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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys... |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys..."
Old tricks?
Which ones?
This isn't a new law - it's been around a while now, is widely known by booking agents and is communicated to anyone booking holidays.
If people arrive not knowing the rule then they only have themselves to blame.
Plus it doesn't stop them drinking as much as they want if they buy it themselves. It's a rule that was brought in to curb the trend of tourists (many of them British) acting in an anti-social way, causing trouble, fighting and generally being complete pricks because they were d*unk.
If they want to go on holiday to get slaughtered then they just need to go somewhere else.
Simples................
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Just don't go all inclusive, go half board instead and instead of having the little plastic cups of piss, have the nice stuff in a proper glass and go out somewhere nice for lunch instead of the hotel. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys..."
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ? |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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I think this can only be a good thing. Anybody who has walked down a major resort street at night and seen folk in the gutter will know why.
In my old age I’d now get the local supermarket vino (cheap as chips) and sit on the balcony people watching and reading a good book.
I think this is progress Tom. |
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All inclusive are great for people with kids, as you don't mind drinks getting spilt, ice creams dropped and kids not eating food and Dads belly getting bigger with the natpiss beer. It was so much cheaper also.
Will lots Families will avoid the balearics because of the lack of all inclusive alcohol and limited selling of alcohol in stores etc?
As my kids are now adults,
I go self catering, enjoy the freedom of picking restaurants/bars. |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
Bedfont Feltham |
Look at thus way.
How woukd you feel if a load of people came to your town got slaughtered at yourocal bar staggering out screaming howling starting fights abusing locals ect ect ect?
If you ask me it's an excellent idea because I have been embarrassed by these ignorant twats of my so called countrymen far too many times |
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All inclusive is horrible!
Too many abusers of alcohol, making it unpleasant for everyone else
Too much crap food, and a rushed dining experience, watching people repeatedly going back to the trough for more piled high plates.
I’ve tried it once and that was enough.
My philosophy is to go to somewhere better for a shorter time, than spend a longer time in a bad place!
And eat where the locals eat, go where the locals go to relax, hire a bike or a car, and get away from the tourists, especially the d*unk ones on all inclusive! |
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"Look at thus way.
How woukd you feel if a load of people came to your town got slaughtered at yourocal bar staggering out screaming howling starting fights abusing locals ect ect ect?
If you ask me it's an excellent idea because I have been embarrassed by these ignorant twats of my so called countrymen far too many times "
What you describe above sounds like Bridgwater |
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"All inclusive is horrible!
Too many abusers of alcohol, making it unpleasant for everyone else
Too much crap food, and a rushed dining experience, watching people repeatedly going back to the trough for more piled high plates.
I’ve tried it once and that was enough.
My philosophy is to go to somewhere better for a shorter time, than spend a longer time in a bad place!
And eat where the locals eat, go where the locals go to relax, hire a bike or a car, and get away from the tourists, especially the d*unk ones on all inclusive! "
Depends where you go. I wouldn’t do it any other way in the Caribbean. Definitely wouldn’t do it in Europe though. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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I'm definitely using the wrong news outlets, that's the second thing in a couple of weeks that's been "all over the news" and completely passed me by.
How they extend a story like that past one day is a mystery too - there must be some real complications involved.
Can anyone recommend a suitable news source for this material please? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We won't go to a hotel in Spain that offers all inclusive. We are going to a lovely 5* complex that we have stayed in before and love it because it only offers upto Full board. We go half-board as its perfect for us and we are not big drinkers. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ? "
Because it is advertised as including alcohol, that's why. And if it means only 6 drinks then thats exactly what it should say. Would you accept unlimited phone calls for your mobile then get cut off if you reached a certain amount of calls in a day. I bet you wouldn't. It's all about the wording I'm afraid. I never even knew of this rule but I would be claiming back every drink I paid for from the travel agent if I needed to buy my own drinks after a cut off period on an all inclusive holiday. |
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"Look at thus way.
