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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

If you’re feeling

sluggish low energy

brain fog

low sex drive

body shape change

Lesser erections (softer, less frequent)

Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age.

There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 9!

I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial.

There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+.

If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before.

I was tested and shown to be 9nmol/L, my doctor said this was within normal range, I then fractured my ankle and was seen by a specialist, I mentioned my low testosterone to him and he suspected I also had Low Bone Density.

He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture.

His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS.

NOTE; This is a nhs treatment;

I have been on Testosterone Replacement for over 4 years now, first two years on Testogel and once dosage was fixed out things worked well, I was on two sachets a day which are rubbed into your shoulders.

I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well.

I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower.

My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too.

So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement

I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body

my other symptoms included;

• fatigue

• lethargy

• depression

• anxiety

• irritability

• low libido

• erectile dysfunction

• reduced exercise tolerance and strength

• excessive sweating and night sweats

• poor concentration or memory

• needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less.

My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life.

My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles

My Erections have also returned big time, powerful strong rock solid erections every morning and as and when performance is required, often unexpected moments too such as standing in a Tesco check out queue

Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is an excellent post, thank you for sharing and raising awareness

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By *iss KinkWoman over a year ago

North/Blackpool

I’m glad you feel better. If only women were allowed the same privilege without having to spend hundreds of pounds going private

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By *iscreet gent2018Man over a year ago

Newcastle

This is a really insightful post, thank you. I have some of the symptoms you’ve mentioned and my doc has never even mentioned this treatment. I think I’ll have to get him/her to take blood and get checked. Thanks again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Has it affected your mood at all, being on hrt?

Well done for sharing

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By *agicM53XMan over a year ago

Orpington

"I’m glad you feel better. If only women were allowed the same privilege without having to spend hundreds of pounds going private "

They are...most women that have any symptoms associated with menopause are "allowed" (and sometimes recommended) to have HRT by their doctors. It might be a bit more difficult to be provided with the treatment through the NHS (like most treatments) but I don't see how the NHS doesn't allow women to go on HRT...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think this needs to be talked about more - glad you’re feeling better

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Testosterone replacement on the NHS is impossible unless you are ‘clinically low’ which is low for your age.

Western Medicine doesn’t like hormone replacement because hormones are naturally occurring and cannot be patented. No money for big pharmaceutical industry . As a result women are given synthetic hormones which cause cancer. Google The Wiley Protocol for information on cyclical natural bio identical hormone replacement.

Low testosterone is a big part of the problem but balanced with thyroid hormone and human growth hormone and you will truly feel 25 again

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

"I’m glad you feel better. If only women were allowed the same privilege without having to spend hundreds of pounds going private "

I've spent thousands and it's gotten me nowhere. My testosterone last checked was 39, which just baffles, as even hanging clothes up to dry puts me to sleep.

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By *iamondCougarWoman over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Well done for raising this and glad to hear it’s worked for you

Our hormones play a vital role and can be the root of several imbalances creating other problems. Don’t be embarrassed guys to seek help for any boggling little worry you have

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

I got full blood work done last year including Testosterone, free Testosterone and SHGB. Going forward I am going to get it done every year and have my own track record of my hormone profile and what is normal for me. This is an important point to note, while there is ranges of normal what is actually more important is what is normal.

On a side I have a few friends using TRT and all ended up going private as the NHS seems to have zero interest in providing TRT unless you are extremely low. I don't know the exact name for the classifications but HRT for women can be prescribed by a doctor but TRT can only be prescribed by a specialist, and we all know the battle that can be needed to see an NHS specialist

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

*SHBG

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

"I’m glad you feel better. If only women were allowed the same privilege without having to spend hundreds of pounds going private

I've spent thousands and it's gotten me nowhere. My testosterone last checked was 39, which just baffles, as even hanging clothes up to dry puts me to sleep. "

I'm not expert but have you had your free test and SHBG checked? My total test was very high but so was my SHGB was high so as a result my free test was pretty medicare.

