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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions... |
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over a year ago
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"We have been broadcasting into space since the 1970's, updating our message is only logical.
Gotta initiate First Contact somehow 
I tried that. They just read the message and didnt respond  "
Send them dick pictures! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I read something the other day that said that we haven’t sent humans to mars but have sent the mars rover. So chances are if aliens have been or do come to earth they’d send some form of technology first. |
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"We have been broadcasting into space since the 1970's, updating our message is only logical.
Gotta initiate First Contact somehow
I tried that. They just read the message and didnt respond "
I told you not to use a sky remote as a picture to represent our current technogical measuring instruments.... |
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If said aliens have the ability to alter the DNA and omit that part which repeatedly has us killing each other and not learning the futile stupidity of armed conflict then bring it on..
Nanu many, peace out..   |
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"We have been broadcasting into space since the 1970's, updating our message is only logical.
Gotta initiate First Contact somehow
I tried that. They just read the message and didnt respond
I told you not to use a sky remote as a picture to represent our current technogical measuring instruments...."
Why would I use a sky remote when I have a 6 inch steel rule that would more than suffice?  |
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If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted. |
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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
Derbyshire village |
"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted. "
Sea sponge. Love it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted. "
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use). |
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"We have been broadcasting into space since the 1970's, updating our message is only logical.
Gotta initiate First Contact somehow
I tried that. They just read the message and didnt respond
I told you not to use a sky remote as a picture to represent our current technogical measuring instruments....
Why would I use a sky remote when I have a 6 inch steel rule that would more than suffice? "
Be careful with the sharp edge  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Space and aliens man
Fucks my head up. There is definitely other life out there…I’m not sure about them visiting earth yet. Has anyone seen the Bob Lazar documentary off Netflix? |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use)."
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space. |
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"Either we are alone in this universe or we aren't. And both possibilities are equally terrifying.
Personally I'm all for it!
LvM"
One of my favourite quotes!
And I share your opinion. Anything warlike enough (or expansionist enough) to use that data for ill is probably not going to need help to do nasties anyway |
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I can’t see this ending well for us, history suggests that when a technologically superior group encounter others the inferior gets wiped out.
It’s only natural that in the competition for resources the strongest will prevail. Be this dogs fighting over a bone or multinational conglomerates manipulating trade routes.
The same we must assume will be true for organisms originating else where, and if they possess the ability to make their way to us then in all likelihood they will be at a point where they consider us as an infestation. They will brush us aside and take what they want.
Much better to not draw attention to ourselves |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions..."
I’m not going to vote for fk all until I see a slogan on a bus! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted. "
Yeah, I like that theory. A solar eclipse would be a good time to find those aliens sneaking around to witness one. It being a pretty rare phenomenon. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I can’t see this ending well for us, history suggests that when a technologically superior group encounter others the inferior gets wiped out.
It’s only natural that in the competition for resources the strongest will prevail. Be this dogs fighting over a bone or multinational conglomerates manipulating trade routes.
The same we must assume will be true for organisms originating else where, and if they possess the ability to make their way to us then in all likelihood they will be at a point where they consider us as an infestation. They will brush us aside and take what they want.
Much better to not draw attention to ourselves "
A response and victory for common sense. This story is all over the news and the clouds are there for a reason ... To stop us being spotted from space.. These lunatic scientists are worryingly dangerous. In fact most of the problems on earth have been caused by scientists and mining fossil fuels are just one example. They will end us all in the end and for what motive apart from cash.. to be Billy Big Balls in some scientific journal .. |
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We are actually more likely to find AI life than real life forms.
There’s problems with intergalactic Space travel that might be impossible for organisms to beat. Where as it’s possible for an AI to do it.
An AI would have no use for resources. It would most likely be powered by solar are a form of energy we haven’t discovered yet.
We might even run into a civilisation that decided to upload its entire consciousness into an AI to travel space.
I love thinking about that stuff |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted. "
Unlikely, we have been broadcasting radio waves for about 80 years that means only anyone 80 light years away would hear us, given the galaxy is one hundred thousand light years across that’s not very far, if there is life elsewhere then it’ll be a long way away I mean a really long way away. Plus there is lots of shit out there spewing out radiation things like the hearts of2 galaxies colliding and actually warping space. Do you think anyone is going to notice run runs of the two Ronnies? |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
Unlikely, we have been broadcasting radio waves for about 80 years that means only anyone 80 light years away would hear us, given the galaxy is one hundred thousand light years across that’s not very far, if there is life elsewhere then it’ll be a long way away I mean a really long way away. Plus there is lots of shit out there spewing out radiation things like the hearts of2 galaxies colliding and actually warping space. Do you think anyone is going to notice run runs of the two Ronnies?"
I'd like to think alien life forms enjoy the "fork handles/four candles" sketch, as much as the next life form |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I can’t see this ending well for us, history suggests that when a technologically superior group encounter others the inferior gets wiped out.
It’s only natural that in the competition for resources the strongest will prevail. Be this dogs fighting over a bone or multinational conglomerates manipulating trade routes.
The same we must assume will be true for organisms originating else where, and if they possess the ability to make their way to us then in all likelihood they will be at a point where they consider us as an infestation. They will brush us aside and take what they want.
Much better to not draw attention to ourselves
A response and victory for common sense. This story is all over the news and the clouds are there for a reason ... To stop us being spotted from space.. These lunatic scientists are worryingly dangerous. In fact most of the problems on earth have been caused by scientists and mining fossil fuels are just one example. They will end us all in the end and for what motive apart from cash.. to be Billy Big Balls in some scientific journal .."
that clouds line is class Tom. Almost a genuine lol |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
Unlikely, we have been broadcasting radio waves for about 80 years that means only anyone 80 light years away would hear us, given the galaxy is one hundred thousand light years across that’s not very far, if there is life elsewhere then it’ll be a long way away I mean a really long way away. Plus there is lots of shit out there spewing out radiation things like the hearts of2 galaxies colliding and actually warping space. Do you think anyone is going to notice run runs of the two Ronnies?"
