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over a year ago
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"Should they only be for the poor ?
Who else do you think they should be for?
Everyone is taking a hit.. they could be for everyone "
They are for people that literally cannot put food on the table for them and their kids.
People who actually can afford this then I don’t think they should need to.
Times are hard, but these banks only have limited resources as they heavily rely on donations.
I wouldn’t go because even though times are hard I can still afford to eat and I wouldn’t take a meal out of someone’s mouth to be fair. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How do you prove who is genuinely poor though?
I must admit, the community centre around the corner from me offer "free food that the supermarkets are throwing away".
I'm not sure if that's the same thing but they don't advertise themselves as a food bank. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How do you prove who is genuinely poor though?
I must admit, the community centre around the corner from me offer "free food that the supermarkets are throwing away".
I'm not sure if that's the same thing but they don't advertise themselves as a food bank."
I have volunteered at food banks. They all have slightly different criteria however almost all of them you need to have a referral.
It isn't necessarily about proving you are poor, It's all about need and most people would be quite surprised that lots of people attending food banks are people where at least one are person in the household is working.
In most cases its in an emergency situation or when something unexpected happens. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How do you prove who is genuinely poor though?
I must admit, the community centre around the corner from me offer "free food that the supermarkets are throwing away".
I'm not sure if that's the same thing but they don't advertise themselves as a food bank.
I have volunteered at food banks. They all have slightly different criteria however almost all of them you need to have a referral.
It isn't necessarily about proving you are poor, It's all about need and most people would be quite surprised that lots of people attending food banks are people where at least one are person in the household is working.
In most cases its in an emergency situation or when something unexpected happens. "
I volunteered at one for a while too. Mostly a mix of emergencies and people living chaotic lives. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tom met a lady who literally and I mean literally cannot now afford the lighting where her horses exercise..
Surely she should be eligible.. "
Neigh, Tom. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should they only be for the poor ?
Who else do you think they should be for?
Everyone is taking a hit.. they could be for everyone
They are for people that literally cannot put food on the table for them and their kids.
People who actually can afford this then I don’t think they should need to.
Times are hard, but these banks only have limited resources as they heavily rely on donations.
I wouldn’t go because even though times are hard I can still afford to eat and I wouldn’t take a meal out of someone’s mouth to be fair."
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"Tom met a lady who literally and I mean literally cannot now afford the lighting where her horses exercise..
Surely she should be eligible.. "
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Can't the horses just exercise in daylight for free? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis.
And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How do you prove who is genuinely poor though?
I must admit, the community centre around the corner from me offer "free food that the supermarkets are throwing away".
I'm not sure if that's the same thing but they don't advertise themselves as a food bank.
I have volunteered at food banks. They all have slightly different criteria however almost all of them you need to have a referral.
It isn't necessarily about proving you are poor, It's all about need and most people would be quite surprised that lots of people attending food banks are people where at least one are person in the household is working.
In most cases its in an emergency situation or when something unexpected happens.
I volunteered at one for a while too. Mostly a mix of emergencies and people living chaotic lives. "
Agreed. I definitely noticed a shift in the people using it form people on benefits or living chaotic lives to people who where working or normally coped ok. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No Tom they shouldn’t be for everyone. They should be for people who can’t afford food.
And the elderly  "
Why? Just because somebody is old doesn't mean they can't afford food. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Tom you’ve done this thread before. Why do you hate us so much  "
Well alternativly it's Fishnet Friday thread.. feel free...
Toms threads might be old and tired but they are still his threads ... |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Should they only be for the poor ?"
Depends how you define poor. A woman I know has a nice big house, 3 kids and 4WD and her husband just walked out leaving her with zero income. While waiting months for benefits she used the food bank much to a lot of people’s disgust.
They were designed to be for emergencies like that and not a permanent solution for low income subsidy, the government are responsible for that |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Should they only be for the poor ?
Depends how you define poor. A woman I know has a nice big house, 3 kids and 4WD and her husband just walked out leaving her with zero income. While waiting months for benefits she used the food bank much to a lot of people’s disgust.
They were designed to be for emergencies like that and not a permanent solution for low income subsidy, the government are responsible for that "
Tom is going to fill his boots literally with this free food.