How woukd you feel if a load of people came to your town got slaughtered at yourocal bar staggering out screaming howling starting fights abusing locals ect ect ect?
If you ask me it's an excellent idea because I have been embarrassed by these ignorant twats of my so called countrymen far too many times "
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"I'm definitely using the wrong news outlets, that's the second thing in a couple of weeks that's been "all over the news" and completely passed me by.
How they extend a story like that past one day is a mystery too - there must be some real complications involved.
Can anyone recommend a suitable news source for this material please?"
On been on BBC and Sky news and most if not all the main daily newspapers at least once in the last 10 days. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ? "
Because all inclusive means all inclusive! Don’t know much about it but you can’t call it all inclusive it it’s not. Surely! |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Because it is advertised as including alcohol, that's why. And if it means only 6 drinks then thats exactly what it should say. Would you accept unlimited phone calls for your mobile then get cut off if you reached a certain amount of calls in a day. I bet you wouldn't. It's all about the wording I'm afraid. I never even knew of this rule but I would be claiming back every drink I paid for from the travel agent if I needed to buy my own drinks after a cut off period on an all inclusive holiday. "
But it does say this and has done since January, people just aren't reading The Times and conditions. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Because it is advertised as including alcohol, that's why. And if it means only 6 drinks then thats exactly what it should say. Would you accept unlimited phone calls for your mobile then get cut off if you reached a certain amount of calls in a day. I bet you wouldn't. It's all about the wording I'm afraid. I never even knew of this rule but I would be claiming back every drink I paid for from the travel agent if I needed to buy my own drinks after a cut off period on an all inclusive holiday.
But it does say this and has done since January, people just aren't reading The Times and conditions. "
Are they calling it all inclusive then putting it in the T & C’s about the drinks? That doesn’t seem fair or right. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Because it is advertised as including alcohol, that's why. And if it means only 6 drinks then thats exactly what it should say. Would you accept unlimited phone calls for your mobile then get cut off if you reached a certain amount of calls in a day. I bet you wouldn't. It's all about the wording I'm afraid. I never even knew of this rule but I would be claiming back every drink I paid for from the travel agent if I needed to buy my own drinks after a cut off period on an all inclusive holiday.
But it does say this and has done since January, people just aren't reading The Times and conditions.
Are they calling it all inclusive then putting it in the T & C’s about the drinks? That doesn’t seem fair or right. "
I was watching Simon Calder the travel expert talk about this the other day. He said that contrary to what people may believe alcoholic drinks do not have to be part of the all inclusive offer for it to be called such, many hotels have had limits for several years. He went on to explain often hotels will still use their discretion in any limit. And on a personal note I would think 6 free alcoholic drinks A-day is enough for anyone. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Because it is advertised as including alcohol, that's why. And if it means only 6 drinks then thats exactly what it should say. Would you accept unlimited phone calls for your mobile then get cut off if you reached a certain amount of calls in a day. I bet you wouldn't. It's all about the wording I'm afraid. I never even knew of this rule but I would be claiming back every drink I paid for from the travel agent if I needed to buy my own drinks after a cut off period on an all inclusive holiday.
But it does say this and has done since January, people just aren't reading The Times and conditions.
Are they calling it all inclusive then putting it in the T & C’s about the drinks? That doesn’t seem fair or right.
I was watching Simon Calder the travel expert talk about this the other day. He said that contrary to what people may believe alcoholic drinks do not have to be part of the all inclusive offer for it to be called such, many hotels have had limits for several years. He went on to explain often hotels will still use their discretion in any limit. And on a personal note I would think 6 free alcoholic drinks A-day is enough for anyone. "
Ah I see. Never been to one in Europe so didn’t know that. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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I've Googled...
"A furious British Holidaymaker has claimed that his £240 all inclusive trop to Majorca was ruined...."
He's pretty cheerful in all the pics he gave the Daily Mail...and has a glass in his hand.
