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over a year ago
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Gawd bless her Maj!
I know she’s previously said that she will never abdicate, but as she gets more frail I wonder if, once the Jubilee is done and dusted, that she will stand back and give Charlie boy a run at being King? |
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As a much younger person with mobility problems, surely the technology exists to convey HM to her engagements? Can we not procure a Class II invalid carriage for her? 4mph is more than enough in the Palace of Westminster, so no need to push the budget to a Class III...
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"As a much younger person with mobility problems, surely the technology exists to convey HM to her engagements? Can we not procure a Class II invalid carriage for her? 4mph is more than enough in the Palace of Westminster, so no need to push the budget to a Class III...
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It may be graver than a mobility issue. |
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"As a much younger person with mobility problems, surely the technology exists to convey HM to her engagements? Can we not procure a Class II invalid carriage for her? 4mph is more than enough in the Palace of Westminster, so no need to push the budget to a Class III...
It may be graver than a mobility issue."
I'm sure it must be, otherwise surely one could come up with a solution. They should be more open and honest nowadays, modern media will just speculate and make up nonsense, unfortunately.
I'm not suggesting they should publish HM's medical records in the S*n, but a more believable explanation might shut people up. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"As a much younger person with mobility problems, surely the technology exists to convey HM to her engagements? Can we not procure a Class II invalid carriage for her? 4mph is more than enough in the Palace of Westminster, so no need to push the budget to a Class III...
It may be graver than a mobility issue.
I'm sure it must be, otherwise surely one could come up with a solution. They should be more open and honest nowadays, modern media will just speculate and make up nonsense, unfortunately.
I'm not suggesting they should publish HM's medical records in the S*n, but a more believable explanation might shut people up."
I haven't read an article about it yet. She managed to get through Philip's memorial service after being told she was unwell.
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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I think with Prince Phillip gone, The Queen has lost her strength. See it so often when a couple who have been together yonks lose their loved one, it’s like a part of them has died too, and they deteriorate.
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"I think with Prince Phillip gone, The Queen has lost her strength. See it so often when a couple who have been together yonks lose their loved one, it’s like a part of them has died too, and they deteriorate.
Hope I’m wrong. "
I thought that too. She's been working tirelessly for decades, with him alongside her.
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
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And then there's the small matter of the regalia, including the Imperial State Crown which tips the scales at nearly 2.5 pounds on its own. |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
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It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident. |
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"I think with Prince Phillip gone, The Queen has lost her strength. See it so often when a couple who have been together yonks lose their loved one, it’s like a part of them has died too, and they deteriorate.
Hope I’m wrong. "
 
Hope she makes it to next month. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
And then there's the small matter of the regalia, including the Imperial State Crown which tips the scales at nearly 2.5 pounds on its own."
Imagine having a 96 year old body and having to carry all that on your shoulders.
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident. "
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her). |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
And then there's the small matter of the regalia, including the Imperial State Crown which tips the scales at nearly 2.5 pounds on its own.
Imagine having a 96 year old body and having to carry all that on your shoulders.
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One imagines that if she was somehow able to physically attend Parliament, that they'd dispense with the regalia. I seem to recall she did not wear the heavy crown last time, but a smaller one. One imagines that the physical presence is more important (in protocol) than the garments, but I might be wrong. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
And then there's the small matter of the regalia, including the Imperial State Crown which tips the scales at nearly 2.5 pounds on its own.
Imagine having a 96 year old body and having to carry all that on your shoulders.
One imagines that if she was somehow able to physically attend Parliament, that they'd dispense with the regalia. I seem to recall she did not wear the heavy crown last time, but a smaller one. One imagines that the physical presence is more important (in protocol) than the garments, but I might be wrong. "
I was just thinking there must be an alternative to something so heavy. I'm thinking she may be handing things over to Charles in readiness for her going.
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I haven't read an article about it yet. She managed to get through Philip's memorial service after being told she was unwell.
