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A positive thread about race. For a change.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff. 
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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"We all breath the same air.
We all drink the same water.
We all bleed if you cut us.
And we all taste a bit like chicken....."
Not wanting to spoil the good vibe by disagreeing, but isn't it pork we all taste a bit like?
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Its nice to see something you are passionate about though 
We just only occasionally can find the right mix of debate on here as the varying factors are immense as we all have off days.
Also we should discuss the questionable topics more without fear of it turning into a shit show.
Maybe today's the day to start one |
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Love this OP. Race, sexuality, age and gender inequalities are issues that people face daily.
Whilst it might appear jarring to those not affected by those issues, imagine how jarring it is for those faced with (and reminded of) these issues everyday.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Love this OP. Race, sexuality, age and gender inequalities are issues that people face daily.
Whilst it might appear jarring to those not affected by those issues, imagine how jarring it is for those faced with (and reminded of) these issues everyday.
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Literally. Reminds me of the meme ‘imagine how tired we are of it’.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Thank you for being true to you, and educating us. Some of us are listening.
And don't feel that speaking your perspective is any less valid even when it's so fiercely othered."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Its nice to see something you are passionate about though
We just only occasionally can find the right mix of debate on here as the varying factors are immense as we all have off days.
Also we should discuss the questionable topics more without fear of it turning into a shit show.
Maybe today's the day to start one "
Maybe today is the day. We’ll see.
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"Love this OP. Race, sexuality, age and gender inequalities are issues that people face daily.
Whilst it might appear jarring to those not affected by those issues, imagine how jarring it is for those faced with (and reminded of) these issues everyday.
Literally. Reminds me of the meme ‘imagine how tired we are of it’.
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"Love this OP. Race, sexuality, age and gender inequalities are issues that people face daily.
Whilst it might appear jarring to those not affected by those issues, imagine how jarring it is for those faced with (and reminded of) these issues everyday.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X"
I don't particularly understand your need to end with an antagonistic tone to your otherwise positive comment.
In reference to your post, race isn't a consideration for me and I suspect, most people, which is perhaps why it isn't mentioned much. |
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In reference to your post, race isn't a consideration for me and I suspect, most people, which is perhaps why it isn't mentioned much."
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It's mentioned a LOT, in the crassest terms, usually when referring to black men! |
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X
I don't particularly understand your need to end with an antagonistic tone to your otherwise positive comment.
In reference to your post, race isn't a consideration for me and I suspect, most people, which is perhaps why it isn't mentioned much."
I'm glad society is gradually developing more empathy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X
I don't particularly understand your need to end with an antagonistic tone to your otherwise positive comment.
In reference to your post, race isn't a consideration for me and I suspect, most people, which is perhaps why it isn't mentioned much."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X"
I love this although I suppose the usual suspects who make borderline racist comments and then claim we're playing the race card when we call them out won't have anything positive to say under this thread.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X
I love this although I suppose the usual suspects who make borderline racist comments and then claim we're playing the race card when we call them out won't have anything positive to say under this thread...."
Oh you already know. They’re the reason I wanted to just remind people, we can be here. And we can be ourselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm clearly missing something, judging from the three or so sarcastic comments in reply my post. That'll teach me eh, ladies?
Then again, I don't spend my life in the Forum and am glad to be missing whatever it is I have clearly missed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm clearly missing something, judging from the three or so sarcastic comments in reply my post. That'll teach me eh, ladies?
Then again, I don't spend my life in the Forum and am glad to be missing whatever it is I have clearly missed."
It's not about "spending your life on the forums"
And the racism we speaking about isn't just on the forums, it lands in our personal messages as well |
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"I told a guy at work that he looked like a guy I'd seen on YouTube, showed him the vid and he pointed out the guy was white.
He still looked like him though lol"
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Hahaha I can relate to that, a white guy I work with is a double for my (mixed race) son, both of them deny the similarity! |
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"I'm clearly missing something, judging from the three or so sarcastic comments in reply my post. That'll teach me eh, ladies?
Then again, I don't spend my life in the Forum and am glad to be missing whatever it is I have clearly missed."
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You're welcome to stay around, the thread is a learning point, we may consider things we haven't previously based on the real lived experiences of others. Everyday's a school day! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't particularly understand your need to end with an antagonistic tone to your otherwise positive comment.
