bought by the NRA and other gun lobbies are voted out of office, change will be difficult and outcry from voters, such as myself, will fall on deaf ears. I am one very tiny cog in a giant, well oiled, political machine but many tiny voices together speak volumes and our voices will not be silenced. This violence must stop and will stop because the voices of voters will not be silenced. No parent should be afraid to send they’re child to school or go to a cinema or a mall or even go to work. I am sickened and heartbroken by this violence and it must stop now!! So please, before you lump every citizen into a group of gun loving child killers, think about what your going to say.
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"Anyone around my age probably owned manhunt on the PlayStation. It was one of the most violent games ever made and guess what? None of us re-enacted anything from that game. I remember playing those games, classics I think we got a copy after it was banned. Disturbingly violent. Really brutal, there was talk of a remake not long ago " I’m not gonna lie. I’d probably still buy it  | |||
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"Anyone around my age probably owned manhunt on the PlayStation. It was one of the most violent games ever made and guess what? None of us re-enacted anything from that game. I remember playing those games, classics I think we got a copy after it was banned. Disturbingly violent. Really brutal, there was talk of a remake not long ago I’m not gonna lie. I’d probably still buy it "Wasn't it banned then unbanned and came out again just before the sequel game? If you played the sequel with earphones you had simulated voices in your ear.  | |||
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"Anyone around my age probably owned manhunt on the PlayStation. It was one of the most violent games ever made and guess what? None of us re-enacted anything from that game. I remember playing those games, classics I think we got a copy after it was banned. Disturbingly violent. Really brutal, there was talk of a remake not long ago I’m not gonna lie. I’d probably still buy it "I'd get it as well | |||
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"Anyone around my age probably owned manhunt on the PlayStation. It was one of the most violent games ever made and guess what? None of us re-enacted anything from that game. I remember playing those games, classics I think we got a copy after it was banned. Disturbingly violent. Really brutal, there was talk of a remake not long ago I’m not gonna lie. I’d probably still buy it
Wasn't it banned then unbanned and came out again just before the sequel game?
If you played the sequel with earphones you had simulated voices in your ear. "I think the removed some bits before it was released again | |||
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"Anyone around my age probably owned manhunt on the PlayStation. It was one of the most violent games ever made and guess what? None of us re-enacted anything from that game. I remember playing those games, classics I think we got a copy after it was banned. Disturbingly violent. Really brutal, there was talk of a remake not long ago I’m not gonna lie. I’d probably still buy it
Wasn't it banned then unbanned and came out again just before the sequel game?
If you played the sequel with earphones you had simulated voices in your ear.
I think the removed some bits before it was released again "I know loads of people wanted to buy my pre ban version of the game. | |||
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"Are you like think it time they got their acts together and did some thing about it " Government faults allowing every one to carry a gun the fucking numptoids | |||
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"The lax attitude and regulations around guns in america are just the enabling factor to a much deeper problem of constitution and culture that teaches by repetition that America is the greatest country on earth, enjoys the most freedom, are the bravest, enjoys the greatest meritocracy etc etc. It's a system that spits out people who have 'failed' despite being told heir whole lives they've been born with every advantage life could possibly convey, and when the individuals harbouring the most violent and deep-rooted frustration and impotence look for an outlet, lo and behold there is a gunshop, and there is a gun that the constituon has enshrined that it is their right to own, carry and bear to be their tool to punisu those who have curtailed their freedoms. America will never change. We've been hearing the same outpouring of anger, sadness, 'enough is enough' after every mass shooting going back decades and decades." I think that lessons need not be contained to just the Americans - a sense of entitlement, individualism, pretending that people now are glorious, because of the glory of their ancestors. We all need to strive, together, not bask in unearned glory, lest we all find ourselves sinking into mediocrity and even chaos. | |||
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"Sales of guns in the US went up when Covid struck.. it's a big country. Only the isolated incidents get highlighted.. If it were legal then Tom would carry a gun.. " Insensitive and unnecessary statement Tom. Why do you want to carry a gun,to protect yourself against what exactly? | |||
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"Sales of guns in the US went up when Covid struck.. it's a big country. Only the isolated incidents get highlighted.. If it were legal then Tom would carry a gun.. Insensitive and unnecessary statement Tom. Why do you want to carry a gun,to protect yourself against what exactly? " monkey pox or sharks my guess | |||
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"Sales of guns in the US went up when Covid struck.. it's a big country. Only the isolated incidents get highlighted.. If it were legal then Tom would carry a gun.. Insensitive and unnecessary statement Tom. Why do you want to carry a gun,to protect yourself against what exactly? " Insensitive ? For protection of course... If someone pulls a knife then you pull a gun...it's for protection.. simples.. | |||