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By *ingfisher740Man over a year ago

birmingham

Don't body builder use testosterone injections?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m glad you feel better. If only women were allowed the same privilege without having to spend hundreds of pounds going private

I've spent thousands and it's gotten me nowhere. My testosterone last checked was 39, which just baffles, as even hanging clothes up to dry puts me to sleep. "

Get bloods checked for: B12, iron, thyroid and vitD

You'll have to specifically request some of those and give a reaaon (extreme exhaustion)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For men testosterone is not just about erections and muscles. Low testosterone and your personality is gone. No excitement, no vitality, no drive and no ambition.

As bad as it is for men, women entering menopause have it worse

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

"Don't body builder use testosterone injections? "

Yes they do but what has that got to do with it? Many body builders also use insulin, HGH and a thousand other things. They're a big difference between using a hormone to get back to normal function and using it to increase muscle size and strength

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't body builder use testosterone injections? "

Body builders will often use testosterone in levels way beyond normal. They also use a wide range of synthetic steroids which have serious health issues

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For men testosterone is not just about erections and muscles. Low testosterone and your personality is gone. No excitement, no vitality, no drive and no ambition.

As bad as it is for men, women entering menopause have it worse "

It isn't a competition

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Listen to:

Sex Lies and Menopause on audible.co.uk

Anti-aging Cures also on audible

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

"I’m glad you feel better. If only women were allowed the same privilege without having to spend hundreds of pounds going private

I've spent thousands and it's gotten me nowhere. My testosterone last checked was 39, which just baffles, as even hanging clothes up to dry puts me to sleep.

I'm not expert but have you had your free test and SHBG checked? My total test was very high but so was my SHGB was high so as a result my free test was pretty medicare. "

I've just googled what that is, no not had that checked, my testosterone was done for no apparent reason by my Dr. Any private healthcare has been scans, some bloods, some off the wall tests I or they thought may point to something.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have been on a full program of hormone replacement therapy for three years. Before I was depressed and very low energy.

Now, I sleep like a baby. Have all the energy I need. Exercise with no pain or aches. Have not been sick a day in 3 years

Very few doctors in the U.K. understand this program or even believe that anti-aging is a ‘thing’

Full bloods every three months

Consultation with Dr every 3-6 months

Very expensive National hormone replacement program

Anyone who wants to learn more I’m happy to chat.

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman over a year ago

North West

"If you’re feeling

sluggish low energy

brain fog

low sex drive

body shape change

Lesser erections (softer, less frequent)

Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age.

There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 9!

I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial.

There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+.

If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before.

He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture.

His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS.

NOTE; This is a nhs treatment;

I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well.

I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower.

My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too.

So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement

I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body

my other symptoms included;

• fatigue

• lethargy

• depression

• anxiety

• irritability

• low libido

• erectile dysfunction

• reduced exercise tolerance and strength

• excessive sweating and night sweats

• poor concentration or memory

• needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less.

My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life.

My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles

Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience."

Thank you sharing this OP.

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

Something worth mentioning as well is the huge change in people's hormones in recent decades. Certainly a lot of it is down to more obesity, sedentary lifestyles etc but the amount of artifical hormones and hormone influences is off the charts. From BPAs in plastic, plastic in the water supply, chemicals we use on a daily basis, the list is endless.

There is virtually nothing you can do about these unless you plan to love as a hermit in northern Norway. But there still is a huge stigma around using hormone replacement

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I got full blood work done last year including Testosterone, free Testosterone and SHGB. Going forward I am going to get it done every year and have my own track record of my hormone profile and what is normal for me. This is an important point to note, while there is ranges of normal what is actually more important is what is normal.

You can get testosterone prescribed by a gp, but it depends on your area.

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By *iscreet gent2018Man over a year ago

Newcastle

You can get testosterone prescribed by a gp, but it depends on your area. "

Sadly the postcode system is all too great in our NHS these days.

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

You can get testosterone prescribed by a gp, but it depends on your area. "

Are you sure? I just looked at the NHS website and it said your GP will refer you to an endocrinologist if treatment is required

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can get testosterone prescribed by a gp, but it depends on your area.