Your assuming these life forms haven’t developed technologies to look for the signals rather than waiting for the signal to get to them.
For all we know they could have networks of millions of AI controlled research bots flying through space looking for signals or signs of life. |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space. "
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We are actually more likely to find AI life than real life forms.
There’s problems with intergalactic Space travel that might be impossible for organisms to beat. Where as it’s possible for an AI to do it.
An AI would have no use for resources. It would most likely be powered by solar are a form of energy we haven’t discovered yet.
We might even run into a civilisation that decided to upload its entire consciousness into an AI to travel space.
I love thinking about that stuff "
This is how I see long range apace travel (even with light speed) given the vast ranges and time scales. A bit like Altered Carbon with uploads and sleves. |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time."
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system "
We can get to Mars. It's just stupidly expensive and we're not entirely clear what benefit we'd derive from sending humans there. We've already probed it pretty extensively with rovers, unsure what else we'd learn from "boots on the ground", so to speak? Humans can't live there for fairly obvious reasons. |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system "
I think people are under the assumption that any alien life that makes it to Earth would be representative of the whole species. It could just be their version of Bezos or Musk. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system
We can get to Mars. It's just stupidly expensive and we're not entirely clear what benefit we'd derive from sending humans there. We've already probed it pretty extensively with rovers, unsure what else we'd learn from "boots on the ground", so to speak? Humans can't live there for fairly obvious reasons. "
Mars is called the red planet for a reason. It is one huge dustbowl similar to what happened in the USA mid west in the 20s. We could not grow crops there or raise animals for slaughter or milk. |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system
We can get to Mars. It's just stupidly expensive and we're not entirely clear what benefit we'd derive from sending humans there. We've already probed it pretty extensively with rovers, unsure what else we'd learn from "boots on the ground", so to speak? Humans can't live there for fairly obvious reasons. "
We can’t get to Mars. We can land stuff on it, but we have no idea how safely we could get boots on the ground. Or how they’d survive there for any longer than the provisions they bring.
This is what I mean by people not grasping the huge differences in technology that might exist.
A 10 man trip to Mars right now might be a death sentence.
There could be civilisations out there that consider a 10 million light year trip the way we look at popping to Tesco.
Trust me, no credible scientist believes a hostile alien life form could get to use. Because if they can, they are far too advanced to be hostile.
What we can offer them in discovery, art, culture, music and history far outweighs what we can offer them in resources and labour by about a billion.
As I said. It would be like us discovering a new sea sponge that can talk and read and write. I don’t think we’d be threatened and destroy it. Or attempt to ensl@ve it.
To each their own opinion |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system
We can get to Mars. It's just stupidly expensive and we're not entirely clear what benefit we'd derive from sending humans there. We've already probed it pretty extensively with rovers, unsure what else we'd learn from "boots on the ground", so to speak? Humans can't live there for fairly obvious reasons.
We can’t get to Mars. We can land stuff on it, but we have no idea how safely we could get boots on the ground. Or how they’d survive there for any longer than the provisions they bring.
This is what I mean by people not grasping the huge differences in technology that might exist.
A 10 man trip to Mars right now might be a death sentence.
There could be civilisations out there that consider a 10 million light year trip the way we look at popping to Tesco.
Trust me, no credible scientist believes a hostile alien life form could get to use. Because if they can, they are far too advanced to be hostile.
What we can offer them in discovery, art, culture, music and history far outweighs what we can offer them in resources and labour by about a billion.
As I said. It would be like us discovering a new sea sponge that can talk and read and write. I don’t think we’d be threatened and destroy it. Or attempt to ensl@ve it.
To each their own opinion "
My point is, what would we benefit from, by sending humans to Mars? What would we learn that we haven't already learned from the information sent back by rovers? Is it necessary to send people to Mars? Obviously the planet is not suited to human settlement without some big time modifications. |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system
We can get to Mars. It's just stupidly expensive and we're not entirely clear what benefit we'd derive from sending humans there. We've already probed it pretty extensively with rovers, unsure what else we'd learn from "boots on the ground", so to speak? Humans can't live there for fairly obvious reasons.
We can’t get to Mars. We can land stuff on it, but we have no idea how safely we could get boots on the ground. Or how they’d survive there for any longer than the provisions they bring.
This is what I mean by people not grasping the huge differences in technology that might exist.
A 10 man trip to Mars right now might be a death sentence.
There could be civilisations out there that consider a 10 million light year trip the way we look at popping to Tesco.
Trust me, no credible scientist believes a hostile alien life form could get to use. Because if they can, they are far too advanced to be hostile.
What we can offer them in discovery, art, culture, music and history far outweighs what we can offer them in resources and labour by about a billion.
As I said. It would be like us discovering a new sea sponge that can talk and read and write. I don’t think we’d be threatened and destroy it. Or attempt to ensl@ve it.
To each their own opinion
My point is, what would we benefit from, by sending humans to Mars? What would we learn that we haven't already learned from the information sent back by rovers? Is it necessary to send people to Mars? Obviously the planet is not suited to human settlement without some big time modifications."
I dunno. We weren’t discussing why we need to go to Mars.
I’m saying there’s aliens so advanced out there they might look at Mars (or their equivalent) and think “let’s put a water park there” and in 2 hours a swarm of AI controlled robots have built it and it’s only a 5 minute space trip away. Where as we look at Mars and see no use for it because we don’t have the technology to make it worth our while
I wasn’t making a claim that Mars is worth travelling to. I dunno how you got to that point but that might be my mistake |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system
We can get to Mars. It's just stupidly expensive and we're not entirely clear what benefit we'd derive from sending humans there. We've already probed it pretty extensively with rovers, unsure what else we'd learn from "boots on the ground", so to speak? Humans can't live there for fairly obvious reasons.