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over a year ago
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"I've Googled...
"A furious British Holidaymaker has claimed that his £240 all inclusive trop to Majorca was ruined...."
He's pretty cheerful in all the pics he gave the Daily Mail...and has a glass in his hand.
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No compo face?  |
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"I've Googled...
"A furious British Holidaymaker has claimed that his £240 all inclusive trop to Majorca was ruined...."
He's pretty cheerful in all the pics he gave the Daily Mail...and has a glass in his hand.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ? "
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Because it is advertised as including alcohol, that's why. And if it means only 6 drinks then thats exactly what it should say. Would you accept unlimited phone calls for your mobile then get cut off if you reached a certain amount of calls in a day. I bet you wouldn't. It's all about the wording I'm afraid. I never even knew of this rule but I would be claiming back every drink I paid for from the travel agent if I needed to buy my own drinks after a cut off period on an all inclusive holiday. "
I do, because there's a fair use policy. Ditto on my broadband. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Because it is advertised as including alcohol, that's why. And if it means only 6 drinks then thats exactly what it should say. Would you accept unlimited phone calls for your mobile then get cut off if you reached a certain amount of calls in a day. I bet you wouldn't. It's all about the wording I'm afraid. I never even knew of this rule but I would be claiming back every drink I paid for from the travel agent if I needed to buy my own drinks after a cut off period on an all inclusive holiday.
But it does say this and has done since January, people just aren't reading The Times and conditions.
Are they calling it all inclusive then putting it in the T & C’s about the drinks? That doesn’t seem fair or right.
I was watching Simon Calder the travel expert talk about this the other day. He said that contrary to what people may believe alcoholic drinks do not have to be part of the all inclusive offer for it to be called such, many hotels have had limits for several years. He went on to explain often hotels will still use their discretion in any limit. And on a personal note I would think 6 free alcoholic drinks A-day is enough for anyone.
Ah I see. Never been to one in Europe so didn’t know that. "
It's the same elsewhere in the world.
'All Inclusive' will always have specific T's & C's whether it's what times drinks are free and what drinks are included (premium brands generally aren't), what restaurants are included (a la carte often aren't) and there'll always be a wording around a 'right to limit' any drinks or services.
That's been the case wherever I've been for the last 20+ years, whether the Caribbean, Mexico, Egypt, Thailand, The Canaries, Turkey, Europe or anywhere.
It's often shaped where I've chosen to stay as if the AI is only for domestic beer/spirits between 12-8pm and the free food is the main buffet restaurant only, I'll be looking elsewhere.,
Not because I need to drink copious amounts of free booze but because I like to have options re food and the times I eat drink.
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
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They do highlight it but many don't read it. |
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In the US for example all inclusive very rarely covers alcoholic drinks. I've just googled and the definition of all inclusive of all inclusive means provides all your essentials, So food, drink, activities ect.
So from that I wouldn't have thought they are not false advertising. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it. "
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that  |
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"Just don't go all inclusive, go half board instead and instead of having the little plastic cups of piss, have the nice stuff in a proper glass and go out somewhere nice for lunch instead of the hotel. "
I love this, yes avoid at all costs the all inclusive club. Instead learn the lingo, discover the culture, travel independently preferably to quiet naturist beaches, enjoy the sunshine and have fun on the beach |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that "
You can still get wasted in Spain you just have to pay extra.  |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
You can still get wasted in Spain you just have to pay extra. "
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I'm definitely using the wrong news outlets, that's the second thing in a couple of weeks that's been "all over the news" and completely passed me by.
How they extend a story like that past one day is a mystery too - there must be some real complications involved.
Can anyone recommend a suitable news source for this material please?
On been on BBC and Sky news and most if not all the main daily newspapers at least once in the last 10 days. "
Tom doesn't make this stuff up... |
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"Look at thus way.
How woukd you feel if a load of people came to your town got slaughtered at yourocal bar staggering out screaming howling starting fights abusing locals ect ect ect?