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Depends how you define poor. A woman I know has a nice big house, 3 kids and 4WD and her husband just walked out leaving her with zero income. "
Could she have sold the 4WD while waiting for her benefits ? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Depends how you define poor. A woman I know has a nice big house, 3 kids and 4WD and her husband just walked out leaving her with zero income.
Could she have sold the 4WD while waiting for her benefits ?"
She needs that car go take the kids to school and music lessons |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis.
Hear hear xx
And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist."
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Should they only be for the poor ?
Depends how you define poor. A woman I know has a nice big house, 3 kids and 4WD and her husband just walked out leaving her with zero income. While waiting months for benefits she used the food bank much to a lot of people’s disgust.
They were designed to be for emergencies like that and not a permanent solution for low income subsidy, the government are responsible for that "
It's turning into a dog eat dog society and the top dogs will take the spoils..
Whats going on here guys |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends how you define poor. A woman I know has a nice big house, 3 kids and 4WD and her husband just walked out leaving her with zero income.
Could she have sold the 4WD while waiting for her benefits ?"
If she had done that she would have to much money and would not have entitled until the money ran out and back to square one. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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Depends how you define poor. A woman I know has a nice big house, 3 kids and 4WD and her husband just walked out leaving her with zero income.
Could she have sold the 4WD while waiting for her benefits ?"
Course she could, or some clothes, jewellery or worked or begged ? most people have choices but in crisis and grief it’s hard to make choices and you need time to plan. And maybe not having a vehicle with 3 kids and not living near a school and needing to look for work wasn’t a good choice |
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"Tom met a lady who literally and I mean literally cannot now afford the lighting where her horses exercise..
Surely she should be eligible.. "
Hey Tom tell your mate to exercise her Horses during the day or early evening...get those Horses out of the Exercise arena's, can be so boring for them to be exercised in them daily. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Tom met a lady who literally and I mean literally cannot now afford the lighting where her horses exercise..
Surely she should be eligible..
Hey Tom tell your mate to exercise her Horses during the day or early evening...get those Horses out of the Exercise arena's, can be so boring for them to be exercised in them daily. "
It's after school they run classes for children. They need those lights in the winter |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I volunteered at one during lockdown. Most of the people that we dealt with were addicts or people with mental illness. Not as many poor families as you might think. "
Mlre and more families will come as heating costs, fuel costs and food costs rise..
There will literally be people fighting in the queues at food banks...mark my words |
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"Tom met a lady who literally and I mean literally cannot now afford the lighting where her horses exercise..
Surely she should be eligible..
Hey Tom tell your mate to exercise her Horses during the day or early evening...get those Horses out of the Exercise arena's, can be so boring for them to be exercised in them daily.
It's after school they run classes for children. They need those lights in the winter"
Yes they will do in the winter...but it's a while till those lights are needed. |
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"I volunteered at one during lockdown. Most of the people that we dealt with were addicts or people with mental illness. Not as many poor families as you might think. "
That's the thing...some people have their priorities all wrong...bills, food and heating are and should be priority over drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I volunteered at one during lockdown. Most of the people that we dealt with were addicts or people with mental illness. Not as many poor families as you might think.
That's the thing...some people have their priorities all wrong...bills, food and heating are and should be priority over drugs, alcohol and cigarettes. "
Exactly this... If you can't afford to eat but have full Sky access, a 50" plasma TV, Netflix, Disney +, Amazon Prime, 20 Fags a day, your fill of alcohol and a mobile phone contract of £50 per person per household then maybe you can afford to eat, but you choose luxury over necessity... |
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"I volunteered at one during lockdown. Most of the people that we dealt with were addicts or people with mental illness. Not as many poor families as you might think.
That's the thing...some people have their priorities all wrong...bills, food and heating are and should be priority over drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.
Exactly this... If you can't afford to eat but have full Sky access, a 50" plasma TV, Netflix, Disney +, Amazon Prime, 20 Fags a day, your fill of alcohol and a mobile phone contract of £50 per person per household then maybe you can afford to eat, but you choose luxury over necessity..."
The above only applies to the fantasy world in the heads of Daily Mail readers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?"
They sort of are.
In most you have to a referral, you can't just turn up. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?"
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I volunteered at one during lockdown. Most of the people that we dealt with were addicts or people with mental illness. Not as many poor families as you might think.
That's the thing...some people have their priorities all wrong...bills, food and heating are and should be priority over drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.