We can’t get to Mars. We can land stuff on it, but we have no idea how safely we could get boots on the ground. Or how they’d survive there for any longer than the provisions they bring.
This is what I mean by people not grasping the huge differences in technology that might exist.
A 10 man trip to Mars right now might be a death sentence.
There could be civilisations out there that consider a 10 million light year trip the way we look at popping to Tesco.
Trust me, no credible scientist believes a hostile alien life form could get to use. Because if they can, they are far too advanced to be hostile.
What we can offer them in discovery, art, culture, music and history far outweighs what we can offer them in resources and labour by about a billion.
As I said. It would be like us discovering a new sea sponge that can talk and read and write. I don’t think we’d be threatened and destroy it. Or attempt to ensl@ve it.
To each their own opinion
My point is, what would we benefit from, by sending humans to Mars? What would we learn that we haven't already learned from the information sent back by rovers? Is it necessary to send people to Mars? Obviously the planet is not suited to human settlement without some big time modifications.
I dunno. We weren’t discussing why we need to go to Mars.
I’m saying there’s aliens so advanced out there they might look at Mars (or their equivalent) and think “let’s put a water park there” and in 2 hours a swarm of AI controlled robots have built it and it’s only a 5 minute space trip away. Where as we look at Mars and see no use for it because we don’t have the technology to make it worth our while
I wasn’t making a claim that Mars is worth travelling to. I dunno how you got to that point but that might be my mistake "
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system
We can get to Mars. It's just stupidly expensive and we're not entirely clear what benefit we'd derive from sending humans there. We've already probed it pretty extensively with rovers, unsure what else we'd learn from "boots on the ground", so to speak? Humans can't live there for fairly obvious reasons.
We can’t get to Mars. We can land stuff on it, but we have no idea how safely we could get boots on the ground. Or how they’d survive there for any longer than the provisions they bring.
This is what I mean by people not grasping the huge differences in technology that might exist.
A 10 man trip to Mars right now might be a death sentence.
There could be civilisations out there that consider a 10 million light year trip the way we look at popping to Tesco.
Trust me, no credible scientist believes a hostile alien life form could get to use. Because if they can, they are far too advanced to be hostile.
What we can offer them in discovery, art, culture, music and history far outweighs what we can offer them in resources and labour by about a billion.
As I said. It would be like us discovering a new sea sponge that can talk and read and write. I don’t think we’d be threatened and destroy it. Or attempt to ensl@ve it.
To each their own opinion
My point is, what would we benefit from, by sending humans to Mars? What would we learn that we haven't already learned from the information sent back by rovers? Is it necessary to send people to Mars? Obviously the planet is not suited to human settlement without some big time modifications.
I dunno. We weren’t discussing why we need to go to Mars.
I’m saying there’s aliens so advanced out there they might look at Mars (or their equivalent) and think “let’s put a water park there” and in 2 hours a swarm of AI controlled robots have built it and it’s only a 5 minute space trip away. Where as we look at Mars and see no use for it because we don’t have the technology to make it worth our while
I wasn’t making a claim that Mars is worth travelling to. I dunno how you got to that point but that might be my mistake
You said we can't even get to Mars. I said yes we can, but there's not a lot of point. That's about it, really "
Ah right, yeah it was more of a comparison
Kinda like, we are more advanced that humans were in the 1800s. For example I can get a plane to New York in 7 hours
“But why would someone from the 1800s want to go to New York?”
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Isn’t the thread about why it’s a bad idea to send out a message to space with the instructions about how we work as a life form with directions about how to get here.
Someone mentioned that any life form that was capable of interstellar travel would be so advanced that they wouldn’t be interested in anything that we have here and there fore would be no threat. Has this person never seen mars attacks |
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"Isn’t the thread about why it’s a bad idea to send out a message to space with the instructions about how we work as a life form with directions about how to get here.
Someone mentioned that any life form that was capable of interstellar travel would be so advanced that they wouldn’t be interested in anything that we have here and there fore would be no threat. Has this person never seen mars attacks "
It’s not specifically about that it’s bad. It’s just a discussion
And I would try not to base too much of your knowledge around films.
And btw, I know that finding nemo was a great film. But fish can’t talk.
And if you’ve seen any Disney films, well, maybe save that revelation for another day |
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"If aliens attack on the back of this anyone in a lab coat will get put on the front lines as fodder so its a hell of a risk to take"
Shit, that's me taking one for the team then *quietly removes lab coat from where it's hanging to dry* |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
They could turn us into unpaid workers (fab doesn’t allow the word I wanted to use).
Why when they have AI controlled robots that can work harder, faster and more accurate than us?
It would be like us discovering a new type of caterpillar then using them instead of cars. It makes no sense
I don’t think people grasp how incredibly advanced a civilisation needs to be to travel across space.
We’re a planet full of morons and we send stuff to space all the time.
And yet we can’t even get to Mars. The closest planet in our solar system.
We have a long way to get before travelling space is even an option. There’s a big difference between putting an unmanned satellite into orbit and actually making a craft that can get past our solar system
We can get to Mars. It's just stupidly expensive and we're not entirely clear what benefit we'd derive from sending humans there. We've already probed it pretty extensively with rovers, unsure what else we'd learn from "boots on the ground", so to speak? Humans can't live there for fairly obvious reasons.
We can’t get to Mars. We can land stuff on it, but we have no idea how safely we could get boots on the ground. Or how they’d survive there for any longer than the provisions they bring.
This is what I mean by people not grasping the huge differences in technology that might exist.
A 10 man trip to Mars right now might be a death sentence.
There could be civilisations out there that consider a 10 million light year trip the way we look at popping to Tesco.