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"Sales of guns in the US went up when Covid struck.. it's a big country. Only the isolated incidents get highlighted.. If it were legal then Tom would carry a gun.. Insensitive and unnecessary statement Tom. Why do you want to carry a gun,to protect yourself against what exactly? Insensitive ? For protection of course... If someone pulls a knife then you pull a gun...it's for protection.. simples.. " If you cannot understand why making that statement on this thread is insensitive then perhaps you should read the news again and look at the pictures of the poor innocent angel's killed unnecessarily yesterday by someone with a gun. | |||
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"200 mass shootings in the US so far THIS YEAR alone and not 1 thing will change on gun control ..in fact everytime there is such an atrocity gun and ammunition sales rocket ... the NRA are too big and almost single handedly control who becomes president and what bills get passed or binned, so the powers that be can say what they like but are powerless to change anything without the backing of NRA ..which wont be forth coming as they do not believe guns are the problem but mental health is which is baffling why they are against tougher background checks " Joe Biden on the radio spoke of his outrage of this latest shooting he lost personally two youngsters too such a crime.. Its a sad state of affairs (no pun Intended) | |||
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"200 mass shootings in the US so far THIS YEAR alone and not 1 thing will change on gun control ..in fact everytime there is such an atrocity gun and ammunition sales rocket ... the NRA are too big and almost single handedly control who becomes president and what bills get passed or binned, so the powers that be can say what they like but are powerless to change anything without the backing of NRA ..which wont be forth coming as they do not believe guns are the problem but mental health is which is baffling why they are against tougher background checks Joe Biden on the radio spoke of his outrage of this latest shooting he lost personally two youngsters too such a crime.. Its a sad state of affairs (no pun Intended) " Oh i do believe presidents past and present do want to change things and not just saying what people want to hear ..its just that they really are powerless to do anything | |||
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"200 mass shootings in the US so far THIS YEAR alone and not 1 thing will change on gun control ..in fact everytime there is such an atrocity gun and ammunition sales rocket ... the NRA are too big and almost single handedly control who becomes president and what bills get passed or binned, so the powers that be can say what they like but are powerless to change anything without the backing of NRA ..which wont be forth coming as they do not believe guns are the problem but mental health is which is baffling why they are against tougher background checks Joe Biden on the radio spoke of his outrage of this latest shooting he lost personally two youngsters too such a crime.. Its a sad state of affairs (no pun Intended) Oh i do believe presidents past and present do want to change things and not just saying what people want to hear ..its just that they really are powerless to do anything " yeah the ones who can change the law are the Republicans & Democrats but they can’t agree there needs to be a certain number of votes from each (party) for a law to be changed I really hope they can get there heads together & change it… it really needs to stop enough is enough now! | |||
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"Sales of guns in the US went up when Covid struck.. it's a big country. Only the isolated incidents get highlighted.. If it were legal then Tom would carry a gun.. Insensitive and unnecessary statement Tom. Why do you want to carry a gun,to protect yourself against what exactly? Insensitive ? For protection of course... If someone pulls a knife then you pull a gun...it's for protection.. simples.. If you cannot understand why making that statement on this thread is insensitive then perhaps you should read the news again and look at the pictures of the poor innocent angel's killed unnecessarily yesterday by someone with a gun." And guns also protect the innocent ... | |||
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"Blanket statements such as, “They are brainwashed “ or “They’d all rather see a child die then give up they’re guns” are false and offending. Currently the NRA is the largest organization to lobby for gun rights. With a $250 million per year budget, they line the pockets of politicians to vote against any new legislation that make changes to current gun laws. And with over 5 million members, any changes we as voters want/demand are quickly squashed at the voting booth. Changes MUST be made to the current laws. Mass shootings should never happen. Columbine, Sandyhook, Parkland, and Uvalde should never have happened. 198 mass shootings in 2022 should never have happened.There is absolutely no need for a private citizen to own an AR15 !! Until those politicians who are being bought by the NRA and other gun lobbies are voted out of office, change will be difficult and outcry from voters, such as myself, will fall on deaf ears. I am one very tiny cog in a giant, well oiled, political machine but many tiny voices together speak volumes and our voices will not be silenced. This violence must stop and will stop because the voices of voters will not be silenced. No parent should be afraid to send they’re child to school or go to a cinema or a mall or even go to work. I am sickened and heartbroken by this violence and it must stop now!! So please, before you lump every citizen into a group of gun loving child killers, think about what your going to say.