Are you sure? I just looked at the NHS website and it said your GP will refer you to an endocrinologist if treatment is required"

Yes. I’m on a menopause FB page, and women get to prescribed by gps. Mine is being tested soon by my gp too.

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

You can get testosterone prescribed by a gp, but it depends on your area.

Are you sure? I just looked at the NHS website and it said your GP will refer you to an endocrinologist if treatment is required

Yes. I’m on a menopause FB page, and women get to prescribed by gps. Mine is being tested soon by my gp too. "

Thats what I meant, female HRT can be prescribed by GPs and seems to be widely accepted, where as Testosterone replacement can't be prescribed by GPs. They can only refer on to specialists

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Getting TRT through the NHS is almost impossible, if you managed it OP well done.

I tried for years, I was well below the lower threshold but they tried to blame my diet, lack of sleep and a number of other things.

I jumped through so many hoops intbey end I just gave up and paid privately.

Life changing and allowed me to come off SSRI meds.

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By *iss KinkWoman over a year ago

North/Blackpool

"I’m glad you feel better. If only women were allowed the same privilege without having to spend hundreds of pounds going private

I’m talking about testosterone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is a really interesting post OP, thank you for raising awareness of TRT. Hope it continues to help you and gives some readers information to consider for themselves

NBVN x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can get testosterone prescribed by a gp, but it depends on your area.

Are you sure? I just looked at the NHS website and it said your GP will refer you to an endocrinologist if treatment is required

Yes. I’m on a menopause FB page, and women get to prescribed by gps. Mine is being tested soon by my gp too.

Thats what I meant, female HRT can be prescribed by GPs and seems to be widely accepted, where as Testosterone replacement can't be prescribed by GPs. They can only refer on to specialists "

Oh, that’s a bit shit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

U have been self medicating for a month now,ive gone from a dead 50 year old to a man with energy fun and got my money shot back .nhs said i was fine for a man of my age.Low end of normal.I now feel wonderful .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Really important issue and one which is not easy to navigate but persist - it’s clearly a game changer!

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

No questions I just really want that test U

Super long ester sounds so much easier that enan or cyp. Credit to your doc on picking that

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

You can get testosterone prescribed by a gp, but it depends on your area.

Are you sure? I just looked at the NHS website and it said your GP will refer you to an endocrinologist if treatment is required

Yes. I’m on a menopause FB page, and women get to prescribed by gps. Mine is being tested soon by my gp too.

Thats what I meant, female HRT can be prescribed by GPs and seems to be widely accepted, where as Testosterone replacement can't be prescribed by GPs. They can only refer on to specialists "

It’s a big issue with the NHS and it’s not spoken about enough. Many men are on the low side of T where TRT could change their lives, yet it’s withheld so often.

More men should be seeing their GP and insisting, demanding, that this treatment isn’t withheld. Nothing will change without that.

“Power concedes nothing without demand”

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not something I talk about much here but due to a medical condition I am on TRT for life

I don't notice all the benefits sone mentioned on here but that could be for other reasons

I definitely notice a dip between injections and when I am due one

When I first went to GPS about it over here no one had heard of my condition and had to research it

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Testosterone replacement on the NHS is impossible unless you are ‘clinically low’ which is low for your age.

Low testosterone is a big part of the problem but balanced with thyroid hormone and human growth hormone and you will truly feel 25 again "

The Wiley Protocol includes an option for transdermal thyroid hormones. Brilliant, except studies have shown almost no T4 will cross human skin.

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By *rooperRedMan over a year ago

Littlehampton

What would be the point? Walk around with a boner for no one to look at?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"What would be the point? Walk around with a boner for no one to look at?"

Maybe have a read up on the biological effect of testosterone, then come back. Achieving erection is only one tiny aspect. Women require small amounts of testosterone too, but it's got feck all to do with "boners".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What would be the point? Walk around with a boner for no one to look at?

Well said

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

"What would be the point? Walk around with a boner for no one to look at?"

Honestly you're just showing a massive ignorance on the effects of hormones on the body

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By *rooperRedMan over a year ago

Littlehampton

Meow.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thank you for this most of those symptoms are ones that I have

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

On TRT. Doc put me on it no drama as she has a professional interest in it. Shows how unfair mens hormonal support is.

