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People have made allegations that Glitter had sex with underage girls at after show parties etc.
The prog about Savile suggests that it was when he was at Savile's parties.
If there is a woman who says it happened to her then he will be prosecuted.
If he is sure that the girls were over sixteen or no underage girl comes forward then he can't be proven guilty or in other words he isn't guilty.
I think it's part of the investigation and necessary.
He didn't look too worried when he left his flat at seven this morning... time will tell.
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over a year ago
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First of many without a doubt. I'm surprised he never got out of the country to be honest, though he seems to be in denial in much the same way Jonathon King was. |
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Someone has to prove that the girls he had sex with were underage.
If a girl comes forward and says he had sex with her when she was fourteen and he says he didn't ..... where's the proof ?
A witness ??
I'm serious. HOW is a case going to be proved against him without evidence ? |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"Someone has to prove that the girls he had sex with were underage.
If a girl comes forward and says he had sex with her when she was fourteen and he says he didn't ..... where's the proof ?
A witness ??
I'm serious. HOW is a case going to be proved against him without evidence ?"
Apparently there were 7 opportunities to have prosecuted Savile when he was alive. I reckon they have more evidence than we realise. |
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"First of many without a doubt. I'm surprised he never got out of the country to be honest, though he seems to be in denial in much the same way Jonathon King was. "
He did run to Vietnam (or was it Thailand?) but got caught over there too, he served time and was then sent back. |
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over a year ago
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Ooh, I can see this thread being deleted quite soon with all these people's names being pulled out of the hat and being named as being possible paedophiles x |
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"First of many without a doubt. I'm surprised he never got out of the country to be honest, though he seems to be in denial in much the same way Jonathon King was.
He did run to Vietnam (or was it Thailand?) but got caught over there too, he served time and was then sent back."
Did he run off to Thailand? Wasn't that where he commmitted offences several years ago? He committed offences there and was sent back I thought. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I heard there were missed opportunities but im talking about Glitter.
What kind of evidence is needed ?
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The same as in any case like this, which is what makes convictions very difficult but not impossible. |
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"Ooh, I can see this thread being deleted quite soon with all these people's names being pulled out of the hat and being named as being possible paedophiles x"
 Can feel the words 'Thread closed by moderator' coming on... 
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"I heard there were missed opportunities but im talking about Glitter.
What kind of evidence is needed ?
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I don't know, being honest. But in order to charge him they must be confident that they have sufficient evidence to go to court. A lot will only come out in court, if it gets that far, in fear of prejudicing the case. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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With Glitter they will be looking at what in Scotland is the Moorov doctrine, not sure if it's used in England but its usually used in sexual offence cases where it's the offenders word against the complainers but where there are several different complainers giving evidence against the same person and the circumstances, modus operandi etc is so similar they corroborate each other. |
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Just read the Guardian report from 2006 about Glitter. He didn't run to Thailand he was over there committing offences and was found guilty and jailed.
No mention of the girls relatives being prosecuted though and these were the women that pimped the children out to Glitter......
mind boggling.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think it is wrong to name people on this thread..."
The 2 names that I mentioned both relate to people that have aalready been mentioned in the press. I do think that the idle speculation is wrong though. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"I think it is wrong to name people on this thread...
The 2 names that I mentioned both relate to people that have aalready been mentioned in the press. I do think that the idle speculation is wrong though."
I agree, Glitter is on the news and Starr came forward and did inter_iews
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"First of many without a doubt. I'm surprised he never got out of the country to be honest, though he seems to be in denial in much the same way Jonathon King was.
He did run to Vietnam (or was it Thailand?) but got caught over there too, he served time and was then sent back.
Did he run off to Thailand? Wasn't that where he commmitted offences several years ago? He committed offences there and was sent back I thought. "
Yeah, he was convicted over here, served time and upon release he fled to Thailand and was caught molesting children there too. He served time over there and once released was sent back here. |
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"He was put on the sex offenders register for having illegal pics but he never fled prosecution or arrest."
I never said he fled from prosecution or arrest. He fled after being released because of death threats from members of the public. |
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"He was put on the sex offenders register for having illegal pics but he never fled prosecution or arrest.
I never said he fled from prosecution or arrest. He fled after being released because of death threats from members of the public."