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"Yes, but there will never be anything done, 5th amendment, gun control, I get pistols, hunting rifles, but military grade arm absolutely no need to be sold, I worked in US, and seen AR15 50cal rifles for sale its, crazy 5th amendment? " 2nd typo | |||
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" America will never change. We've been hearing the same outpouring of anger, sadness, 'enough is enough' after every mass shooting going back decades and decades. I think that lessons need not be contained to just the Americans - a sense of entitlement, individualism, pretending that people now are glorious, because of the glory of their ancestors. We all need to strive, together, not bask in unearned glory, lest we all find ourselves sinking into mediocrity and even chaos." I like this. Mr | |||
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"Don't no why people use computer games as the issue I play grand theft auto and kill hundreds of people in the game.I'd never dream of doing it in real life for real.games are games. sick scumbags who go out and kill for real are scumbags.only people who should carry guns are the police and army..R.I.P. to all those innocent angels who lost there life yesterday and to the scumbag who did it ROT in hell" Saying that you/people you know haven't been affected by playing violent games so they cannot have affected anyone makes absolutely no sense. Millions of people do stuff every day that occasionally kills a few individuals and yet get away with it but that doesn't mean the act is not a potential cause of death. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe that computer games are a particularly relevant casual factor but I don't believe they can be dismissed on the basis of "I'm alright so they can't be bad" Equally, while I am convinced gun regulation is an essential part of dealing with this issue, I don't believe it is the panacea we may want it to be. The US isn't the only country to have high gun ownership rates but it is a significant outlier in terms of mass shootings suggesting there is more than just gun ownership that needs looking at. I think Swing has hit pretty close to the mark with the comment I replied to above, the national psyche of the US is (I believe) a big part in this equation - it is after all the only thing that is unique about US citizens. Again, I will no doubt get people saying "I believe in the American dream" and haven't killed anyone" and my answer is the same as with video games - just because something hasn't had a given effect on you it doesn't mean it cannot have that effect on anyone. Mr | |||
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"I think the problem runs much deeper than guns. Guns are just a scapegoat. It’s easy to blame the gun for killing people , but forget about the troubled and unhinged mind that plans mass murder and then carries out the fantasy. Guns are just the chosen medium to carry out their murderous plan. There are other ways to mass murder if guns weren’t available. Why are there so many people in the USA who are prepared to carry out these atrocities? As said in the previous thread, other countries that have high gun ownership don’t suffer the same mass shootings. Why only in America? " Because there is little or no background checks done before issuing of licenses and purchases of firearms  | |||
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"I think the problem runs much deeper than guns. Guns are just a scapegoat. It’s easy to blame the gun for killing people , but forget about the troubled and unhinged mind that plans mass murder and then carries out the fantasy. Guns are just the chosen medium to carry out their murderous plan. There are other ways to mass murder if guns weren’t available. Why are there so many people in the USA who are prepared to carry out these atrocities? As said in the previous thread, other countries that have high gun ownership don’t suffer the same mass shootings. Why only in America? Because there is little or no background checks done before issuing of licenses and purchases of firearms "But why if Switzerland has 90% gun ownership and not the equivalent mass shootings? It’s a genuine question that needs looking at. Why only Americans? | |||
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"I think the problem runs much deeper than guns. Guns are just a scapegoat. It’s easy to blame the gun for killing people , but forget about the troubled and unhinged mind that plans mass murder and then carries out the fantasy. Guns are just the chosen medium to carry out their murderous plan. There are other ways to mass murder if guns weren’t available. Why are there so many people in the USA who are prepared to carry out these atrocities? As said in the previous thread, other countries that have high gun ownership don’t suffer the same mass shootings. Why only in America? Because there is little or no background checks done before issuing of licenses and purchases of firearms
But why if Switzerland has 90% gun ownership and not the equivalent mass shootings?
It’s a genuine question that needs looking at. Why only Americans?"Unlike the US, Switzerland has mandatory military service for men. All men between the ages of 18 and 34 deemed "fit for service" are given a pistol or a rifle and trained. After they've finished their service, the men can typically buy and keep their service weapons, but they have to get a permit for them. | |||
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"I think the problem runs much deeper than guns. Guns are just a scapegoat. It’s easy to blame the gun for killing people , but forget about the troubled and unhinged mind that plans mass murder and then carries out the fantasy. Guns are just the chosen medium to carry out their murderous plan. There are other ways to mass murder if guns weren’t available. Why are there so many people in the USA who are prepared to carry out these atrocities? As said in the previous thread, other countries that have high gun ownership don’t suffer the same mass shootings. Why only in America? Because there is little or no background checks done before issuing of licenses and purchases of firearms
But why if Switzerland has 90% gun ownership and not the equivalent mass shootings?