If you ask me it's an excellent idea because I have been embarrassed by these ignorant twats of my so called countrymen far too many times "
^^^What he said. We deliberately look for places to stay that are away from the big tourist areas and away from lots of people getting pissed. We've had some jolly good holidays that way.
Why would you want to trek all the way to somewhere like Tenerife and then sit getting hammered in the Wigan Pier bar, when you live within spitting distance of the actual Wigan Pier, for example?!?! We honestly don't get it. |
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"Well I have never gone all inclusive ever... But would feel ripped off if I got there and it was all in the small print. I imagine some angry holiday makers causing havoc over this.. "
The fact that people don't read what they sign up for and have no respect for the place they're staying or the people around them - I mean, that's not news. It's like saying it rains in Manchester. |
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"Well I have never gone all inclusive ever... But would feel ripped off if I got there and it was all in the small print. I imagine some angry holiday makers causing havoc over this..
The fact that people don't read what they sign up for and have no respect for the place they're staying or the people around them - I mean, that's not news. It's like saying it rains in Manchester."
False! It's sunny right now  |
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"All inclusive are great for people with kids, as you don't mind drinks getting spilt, ice creams dropped and kids not eating food and Dads belly getting bigger with the natpiss beer. It was so much cheaper also."
This is why we use All Inclusive, great for families with young kids |
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"Well I have never gone all inclusive ever... But would feel ripped off if I got there and it was all in the small print. I imagine some angry holiday makers causing havoc over this..
The fact that people don't read what they sign up for and have no respect for the place they're staying or the people around them - I mean, that's not news. It's like saying it rains in Manchester.
False! It's sunny right now "
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Look at thus way.
How woukd you feel if a load of people came to your town got slaughtered at yourocal bar staggering out screaming howling starting fights abusing locals ect ect ect?
If you ask me it's an excellent idea because I have been embarrassed by these ignorant twats of my so called countrymen far too many times
^^^What he said. We deliberately look for places to stay that are away from the big tourist areas and away from lots of people getting pissed. We've had some jolly good holidays that way.
Why would you want to trek all the way to somewhere like Tenerife and then sit getting hammered in the Wigan Pier bar, when you live within spitting distance of the actual Wigan Pier, for example?!?! We honestly don't get it. "
Bit of sun... Simples.. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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One thing never ceases to amaze are those tourists who class everyone else as a tourist except them, judging them, complaining about them and pretty much snobby about them with a huge sense of entitlement that they discovered a little fishing village in Greece which is now grown into a small town and ruined by tourists.. look in the mirror guys.. only one group tops this and that is those who cruise to dine on the Captain's table .. |
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"One thing never ceases to amaze are those tourists who class everyone else as a tourist except them, judging them, complaining about them and pretty much snobby about them with a huge sense of entitlement that they discovered a little fishing village in Greece which is now grown into a small town and ruined by tourists.. look in the mirror guys.. only one group tops this and that is those who cruise to dine on the Captain's table .. "
I thought this thread was about the entitlement of people who like to get shitfaced and who don't like to read contracts? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"One thing never ceases to amaze are those tourists who class everyone else as a tourist except them, judging them, complaining about them and pretty much snobby about them with a huge sense of entitlement that they discovered a little fishing village in Greece which is now grown into a small town and ruined by tourists.. look in the mirror guys.. only one group tops this and that is those who cruise to dine on the Captain's table ..
I thought this thread was about the entitlement of people who like to get shitfaced and who don't like to read contracts?"
Threads are like streams that meander and change course over time. Sometimes the flow rate of messages is high and sometimes the flow reduces almost to a drought. Some always like to find the source of these streams and often it leads to the Foothills of Essex... Just go with the flow..  |
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"One thing never ceases to amaze are those tourists who class everyone else as a tourist except them, judging them, complaining about them and pretty much snobby about them with a huge sense of entitlement that they discovered a little fishing village in Greece which is now grown into a small town and ruined by tourists.. look in the mirror guys.. only one group tops this and that is those who cruise to dine on the Captain's table ..