In reference to your post, race isn't a consideration for me and I suspect, most people, which is perhaps why it isn't mentioned much."
Thanks for contributing. P. V. O. |
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By *omer47Man
over a year ago
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X"
To be honest I've never seen a post where racism has been bought into it, but thats not to say that it hasn't.
I for one would welcome black males, females, tv/ts and couples to contact me. We are on this site to have fun with other people not discuss there colour/race etc etc. |
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"I'm clearly missing something, judging from the three or so sarcastic comments in reply my post. That'll teach me eh, ladies?
Then again, I don't spend my life in the Forum and am glad to be missing whatever it is I have clearly missed.
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You're welcome to stay around, the thread is a learning point, we may consider things we haven't previously based on the real lived experiences of others. Everyday's a school day! "
We all have a lot to learn. |
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"I wrote a poem today about living in a world that makes that difficult. Something which I think lots of us from minoritised groups experience. "
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In Greek mythology, would you say that the Minotaur was Minotaur'ised??   |
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All this talk in the media and popular culture about this race, that race and the other race. People seem to forget when it comes down to it, there's only one race, the human race. Big love everybody
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"I wrote a poem today about living in a world that makes that difficult. Something which I think lots of us from minoritised groups experience.
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In Greek mythology, would you say that the Minotaur was Minotaur'ised?? "
Possibly not but confused with that complex labyrinth |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I wrote a poem today about living in a world that makes that difficult. Something which I think lots of us from minoritised groups experience.
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In Greek mythology, would you say that the Minotaur was Minotaur'ised?? "
Oh that’s easy! YES!! |
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"I wrote a poem today about living in a world that makes that difficult. Something which I think lots of us from minoritised groups experience.
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In Greek mythology, would you say that the Minotaur was Minotaur'ised??
Possibly not but confused with that complex labyrinth "
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Ah, and in typical Fab etymology that's where the word "labia" comes from. Many a man hath tried to enter that complex maze, let alone escape from it.
It's deviously devilish! |
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"I wrote a poem today about living in a world that makes that difficult. Something which I think lots of us from minoritised groups experience.
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In Greek mythology, would you say that the Minotaur was Minotaur'ised??
Possibly not but confused with that complex labyrinth
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Ah, and in typical Fab etymology that's where the word "labia" comes from. Many a man hath tried to enter that complex maze, let alone escape from it.
It's deviously devilish!"
*Cries in Greek history geek* |
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"I wrote a poem today about living in a world that makes that difficult. Something which I think lots of us from minoritised groups experience.
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In Greek mythology, would you say that the Minotaur was Minotaur'ised??
Possibly not but confused with that complex labyrinth
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Ah, and in typical Fab etymology that's where the word "labia" comes from. Many a man hath tried to enter that complex maze, let alone escape from it.
It's deviously devilish!
*Cries in Greek history geek*"
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Yes, I forgot you're our resident HELLenic chick. |
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"I wrote a poem today about living in a world that makes that difficult. Something which I think lots of us from minoritised groups experience.
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In Greek mythology, would you say that the Minotaur was Minotaur'ised??
Possibly not but confused with that complex labyrinth
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Ah, and in typical Fab etymology that's where the word "labia" comes from. Many a man hath tried to enter that complex maze, let alone escape from it.
It's deviously devilish!
*Cries in Greek history geek*
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Yes, I forgot you're our resident HELLenic chick."
I don't know what the etymology is off the top of my head, but I'd bet a cup of coffee that it's not that |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Got me in the first half again Steve. Thought this was gonna be about F1 
Are you into F1 too *eyes*
The thing with the cars that go zoom yeah? "
Brb just Google mapping my journey to Heathrow. |
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"It's deviously devilish!
*Cries in Greek history geek*
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Yes, I forgot you're our resident HELLenic chick.
I don't know what the etymology is off the top of my head, but I'd bet a cup of coffee that it's not that "
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Steve, she ruffling her plumage at me. And now she wants a FREE coffee! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It's deviously devilish!
*Cries in Greek history geek*
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Yes, I forgot you're our resident HELLenic chick.
I don't know what the etymology is off the top of my head, but I'd bet a cup of coffee that it's not that
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Steve, she ruffling her plumage at me. And now she wants a FREE coffee! "
You’re in there mate. 