Exactly this... If you can't afford to eat but have full Sky access, a 50" plasma TV, Netflix, Disney +, Amazon Prime, 20 Fags a day, your fill of alcohol and a mobile phone contract of £50 per person per household then maybe you can afford to eat, but you choose luxury over necessity..."
You are living in fantasy if you believe this. Of course you always get a few who abuse the system but the vast majority don't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I volunteered at one during lockdown. Most of the people that we dealt with were addicts or people with mental illness. Not as many poor families as you might think.
That's the thing...some people have their priorities all wrong...bills, food and heating are and should be priority over drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.
Exactly this... If you can't afford to eat but have full Sky access, a 50" plasma TV, Netflix, Disney +, Amazon Prime, 20 Fags a day, your fill of alcohol and a mobile phone contract of £50 per person per household then maybe you can afford to eat, but you choose luxury over necessity...
The above only applies to the fantasy world in the heads of Daily Mail readers."
Classic case of media manipulation at it's finest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it..."
Ridiculous! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"We have food banks in Cornwall
And food share, green to stop food waste
Ironically St Ives in Cornwall is one of the poorest areas in UK "
How long in St Ives do you have to work to pay for a Greggs sausage roll? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tom met a lady who literally and I mean literally cannot now afford the lighting where her horses exercise..
Surely she should be eligible.. "
Trolling loooolllll |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well when we hit lockdown two years ago, I couldn't afford food so I had no choice. I phoned my local food bank place and they were more than happy to give me food bags. They told me that they weren't just for the elderly, that they were for anyone who needed help. I'll be forever grateful to them x |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it...
Ridiculous!"
Ridiculous.. do you are in Tesco and they have their crate to donate to the food bank.. you put in your tea bags and pasta sauce .. but the person receiving has a better sky package than you plus Netflix, three dogs and smoke and drink.. ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it...
Ridiculous!
Ridiculous.. do you are in Tesco and they have their crate to donate to the food bank.. you put in your tea bags and pasta sauce .. but the person receiving has a better sky package than you plus Netflix, three dogs and smoke and drink.. ?"
Nobody is forcing you to give food. If you choose to do so it doesn't you a right to decide who is "deserving" and who isn't.
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Everyone is taking a hit.. they could be for everyone
They are for people that literally cannot put food on the table for them and their kids.
People who actually can afford this then I don’t think they should need to.
Times are hard, but these banks only have limited resources as they heavily rely on donations.
I wouldn’t go because even though times are hard I can still afford to eat and I wouldn’t take a meal out of someone’s mouth to be fair."
But what about those people that can afford a new iPhone, sky TV, 20 Fags a day, 15 pints at the weekend, but can't put food on the table..q.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Everyone is taking a hit.. they could be for everyone
They are for people that literally cannot put food on the table for them and their kids.
People who actually can afford this then I don’t think they should need to.
Times are hard, but these banks only have limited resources as they heavily rely on donations.
I wouldn’t go because even though times are hard I can still afford to eat and I wouldn’t take a meal out of someone’s mouth to be fair.
But what about those people that can afford a new iPhone, sky TV, 20 Fags a day, 15 pints at the weekend, but can't put food on the table..q.."
They are not using food banks. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it...
Ridiculous!
Ridiculous.. do you are in Tesco and they have their crate to donate to the food bank.. you put in your tea bags and pasta sauce .. but the person receiving has a better sky package than you plus Netflix, three dogs and smoke and drink.. ?
Nobody is forcing you to give food. If you choose to do so it doesn't you a right to decide who is "deserving" and who isn't.
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Well I have never donated. I never give a penny to so called charities ever..
But I know human nature only too well.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it...
Ridiculous!
Ridiculous.. do you are in Tesco and they have their crate to donate to the food bank.. you put in your tea bags and pasta sauce .. but the person receiving has a better sky package than you plus Netflix, three dogs and smoke and drink.. ?
Nobody is forcing you to give food. If you choose to do so it doesn't you a right to decide who is "deserving" and who isn't.
Well I have never donated. I never give a penny to so called charities ever..
But I know human nature only too well.. "
You don't though, you just think you do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some people on this thread who clearly hate poor people it's so strange to read.
Food banks should be for anyone in need, if you don't know peoples circumstances then you shouldn't really comment.