I thought this thread was about the entitlement of people who like to get shitfaced and who don't like to read contracts?
Threads are like streams that meander and change course over time. Sometimes the flow rate of messages is high and sometimes the flow reduces almost to a drought. Some always like to find the source of these streams and often it leads to the Foothills of Essex... Just go with the flow.. "
Nah. I want to know why over entitled louts get to claim to be the victims, when they've probably been ruining pleasant family holidays for years and being unpleasant to hardworking Spaniards.
Fair use policies apply in all walks of life.
I think this will be beneficial to everyone except the louts.
I don't see a downside. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that "
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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All inclusive drinks are a scam anyway.
When we went to Tunisia the barman tool our drinks back and poured us new ones from a different bottle when he realised we paid for them as half board guests.
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I think the point is being lost somewhat. If it’s not all inclusive then change the wording. Surely. Rather than have small print some may not read. Sounds like my worst nightmare of a holiday so it wouldn’t affect me anyway but I get why some wouldn’t be happy with it. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
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I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them."
The law is the law. In this instance to protect people from unfair contracts and sharp practices. Consumer law should be applauded.
Your points regarding d*unken tourists are a completely different matter that should be dealt with accordingly. |
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"I think the point is being lost somewhat. If it’s not all inclusive then change the wording. Surely. Rather than have small print some may not read. Sounds like my worst nightmare of a holiday so it wouldn’t affect me anyway but I get why some wouldn’t be happy with it. "
But wouldn't that be all nanny state? Rather than trusting people to read their contracts, and to recognise that terms change over time - you know, like mature intelligent responsible adults as we're all assumed to be under the law - we have to go renaming everything and ruining the way things always were?
"All Inclusive Except Alcohol Because Some of You People Can't Be Trusted" doesn't have the same ring to it. Hasn't the travel industry suffered enough? |
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over a year ago
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them."
For some people Tom's threads are like carcrashes on the M11. They don't want to look but can't help themselves...
They are the thread rubberneckers... But all they seem to achieve is annoying all of the other road users... |
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"I think the point is being lost somewhat. If it’s not all inclusive then change the wording. Surely. Rather than have small print some may not read. Sounds like my worst nightmare of a holiday so it wouldn’t affect me anyway but I get why some wouldn’t be happy with it.
But wouldn't that be all nanny state? Rather than trusting people to read their contracts, and to recognise that terms change over time - you know, like mature intelligent responsible adults as we're all assumed to be under the law - we have to go renaming everything and ruining the way things always were?
"All Inclusive Except Alcohol Because Some of You People Can't Be Trusted" doesn't have the same ring to it. Hasn't the travel industry suffered enough?"
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"I think the point is being lost somewhat. If it’s not all inclusive then change the wording. Surely. Rather than have small print some may not read. Sounds like my worst nightmare of a holiday so it wouldn’t affect me anyway but I get why some wouldn’t be happy with it.
But wouldn't that be all nanny state? Rather than trusting people to read their contracts, and to recognise that terms change over time - you know, like mature intelligent responsible adults as we're all assumed to be under the law - we have to go renaming everything and ruining the way things always were?
"All Inclusive Except Alcohol Because Some of You People Can't Be Trusted" doesn't have the same ring to it. Hasn't the travel industry suffered enough?"
All inclusive, except alcohol would be fair. No need to insult customers.  |
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"I think the point is being lost somewhat. If it’s not all inclusive then change the wording. Surely. Rather than have small print some may not read. Sounds like my worst nightmare of a holiday so it wouldn’t affect me anyway but I get why some wouldn’t be happy with it.
But wouldn't that be all nanny state? Rather than trusting people to read their contracts, and to recognise that terms change over time - you know, like mature intelligent responsible adults as we're all assumed to be under the law - we have to go renaming everything and ruining the way things always were?