Get your ticket to Manny asap! |
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"Got me in the first half again Steve. Thought this was gonna be about F1
Are you into F1 too *eyes*
The thing with the cars that go zoom yeah?
Brb just Google mapping my journey to Heathrow. "
Just search for "The Sticks"  |
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"It's deviously devilish!
*Cries in Greek history geek*
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Yes, I forgot you're our resident HELLenic chick.
I don't know what the etymology is off the top of my head, but I'd bet a cup of coffee that it's not that
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Steve, she ruffling her plumage at me. And now she wants a FREE coffee!
You’re in there mate.
Get your ticket to Manny asap!"
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She's not getting manny; she's just getting one coffee. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Got me in the first half again Steve. Thought this was gonna be about F1
Are you into F1 too *eyes*
The thing with the cars that go zoom yeah?
Brb just Google mapping my journey to Heathrow.
Just search for "The Sticks" "
Ah yeah. Forgot you live there.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It's deviously devilish!
*Cries in Greek history geek*
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Yes, I forgot you're our resident HELLenic chick.
I don't know what the etymology is off the top of my head, but I'd bet a cup of coffee that it's not that
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Steve, she ruffling her plumage at me. And now she wants a FREE coffee!
You’re in there mate.
Get your ticket to Manny asap!
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She's not getting manny; she's just getting one coffee. "
Well played |
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"Love this OP. Race, sexuality, age and gender inequalities are issues that people face daily.
Whilst it might appear jarring to those not affected by those issues, imagine how jarring it is for those faced with (and reminded of) these issues everyday.
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Well said "
A friend once moaned “Oh, that guys on one of his racist moans again. Why does he bring it up?”
Me “Because he’s walking in different shoes to you.”
I’ve met too many people in life that moan about ‘Their Chinese, they are rich, their black, bloody immigrants, they are privileged etc.’ I don’t give them the energy or have them in my life.
Stay true to yourself OP! Nothing wrong with a healthy debate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We all breath the same air.
We all drink the same water.
We all bleed if you cut us.
And we all taste a bit like chicken....."
If only!!
I get where your comeing from. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don’t see colour or what race someone is. The only time I see it is when someone brings it up. "
I personally think it’s important that people see a Black man when they look at me. And they consider the way that impacts my experience moving through this wretched world. But I know what you mean. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X
I don't particularly understand your need to end with an antagonistic tone to your otherwise positive comment.
In reference to your post, race isn't a consideration for me and I suspect, most people, which is perhaps why it isn't mentioned much.
I'm glad society is gradually developing more empathy."
Empathys pouring out of all corners now ,we sure need swimming lessons all of us on here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality. |
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By *m3232Man
over a year ago
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"I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality."
Myself sees it completely different than you.
Race only affects people that let it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality.
Myself sees it completely different than you.
Race only affects people that let it. "
So black people let themselves be pulled over twice as often by police? Black women let themselves have much worse maternity outcomes than white women? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good thread. I saw this quote and I like it "there is only one race, the human race" "
Ok. Thats why refreashers are about all the time.
If all played ball we would not have to revisit this. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality.
Myself sees it completely different than you.
Race only affects people that let it.
So black people let themselves be pulled over twice as often by police? Black women let themselves have much worse maternity outcomes than white women? "
Ignore them. They’re not going to change their mind. |
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"I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality.
Myself sees it completely different than you.
Race only affects people that let it.
So black people let themselves be pulled over twice as often by police? Black women let themselves have much worse maternity outcomes than white women?
Ignore them. They’re not going to change their mind. "
Ignorant and entitled to think that though. Must think |
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"I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality.
Myself sees it completely different than you.
Race only affects people that let it.
So black people let themselves be pulled over twice as often by police? Black women let themselves have much worse maternity outcomes than white women? "
People tell on themselves, is what happens. |
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"I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality.
Myself sees it completely different than you.
Race only affects people that let it.
So black people let themselves be pulled over twice as often by police? Black women let themselves have much worse maternity outcomes than white women?
People tell on themselves, is what happens."
Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
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Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria."
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey? |
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
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Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?"
Who's Bluey? |
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X"
The lingering stench will always stay and remain, No matter how many bottle,s of Oust are used.
The eyes are wide open,but if the hearts are rotten and ill the blindness is still there.
No merit but judgement of the book cover remains.
A very long hard way to go..