So what if people have iphones or netflix ffs |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some people on this thread who clearly hate poor people it's so strange to read.
Food banks should be for anyone in need, if you don't know peoples circumstances then you shouldn't really comment.
So what if people have iphones or netflix ffs "
The thing is the majority of these people have never stepped foot inside a food bank in their lives and just read the crap that's put in some media. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Some people on this thread who clearly hate poor people it's so strange to read.
Food banks should be for anyone in need, if you don't know peoples circumstances then you shouldn't really comment.
So what if people have iphones or netflix ffs "
Well, if you choose the latest iPhone 13 contract and put that choice ahead of food then quite frankly you are not in need. You have put yourself at need ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some people on this thread who clearly hate poor people it's so strange to read.
Food banks should be for anyone in need, if you don't know peoples circumstances then you shouldn't really comment.
So what if people have iphones or netflix ffs
The thing is the majority of these people have never stepped foot inside a food bank in their lives and just read the crap that's put in some media. "
Oh 100%
Also netflix is £5 a month, I doubt that would make much of a difference to someone needing to put a month's worth of food on the table |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some people on this thread who clearly hate poor people it's so strange to read.
Food banks should be for anyone in need, if you don't know peoples circumstances then you shouldn't really comment.
So what if people have iphones or netflix ffs
Well, if you choose the latest iPhone 13 contract and put that choice ahead of food then quite frankly you are not in need. You have put yourself at need ..."
How many people do you know what use food banks that have the latest iPhone 13 contract? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not "
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Some people on this thread who clearly hate poor people it's so strange to read.
Food banks should be for anyone in need, if you don't know peoples circumstances then you shouldn't really comment.
So what if people have iphones or netflix ffs
Well, if you choose the latest iPhone 13 contract and put that choice ahead of food then quite frankly you are not in need. You have put yourself at need ...
How many people do you know what use food banks that have the latest iPhone 13 contract?"
Three... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?"
I can't imagine there are very many people that own horses that are using a food bank. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?"
You carry on making up hypothetical scenarios to deflect from the fact that you're an unsympathetic person who doesn't think people in need should recieve help.
Cause who was talking about horses?? |
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
I can't imagine there are very many people that own horses that are using a food bank. "
This guy is pulling things out of thin air to try and make his point
Classic troll account if I ever saw one |
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Sad to see that every time a thread like this comes up you get those pontificating about cheats and scroungers etc. I am not interested into the few that might fit that category. Only interested in those in need. I rather have compassion for my fellow human beings than be bitter about the few that might benefit undeservedly. After all you never know what might happen to any of us. Each to their own but I find the attitude of some people quite appaling  |
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
I can't imagine there are very many people that own horses that are using a food bank. "
People who own horses can’t lose their job and fall on hard times? |
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"I don’t class a phone as a luxury Tom. "
Absolutely in fact broadband and mobile phone bills are now considered an essential bill. You would struggle to claim benefits without access to the Internet and almost impossible to apply for Jobs without it. |
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"Sad to see that every time a thread like this comes up you get those pontificating about cheats and scroungers etc. I am not interested into the few that might fit that category. Only interested in those in need. I rather have compassion for my fellow human beings than be bitter about the few that might benefit undeservedly. After all you never know what might happen to any of us. Each to their own but I find the attitude of some people quite appaling "
Very sad but you can almost guarantee that these kind of people always come out of the wood work whenever the topic of poor people comes up |
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" I never give a penny to so called charities ever..
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Not sure that's something you should sound quite so proud about, Tom. I sincerely hope you never need help from a charity (though these pesky charities are also finding cures for cancer and the like, to all our benefit), but if everyone took the same attitude the world would be a much worse place. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
You carry on making up hypothetical scenarios to deflect from the fact that you're an unsympathetic person who doesn't think people in need should recieve help.
Cause who was talking about horses?? "
Agreed, I am not sympathetic, I have next to no empathy, I give nothing to charity, I have more hate than love in my heart.. I actually despise Christmas and I enjoy being miserable... But hey we are all different.. |
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
You carry on making up hypothetical scenarios to deflect from the fact that you're an unsympathetic person who doesn't think people in need should recieve help.
Cause who was talking about horses??