"All Inclusive Except Alcohol Because Some of You People Can't Be Trusted" doesn't have the same ring to it. Hasn't the travel industry suffered enough?
All inclusive, except alcohol would be fair. No need to insult customers. "
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them.
The law is the law. In this instance to protect people from unfair contracts and sharp practices. Consumer law should be applauded.
Your points regarding d*unken tourists are a completely different matter that should be dealt with accordingly."
The law is indeed the law.
So I should sue my broadband provider because they provide unlimited* internet and I think I'm too special to be aware of the terms of my contract? What a snowflake that would make me, eh? "Reading is for pussies and I wanna do what I wanna do. Yeah it's in my contract and it's been in the news, but I didn't think it'd apply to me, the law is only for criminals and my mummy thinks I'm special"
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them.
The law is the law. In this instance to protect people from unfair contracts and sharp practices. Consumer law should be applauded.
Your points regarding d*unken tourists are a completely different matter that should be dealt with accordingly.
The law is indeed the law.
So I should sue my broadband provider because they provide unlimited* internet and I think I'm too special to be aware of the terms of my contract? What a snowflake that would make me, eh? "Reading is for pussies and I wanna do what I wanna do. Yeah it's in my contract and it's been in the news, but I didn't think it'd apply to me, the law is only for criminals and my mummy thinks I'm special"
A bit like the British tourists who think that since 2020 Spain have built express Irish lanes at immigration "
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them.
For some people Tom's threads are like carcrashes on the M11. They don't want to look but can't help themselves...
They are the thread rubberneckers... But all they seem to achieve is annoying all of the other road users... "
Car crashes? Gosh. This thread has drifted. I thought it was about the delicate little snowflakes who think reading contracts is for other people?
What next?
Freshly roasted and ground coffee that may burn you and some people like to stick up their arses for health but might not be good for you. Yum yum
Get the glorious mane you always wanted with these hair straighteners that you can't use in the bath, or eat, and definitely mustn't stick up your arse when it's turned on.
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By *inx.x3Woman
over a year ago
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"All inclusive drinks are a scam anyway.
When we went to Tunisia the barman tool our drinks back and poured us new ones from a different bottle when he realised we paid for them as half board guests.
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Pretty sure all inclusive drinks are watered down. Having 6 in a AI resort is like having 2 real drinks. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them.
The law is the law. In this instance to protect people from unfair contracts and sharp practices. Consumer law should be applauded.
Your points regarding d*unken tourists are a completely different matter that should be dealt with accordingly.
The law is indeed the law.
So I should sue my broadband provider because they provide unlimited* internet and I think I'm too special to be aware of the terms of my contract? What a snowflake that would make me, eh? "Reading is for pussies and I wanna do what I wanna do. Yeah it's in my contract and it's been in the news, but I didn't think it'd apply to me, the law is only for criminals and my mummy thinks I'm special"
A bit like the British tourists who think that since 2020 Spain have built express Irish lanes at immigration
Oh dear, why so salty? You do like a rant. "
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them.
The law is the law. In this instance to protect people from unfair contracts and sharp practices. Consumer law should be applauded.
Your points regarding d*unken tourists are a completely different matter that should be dealt with accordingly.
The law is indeed the law.
So I should sue my broadband provider because they provide unlimited* internet and I think I'm too special to be aware of the terms of my contract? What a snowflake that would make me, eh? "Reading is for pussies and I wanna do what I wanna do. Yeah it's in my contract and it's been in the news, but I didn't think it'd apply to me, the law is only for criminals and my mummy thinks I'm special"
A bit like the British tourists who think that since 2020 Spain have built express Irish lanes at immigration
Oh dear, why so salty? You do like a rant.
I read contracts and was in the non EU lane before 2020. I'm just grand, ta "
Reading and understanding are very different.
Your immigration status is irrelevant.
Stay grand. |
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys...
Why is it a scam… why does all incl have to include alcoholic drinks at all ?