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
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Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey? "
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
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Tears in my eyes right now. |
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
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Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now. "
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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
Derbyshire village |
"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
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Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GpdLhgHVA"
It's not as good as hey duggee and you know it.
It is pretty bloody good though! |
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"I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality.
Myself sees it completely different than you.
Race only affects people that let it. "
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over a year ago
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
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Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GpdLhgHVA
It's not as good as hey duggee and you know it.
It is pretty bloody good though!"
it’s close. Duggee is GREAT. But Bluey is ELITE. I watch it when I’m sad |
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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
Derbyshire village |
"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
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Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GpdLhgHVA
It's not as good as hey duggee and you know it.
It is pretty bloody good though! it’s close. Duggee is GREAT. But Bluey is ELITE. I watch it when I’m sad "
They're both better than Bing and Peppa so it's all good |
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
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Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GpdLhgHVA"
 YouTube! Oh my. I couldn't possibly.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
•
Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GpdLhgHVA
It's not as good as hey duggee and you know it.
It is pretty bloody good though!"
Never seen Hey Duggee. No doubt Steve will send me a playlist. |
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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
Derbyshire village |
"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
•
Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GpdLhgHVA
It's not as good as hey duggee and you know it.
It is pretty bloody good though!
Never seen Hey Duggee. No doubt Steve will send me a playlist. "
You should. "Alexa, play songs by duggee and the squirrels". |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
•
Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GpdLhgHVA
YouTube! Oh my. I couldn't possibly.
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Ooops did I just send you a link |
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"Love this OP. Race, sexuality, age and gender inequalities are issues that people face daily.
Whilst it might appear jarring to those not affected by those issues, imagine how jarring it is for those faced with (and reminded of) these issues everyday.
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Not to mention body shapes, hair colour, disability and more.
Everyone has some battle to surmount |
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"I don't think saying "I don't see colour" is helpful because it ignores all of the ways race impacts on people. And I do notice what colour people are. Just like someone would notice how pale and freckled I am. It's just reality.
Myself sees it completely different than you.
Race only affects people that let it. "
I wish I could be this ignorant about racism
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry, Swing? Don't know what you mean.
•
Ignore her Bertie; she's from Tasmania.
Ignore her Swing; she's from Austria.
I thought they were from the same place as Bluey?
Who's Bluey?
Omg ‘who’s Bluey?’
?????
Tears in my eyes right now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3GpdLhgHVA
It's not as good as hey duggee and you know it.
It is pretty bloody good though!
Never seen Hey Duggee. No doubt Steve will send me a playlist.
You should. "Alexa, play songs by duggee and the squirrels"."
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over a year ago
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"Run it back
Why don’t you run back to where you come from, ‘bro’!
ps I’ll race ya "
Go back to where I came from? NEVER heard that before 
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"Run it back
Why don’t you run back to where you come from, ‘bro’!
ps I’ll race ya
Go back to where I came from? NEVER heard that before
I would race you but I believe that that’s classic divide and rule tactics "
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X"
Race needs to be discussed but sadly it is rare it is done positively. The looks I get when I reveal my ethnicity are always fun.
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"Run it back
Why don’t you run back to where you come from, ‘bro’!
ps I’ll race ya
Go back to where I came from? NEVER heard that before
I would race you but I believe that that’s classic divide and rule tactics "
I get it after people tell me I'm one of the good immigrants. (Which is before they discover my politics)
Which is not the same, I'm not going all Karen white girl on anyone here. Just the inconsistency makes me howl. I'm good enough to not have the law apply to me because I'm British really. Until I express support for "those immigrants" and then I deserve to be treated as badly or worse than (insert slurs here).
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
Fareham |
I’m married to a black woman. Jamaican heritage whose DNA test showed heritage from the Sudan to the Jews. She looks West African and gets approached by lonely travellers from that region.
Me? I’m Nordic and wouldn’t be out of place in the SS. By race I mean.
We get funny looks from some particularly as my wife asked me to grow my beard back so I look like a Boer! I tend to wear clothes similar to the rednecks too.
But I don’t believe in ‘race’ as it’s superficial. Colour doesn’t mean a lot as an Italian could have skin tone close to my wife’s.
I haven’t ever had a bad experience with a black person, only thuggish Brits.