It’s a genuine question that needs looking at. Why only Americans?"Well first off USA gun ownership is way way over 90% - also look at who owns the guns, who’s allowed to buy guns, the type of guns you can buy then look at other psycho social issues such as poor MH healthcare facilities.. urban deprivation and you have a perfect storm. It’s telling that in Texas they have just made abortion illegal (or are on the cusp of doing so) you can’t buy cigarettes or alcohol until you are 21. But you can buy a semi automatic assault rifle at 18 with minimal (or no) Id checks.. No other country even comes close to gun ownership in terms of pure numbers or by capita.. | |||
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"91 per cent of children killed by guns globally, are killed in USA. " And since 2001 more people have been shot dead by children than by terrorists | |||
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"I think the problem runs much deeper than guns. Guns are just a scapegoat. It’s easy to blame the gun for killing people , but forget about the troubled and unhinged mind that plans mass murder and then carries out the fantasy. Guns are just the chosen medium to carry out their murderous plan. There are other ways to mass murder if guns weren’t available. Why are there so many people in the USA who are prepared to carry out these atrocities? As said in the previous thread, other countries that have high gun ownership don’t suffer the same mass shootings. Why only in America? Because there is little or no background checks done before issuing of licenses and purchases of firearms
But why if Switzerland has 90% gun ownership and not the equivalent mass shootings?
It’s a genuine question that needs looking at. Why only Americans?
Well first off USA gun ownership is way way over 90% - also look at who owns the guns, who’s allowed to buy guns, the type of guns you can buy then look at other psycho social issues such as poor MH healthcare facilities.. urban deprivation and you have a perfect storm.
It’s telling that in Texas they have just made abortion illegal (or are on the cusp of doing so) you can’t buy cigarettes or alcohol until you are 21. But you can buy a semi automatic assault rifle at 18 with minimal (or no) Id checks..
No other country even comes close to gun ownership in terms of pure numbers or by capita.. "So the problem isn’t guns & gun owners worldwide, just Americans. What drives someone to go out and murder multiple anonymous innocent people. It’s clearly a mental health issue. | |||
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"Texas is sooooo pro life, that a woman can't get a termination even if it will kill her to give birth, but once it's out, the right to bear arms tops the right to a safe life... If you're pre born you're fine, if you're preschool you're fucked" George Carlin...right? | |||
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"I think the problem runs much deeper than guns. Guns are just a scapegoat. It’s easy to blame the gun for killing people , but forget about the troubled and unhinged mind that plans mass murder and then carries out the fantasy. Guns are just the chosen medium to carry out their murderous plan. There are other ways to mass murder if guns weren’t available. Why are there so many people in the USA who are prepared to carry out these atrocities? As said in the previous thread, other countries that have high gun ownership don’t suffer the same mass shootings. Why only in America? Because there is little or no background checks done before issuing of licenses and purchases of firearms
But why if Switzerland has 90% gun ownership and not the equivalent mass shootings?
It’s a genuine question that needs looking at. Why only Americans?
Well first off USA gun ownership is way way over 90% - also look at who owns the guns, who’s allowed to buy guns, the type of guns you can buy then look at other psycho social issues such as poor MH healthcare facilities.. urban deprivation and you have a perfect storm.
It’s telling that in Texas they have just made abortion illegal (or are on the cusp of doing so) you can’t buy cigarettes or alcohol until you are 21. But you can buy a semi automatic assault rifle at 18 with minimal (or no) Id checks..
No other country even comes close to gun ownership in terms of pure numbers or by capita..
So the problem isn’t guns & gun owners worldwide, just Americans.