It lifted me up no end. For me it was about energy and now I’m back to my best.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What would be the point? Walk around with a boner for no one to look at?"

Ignorance at its best

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

Has anyone mentioned an lack of heat and touch sensitivity in the tip of the penis?

Especially, when it comes to having a shower and not knowing if the water is hot or not down there.

The skin on the shaft and scrotum are working fine in this regard.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Has anyone mentioned an lack of heat and touch sensitivity in the tip of the penis?

Especially, when it comes to having a shower and not knowing if the water is hot or not down there.

The skin on the shaft and scrotum are working fine in this regard.

Have you been told this is testosterone related? Do you have problems with your back/sciatica etc?

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Port talbot

I'm starting to wonder if I need it and the reason why I lack energy, had bloods done for everything lots of times and always fine

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I get full bloods done every 3 months now , I don’t bother with NHS they are absolutely rubbish unless your dying , then they’re ok…..it costs me about 325, the analysis is amazing and very actionable with diet choices etc my T levels are currently fine , my consultant says he will give me whatever I ask for, I get those anti-inflammatory injections amd regular Q3 risk assessments

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

" my consultant says he will give me whatever I ask for, "

Your consultant will give you anything you ask for? Anything? If that's true, their license to be registered to practice in the UK should be revoked.

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

I've given up finding consultants that know everything there is to know.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I've given up finding consultants that know everything there is to know. "

None of them do. They know about their little bit of medicine and are only properly up to date if they keep themselves so. You won't find any consultant who knows everything about everything medical.

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Port talbot

" my consultant says he will give me whatever I ask for,

Your consultant will give you anything you ask for? Anything? If that's true, their license to be registered to practice in the UK should be revoked."

See I was thinking more I want them to be my consultant

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

" my consultant says he will give me whatever I ask for,

Your consultant will give you anything you ask for? Anything? If that's true, their license to be registered to practice in the UK should be revoked.

See I was thinking more I want them to be my consultant

I'd love solutions to my problems, for someone to wave a magic wand etc. But it's unrealistic, no?!

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

"I've given up finding consultants that know everything there is to know.

None of them do. They know about their little bit of medicine and are only properly up to date if they keep themselves so. You won't find any consultant who knows everything about everything medical. "

That is what I've found

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"Has anyone mentioned an lack of heat and touch sensitivity in the tip of the penis?

Especially, when it comes to having a shower and not knowing if the water is hot or not down there.

The skin on the shaft and scrotum are working fine in this regard.

Have you been told this is testosterone related? Do you have problems with your back/sciatica etc?"

I had my bloods done last year and my levels are 11mnol. This is not good. I did have c5-c7 neck problems, but the foam roller fixed that a few years ago.

I've had normal back ache, but not sciatica, nerve damage surgery or anything obvious like that.

Andropause seems to be worth asking about.

Anti depressants have a lot to answer for. as my last two meds gave me side effects. I've been off them for a couple of years now, but I'm still waiting for normal service to resume....

I'm booked into to see a urologist shortly. (Getting that one wasn't easy.) There will be a lot of questions, when I go.

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"I'm starting to wonder if I need it and the reason why I lack energy, had bloods done for everything lots of times and always fine "

Look at the symptoms, not the numbers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Has anyone mentioned an lack of heat and touch sensitivity in the tip of the penis?

Especially, when it comes to having a shower and not knowing if the water is hot or not down there.

The skin on the shaft and scrotum are working fine in this regard.

Have you been told this is testosterone related? Do you have problems with your back/sciatica etc?

I had my bloods done last year and my levels are 11mnol. This is not good. I did have c5-c7 neck problems, but the foam roller fixed that a few years ago.

I've had normal back ache, but not sciatica, nerve damage surgery or anything obvious like that.

Andropause seems to be worth asking about.

Anti depressants have a lot to answer for. as my last two meds gave me side effects. I've been off them for a couple of years now, but I'm still waiting for normal service to resume....

I'm booked into to see a urologist shortly. (Getting that one wasn't easy.) There will be a lot of questions, when I go."