Agreed, I am not sympathetic, I have next to no empathy, I give nothing to charity, I have more hate than love in my heart.. I actually despise Christmas and I enjoy being miserable... But hey we are all different.. "
We already know this about you based on the posts you make in this and other threads on the forum.
But nice to see that you're self aware. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
You carry on making up hypothetical scenarios to deflect from the fact that you're an unsympathetic person who doesn't think people in need should recieve help.
Cause who was talking about horses??
Agreed, I am not sympathetic, I have next to no empathy, I give nothing to charity, I have more hate than love in my heart.. I actually despise Christmas and I enjoy being miserable... But hey we are all different..
We already know this about you based on the posts you make in this and other threads on the forum.
But nice to see that you're self aware. "
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
You carry on making up hypothetical scenarios to deflect from the fact that you're an unsympathetic person who doesn't think people in need should recieve help.
Cause who was talking about horses??
Agreed, I am not sympathetic, I have next to no empathy, I give nothing to charity, I have more hate than love in my heart.. I actually despise Christmas and I enjoy being miserable... But hey we are all different.. "
Not a great way to live. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
You carry on making up hypothetical scenarios to deflect from the fact that you're an unsympathetic person who doesn't think people in need should recieve help.
Cause who was talking about horses??
Agreed, I am not sympathetic, I have next to no empathy, I give nothing to charity, I have more hate than love in my heart.. I actually despise Christmas and I enjoy being miserable... But hey we are all different..
Not a great way to live. "
Let's celebrate diversity tho |
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
You carry on making up hypothetical scenarios to deflect from the fact that you're an unsympathetic person who doesn't think people in need should recieve help.
Cause who was talking about horses??
Agreed, I am not sympathetic, I have next to no empathy, I give nothing to charity, I have more hate than love in my heart.. I actually despise Christmas and I enjoy being miserable... But hey we are all different..
Not a great way to live.
Let's celebrate diversity tho"
Why should we, because you don't. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I regularly donate because thank fully I'm in a position financially to be able to do so.
I give to food banks, I give money to the homeless and if I don't have money on me I'll ask the homeless guy outside asda if he wants me to buy him anything while I'm inside.
I wouldn't dream of judging someone who's in need and talking about their personal possessions as a gauge to whether they need help or not
So if they own horses they are still eligible then.. ?
You carry on making up hypothetical scenarios to deflect from the fact that you're an unsympathetic person who doesn't think people in need should recieve help.
Cause who was talking about horses??
Agreed, I am not sympathetic, I have next to no empathy, I give nothing to charity, I have more hate than love in my heart.. I actually despise Christmas and I enjoy being miserable... But hey we are all different..
Not a great way to live.
Let's celebrate diversity tho
Why should we, because you don't. "
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"Sad to see that every time a thread like this comes up you get those pontificating about cheats and scroungers etc. I am not interested into the few that might fit that category. Only interested in those in need. I rather have compassion for my fellow human beings than be bitter about the few that might benefit undeservedly. After all you never know what might happen to any of us. Each to their own but I find the attitude of some people quite appaling
Very sad but you can almost guarantee that these kind of people always come out of the wood work whenever the topic of poor people comes up "
I have noticed. Any minute now you will get someone to tell us that they had nothing grpwing up and look at them now and everyone should get up from their arse and do the same. If life was that simple for everyone. Most people try to do their best every day for their family and themselves.As I said, I am not interested if a few get benefits that may not deserve. That attitude deflects from supporting those that need all the support they can get. As I posted before these are the same people who have no sympathy for disabled people and the horrific, torturous hurdles they have to go through their claims but happy to focus on the few media stories about someone who walked down the street when they were not meant to be able to walk. I have no interest in even discussing anything with people with such indoctrinated minds so I am out. |
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Well personal choice, and all that, but without a certain charity I wouldn't be here, saved my life helped me start, again so I give back to them, and I also give to food banks when I can, just my own personal business |
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I used a "pantry" for the first time today.
Food donated from shops etc.
£4.50, you get 10 items, plus free fruit/veg/bread and personal care items.
Going to be a massive help over the next few months. |
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food banks shouldnt be used by the poor/working class here.
Really it should be for those that cannot recieve benefit payments.
Which it was that way at one time.
The system is wrong when you need to goto a food bank.
However saying that if the area you live in is too expensive you either move to a cheaper area or suffer.
Really you cant complain as your prepared to except the highe living area or better known the posh areas.