What drives someone to go out and murder multiple anonymous innocent people. It’s clearly a mental health issue."There’s just no arguing with stupid.. | |||
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"I just find it crazy that people here in the US think just because it's in the Constitution that it can't be changed or added to at all. " No, because you cant amend any of the constitution... Made when women and black people were considered property, and only land owners could vote. | |||
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"Are you like think it time they got their acts together and did some thing about it Government faults allowing every one to carry a gun the fucking numptoids " There are huge variations from state to state. | |||
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"Sales of guns in the US went up when Covid struck.. it's a big country. Only the isolated incidents get highlighted.. If it were legal then Tom would carry a gun.. Insensitive and unnecessary statement Tom. Why do you want to carry a gun,to protect yourself against what exactly? Insensitive ? For protection of course... If someone pulls a knife then you pull a gun...it's for protection.. simples.. " And then what? Are you prepared to pull the trigger and kill someone? | |||
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"I just find it crazy that people here in the US think just because it's in the Constitution that it can't be changed or added to at all. " You'd think the word "amendment" in second amendment would be a clue | |||
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"I think the problem runs much deeper than guns. Guns are just a scapegoat. It’s easy to blame the gun for killing people , but forget about the troubled and unhinged mind that plans mass murder and then carries out the fantasy. Guns are just the chosen medium to carry out their murderous plan. There are other ways to mass murder if guns weren’t available. Why are there so many people in the USA who are prepared to carry out these atrocities? As said in the previous thread, other countries that have high gun ownership don’t suffer the same mass shootings. Why only in America? " Other countries with high levels of gun ownership have better gun controls. | |||
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"Texas is sooooo pro life, that a woman can't get a termination even if it will kill her to give birth, but once it's out, the right to bear arms tops the right to a safe life... If you're pre born you're fine, if you're preschool you're fucked George Carlin...right?" Yes | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion. "It's a bit like blaming ordinary Brits for the Conservatives. | |||
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"Texas is sooooo pro life, that a woman can't get a termination even if it will kill her to give birth, but once it's out, the right to bear arms tops the right to a safe life... If you're pre born you're fine, if you're preschool you're fucked George Carlin...right? Yes" the absolute madness of texas rule makers | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion. "And it's kinda rich for us to sit here across the other side of the world saying we are fed up with it. We are not affected by it. But there are parents in Uvalde mourning their children. | |||
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"I think the problem runs much deeper than guns. Guns are just a scapegoat. It’s easy to blame the gun for killing people , but forget about the troubled and unhinged mind that plans mass murder and then carries out the fantasy. Guns are just the chosen medium to carry out their murderous plan. There are other ways to mass murder if guns weren’t available. Why are there so many people in the USA who are prepared to carry out these atrocities? As said in the previous thread, other countries that have high gun ownership don’t suffer the same mass shootings. Why only in America? Because there is little or no background checks done before issuing of licenses and purchases of firearms
But why if Switzerland has 90% gun ownership and not the equivalent mass shootings?
It’s a genuine question that needs looking at. Why only Americans?"Proper controls over gun ownership, and monitoring of gun owners | |||
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"91 per cent of children killed by guns globally, are killed in USA. " That’s astonishing. Where did you find that? | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion.
And it's kinda rich for us to sit here across the other side of the world saying we are fed up with it. We are not affected by it. But there are parents in Uvalde mourning their children. "Agreed. I'm not fed up, I'm desperately sad. | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion.
And it's kinda rich for us to sit here across the other side of the world saying we are fed up with it. We are not affected by it. But there are parents in Uvalde mourning their children. "my niece is going to primary school in America trust me we are worried every day about her. | |||
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"I just find it crazy that people here in the US think just because it's in the Constitution that it can't be changed or added to at all. No, because you cant amend any of the constitution... Made when women and black people were considered property, and only land owners could vote." Yes you can amend a constitution. The right to bear arms is itself due to an amendment | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion. "They keep electing the people who are blocking change though | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?" not a whole pile | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion.
They keep electing the people who are blocking change though "There's significant gerrymandering if you look into it. | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile " ??? | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?" Availability and requirements vary massively In some states you can literally buy guns off a shelf in Walmart | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm? Availability and requirements vary massively In some states you can literally buy guns off a shelf in Walmart " Without any ID or checks of any sort? Which states? | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion.
They keep electing the people who are blocking change though
There's significant gerrymandering if you look into it."If it became the room issue for people, they would elect someone else to stand up to the gun lobby | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion.
They keep electing the people who are blocking change though
There's significant gerrymandering if you look into it.
If it became the room issue for people, they would elect someone else to stand up to the gun lobby "I suspect the gerrymandering would need to be attended to first, to allow all votes to matter equally | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm? Availability and requirements vary massively In some states you can literally buy guns off a shelf in Walmart Without any ID or checks of any sort? Which states?" Given there are 50 states (plus non states like DC and Puerto Rico), this question is a bit of a tall order in context. | |||
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"I think it's quite unfair to blame all of the American people for the situation when the majority would like more gun control. That is in the control of lawmakers. In Texas there are 10 Republicans who stop each attempt at gun control. As far as I've read it's the same in other states - any gun control bills get blocked by pro-gun Republicans. It's like blaming all Americans for the Supreme Court's leaked decision on Roe v Wade. When the majority are pro-abortion.