11nnmol/L puts you at the lower end of the normal range.

One of the issues is different NHS trusts set different normal ranges, there is no one fixed range.

I tested 9 times over 3 years in my fight with the NHS, highest was 8.1,lowest was 6.7. Everyone below the normal lower range value my local trust set but they still refused.

Wrote to the local MP, my local trust, the minister in charge of the NHS, everyone I could and they still fobbed me off.

Bunch of cunts, the lot of them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can get trt privately , leger clinic are very good. They prescribe sustanon or test cyp if needed for trt

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I’m glad you feel better. If only women were allowed the same privilege without having to spend hundreds of pounds going private

I've spent thousands and it's gotten me nowhere. My testosterone last checked was 39, which just baffles, as even hanging clothes up to dry puts me to sleep.

I'm not expert but have you had your free test and SHBG checked? My total test was very high but so was my SHGB was high so as a result my free test was pretty medicare. "

I wanted to read all comments before coming back to comment but I have to step in right here;

if You go to your GP and get your testosterone checked, 99% of the time your doctor will say it is within guideline limits this is because these guidelines are 9nmol/L to 28nmol/L

BUT; 9nmol/L is what would be expected in a 75 year old man!!!

if you are mid 40's and have a reading of 9, 10, 11 nmol/L they you are seriously low, yet your GP doctor will say your testosterone is okay.

Now the above comment.......

if you have need tested and say your testosterone is 18nmol/L (acceptable)

but your SHGB is HIGH, this DRASTICALLY Lowers your free Testosterone and it is your free testosterone which goes into your bones to build them.

This along with low testosterone is often the cause of Osteoporosis in both men and women and is a time bomb which will not come to light for 10 years or more.

The NHS does not test "SHGB", it does not test free "testosterone" and many other essential bloods simply due to cost. Even although someone who develops Osteoporosis will cost the nhs 100 times the cost of a blood test in future years.

I have a good NHS GP doctor but he is also clueless on TRT, I had to go private and get my TRT levels tested by a specialist, the specialist then reports back to your doctor (even when a private consultation) and it was my specialists recommendation that persuaded my NHS doctor to place me on TRT "for life"

You do not try TRT for a year or two to see if it helps, this is a one direction treatment, if you go on it, you go on it for life.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

You can get testosterone prescribed by a gp, but it depends on your area.

Are you sure? I just looked at the NHS website and it said your GP will refer you to an endocrinologist if treatment is required"

on NHS you will wait a year or more for a endocrinologist consultation and FBC will be taken at this time (Full blood count).

Often the NHS will be reluctant to prescribe TRT simply for Low testosterone alone, unless you also are slowing the effects of Low testosterone such as Osteoporosis (Low Bone Density)

again you really need to research testosterone replacement yourself and become highly educated before approaching a doctor.

But the benefits for myself are life changing.

I needed TRT, I did not go on this because I thought hey it might do me good, I was tested over a few years and showed all symptoms

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Has anyone mentioned an lack of heat and touch sensitivity in the tip of the penis?

Especially, when it comes to having a shower and not knowing if the water is hot or not down there.

The skin on the shaft and scrotum are working fine in this regard.

Have you been told this is testosterone related? Do you have problems with your back/sciatica etc?

I had my bloods done last year and my levels are 11mnol. This is not good. I did have c5-c7 neck problems, but the foam roller fixed that a few years ago.

I've had normal back ache, but not sciatica, nerve damage surgery or anything obvious like that.

Andropause seems to be worth asking about.

Anti depressants have a lot to answer for. as my last two meds gave me side effects. I've been off them for a couple of years now, but I'm still waiting for normal service to resume....

I'm booked into to see a urologist shortly. (Getting that one wasn't easy.) There will be a lot of questions, when I go."

URGENT

Get your Testosterone tested, I also fractured my C6

and also my T7 & T8

simply down do Low Bone Density due to Osteoporosis which in turn was due to Low Testosterone

I receive a Bone Density Scan every 2 years now and my Bone Density is increasing by 12% on my lower back and 16% on my Hip bones, this shows that TRT testosterone replacement plus daily D3 is increasing my Bone Density.