Trust me, no credible scientist believes a hostile alien life form could get to use. Because if they can, they are far too advanced to be hostile.
What we can offer them in discovery, art, culture, music and history far outweighs what we can offer them in resources and labour by about a billion.
As I said. It would be like us discovering a new sea sponge that can talk and read and write. I don’t think we’d be threatened and destroy it. Or attempt to ensl@ve it.
To each their own opinion
My point is, what would we benefit from, by sending humans to Mars? What would we learn that we haven't already learned from the information sent back by rovers? Is it necessary to send people to Mars? Obviously the planet is not suited to human settlement without some big time modifications."
The biggest thing we’d get out if it would be the test and better understand the technology it takes for further afield space travel. Whether we are ready, or now is the time in terms of investment priority is debatable. But given the limited utility of Mars to sustain life and that the distances make it uneconomic as a source of resources then other that the technological advances the endeavour for its own sake would provide then it is probably a pointless exercise. But we have to start somewhere. |
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" My point is, what would we benefit from, by sending humans to Mars? What would we learn that we haven't already learned from the information sent back by rovers? Is it necessary to send people to Mars? Obviously the planet is not suited to human settlement without some big time modifications.
The biggest thing we’d get out if it would be the test and better understand the technology it takes for further afield space travel. Whether we are ready, or now is the time in terms of investment priority is debatable. But given the limited utility of Mars to sustain life and that the distances make it uneconomic as a source of resources then other that the technological advances the endeavour for its own sake would provide then it is probably a pointless exercise. But we have to start somewhere. "
I agree it's a proof of point but otherwise pointless exercise. The biggest argument Mr KC and I have ever had in our 18 year relationship, is about the feasibility of humans ever having a permanent living facility on Mars  |
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The Pioneer 10 and 11 probes, launched in 1972 and 1973, featured a plaque showing naked human figures and a diagram showing where we are.
The Voyager 1 and 2 probes, both launched in 1977, had golden records aboard that included samples of our music and some more images.
The very first things we fired into the interstellar void were nudes, our address, and a mix tape. Let’s face it: We’re already blocked.
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions..."
Hes a bit late. NASA has sent probes and other objects into space with this information lots of times. I believe they started this in the 70s. I took part in a competition about a decade ago. My name, favourite song along with some of the notation is on a probe somewhere flying through the solar system. |
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"The Pioneer 10 and 11 probes, launched in 1972 and 1973, featured a plaque showing naked human figures and a diagram showing where we are.
The Voyager 1 and 2 probes, both launched in 1977, had golden records aboard that included samples of our music and some more images.
The very first things we fired into the interstellar void were nudes, our address, and a mix tape. Let’s face it: We’re already blocked.
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On the Mars point, it’s one thing I like about humanity. There’s a strange battle between needing to do it vs wanting to do it. Economic reasoning vs moral needs.
Why would you climb Everest and risk dying? Because something in our soul pushes us to do so.
There’s no economic reason to conquer Mars. Or space (yet). But we will. It’s part of the human spirit I think.
It reminds me of the first sailors getting ready to leave the shore with no destination in mind. It’s must have felt like almost certain death, sailing into an unending body of water with limited supplies. But they did it anyways.
I think any life that finds us will be the same. They will have passed billions of planets full of any resource they want. But only ours has music. Only ours has art and poetry. Only ours has stuff you can’t mine out of the ground and put a price tag on. |
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"On the Mars point, it’s one thing I like about humanity. There’s a strange battle between needing to do it vs wanting to do it. Economic reasoning vs moral needs.
Why would you climb Everest and risk dying? Because something in our soul pushes us to do so.
There’s no economic reason to conquer Mars. Or space (yet). But we will. It’s part of the human spirit I think.
It reminds me of the first sailors getting ready to leave the shore with no destination in mind. It’s must have felt like almost certain death, sailing into an unending body of water with limited supplies. But they did it anyways.
I think any life that finds us will be the same. They will have passed billions of planets full of any resource they want. But only ours has music. Only ours has art and poetry. Only ours has stuff you can’t mine out of the ground and put a price tag on. "
I personally think humanities future lies in Space. Unless we kill ourselves off first. Which seems more and more likely as time goes by. |
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"On the Mars point, it’s one thing I like about humanity. There’s a strange battle between needing to do it vs wanting to do it. Economic reasoning vs moral needs.
Why would you climb Everest and risk dying? Because something in our soul pushes us to do so.
There’s no economic reason to conquer Mars. Or space (yet). But we will. It’s part of the human spirit I think.
It reminds me of the first sailors getting ready to leave the shore with no destination in mind. It’s must have felt like almost certain death, sailing into an unending body of water with limited supplies. But they did it anyways.
I think any life that finds us will be the same. They will have passed billions of planets full of any resource they want. But only ours has music. Only ours has art and poetry. Only ours has stuff you can’t mine out of the ground and put a price tag on. "
Yeah I'd give a massive mountain a bash. Maybe not Everest because I'm not convinced any mobility equipment on Earth would get me up. For me, that would be proof of my own strength. It would be me setting a physical challenge against my own expectations.
The earliest explorers via sea perhaps didn't know what they'd find but I think they were pretty confident they'd find land and probably other humans. It's quite a different prospect to firing off to Mars. |
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"On the Mars point, it’s one thing I like about humanity. There’s a strange battle between needing to do it vs wanting to do it. Economic reasoning vs moral needs.
Why would you climb Everest and risk dying? Because something in our soul pushes us to do so.
There’s no economic reason to conquer Mars. Or space (yet). But we will. It’s part of the human spirit I think.
It reminds me of the first sailors getting ready to leave the shore with no destination in mind. It’s must have felt like almost certain death, sailing into an unending body of water with limited supplies. But they did it anyways.
I think any life that finds us will be the same. They will have passed billions of planets full of any resource they want. But only ours has music. Only ours has art and poetry. Only ours has stuff you can’t mine out of the ground and put a price tag on.