They keep electing the people who are blocking change though "I don't know a great deal about US Politics but as far as I understand it people are much less likely to be "swinging voters" - voting Republican doesn't necessarily mean voting for no gun control. Anymore than voting Conservative means voting for Johnson. | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???" Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm? Availability and requirements vary massively In some states you can literally buy guns off a shelf in Walmart Without any ID or checks of any sort? Which states? Given there are 50 states (plus non states like DC and Puerto Rico), this question is a bit of a tall order in context. " I was a bit of a tall order, I'm actually googling now, and as suspected, can't find anything stating I can rock up to a supermarket, put choose a firearm, hand over cash and walk out. | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks " Just had a look, and quite honestly shocked | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks Just had a look, and quite honestly shocked "its utter madness here in Ireland there's less paperwork when getting a mortgage than when you are buying a gun for shooting game | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm? Availability and requirements vary massively In some states you can literally buy guns off a shelf in Walmart Without any ID or checks of any sort? Which states? Given there are 50 states (plus non states like DC and Puerto Rico), this question is a bit of a tall order in context. I was a bit of a tall order, I'm actually googling now, and as suspected, can't find anything stating I can rock up to a supermarket, put choose a firearm, hand over cash and walk out." Your googling needs work! | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm? Availability and requirements vary massively In some states you can literally buy guns off a shelf in Walmart Without any ID or checks of any sort? Which states? Given there are 50 states (plus non states like DC and Puerto Rico), this question is a bit of a tall order in context. I was a bit of a tall order, I'm actually googling now, and as suspected, can't find anything stating I can rock up to a supermarket, put choose a firearm, hand over cash and walk out." Keep checking then. Also, you can buy guns privately, eg at a gun show, with no background checks | |||
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"I've just checked on line to see what the 2nd Amendment actually says; this is what I found: 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' It would appear that the American Government is in breach of this amendment, it isn't ensuring that the Militia are well regulated. If they (the people of America) are going instist that this amendment stays in their constitution, then it's the duty of the US Government to ensure that they fully meet their responsibilities as clearly stated within it; if they consistently fail to do so, this amendment must go as it's been to be unrealistic to uphold." Don't be silly, it clearly intends that people can wave penis extender assault rifles around Walmart because it makes them feel good. Reading, book learning, textual analysis and honest interpretation of laws are for snowflake libtards | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks Just had a look, and quite honestly shocked its utter madness here in Ireland there's less paperwork when getting a mortgage than when you are buying a gun for shooting game "I've just read on a bit, not that it makes much difference, but no checks for private sale.. so can't go into Walmart as previous said. The paperwork and checks I had to go through here, I just assumed would be like over there (mostly). | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. " People play the same games elsewhere buddy, but they don’t have access to military grade weapons …hence the lack of mass shootings of Children, elderly, etc… in any other fully developed nation - other than the US. Thoughts and prayers don’t save lives it seems. | |||
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"It's dreadful but sadly there is little to be done even if they ban the sale of guns the country is a wash with them. " There are numerous things to be done. Background checks Waiting periods Raise the age limit State register Limit where they're sol Weapon amnesty | |||
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"Every mass shooting leads to a rise in gun sales. There are more guns than people in America. That says all you need to know." That people who are afraid act irrationally, and business owners will exploit that, when permitted to. | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks Just had a look, and quite honestly shocked its utter madness here in Ireland there's less paperwork when getting a mortgage than when you are buying a gun for shooting game
I've just read on a bit, not that it makes much difference, but no checks for private sale.. so can't go into Walmart as previous said.
The paperwork and checks I had to go through here, I just assumed would be like over there (mostly). "Yes you can buy guns in Walmart, in about half of their stores nationwide. Checks vary from state to state, but some states do not require background checks. | |||
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"It's dreadful but sadly there is little to be done even if they ban the sale of guns the country is a wash with them. There are numerous things to be done. Background checks Waiting periods Raise the age limit State register Limit where they're sol Weapon amnesty" … and same controls for private sales, which is the weakest area of all at the moment | |||
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"It's dreadful but sadly there is little to be done even if they ban the sale of guns the country is a wash with them. There are numerous things to be done. Background checks Waiting periods Raise the age limit State register Limit where they're sol Weapon amnesty … and same controls for private sales, which is the weakest area of all at the moment " And crack down on people trying to exploit loopholes. I suspect an overwhelming majority of Americans would support regulating firearms like cars are regulated. But that's not being translated into political action. | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks Just had a look, and quite honestly shocked its utter madness here in Ireland there's less paperwork when getting a mortgage than when you are buying a gun for shooting game
I've just read on a bit, not that it makes much difference, but no checks for private sale.. so can't go into Walmart as previous said.
The paperwork and checks I had to go through here, I just assumed would be like over there (mostly).