My wife is most proud of being born in Yorkshire. Me? Proud of being called ‘one of us’ by her and her family. |
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"I’m married to a black woman. Jamaican heritage whose DNA test showed heritage from the Sudan to the Jews. She looks West African and gets approached by lonely travellers from that region.
Me? I’m Nordic and wouldn’t be out of place in the SS. By race I mean.
We get funny looks from some particularly as my wife asked me to grow my beard back so I look like a Boer! I tend to wear clothes similar to the rednecks too.
But I don’t believe in ‘race’ as it’s superficial. Colour doesn’t mean a lot as an Italian could have skin tone close to my wife’s.
I haven’t ever had a bad experience with a black person, only thuggish Brits.
My wife is most proud of being born in Yorkshire. Me? Proud of being called ‘one of us’ by her and her family."
I believe in race as a social construct with very real knock on effects. Are there unambiguous biological differences that are definitely race? Not really.
There are significant differences in treatment. That's what matters. |
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
Fareham |
"I’m married to a black woman. Jamaican heritage whose DNA test showed heritage from the Sudan to the Jews. She looks West African and gets approached by lonely travellers from that region.
Me? I’m Nordic and wouldn’t be out of place in the SS. By race I mean.
We get funny looks from some particularly as my wife asked me to grow my beard back so I look like a Boer! I tend to wear clothes similar to the rednecks too.
But I don’t believe in ‘race’ as it’s superficial. Colour doesn’t mean a lot as an Italian could have skin tone close to my wife’s.
I haven’t ever had a bad experience with a black person, only thuggish Brits.
My wife is most proud of being born in Yorkshire. Me? Proud of being called ‘one of us’ by her and her family.
I believe in race as a social construct with very real knock on effects. Are there unambiguous biological differences that are definitely race? Not really.
There are significant differences in treatment. That's what matters."
Indeed. How you identify is up to you but can of course be subconscious as ‘society’ has forced it on you.
I’m not ‘white’ and don’t fit in with typical middle England. Never have. Maybe my Catholic anti establishment mother was to blame? I’m just a native of the British Isles as is my wife but her soul is in Jamaica. |
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"I’m married to a black woman. Jamaican heritage whose DNA test showed heritage from the Sudan to the Jews. She looks West African and gets approached by lonely travellers from that region.
Me? I’m Nordic and wouldn’t be out of place in the SS. By race I mean.
We get funny looks from some particularly as my wife asked me to grow my beard back so I look like a Boer! I tend to wear clothes similar to the rednecks too.
But I don’t believe in ‘race’ as it’s superficial. Colour doesn’t mean a lot as an Italian could have skin tone close to my wife’s.
I haven’t ever had a bad experience with a black person, only thuggish Brits.
My wife is most proud of being born in Yorkshire. Me? Proud of being called ‘one of us’ by her and her family.
I believe in race as a social construct with very real knock on effects. Are there unambiguous biological differences that are definitely race? Not really.
There are significant differences in treatment. That's what matters.
Indeed. How you identify is up to you but can of course be subconscious as ‘society’ has forced it on you.
I’m not ‘white’ and don’t fit in with typical middle England. Never have. Maybe my Catholic anti establishment mother was to blame? I’m just a native of the British Isles as is my wife but her soul is in Jamaica."
I think whiteness is a whole other debate. |
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"Run it back
Why don’t you run back to where you come from, ‘bro’!
ps I’ll race ya
Go back to where I came from? NEVER heard that before
I would race you but I believe that that’s classic divide and rule tactics
I bet you’re well fast "
So fast. So strong. |
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"Run it back
Why don’t you run back to where you come from, ‘bro’!
ps I’ll race ya
Go back to where I came from? NEVER heard that before
I would race you but I believe that that’s classic divide and rule tactics
I get it after people tell me I'm one of the good immigrants. (Which is before they discover my politics)
Which is not the same, I'm not going all Karen white girl on anyone here. Just the inconsistency makes me howl. I'm good enough to not have the law apply to me because I'm British really. Until I express support for "those immigrants" and then I deserve to be treated as badly or worse than (insert slurs here).