PM me, I had a very simillar experience with bone fractures prior to medication

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Weirdly for me the one impact of trt I hate is body and facial hair and how quickly it now grows

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Port talbot

Having my bloods done to check levels Thursday as I've been lacking energy and have aches constantly as the moment. Bit weird at my age but was a heavy smoker from young age till recently and that can speed the drop in levels up as can not sleeping properly regularly

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By *azziegWoman over a year ago

Atherton

For guys that want to check theirs anonymously should try medicheck.com.. you get results in 3 to 5 days.

Use what bodybuilders use(more sensitive and covers many other markers) and you can tick a box to get doctors notes attached..

Just because you have a good total t range does not mean your body has access to it. you could show 25nl but your body only can access 8nl.

This is a massive subject!

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By *ndrew025Man over a year ago

west lancs

Dorian Yates talks about this a lot. Since he was a steroid abuser he knows the consequences of low testosterone. It helps with all kinds of problems like arthritis, depression all the things mentioned here. The problem is GP’s don’t care enough or won’t prescribe it. Anyone who can afford to go private end up living happier lives.

Low cholesterol also contributes to low Testosterone . Eat those raw eggs

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

I'm on the urologist's waiting list, should be 8 weeks or less.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Unfortunately, the solution is to go private. But private is an expensive option.

Most physicians don’t have much knowledge/education about hormones. Low testosterone for a man is massively debilitating emotionally and physically.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I have read many messages on here - go private, go private.

Fact is, TRT testosterone replacement is fully available on the NHS and if you are in need of this, it is available.

You will find the majority of GP doctors have little or no knowledge of TRT, why would they as it is not a daily occurrence.

When you go to your doctor ask for a private appointment with a specialist who deals with this daily, you will be seen within a week or two, the full report will be sent back to your doctor and...... if it is proven you do need this medication you will be prescribed it by your doctor.

1; you will normally start on Testogel, 1 x 50 mg sachet which you rub into your shoulders.

2; on the morning before you start this, you should have your bloods taken "before 10am"

3; You will rub this into your shoulders each morning for 3 months, then further bloods taken

4; you will probably show that you are still low and your dosage will be increased to 1.5 sachets per day, My bloods showed I needed 2 sachets per day.

5; once your dosage is correct, you will continue on 3 monthly blood checks, then reduced to 6 monthly, and eventually yearly blood tests.

6; By now you will be living a normal life in good health and this will be a way of life for you.

7; You may decide to go down the road of 12 weekly injections, saves the mess of rubbing in gel each morning. and if so, the above process starts again, 12 week injections, blood tests, reduced to 1o week interval, blood test until exact dosage is worked out for you. I am on one injection every 8 weeks.

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Testogel comes in 40 sachet packs, the cost used to be £55 per pack

If on 2 sachets per day this will cost you around £100 per month every month for the rest of your life.

Testogel also comes in a bottle pump activator, simillar cost.

on top of this you will need private blood tests as I described above until correct dosage is found for you and then 6 monthly and yearly checks.

Do you really want to go down this route for the rest of your life?

You do not try TRT, you do not go on it for a year then decide its not for me,

This is a medication for life, of which you sit down with your doctor and discuss along with family members as the chance of having children when on this medication is basically zero.

Your sperm count will drop off and your testicles may shrink slightly due to them shutting down testosterone production.

TRT does not add testosterone to what your body already produces, Your body and The hypothalamus sends a signal to the pituitary gland to say.... "wait a minute my body already has testosterone" and in turn they will shut down testosterone production from your testicles, Your LH & FSH will gradually drop to zero shutting down natural testosterone production from your testicles.

This is not a simple decision, you need to have real medical problems to be placed on TRT and you need to do your own research.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good morning all. Just wanted to thank OP for starting such an illuminating thread ...learned a lot from the post and all the discussions.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I hope that men feel more empowered to speak up and seek the help they need.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

Home

Im on it due to an injury if you have a problem just seek help its nothing to be ashamed of

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have read many messages on here - go private, go private.