Errr... Because its called ALL inclusive. Otherwise book full board. I think if UK travel agents advertise these as All Exlusive with out highlighting this caveat in a major way they should be reported to UK trading standards as breaching the Trades Descriptions Act.
They do highlight it but many don't read it.
And a fundamental of English contract law (which, incidentally, is used in many business disputes even when England isn't involved)? If you agree to the contract, whether or not you've read it, you're bound to it.
* Some exceptions may apply, but they tend to be limited to gag clauses like "if you use our free WiFi you will give us your first born child" (really happened). Afraid "can't get absolutely wasted in Spain" probably doesn't rise to that
However such terms cannot be “unfair” or “not in good faith”.
Going to an all you can eat buffet and being told that you are restricted to the amount available would certainly be an unfair term.
This is of course only an example and having never been on one of these all Inclusive holidays, I have no idea how they are marketed.
I can't see how this differs from any other fair use policy, but if someone wants to waste their time going to court over it, more power to them.
The law is the law. In this instance to protect people from unfair contracts and sharp practices. Consumer law should be applauded.
Your points regarding d*unken tourists are a completely different matter that should be dealt with accordingly.
The law is indeed the law.
So I should sue my broadband provider because they provide unlimited* internet and I think I'm too special to be aware of the terms of my contract? What a snowflake that would make me, eh? "Reading is for pussies and I wanna do what I wanna do. Yeah it's in my contract and it's been in the news, but I didn't think it'd apply to me, the law is only for criminals and my mummy thinks I'm special"
A bit like the British tourists who think that since 2020 Spain have built express Irish lanes at immigration
Oh dear, why so salty? You do like a rant.
I read contracts and was in the non EU lane before 2020. I'm just grand, ta
Reading and understanding are very different.
Your immigration status is irrelevant.
Stay grand. "
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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I do think the AI drinks are not the strongest but can't blame the hotels for that to stop d*unkeness. All Tom can say that in different parts of the UK that we handle alcohol differently. We had a northerner in my pub last week who asked for some decent northern bitter and none of that southern pish. They don't sell northern ale in my local but they do serve our local Abbot Ale. After three pints the northerner fell off his bar stool and had to be helped to his room... |
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We have just come back from Magaluf and can confirm that free drinks with afternoon and evening meals only and you get the choice of wine, beer or sangria only unless you want soft drinks which is free all the time, didn’t bother us tbh as we would rather pay and have the bottle from under the bar than the ones on show behind prefer a real drink than watered down stuff. |
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"Look at thus way.
How woukd you feel if a load of people came to your town got slaughtered at yourocal bar staggering out screaming howling starting fights abusing locals ect ect ect?
If you ask me it's an excellent idea because I have been embarrassed by these ignorant twats of my so called countrymen far too many times "
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys..."
People not reading the details before the book is nothing new.
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"It looks like the Spanish are up to their old tricks. Some all inclusive holidaymakers are being limited to six drinks a day when they go on holiday to get slaughtered.
This has been all over the news for a few days ...
What's going on here guys..."
It's no scam. Just read what you're paying for..
Here's a tip for you. Just pay for the room or self catering, if you're hotel does all inclusive, then once you are there, pay for an all inclusive band. Saves you quite a bit, even if you only buy it for the last few days of your holiday, food and beers on the house. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Tom seems to have an issue with Spain at the moment. I wonder what Spain did to cause that "
We should have an inquisition.
We could call it........
'The Spanish Inquisition'
That has a good ring to it.
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"Tom seems to have an issue with Spain at the moment. I wonder what Spain did to cause that
We should have an inquisition.
We could call it........
'The Spanish Inquisition'
That has a good ring to it.
A"
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"Tom seems to have an issue with Spain at the moment. I wonder what Spain did to cause that
We should have an inquisition.
We could call it........
'The Spanish Inquisition'
That has a good ring to it.
A
No-one will expect it!"
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