Food banks is the start for the gov to refuse full payments except bill payments.
You will be expected to goto foodbanks instead for your food.
or better known as food vouchers.
Bill payments is elec, gas, water and not sure on tv license.
Expected bill expenses 30-40.00 and thats all you will get.
Dont forget this also includes your online by default aproach as well. |
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it..."
As if the volunteers don't have enough to do either... |
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"food banks shouldnt be used by the poor/working class here.
Really it should be for those that cannot recieve benefit payments.
Which it was that way at one time.
The system is wrong when you need to goto a food bank.
However saying that if the area you live in is too expensive you either move to a cheaper area or suffer.
Really you cant complain as your prepared to except the highe living area or better known the posh areas.
Food banks is the start for the gov to refuse full payments except bill payments.
You will be expected to goto foodbanks instead for your food.
or better known as food vouchers.
Bill payments is elec, gas, water and not sure on tv license.
Expected bill expenses 30-40.00 and thats all you will get.
Dont forget this also includes your online by default aproach as well."
By your logic we should go back to having ghettos and slums then. |
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it...
As if the volunteers don't have enough to do either..."
But that's what the volunteers do, that was my role to check the referrals. |
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it...
As if the volunteers don't have enough to do either...
But that's what the volunteers do, that was my role to check the referrals. "
Actually visiting their homes.? |
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"food banks shouldnt be used by the poor/working class here.
Really it should be for those that cannot recieve benefit payments.
Which it was that way at one time.
The system is wrong when you need to goto a food bank.
However saying that if the area you live in is too expensive you either move to a cheaper area or suffer.
Really you cant complain as your prepared to except the highe living area or better known the posh areas.
Food banks is the start for the gov to refuse full payments except bill payments.
You will be expected to goto foodbanks instead for your food.
or better known as food vouchers.
Bill payments is elec, gas, water and not sure on tv license.
Expected bill expenses 30-40.00 and thats all you will get.
Dont forget this also includes your online by default aproach as well.
By your logic we should go back to having ghettos and slums then. "
Food banks is american reference where those that shop at food stores.
Can either add to the tins or they use the shops offers to put free tins into the foodbank.
you the people provide for other people but you wont provide if you cant afford it. |
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it...
As if the volunteers don't have enough to do either...
But that's what the volunteers do, that was my role to check the referrals.
Actually visiting their homes.?"
No of course not. I'm just saying checks are made. |
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By your logic we should go back to having ghettos and slums then. "
if you want my logic
Im willing to pay a little extra to live in that better area.
I dont see that I have a right to goto a food bank and collect a food parcel because I made a choice to stay put. |
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By your logic we should go back to having ghettos and slums then.
if you want my logic
Im willing to pay a little extra to live in that better area.
I dont see that I have a right to goto a food bank and collect a food parcel because I made a choice to stay put."
You are clueless! Anyone can fall on hard times. Where exactly are these cheap areas to live? |
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"Should food banks be policed ?
Policed by police.? Don't you think they have enough to cope with already.?
No. Not by police.. there are not any left but before a parcel is given out that their homes are visited and checked in case they are at it...
As if the volunteers don't have enough to do either...
But that's what the volunteers do, that was my role to check the referrals.
Actually visiting their homes.?
No of course not. I'm just saying checks are made. "
The OP was suggesting that home visits should be made... |
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"Should they only be for the poor ?"
They should be for whoever needs them
I'm lucky, never needed to use them but I always donate what I can regularly because nobody knows what's around the corner |
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"Are home visits carried out? Some people probably sell the food for drugs and alcohol..
There should be inspections.
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Some people should have their heads inspected to check if there's anything in the void above. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Are home visits carried out? Some people probably sell the food for drugs and alcohol..
There should be inspections.
Some people should have their heads inspected to check if there's anything in the void above. "
Not you again... |
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I think that if someone feels the need to go to a foodbank then regardless of their outward appearance they should be treated with the same respect whether they turned up by foot or in a Rolls Royce
If they think they need it then they need it in
My opinion
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I think that if someone feels the need to go to a foodbank then regardless of their outward appearance they should be treated with the same respect whether they turned up by foot or in a Rolls Royce
If they think they need it then they need it in
My opinion
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Agreed...even Tom is putting the feelers out...