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She didn’t have to speak at the memorial though.
Going to parliament and not doing the speech would create even more rumours and stories than there are now imo. |
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I haven't read an article about it yet. She managed to get through Philip's memorial service after being told she was unwell.
She didn’t have to speak at the memorial though.
Going to parliament and not doing the speech would create even more rumours and stories than there are now imo."
I think her presence would be appreciated by the public more than her voice. Sadly I think for the Queen to miss this event she must be alot worse than we are led to believe. |
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To publicly admit that the monarch or senior royalty are in any way weakened is thought to be demoralising for the public, Prince Philip was dying and it was kept quiet until it couldn't be denied any longer.
The queen would be required to speak, seen to be mobile and able to sit or stand to deliver the queen's speech. She's obviously unable to do at least one of those things |
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"Gawd bless her Maj!
I know she’s previously said that she will never abdicate, but as she gets more frail I wonder if, once the Jubilee is done and dusted, that she will stand back and give Charlie boy a run at being King? "
She could make him regent without abdicating. |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her). "
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility.  |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her).
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility. "
Yep. It took us years to convince my mum to have a mobility scooter and my aunt has chosen to stay inside rather than use one, she now only goes out if someone takes her in their car...then complains about loss of independence |
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Despite it being 2022 the monarchy still has it's very in 1522 and any sign of weakness in the body of the monarch is a *bad thing*. I suspect that her maj's refusal to use a wheelchair has more to do with that than Princess Margaret's photo. |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her).
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility.
Yep. It took us years to convince my mum to have a mobility scooter and my aunt has chosen to stay inside rather than use one, she now only goes out if someone takes her in their car...then complains about loss of independence "
I've embraced my wheelchair. It's a tool of enablement and independence. With my wheelchair, I can go out with my family for miles and miles. I can do sports. I can work FT. I can do more or less anything. The main obstacles are societal and structural. Fewer steps, more ramps/lifts and things would be more equitable. |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her).
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility.
Yep. It took us years to convince my mum to have a mobility scooter and my aunt has chosen to stay inside rather than use one, she now only goes out if someone takes her in their car...then complains about loss of independence
I've embraced my wheelchair. It's a tool of enablement and independence. With my wheelchair, I can go out with my family for miles and miles. I can do sports. I can work FT. I can do more or less anything. The main obstacles are societal and structural. Fewer steps, more ramps/lifts and things would be more equitable."
My mum eventually embraced her scooter and went zooming off all over the place. We have similar problems trying to persuade my dad to carry his short white stick to indicate that he's partially sighted. |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her).
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility.
Yep. It took us years to convince my mum to have a mobility scooter and my aunt has chosen to stay inside rather than use one, she now only goes out if someone takes her in their car...then complains about loss of independence
I've embraced my wheelchair. It's a tool of enablement and independence. With my wheelchair, I can go out with my family for miles and miles. I can do sports. I can work FT. I can do more or less anything. The main obstacles are societal and structural. Fewer steps, more ramps/lifts and things would be more equitable.
My mum eventually embraced her scooter and went zooming off all over the place. We have similar problems trying to persuade my dad to carry his short white stick to indicate that he's partially sighted. "
My Dad (almost 83) is refusing to use a walking stick while I push in a WHEELCHAIR alongside him. FFS. I'm trying to work out if I rig up some kind of towing device to tow him behind me! I'm pushed him round a hospital in a wheelchair from my own chair before now. |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her).
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility.
Yep. It took us years to convince my mum to have a mobility scooter and my aunt has chosen to stay inside rather than use one, she now only goes out if someone takes her in their car...then complains about loss of independence
I've embraced my wheelchair. It's a tool of enablement and independence. With my wheelchair, I can go out with my family for miles and miles. I can do sports. I can work FT. I can do more or less anything. The main obstacles are societal and structural. Fewer steps, more ramps/lifts and things would be more equitable.