Yeah I'd give a massive mountain a bash. Maybe not Everest because I'm not convinced any mobility equipment on Earth would get me up. For me, that would be proof of my own strength. It would be me setting a physical challenge against my own expectations.
The earliest explorers via sea perhaps didn't know what they'd find but I think they were pretty confident they'd find land and probably other humans. It's quite a different prospect to firing off to Mars. "
Again lol
My point
Your head
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"Isn’t the thread about why it’s a bad idea to send out a message to space with the instructions about how we work as a life form with directions about how to get here.
Someone mentioned that any life form that was capable of interstellar travel would be so advanced that they wouldn’t be interested in anything that we have here and there fore would be no threat. Has this person never seen mars attacks
It’s not specifically about that it’s bad. It’s just a discussion
And I would try not to base too much of your knowledge around films.
And btw, I know that finding nemo was a great film. But fish can’t talk.
And if you’ve seen any Disney films, well, maybe save that revelation for another day "
I’m not basing anything on films, it’s just that in mars attacks they use the same rational about enlightend beings not posing a threat, right before the Martians incinerate everyone with their ray guns |
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"If aliens attack on the back of this anyone in a lab coat will get put on the front lines as fodder so its a hell of a risk to take
Shit, that's me taking one for the team then *quietly removes lab coat from where it's hanging to dry*"
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"Isn’t the thread about why it’s a bad idea to send out a message to space with the instructions about how we work as a life form with directions about how to get here.
Someone mentioned that any life form that was capable of interstellar travel would be so advanced that they wouldn’t be interested in anything that we have here and there fore would be no threat. Has this person never seen mars attacks
It’s not specifically about that it’s bad. It’s just a discussion
And I would try not to base too much of your knowledge around films.
And btw, I know that finding nemo was a great film. But fish can’t talk.
And if you’ve seen any Disney films, well, maybe save that revelation for another day
I’m not basing anything on films, it’s just that in mars attacks they use the same rational about enlightend beings not posing a threat, right before the Martians incinerate everyone with their ray guns "
“I’m not basing it on a film, it’s just that in the film that’s what happened”
Bravo young man, bravo!
If it’s like any film I hope it’s like war of the worlds where the super advanced aliens dudnt know germs existed.
That’s like us going to the moon then realising there’s no oxygen and dying
Great cinema sometimes has a few plot holes |
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"On the Mars point, it’s one thing I like about humanity. There’s a strange battle between needing to do it vs wanting to do it. Economic reasoning vs moral needs.
Why would you climb Everest and risk dying? Because something in our soul pushes us to do so.
There’s no economic reason to conquer Mars. Or space (yet). But we will. It’s part of the human spirit I think.
It reminds me of the first sailors getting ready to leave the shore with no destination in mind. It’s must have felt like almost certain death, sailing into an unending body of water with limited supplies. But they did it anyways.
I think any life that finds us will be the same. They will have passed billions of planets full of any resource they want. But only ours has music. Only ours has art and poetry. Only ours has stuff you can’t mine out of the ground and put a price tag on.
Yeah I'd give a massive mountain a bash. Maybe not Everest because I'm not convinced any mobility equipment on Earth would get me up. For me, that would be proof of my own strength. It would be me setting a physical challenge against my own expectations.
The earliest explorers via sea perhaps didn't know what they'd find but I think they were pretty confident they'd find land and probably other humans. It's quite a different prospect to firing off to Mars.
Again lol
My point
Your head
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In fairness your point was eloquently put and quite comprehensible.
They named a ship after the ‘phenomenon’ (or should that be characteristic? The ‘Spirit of Adventure” I think it is called |
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over a year ago
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Where are they getting this so called DNA from ?
Perhaps they are packaging up the criminal database,or taking a sample off Barry's discarded boxers from the bushes of Dukes Mound Brighton on a Friday night, and firing it off into the atmosphere?
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"Isn’t the thread about why it’s a bad idea to send out a message to space with the instructions about how we work as a life form with directions about how to get here.
Someone mentioned that any life form that was capable of interstellar travel would be so advanced that they wouldn’t be interested in anything that we have here and there fore would be no threat. Has this person never seen mars attacks
It’s not specifically about that it’s bad. It’s just a discussion
And I would try not to base too much of your knowledge around films.
And btw, I know that finding nemo was a great film. But fish can’t talk.
And if you’ve seen any Disney films, well, maybe save that revelation for another day
I’m not basing anything on films, it’s just that in mars attacks they use the same rational about enlightend beings not posing a threat, right before the Martians incinerate everyone with their ray guns
“I’m not basing it on a film, it’s just that in the film that’s what happened”
Bravo young man, bravo!
If it’s like any film I hope it’s like war of the worlds where the super advanced aliens dudnt know germs existed.
That’s like us going to the moon then realising there’s no oxygen and dying
Great cinema sometimes has a few plot holes "
What I’m saying is we shouldn’t make the assumption that because aliens are advanced they will be Benign.
All we can do is look at what happens on this planet as that’s all we have experience of. And what happens here is the strong survives we have no reason to believe that rule is different else where.
That thought is not based on any film. |
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"Where are they getting this so called DNA from ?
Perhaps they are packaging up the criminal database,or taking a sample off Barry's discarded boxers from the bushes of Dukes Mound Brighton on a Friday night, and firing it off into the atmosphere?
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The DNA sequence is as it would look if you sequenced a human. Different species have different numbers of chromosomal pairs. Humans for example have 46 pairs.
It's not literally the specific DNA sequence of a particular human. |
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"Where are they getting this so called DNA from ?
Perhaps they are packaging up the criminal database,or taking a sample off Barry's discarded boxers from the bushes of Dukes Mound Brighton on a Friday night, and firing it off into the atmosphere?