The nugget in the basket would be a ton of...ye olde ham |
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"Are home visits carried out? Some people probably sell the food for drugs and alcohol..
There should be inspections.
Some people should have their heads inspected to check if there's anything in the void above. "
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"Should they only be for the poor ?
Who else do you think they should be for?
Everyone is taking a hit.. they could be for everyone "
Since people have to buy stuff to donate to food banks, what you are describing is just shopping. |
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"Are home visits carried out? Some people probably sell the food for drugs and alcohol..
There should be inspections.
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Why? And iv already told you people that use a food bank bank have to referred by a recognised agency or in some cases the police or school staff. These people know the Circumstances of the people they refer. |
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"Should they only be for the poor ?
Who else do you think they should be for?
Everyone is taking a hit.. they could be for everyone
They are for people that literally cannot put food on the table for them and their kids.
People who actually can afford this then I don’t think they should need to.
Times are hard, but these banks only have limited resources as they heavily rely on donations.
I wouldn’t go because even though times are hard I can still afford to eat and I wouldn’t take a meal out of someone’s mouth to be fair."
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Whats depressing is that on tv this woman said she is refusing to vote Labour because they will take foodbanks away.
No matter how much the interviewer tried to explain that under labour she wouldn't need food banks, she just didn't get it, and thought it meant she'd not have access to food.
*face palm* and this is the electorate we have |
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over a year ago
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"Are home visits carried out? Some people probably sell the food for drugs and alcohol..
There should be inspections.
Why? And iv already told you people that use a food bank bank have to referred by a recognised agency or in some cases the police or school staff. These people know the Circumstances of the people they refer. "
What would they inspect anyway? Look in their fridge to see what's in there, or see if they have a television or jewellery they can flog for a bit of shopping? |
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As in most things , some people will abuse it , if anything is free people will take for the sake of taking , in Birmingham city centre the Sikhs give out free meals from a van , some people think this is a free take away service , I’ve watched people pull up in cars get there food and drive off |
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"Nobody should get benefits that they don't deserve..."
With uk 2.3bn benefit fraud unfortunately thats inevitable Tom. Lots of people are out for nothing, but when that impacts on anyone who needs help, it is truly horrific  |
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"Whats depressing is that on tv this woman said she is refusing to vote Labour because they will take foodbanks away.
No matter how much the interviewer tried to explain that under labour she wouldn't need food banks, she just didn't get it, and thought it meant she'd not have access to food.
*face palm* and this is the electorate we have "
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"Whats depressing is that on tv this woman said she is refusing to vote Labour because they will take foodbanks away.
No matter how much the interviewer tried to explain that under labour she wouldn't need food banks, she just didn't get it, and thought it meant she'd not have access to food.
*face palm* and this is the electorate we have "
After the last GE, they interviewed people on the news and asked why the voted Tory.
"We wanted change" was the answer a few people gave.
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"As in most things , some people will abuse it , if anything is free people will take for the sake of taking , in Birmingham city centre the Sikhs give out free meals from a van , some people think this is a free take away service , I’ve watched people pull up in cars get there food and drive off "
That doesn't mean that they don't need a free meal just because they have access to a car. Could be a family who have experienced an unexpected expense or emergency or Somebody is picking it up on behalf of someone else. I guess it's easy to judge until we someone's story. |
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Not all those dishing out food / toiletries supplies are official food banks that you need to be approved to collect your bag.
Just in our two sq miles, which is home to the glitzy ever rising tower blocks full of bankers & alike (a very small part of the borough) two three streets away are the true residents of the borough, not the daily visitors. To look after them, we currently have one ‘official’ food bank, 4 charities that give out hot meals every evening 7 days a week. As well as two organisations that take donations of anything & everything from restaurants, shops and residents to ensure no one is going hungry or have the basic toiletries needed.
The last two are there for anyone who needs it. Which could be a family or single person, all working, but nearing the end of the month and with rising bills, just not enough left to feed themselves.
It works and there is a good community spirit, if you have spare or something someone else can use you pass it on. The charities / organisations can only operate from all the donations that others give.
There are similar all through the borough.
After that ramble, NO food banks or what you think are food banks shouldn’t be limited. Circumstances sometimes dictate you may end up there yourself one day and if you can why wouldn’t you help others not so fortunate as yourself |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ? |
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"Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ?"
How can you tax something that has already been paid for and then donated for others to use ?!?