Yes you can buy guns in Walmart, in about half of their stores nationwide. Checks vary from state to state, but some states do not require background checks."From what I have read so far, regards to state of Texas is actually quite shocking. As stated, I just assumed there were pretty substantial checks and hoops to jump through as that would be common sense... | |||
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"I wouldn’t say fed up but obviously it’s very sad. Circle of concern / circle of influence ? I don’t think discussing it on forums / Facebook or thinking too much about it will solve it. Unless you plan to expand your circle of influence and help solve it somehow? " I don’t think that anyone here is delusional enough to think that we have any influence on the situation, we are just sharing observations and thoughts. 90 per cent of Americans want stronger gun controls, but GOP is blocking this being discussed and voted on. | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks Just had a look, and quite honestly shocked its utter madness here in Ireland there's less paperwork when getting a mortgage than when you are buying a gun for shooting game
I've just read on a bit, not that it makes much difference, but no checks for private sale.. so can't go into Walmart as previous said.
The paperwork and checks I had to go through here, I just assumed would be like over there (mostly).
Yes you can buy guns in Walmart, in about half of their stores nationwide. Checks vary from state to state, but some states do not require background checks.
From what I have read so far, regards to state of Texas is actually quite shocking. As stated, I just assumed there were pretty substantial checks and hoops to jump through as that would be common sense..."Controls vary significantly. And private sales are not regulated, so people can buy guns at gun shows without any background checks. Having lived in the US myself for several years, it is harder than get a mobile phone than to get a gun | |||
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"I wouldn’t say fed up but obviously it’s very sad. Circle of concern / circle of influence ? I don’t think discussing it on forums / Facebook or thinking too much about it will solve it. Unless you plan to expand your circle of influence and help solve it somehow? I don’t think that anyone here is delusional enough to think that we have any influence on the situation, we are just sharing observations and thoughts. 90 per cent of Americans want stronger gun controls, but GOP is blocking this being discussed and voted on. " I think there's a place for these discussions, even though nothing will be changed via this venue. Maybe it'll inspire people to think about their own intersection with politics, what they can do to advocate, give money, or something else. I've had some interesting ideas arise from (not just here) forum discussions, which I've translated into action "out there". Or it's just a discussion. Not everything has to be productive. | |||
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"You've seen a 50cal AR15?" There's 50cal versions of the AR not. 50 BMG though. I belive there are. 50 bmg rifles that use AR lowers though. | |||
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"I wouldn’t say fed up but obviously it’s very sad. Circle of concern / circle of influence ? I don’t think discussing it on forums / Facebook or thinking too much about it will solve it. Unless you plan to expand your circle of influence and help solve it somehow? I don’t think that anyone here is delusional enough to think that we have any influence on the situation, we are just sharing observations and thoughts. 90 per cent of Americans want stronger gun controls, but GOP is blocking this being discussed and voted on. I think there's a place for these discussions, even though nothing will be changed via this venue. Maybe it'll inspire people to think about their own intersection with politics, what they can do to advocate, give money, or something else. I've had some interesting ideas arise from (not just here) forum discussions, which I've translated into action "out there". Or it's just a discussion. Not everything has to be productive. " This, I’m on a few forums everything from films to running. I can tell you theres plenty of threads about the shootings in the US, especially more emotive due to the ages of the victims.
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"It's dreadful but sadly there is little to be done even if they ban the sale of guns the country is a wash with them. There are numerous things to be done. Background checks Waiting periods Raise the age limit State register Limit where they're sol Weapon amnesty" I have an idea - what about simply relying on thoughts and prayers? | |||
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"It's dreadful but sadly there is little to be done even if they ban the sale of guns the country is a wash with them. There are numerous things to be done. Background checks Waiting periods Raise the age limit State register Limit where they're sol Weapon amnesty I have an idea - what about simply relying on thoughts and prayers?" They can try that for abortion first. Don't like abortion? Pray about it and get your mitts out of other people's reproductive health. | |||
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"You've seen a 50cal AR15? There's 50cal versions of the AR not. 50 BMG though. I belive there are. 50 bmg rifles that use AR lowers though. " Agreed, it's called an AR-50 It's a long range/sniper rifle. The AR-15 (or M16, with a plastic stock) is 5.56mm (or .223 if you prefer). Personally, I carried an AR-15. To me it was better balanced with the wooden stock, much better than the SLR, which itself was a plastic stocked version, made under licence, of the FN rifle. | |||
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"Yes, but there will never be anything done, 5th amendment, gun control, I get pistols, hunting rifles, but military grade arm absolutely no need to be sold, I worked in US, and seen AR15 50cal rifles for sale its, crazy " You mean the Beowulf? Great for big hunts like bears but useless for anything else as they fuck a gun up if used a lot/rapidly. C | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. " Did you know that all short and long term studies have shown zero link between video games and violence in life? Not one link. C | |||
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"Let them decide their own laws. We should worry about the terrible knife crime in UK, especially in parts of London." Exactly. We banned handguns (barring long grips) and we still have gun crime. All the bans do is arm the criminal. C | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. Did you know that all short and long term studies have shown zero link between video games and violence in life? Not one link. C" Please point me to those studies. | |||