The DNA sequence is as it would look if you sequenced a human. Different species have different numbers of chromosomal pairs. Humans for example have 46 pairs.
It's not literally the specific DNA sequence of a particular human."
Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, with a total of 46. 23 from your mother, 23 from your father. |
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"Likely they are so far away, we would all be dead by the time the message reaches them.
Then they have to unserstand the message, consider their respinse/ actions etc
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Exactly this. These messages will take decades at least to reach an exoplanet like our own with the conditions to allow intelligent life to evolve.
Given the fact that, should our message be received and in any way and understood as well, it would take even longer for aliens to arrive here because it would take a vast amount of energy to approach anything close to light speed.
So it's far more likely that, rather than making the long journey, they would message us back first to try to ascertain whether we're worth making the effort for.
Maybe they'll send us dick pics. |
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Maybe it’ll be like arrival and they’ve somehow broken the space time continuum
Learning how to communicate might be the biggest hurdle with no common reference point to work off.
Maybe it’s an AI that already knows English
Who knows |
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What we are agreeing here is that these crazy scientists are setting up our descendants for slaughter...
Why are these alians attacking us and eating us mummy?
Because some idiot scientist sent them our location and DNA profile in years gone by... |
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"Where are they getting this so called DNA from ?
Perhaps they are packaging up the criminal database,or taking a sample off Barry's discarded boxers from the bushes of Dukes Mound Brighton on a Friday night, and firing it off into the atmosphere?
The DNA sequence is as it would look if you sequenced a human. Different species have different numbers of chromosomal pairs. Humans for example have 46 pairs.
It's not literally the specific DNA sequence of a particular human.
Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, with a total of 46. 23 from your mother, 23 from your father."
Ah yes. You're quite correct. I was half way there. Been a while since I did biology. Glad google could help you out  |
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"What we are agreeing here is that these crazy scientists are setting up our descendants for slaughter...
Why are these alians attacking us and eating us mummy?
Because some idiot scientist sent them our location and DNA profile in years gone by..."
Sounds like an idea for a scifi horror show. Maybe you should pitch your novel, vaguely plausible plot line to some directors or something |
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"Likely they are so far away, we would all be dead by the time the message reaches them.
Then they have to unserstand the message, consider their respinse/ actions etc
Exactly this. These messages will take decades at least to reach an exoplanet like our own with the conditions to allow intelligent life to evolve.
Given the fact that, should our message be received and in any way and understood as well, it would take even longer for aliens to arrive here because it would take a vast amount of energy to approach anything close to light speed.
So it's far more likely that, rather than making the long journey, they would message us back first to try to ascertain whether we're worth making the effort for.
Maybe they'll send us dick pics. "
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"What we are agreeing here is that these crazy scientists are setting up our descendants for slaughter...
Why are these alians attacking us and eating us mummy?
Because some idiot scientist sent them our location and DNA profile in years gone by..."
Tbf any alien life that has the capability to build a ship that can get to Earth would have evolved over a much longer time frame than we have here ..
Which would mean they probably haven't fucked their own planet up like we have and hence shouldn't be hostile Tom |
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"What we are agreeing here is that these crazy scientists are setting up our descendants for slaughter...
Why are these alians attacking us and eating us mummy?
Because some idiot scientist sent them our location and DNA profile in years gone by..."
I think the solution is clear, become a Luddite and eschew all things science. Start with binning your phone |
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"Likely they are so far away, we would all be dead by the time the message reaches them.
Then they have to unserstand the message, consider their respinse/ actions etc
Exactly this. These messages will take decades at least to reach an exoplanet like our own with the conditions to allow intelligent life to evolve.
Given the fact that, should our message be received and in any way and understood as well, it would take even longer for aliens to arrive here because it would take a vast amount of energy to approach anything close to light speed.
So it's far more likely that, rather than making the long journey, they would message us back first to try to ascertain whether we're worth making the effort for.
Maybe they'll send us dick pics.
Tentacle erotica is a thing - just saying"
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By *trideMan
over a year ago
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Don’t bother to vote about advertising our existence, because any interested life-form out there will already know all they need to know about us.
Native Americans couldn’t communicate with West Africans by smoke signals.
West Africans couldn’t communicate with Native Americans using drum signals.
We can’t communicate with potentially dangerous alien life-forms in other solar systems using radio and light signals.
It’s all about distance and time. Truly advanced intelligent life will be communicating and travelling by means that we have yet to discover.
Should we be unfortunate enough to discover how to interact with aliens, they will immediately exterminate us. From ANY point of view (other than our own), we are vermin. We persist in deliberately and knowingly contaminating the land, the oceans, the atmosphere, and near-Earth space. First contact with members of an INTELLIGENT civilisation will result in our prompt and total eradicated.
We currently have the necessary technology to create completely independent colonies on Mars (see “The Martian” film of 2015). In the long-term, the low gravity would weaken the colonists to such an extent that they wouldn’t be able to return to Earth. The purpose of their existence would be to survive a mass human extinction event on Earth – e.g. meteor strike, Covid +++, etc.
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"I think they should send our actual DNA so the aliens can pick the perfect anal prove that’s individually tailored to each of us."
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Perhaps they are packaging up the criminal database,or taking a sample off Barry's discarded boxers from the bushes of Dukes Mound Brighton on a Friday night, and firing it off into the atmosphere?
The DNA sequence is as it would look if you sequenced a human. Different species have different numbers of chromosomal pairs. Humans for example have 46 pairs.
It's not literally the specific DNA sequence of a particular human.
Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, with a total of 46. 23 from your mother, 23 from your father.
Ah yes. You're quite correct. I was half way there. Been a while since I did biology. Glad google could help you out "
I teach Biology for a living, but never mind. Why does everyone assume that anyone with a modicum of scientific knowledge get it from Google? It's my day job to know stuff like that |
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"Don’t bother to vote about advertising our existence, because any interested life-form out there will already know all they need to know about us.