Umm. Ok "
And no-one assumes I'm part immigrant because I'm lily white with blue eyes. It's silly |
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"Run it back
Why don’t you run back to where you come from, ‘bro’!
ps I’ll race ya
Go back to where I came from? NEVER heard that before
I would race you but I believe that that’s classic divide and rule tactics
I bet you’re well fast
So fast. So strong. "
Ain't nobody dope as me, I'm just so... |
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"Run it back
Why don’t you run back to where you come from, ‘bro’!
ps I’ll race ya
Go back to where I came from? NEVER heard that before
I would race you but I believe that that’s classic divide and rule tactics
I get it after people tell me I'm one of the good immigrants. (Which is before they discover my politics)
Which is not the same, I'm not going all Karen white girl on anyone here. Just the inconsistency makes me howl. I'm good enough to not have the law apply to me because I'm British really. Until I express support for "those immigrants" and then I deserve to be treated as badly or worse than (insert slurs here).
Umm. Ok
And no-one assumes I'm part immigrant because I'm lily white with blue eyes. It's silly "
My ancestors first started leaving the UK in the late 18th century, which is like Roman times for white Australia. (Or in American terms, I can't do the Mayflower, I can do the one after)
British really, my arse. |
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"Run it back
Why don’t you run back to where you come from, ‘bro’!
ps I’ll race ya
Go back to where I came from? NEVER heard that before
I would race you but I believe that that’s classic divide and rule tactics
I get it after people tell me I'm one of the good immigrants. (Which is before they discover my politics)
Which is not the same, I'm not going all Karen white girl on anyone here. Just the inconsistency makes me howl. I'm good enough to not have the law apply to me because I'm British really. Until I express support for "those immigrants" and then I deserve to be treated as badly or worse than (insert slurs here).
Umm. Ok
And no-one assumes I'm part immigrant because I'm lily white with blue eyes. It's silly
My ancestors first started leaving the UK in the late 18th century, which is like Roman times for white Australia. (Or in American terms, I can't do the Mayflower, I can do the one after)
British really, my arse."
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Sorry to vent but I know everyone means well with the colour blind stuff but sometimes I want people to look at me and see me. Like really see me. See the weight of this race in this society. The way we navigate the world is not the same. The way we experience the world is not the same. The threat of racism dictates which spaces I’m happy to navigate safely. You can have all the degrees in the world (which you’re less likely to get) but you stick a hoodie and some tracksuit bottoms on and you’ll still get followed around the supermarket. How embarrassing. You’ll still get weird looks. You’ll still get asked where you’re really from. Because you never really belong here. This is never *really* your home. And the govt have shown willingness to take that away. To take away what makes us ‘belong’. I want you to see that when you look at me. I want you to see me, sat there at 18, excited to experience the world that experiencing racism from a group of about 15 lads. The child I was when I was walking home in the freezing cold and get stopped ‘because I fit the description’ at 16 years old. The guy that worked hard for what I got but still got told I was only at a good uni because of quotas. See me, who reads about and understands racism (a little bit) and experience it most days knowingly, probably every day unknowingly, and still gets gaslit about what is it isn’t really racism. To have to come online and put up with people justifying murdering people that look like you. Advocating shooting people that look like you. To go to school and get taught revisionist versions of your history which make out the people that oppressed you weren’t all that bad. Etc. Etc. And then to be told, we’re all the same, I don’t see your race, and have to be grateful. Lol. It’s exhausting. It’s exhausting researching racist attacks before you go on holiday. It’s exhausting reading reviews on how bad the racism is before you go on holiday. Considering your safety because you’re Black, that’s not normal man. I used to cry at night you know. I used to cry because I thought being black made me ugly, because I used to think it was my skin’s fault that people hate me. And I still feel that some days. And then people just pretend you don’t experience any of that shit. Because they’re colourblind. It’s exhausting. Sorry came from one thread to here to rant before I lost my mind. |
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"Sorry to vent but I know everyone means well with the colour blind stuff but sometimes I want people to look at me and see me. Like really see me. See the weight of this race in this society. The way we navigate the world is not the same. The way we experience the world is not the same. The threat of racism dictates which spaces I’m happy to navigate safely. You can have all the degrees in the world (which you’re less likely to get) but you stick a hoodie and some tracksuit bottoms on and you’ll still get followed around the supermarket. How embarrassing. You’ll still get weird looks. You’ll still get asked where you’re really from. Because you never really belong here. This is never *really* your home. And the govt have shown willingness to take that away. To take away what makes us ‘belong’. I want you to see that when you look at me. I want you to see me, sat there at 18, excited to experience the world that experiencing racism from a group of about 15 lads. The child I was when I was walking home in the freezing cold and get stopped ‘because I fit the description’ at 16 years old. The guy that worked hard for what I got but still got told I was only at a good uni because of quotas. See me, who reads about and understands racism (a little bit) and experience it most days knowingly, probably every day unknowingly, and still gets gaslit about what is it isn’t really racism. To have to come online and put up with people justifying murdering people that look like you. Advocating shooting people that look like you. To go to school and get taught revisionist versions of your history which make out the people that oppressed you weren’t all that bad. Etc. Etc. And then to be told, we’re all the same, I don’t see your race, and have to be grateful. Lol. It’s exhausting. It’s exhausting researching racist attacks before you go on holiday. It’s exhausting reading reviews on how bad the racism is before you go on holiday. Considering your safety because you’re Black, that’s not normal man. I used to cry at night you know. I used to cry because I thought being black made me ugly, because I used to think it was my skin’s fault that people hate me. And I still feel that some days. And then people just pretend you don’t experience any of that shit. Because they’re colourblind. It’s exhausting. Sorry came from one thread to here to rant before I lost my mind. "
I hope I see. And I'm sorry.