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"Let them decide their own laws. We should worry about the terrible knife crime in UK, especially in parts of London. Exactly. We banned handguns (barring long grips) and we still have gun crime. All the bans do is arm the criminal. C" So we identify criminals? Those who want or feel the need to arm themselves are criminals. Gun have no place in a civilised society nor do knives or other weapons that cause harm. | |||
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" Please point me to those studies." Google really is your friend. They are plentiful. C | |||
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"Sales of guns in the US went up when Covid struck.. it's a big country. Only the isolated incidents get highlighted.. If it were legal then Tom would carry a gun.. " I rest my case. We are fucked! | |||
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" Please point me to those studies. Google really is your friend. They are plentiful. C" If you believe everything published on line then you are stupid or naive | |||
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"Understanding the scale and landmass of the US is important. If I was in some states I too will want a gun. It is not as simple as a one-side fit all solution. " There are, reportedly 400; million guns in circulation in America today. Some senators want to repeal the laws on abortion which is every woman’s right but will not support the restrictions on fire arms! | |||
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" Please point me to those studies. Google really is your friend. They are plentiful. C If you believe everything published on line then you are stupid or naive " Time for you to get off your soapbox and actually look at the peer reviewed pieces instead of falsely blaming your chosen boogeyman. C | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks " Background checks are required in Texas thru the FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). | |||
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"Understanding the scale and landmass of the US is important. If I was in some states I too will want a gun. It is not as simple as a one-side fit all solution. " Australia has vast deserted areas - and few guns. What's your point? | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. Did you know that all short and long term studies have shown zero link between video games and violence in life? Not one link. C Please point me to those studies." It's up to you to prove your point - you made the assertion. People play computer games in other countries and don't massacre kids. | |||
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"Are you like think it time they got their acts together and did some thing about it " I think everyone is fed up, to put it mildly. Their challenges to create meaningful change in relation to gun ownership and crimes are well noted. I remember watching the film Bowling for Columbine years ago and wondering ‘why’ but it’s just part of American culture. | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. Did you know that all short and long term studies have shown zero link between video games and violence in life? Not one link. C" Do you know why? The gaming industry will not conduct any research because it's not in their interests to do. My son is a game developer and it's a very closed off industry | |||
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"Understanding the scale and landmass of the US is important. If I was in some states I too will want a gun. It is not as simple as a one-side fit all solution. Australia has vast deserted areas - and few guns. What's your point? " Yeah, the US being a geographically large country is an asinine argument | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. " Gaming isn't the issue, people killing people with guns is the issue. I agree that someone with a maladaptive behaviour could be influenced by the games they play, it will be an attention deficit thing influenced by screen time not screen content... Blame guns not games. | |||
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"It’s not the laws as crazy as they are. It is the lunatics behind them. They grow up with computer games killing each other and the very few that are mentally unstable. What they are doing is a cowards way. Did you know that all short and long term studies have shown zero link between video games and violence in life? Not one link. C Do you know why? The gaming industry will not conduct any research because it's not in their interests to do. My son is a game developer and it's a very closed off industry" The US and UK government have been doing these studies. Large scale so there is no need for companies. Bush, Obama and Trump successful ran studies in both the long and short form and all found the same. There is categorically no link. C | |||
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"Can I just ask, what are the current gun laws in America? I'll assume different states may differ slightly, but on the whole, what are the requirements that need to meet in order to purchase a firearm?not a whole pile ???Anyone can buy a gun in texas no background checks Background checks are required in Texas thru the FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). "He couldn't have passed it either as he lived with his grandparents and his grandfather is a felon. So many inconsistencies in this whole story though. C | |||
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"I am concerened as my daughter and grand kids live in Texas. The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing time and time again whilst expecting a different result. Such is the view of the "guns don't kill" Republican lobby in the USA. The most disturbing part of this for me is the action of the police. The time between the first 911 call (11:30) and the officers shooting the suspect (12:50) allowed the shooter fee range. There were 20 plus armed police at the school and all they did for over an hour is lockdown the shooter in a classroom full of children. A Fox news pundit was explaining how the armed police were at risk themselves so did not go in! Obviously their training only includes how to shoot unarmed black men in the back when they have been stopped for minor traffic offences." What would you have done if you were the Sheriff in charge | |||
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