Native Americans couldn’t communicate with West Africans by smoke signals.
West Africans couldn’t communicate with Native Americans using drum signals.
We can’t communicate with potentially dangerous alien life-forms in other solar systems using radio and light signals.
It’s all about distance and time. Truly advanced intelligent life will be communicating and travelling by means that we have yet to discover.
Should we be unfortunate enough to discover how to interact with aliens, they will immediately exterminate us. From ANY point of view (other than our own), we are vermin. We persist in deliberately and knowingly contaminating the land, the oceans, the atmosphere, and near-Earth space. First contact with members of an INTELLIGENT civilisation will result in our prompt and total eradicated.
We currently have the necessary technology to create completely independent colonies on Mars (see “The Martian” film of 2015). In the long-term, the low gravity would weaken the colonists to such an extent that they wouldn’t be able to return to Earth. The purpose of their existence would be to survive a mass human extinction event on Earth – e.g. meteor strike, Covid +++, etc.
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Basically this, once we manage to colonise other places in are solar system the different environments well change us over the course of a few generations. This people will then be suited to living in that environment and wouldn’t be able to come home. The question is at this point would we still consider these humans or are they a different species with a common ancestor |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"We currently have the necessary technology to create completely independent colonies on Mars (see “The Martian” film of 2015). In the long-term, the low gravity would weaken the colonists to such an extent that they wouldn’t be able to return to Earth. The purpose of their existence would be to survive a mass human extinction event on Earth – e.g. meteor strike, Covid +++, etc.
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The Expanse (Sci fi) covers this! Kind of.
The humans that colonised Mars (many years ago) are generally taller in appearance after a few generations. The same goes for those that live on the asteroid mining stations (even lower gravity than mars) - taller and longer limbed with often larger craniums and brittle bones. They struggle when on earth due to the higher gravity, with them being born in to low gravity. |
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"I think they should send our actual DNA so the aliens can pick the perfect anal prove that’s individually tailored to each of us.
See… they’re a lot more like us than we give them credit for. Obsessed with sticking big things up arses."
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Well if Alien life forms do exist they'd come here and look at what we've done to our planet ?? and either run away or blow us up ?? ....We are hardly a good advertisment for so called intelligent life ?? |
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By *m389Man
over a year ago
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If an alien species were able to visit us then we should contemplate how insignificant we are to them.
When you drive on the highway, you wouldn’t give a flying fuck about the anthill you drove past.
In the same way, we might not register as anything of interest at all to very advanced aliens. Maybe a child alien might come along and poke us like an ant hill…
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" Well if Alien life forms do exist they'd come here and look at what we've done to our planet ?? and either run away or blow us up ?? ....We are hardly a good advertisment for so called intelligent life ??"
I’d imagine they went through the same things
Sadly you can’t discover nuclear power without first discovering fossil fuels.
And because of that all advanced civilisations will go through a stage in their history where massive use of fossil fuels is required. It’s only after that (if you make it that far) that you can discover cleaner alternatives.
Hopefully they’ll remember that and see us not as pests or vermin, but as a toddler civilisation that hasn’t learned the stove is hot and can hurt you yet. They might see it as a chance to help guide us towards cleaner sustainable methods of energy production. |
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"We have been broadcasting into space since the 1970's, updating our message is only logical.
Gotta initiate First Contact somehow "
Yeah but have they tried emailing them.  |
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"We have been broadcasting into space since the 1970's, updating our message is only logical.
Gotta initiate First Contact somehow
Yeah but have they tried emailing them. "
Maybe we should send a fax? Or page them? |
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions..."
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?"
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world |
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world "
Playing with fire is fun though. Nothing nicer than dipping your glass spreader into a pot of 98% ethanol and setting fire to it (aka flaming it). I miss the old ways |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world
Playing with fire is fun though. Nothing nicer than dipping your glass spreader into a pot of 98% ethanol and setting fire to it (aka flaming it). I miss the old ways "
Creatures have camolage for a reason.. to stop predators eating them...
These moronic science types want to strip our camouflage for reasons known only to them... |
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world
Playing with fire is fun though. Nothing nicer than dipping your glass spreader into a pot of 98% ethanol and setting fire to it (aka flaming it). I miss the old ways
Creatures have camolage for a reason.. to stop predators eating them...
These moronic science types want to strip our camouflage for reasons known only to them..."
What camouflage does the Earth have? Or did I miss that geochemistry lecture? |
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world
Playing with fire is fun though. Nothing nicer than dipping your glass spreader into a pot of 98% ethanol and setting fire to it (aka flaming it). I miss the old ways
Creatures have camolage for a reason.. to stop predators eating them...
These moronic science types want to strip our camouflage for reasons known only to them...
What camouflage does the Earth have? Or did I miss that geochemistry lecture?"
I think he means camouflaged in the vast endless of space and broadcasting our location is removing that
I think |
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There's definitely life out they,us on earth are proof that a planet can house life,we're just a speck of dust in this universe, we can't be the only ones.
To think some people find it ludicrous is funny,I always say "we're here,so it can happen". |
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world
Playing with fire is fun though. Nothing nicer than dipping your glass spreader into a pot of 98% ethanol and setting fire to it (aka flaming it). I miss the old ways
Creatures have camolage for a reason.. to stop predators eating them...
These moronic science types want to strip our camouflage for reasons known only to them...
What camouflage does the Earth have? Or did I miss that geochemistry lecture?
I think he means camouflaged in the vast endless of space and broadcasting our location is removing that
I think "
Well, we've been doing that for a long time now, since at least the 70s (SETI). Maybe we'll shout louder this time? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this.
Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world
Playing with fire is fun though. Nothing nicer than dipping your glass spreader into a pot of 98% ethanol and setting fire to it (aka flaming it). I miss the old ways
Creatures have camolage for a reason.. to stop predators eating them...