I want to see you, the burden you carry, my role in perpetuating it, and know how I can help. |
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Seeing that we're all comparing our phalluses here (including KC² because she's a hermaphrodite )... I'm a Sikh, with a white partner, with a Latin/Roman surname, with Scottish relatives and a son with Welsh roots. I've been called a Coconut.
Maketh of that what you will.
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"Sorry to vent but I know everyone means well with the colour blind stuff but sometimes I want people to look at me and see me. Like really see me. See the weight of this race in this society. The way we navigate the world is not the same. The way we experience the world is not the same. The threat of racism dictates which spaces I’m happy to navigate safely. You can have all the degrees in the world (which you’re less likely to get) but you stick a hoodie and some tracksuit bottoms on and you’ll still get followed around the supermarket. How embarrassing. You’ll still get weird looks. You’ll still get asked where you’re really from. Because you never really belong here. This is never *really* your home. And the govt have shown willingness to take that away. To take away what makes us ‘belong’. I want you to see that when you look at me. I want you to see me, sat there at 18, excited to experience the world that experiencing racism from a group of about 15 lads. The child I was when I was walking home in the freezing cold and get stopped ‘because I fit the description’ at 16 years old. The guy that worked hard for what I got but still got told I was only at a good uni because of quotas. See me, who reads about and understands racism (a little bit) and experience it most days knowingly, probably every day unknowingly, and still gets gaslit about what is it isn’t really racism. To have to come online and put up with people justifying murdering people that look like you. Advocating shooting people that look like you. To go to school and get taught revisionist versions of your history which make out the people that oppressed you weren’t all that bad. Etc. Etc. And then to be told, we’re all the same, I don’t see your race, and have to be grateful. Lol. It’s exhausting. It’s exhausting researching racist attacks before you go on holiday. It’s exhausting reading reviews on how bad the racism is before you go on holiday. Considering your safety because you’re Black, that’s not normal man. I used to cry at night you know. I used to cry because I thought being black made me ugly, because I used to think it was my skin’s fault that people hate me. And I still feel that some days. And then people just pretend you don’t experience any of that shit. Because they’re colourblind. It’s exhausting. Sorry came from one thread to here to rant before I lost my mind.
I hope I see. And I'm sorry.
I want to see you, the burden you carry, my role in perpetuating it, and know how I can help."
You know what, it’s the gaslighting that I can’t deal with. I really live this shit. I really read and try and learn every day more and more about the history and the present day of this shit. And you’ll second guess it all because folks will make out that you’re mad, seeing things, imagining things, being dramatic. Like this is me on race but I not you get it. It happens with lots of lived experiences. It’s just exhausting. Like it makes existing exhausting. |
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As someone from a minority, I’ve found the past few years of constant conversations about race to be exhausting, whether that be a positive or negative discussion.
I wish people would go back to not mentioning it. I want to go back to being a person instead of a conversation topic |
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"As someone from a minority, I’ve found the past few years of constant conversations about race to be exhausting, whether that be a positive or negative discussion.