My mum eventually embraced her scooter and went zooming off all over the place. We have similar problems trying to persuade my dad to carry his short white stick to indicate that he's partially sighted.
My Dad (almost 83) is refusing to use a walking stick while I push in a WHEELCHAIR alongside him. FFS. I'm trying to work out if I rig up some kind of towing device to tow him behind me! I'm pushed him round a hospital in a wheelchair from my own chair before now."
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"Despite it being 2022 the monarchy still has it's very in 1522 and any sign of weakness in the body of the monarch is a *bad thing*. I suspect that her maj's refusal to use a wheelchair has more to do with that than Princess Margaret's photo. "
* Feet in 1522.
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"As a much younger person with mobility problems, surely the technology exists to convey HM to her engagements? Can we not procure a Class II invalid carriage for her? 4mph is more than enough in the Palace of Westminster, so no need to push the budget to a Class III...
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Maybe a custom made motorised wheelchair throne for Her Majesty when doing public engagements. |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her).
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility.
Yep. It took us years to convince my mum to have a mobility scooter and my aunt has chosen to stay inside rather than use one, she now only goes out if someone takes her in their car...then complains about loss of independence
I've embraced my wheelchair. It's a tool of enablement and independence. With my wheelchair, I can go out with my family for miles and miles. I can do sports. I can work FT. I can do more or less anything. The main obstacles are societal and structural. Fewer steps, more ramps/lifts and things would be more equitable."
You're young and motivated. 
The elderly people I know who won't use any aids are more bothered about being seen as 'old' for using them. |
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"As a much younger person with mobility problems, surely the technology exists to convey HM to her engagements? Can we not procure a Class II invalid carriage for her? 4mph is more than enough in the Palace of Westminster, so no need to push the budget to a Class III...
Maybe a custom made motorised wheelchair throne for Her Majesty when doing public engagements."
A basket on the front for her Corgis and a shelf on the back for her crown.  |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her).
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility.
Yep. It took us years to convince my mum to have a mobility scooter and my aunt has chosen to stay inside rather than use one, she now only goes out if someone takes her in their car...then complains about loss of independence
I've embraced my wheelchair. It's a tool of enablement and independence. With my wheelchair, I can go out with my family for miles and miles. I can do sports. I can work FT. I can do more or less anything. The main obstacles are societal and structural. Fewer steps, more ramps/lifts and things would be more equitable.
You're young and motivated.
The elderly people I know who won't use any aids are more bothered about being seen as 'old' for using them. "
I must look old as fuck then |
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"It's been reported as an episodic mobility problem, which I have myself.
When I'm bad I can't sit upright for long, so maybe she can't sit in a chair for the length of time necessary, or doesn't want to be seen in one.
It was reported that she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Because Princess Margaret was photographed in one after her accident.
It's always challenging when someone (anyone) says they never want to be seen in a wheelchair. They're tools of enablement, not disablement. And someone like HM could afford the Ferrari equivalent (if such a thing would benefit her).
Agree and it could be such a positive thing for people to see. However I know how difficult it is to even try and persuade someone to use a walking stick to aid their mobility.
Yep. It took us years to convince my mum to have a mobility scooter and my aunt has chosen to stay inside rather than use one, she now only goes out if someone takes her in their car...then complains about loss of independence
I've embraced my wheelchair. It's a tool of enablement and independence. With my wheelchair, I can go out with my family for miles and miles. I can do sports. I can work FT. I can do more or less anything. The main obstacles are societal and structural. Fewer steps, more ramps/lifts and things would be more equitable.
You're young and motivated.
The elderly people I know who won't use any aids are more bothered about being seen as 'old' for using them. "
I think that's it. My dad (95) was deeply offended because someone gave him their seat on the bus. He asked me "do I look old?" Fortunately he and I have the kind of relationship where I can laugh outright and say " what do you think you daft old bugger? " and he sees the joke |
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