These moronic science types want to strip our camouflage for reasons known only to them...
What camouflage does the Earth have? Or did I miss that geochemistry lecture?"
Our camouflage is the clouds.. they shield the earth from prying Alian eyes.. and these so called scientific buggers want to strip away our camouflage and broadcast our location and DNA to alians that they don't know or understsnd... There should be a public vote on this and a people's vote.. we have everything to lose and nothing to win.. |
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this.
Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world
Playing with fire is fun though. Nothing nicer than dipping your glass spreader into a pot of 98% ethanol and setting fire to it (aka flaming it). I miss the old ways
Creatures have camolage for a reason.. to stop predators eating them...
These moronic science types want to strip our camouflage for reasons known only to them...
What camouflage does the Earth have? Or did I miss that geochemistry lecture?
Our camouflage is the clouds.. they shield the earth from prying Alian eyes.. and these so called scientific buggers want to strip away our camouflage and broadcast our location and DNA to alians that they don't know or understsnd... There should be a public vote on this and a people's vote.. we have everything to lose and nothing to win.. "
I’ve written a nice letter asking them not to reveal your address Tom so you’ll be quite safe. The Aliens will only come for the rest of of us. |
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this.
Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions...
Who’s your source Sally from Facebook?
My source...?
It's all over the news ..
My interpretation ..
These science buggers are playing with fire and the future of the world
Playing with fire is fun though. Nothing nicer than dipping your glass spreader into a pot of 98% ethanol and setting fire to it (aka flaming it). I miss the old ways
Creatures have camolage for a reason.. to stop predators eating them...
These moronic science types want to strip our camouflage for reasons known only to them...
What camouflage does the Earth have? Or did I miss that geochemistry lecture?
Our camouflage is the clouds.. they shield the earth from prying Alian eyes.. and these so called scientific buggers want to strip away our camouflage and broadcast our location and DNA to alians that they don't know or understsnd... There should be a public vote on this and a people's vote.. we have everything to lose and nothing to win.. "
So camouflage is water vapour?
So the way to protect your house is to buy several hundred kettles and keep the water boiling... |
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"Warped scientists are intending to beam our location and DNA details into the Milky Way to share our existene with alien life. Tom is 100% against this and there should be a people's vote on this. Who knows what lurks out there and what are their intentions..."
We’ve already fired enough into space that could be used against us, the last decade or so we became a very noisy planet sending satellites and rockets everywhere, just wait until Elon is finished with Starship |
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Due to our positioning on an outer arm of the Milky Way, we are quite a "young" civilisation in galactic terms.
Other civilisations would be much older, some by a factor of millions of years older than us.
Some of those civilisations will have risen and fallen, and be no more.
Others may merely be microbes, their story yet to evolve.
What lurks out there ? Who knows ?
What are their intentions ? Same as ours. To survive.
If you want to know what an "alien" culture wants, I'd suggest looking at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs pyramid to get you started on an anthro or more accurately xenopological understanding of what all organisms start off requiring. Sure, they may an off-ramp before some of the more advanced needs, but the basics are the same.
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"How could anyone think we are alone in the Galaxy not a mind the universe
There are 100 billion planet's in the milky-way if only 0.000001% held life that would be 1000 different civilisations "
I think due to sheer size, there's likely other life in the universe.
Intelligent life? Possible, less likely
Intelligent life physically able to come to us? Less likely again
Intelligent life physically able to come to us that gives a shit? Unlikely |
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over a year ago
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"How could anyone think we are alone in the Galaxy not a mind the universe
There are 100 billion planet's in the milky-way if only 0.000001% held life that would be 1000 different civilisations
I think due to sheer size, there's likely other life in the universe.
Intelligent life? Possible, less likely
Intelligent life physically able to come to us? Less likely again
Intelligent life physically able to come to us that gives a shit? Unlikely"
Pretty much.
Conditions to generate life require a certain mix of elements and compounds on a body within a certain distance from a star. Given the sheer scale of the universe, the sheer number of stars within it, and in turn the number of said orbital bodies the correct distance away from those stars... us being the one and only rock to have life spawn upon it are pretty much a mathematical impossibility.
However, those exact same facts - namely the sheer size of the universe and, therefore, the unimaginably vast distances of emptyness between us and any other planets with life on them, means that chances of us ever seeing or hearing anything of them (or them of us) is pretty much just as much of a mathematical impossibility.
If anything of the kind were to occur, I feel it would be picking up on some kind of transmitted signal or piece of data, and that its point of origin so astronmically far away from us that it would already by millions of years old... and therefore the life at the other side of it long exstinct. The same being true of all our radio waves and signals we've been transmitting for decades. Maybe one day something out there will pick it up. But we'll be long, long gone by that point.
TL;DR... space is big, guys. Like, really big. |
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"If an alien species has gotten to the point they can travel light years across space to us, we have nothing to offer them in terms of resources
The rarest things in the universe and intelligent life and culture.
It would be like us discovering a new type of sea sponge and then nuking it. There’s no point. We offer zero threat and are incredibly rare.
I actually like the theory that there is vast space colonies keeping a watchful eye on intelligent life, waiting for us to tick a list of check boxes before being contacted.
Unlikely, we have been broadcasting radio waves for about 80 years that means only anyone 80 light years away would hear us, given the galaxy is one hundred thousand light years across that’s not very far, if there is life elsewhere then it’ll be a long way away I mean a really long way away. Plus there is lots of shit out there spewing out radiation things like the hearts of2 galaxies colliding and actually warping space. Do you think anyone is going to notice run runs of the two Ronnies?"
You mean like, in a galaxy far far away? I think I've seen a 6 part documentary about this.
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It will take 100’s if not 1000’s of years to reach galaxies where there is a possibility of life, so let’s not panic
That said, if we have been visited then they haven’t seen us worth contacting so why worry |
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