I wish people would go back to not mentioning it. I want to go back to being a person instead of a conversation topic "
I don’t mind the conversation. I know it’s important. But it does feel exhausting the way you get dragged in and used as an expert or a spokesperson and have to have your experience ’debated’. The truth is for me though, I never really felt like they see us as equal human beings whether we discuss it or not. So some kind of change had to happen |
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"As someone from a minority, I’ve found the past few years of constant conversations about race to be exhausting, whether that be a positive or negative discussion.
I wish people would go back to not mentioning it. I want to go back to being a person instead of a conversation topic
I don’t mind the conversation. I know it’s important. But it does feel exhausting the way you get dragged in and used as an expert or a spokesperson and have to have your experience ’debated’. The truth is for me though, I never really felt like they see us as equal human beings whether we discuss it or not. So some kind of change had to happen "
But you’re the one that started this thread. If it’s so exhausting then why put it up for debate? |
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"As someone from a minority, I’ve found the past few years of constant conversations about race to be exhausting, whether that be a positive or negative discussion.
I wish people would go back to not mentioning it. I want to go back to being a person instead of a conversation topic
I don’t mind the conversation. I know it’s important. But it does feel exhausting the way you get dragged in and used as an expert or a spokesperson and have to have your experience ’debated’. The truth is for me though, I never really felt like they see us as equal human beings whether we discuss it or not. So some kind of change had to happen
But you’re the one that started this thread. If it’s so exhausting then why put it up for debate?"
I didn’t start this thread to debate race with anyone. Nor have I engaged in a debate with anyone about race. If people want to debate race they can do that on a Thread for that. This is not that. |
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ANYWAY
Today I’m thinking about James Baldwin.
I also read a gorgeous essay in the book I’m reading currently about Black elders in Britain. And a great poem about Tottenham. I also have been re reading Caleb Femi’s poems. That’s keeping me together. |
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"You’re just supposed to be happy all the time and never talk about race. "
You can and should talk about it, Steve. I get it can be exhausting as posted above, but doesn't mean the conversations aren't necessary. I'm sorry for my flippant earlier post now - I thought we'd dialled down the serious, but it wasn't meant to appear insensitive on an important issue. |
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"You’re just supposed to be happy all the time and never talk about race.
You can and should talk about it, Steve. I get it can be exhausting as posted above, but doesn't mean the conversations aren't necessary. I'm sorry for my flippant earlier post now - I thought we'd dialled down the serious, but it wasn't meant to appear insensitive on an important issue. "
Jokes are always welcome in my threads! And so are you Yolo  |
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"I don’t expect this thread to be super popular. But maybe someone sees it and feels it. But I feel like the only time on fab we talk about Black people or other people of colour is in the context of racism where we are then gaslit and/ or exposed to further racism.
So today I just wanted to say to you all that we are beautiful and we belong here. I love seeing and reading so many different but familiar perspectives on here so I am here to say, keep coming back, I see you, I love you. And there’s more to our experiences than the negative stuff.
P.s. I know I talk about race a lot. And honestly if you don’t like that about me then that sucks for you doesn’t it? X"
Thank you, so much. |
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"ANYWAY
Today I’m thinking about James Baldwin.
I also read a gorgeous essay in the book I’m reading currently about Black elders in Britain. And a great poem about Tottenham. I also have been re reading Caleb Femi’s poems. That’s keeping me together. "
I LOVE James Baldwin one of my most favourite books of all time is Giovanni’s Room. It’s one of my biggest inspirations in terms of writing |
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"ANYWAY
Today I’m thinking about James Baldwin.
I also read a gorgeous essay in the book I’m reading currently about Black elders in Britain. And a great poem about Tottenham. I also have been re reading Caleb Femi’s poems. That’s keeping me together.
I LOVE James Baldwin one of my most favourite books of all time is Giovanni’s Room. It’s one of my biggest inspirations in terms of writing"
You know I’ve not read this but it’s been recommended to me. He was way ahead of his time. Such a gorgeous man honestly. I love reading his stuff, so beautifully written. I can hear him reading it to me in my head sometimes. |
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Seems a lot of you like this guy (I haven’t really used the forums so unsure who he was).
It seems like he did the right thing by deleting. He clearly has a lot on his mind. Maybe he can get in a bit of a stronger and more peaceful head space with a little time away
Sometimes the internet bombards us with too many opinions, and makes us want to give ours too much, also. |
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