Give your head a wobble |
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"Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ?
How can you tax something that has already been paid for and then donated for others to use ?!?
Give your head a wobble "
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"Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ?
How can you tax something that has already been paid for and then donated for others to use ?!?
Give your head a wobble "
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"food banks shouldnt be used by the poor/working class here.
Really it should be for those that cannot recieve benefit payments.
Which it was that way at one time.
The system is wrong when you need to goto a food bank.
However saying that if the area you live in is too expensive you either move to a cheaper area or suffer.
Really you cant complain as your prepared to except the highe living area or better known the posh areas.
Food banks is the start for the gov to refuse full payments except bill payments.
You will be expected to goto foodbanks instead for your food.
or better known as food vouchers.
Bill payments is elec, gas, water and not sure on tv license.
Expected bill expenses 30-40.00 and thats all you will get.
Dont forget this also includes your online by default aproach as well."
What?! |
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over a year ago
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"Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ?
How can you tax something that has already been paid for and then donated for others to use ?!?
Give your head a wobble "
Well you pay your income tax and then you pay for your petrol with money you have already been taxed on and then you pay tolls and on and on it goes... Labour cannot allow food banks on their watch.. Either that or take a big slice of the pie if that makes sense.. Keith Starmer will get elected then soon ousted by the jack boots of the left ..
Tom is no typical thinker but he knows his onions |
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"Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ?"
They could tax any spare fruit such as apples and pears which people donate from their gardens. It would be a windfall tax. |
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"Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ?
How can you tax something that has already been paid for and then donated for others to use ?!?
Give your head a wobble
Well you pay your income tax and then you pay for your petrol with money you have already been taxed on and then you pay tolls and on and on it goes... Labour cannot allow food banks on their watch.. Either that or take a big slice of the pie if that makes sense.. Keith Starmer will get elected then soon ousted by the jack boots of the left ..
Tom is no typical thinker but he knows his onions"
Question still stands how can you pay tax on donations when no money is being swapped ?
So if Starmer gets elected how is he proposing to feed all these people that currently use them? |
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"Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ?
How can you tax something that has already been paid for and then donated for others to use ?!?
Give your head a wobble
Well you pay your income tax and then you pay for your petrol with money you have already been taxed on and then you pay tolls and on and on it goes... Labour cannot allow food banks on their watch.. Either that or take a big slice of the pie if that makes sense.. Keith Starmer will get elected then soon ousted by the jack boots of the left ..
Tom is no typical thinker but he knows his onions
Question still stands how can you pay tax on donations when no money is being swapped ?
So if Starmer gets elected how is he proposing to feed all these people that currently use them? "
That last question is what I’d like the answer to. |
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"Will Labour stop this food bank trade... They are likely to get in and it would probably be an embarrassment for them if food banks were running under their leadership.. would labour tax the food banks like they say they will tax the oil giants ?
How can you tax something that has already been paid for and then donated for others to use ?!?
Give your head a wobble
Well you pay your income tax and then you pay for your petrol with money you have already been taxed on and then you pay tolls and on and on it goes... Labour cannot allow food banks on their watch.. Either that or take a big slice of the pie if that makes sense.. Keith Starmer will get elected then soon ousted by the jack boots of the left ..
Tom is no typical thinker but he knows his onions
Question still stands how can you pay tax on donations when no money is being swapped ?
So if Starmer gets elected how is he proposing to feed all these people that currently use them? "
I wonder if you can do gift aid on food donations to foodbanks, I know you can on items you donate to charity shops but then I guess that's because the items get sold. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Tom is an expert in many fields but tax evasion is not emongst them. He wonders if receiving this food is a 'benefit in kind' and should be declared. Perhaps they will take it off any benefits they receive.. |
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"Tom is an expert in many fields but tax evasion is not emongst them. He wonders if receiving this food is a 'benefit in kind' and should be declared. Perhaps they will take it off any benefits they receive.. "
Oh shush. Trying to get a rise by posting (very obviously) inflammatory nonsense is quite unnecessary. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"Tom is an expert in many fields but tax evasion is not emongst them. He wonders if receiving this food is a 'benefit in kind' and should be declared. Perhaps they will take it off any benefits they receive..
Oh shush. Trying to get a rise by posting (very obviously) inflammatory nonsense is quite unnecessary. "
You shush ! |
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