I never said you said I said we said she ........... |
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"He was put on the sex offenders register for having illegal pics but he never fled prosecution or arrest.
I never said he fled from prosecution or arrest. He fled after being released because of death threats from members of the public.
I never said you said I said we said she ........... "
Yeah, but, I thought...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ok after having a chat with admin about this
NO names are to be mentioned that hav'nt already been mentioned in the press as having some connection to the case
Ive now made the thread considerably shorter  |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"Ok after having a chat with admin about this
NO names are to be mentioned that hav'nt already been mentioned in the press as having some connection to the case
Ive now made the thread considerably shorter "
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speculating about people who have been named in connection to a story in main stream media is not illegal.
I reported my abuse to police as there may have been a connection. Ive just been told my report has been flagged up to the team investigating saville. If my case is connected then there is/was a very large paedo ring operating here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Surely this thread should now be closed if Glitter is under investigation?
Personally, I think giving the slimeball any air time, media time, or our time is too good for him. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It does all seem like a house of cards. max Clifford made an interesting comment, saying he had been having calls from stars in the UK and USA, who feel they may be implicated.
I truly hope the find and convict everyone guilty of these crimes |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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one part of me worries that they have gone for him to show action... I don't know why people didn't come forward about him after his last jail sentence, Saville may have been protected and people may not have believed victims, BUT GLITTER.
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"I think it is wrong to name people on this thread...
Yes you are right.
sadly speculation sticks "
Yes it does. Lots of people will remain convinced that William Hague is a closet homosexual rather than accept his entirely reasonable explanation as to why he shared a bedroom with that nice young man. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"id hang every one of the bastards.
I prefer to hang those who knew but never took action  "
This leaves me filled with disgust,that adults in a position to stand up to someone and protect vulnerable people just kept it quiet until now they're all sayong oh it was common knowledge and it was all just ignored
I hope they feel absolute shame now |
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"I hope they feel absolute shame now"
I doubt they'll feel ashamed
Self pity more like, once they receive the dreaded knock on the door
It took 20 years to get to the truth about Hillsborough, the truth will prevail no matter how long it takes. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"I think it is wrong to name people on this thread...
Yes you are right.
sadly speculation sticks
Yes it does. Lots of people will remain convinced that William Hague is a closet homosexual rather than accept his entirely reasonable explanation as to why he shared a bedroom with that nice young man."
and so much easier on sites where real names aren't given |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"I hope they feel absolute shame now
I doubt they'll feel ashamed
Self pity more like, once they receive the dreaded knock on the door
It took 20 years to get to the truth about Hillsborough, the truth will prevail no matter how long it takes. "
Now that i agree with xxx |
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"id hang every one of the bastards.
I prefer to hang those who knew but never took action
This leaves me filled with disgust,that adults in a position to stand up to someone and protect vulnerable people just kept it quiet until now they're all sayong oh it was common knowledge and it was all just ignored
I hope they feel absolute shame now"
None more so than his family who turned a blond eye whilst he molested his nieces etc because they wanted to continue riding the gravy train; despicable people! |
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"id hang every one of the bastards.
I prefer to hang those who knew but never took action
This leaves me filled with disgust,that adults in a position to stand up to someone and protect vulnerable people just kept it quiet until now they're all sayong oh it was common knowledge and it was all just ignored
I hope they feel absolute shame now
None more so than his family who turned a blond eye whilst he molested his nieces etc because they wanted to continue riding the gravy train; despicable people!"
*blind |
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"id hang every one of the bastards.
I prefer to hang those who knew but never took action
This leaves me filled with disgust,that adults in a position to stand up to someone and protect vulnerable people just kept it quiet until now they're all sayong oh it was common knowledge and it was all just ignored
I hope they feel absolute shame now
None more so than his family who turned a blond eye whilst he molested his nieces etc because they wanted to continue riding the gravy train; despicable people!
*blind"
The CPS will have to bring out their top guns if they want to nail any of this next batch of celebrity nonce cases who are due to get outed shortly..I was all a long long time ago, no witnesses etc etc..
Hopefully the guilty ones will do the tax payer a favour and hang themselves before they get the 6'o clock knock knock from the police. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"id hang every one of the bastards.
I prefer to hang those who knew but never took action
This leaves me filled with disgust,that adults in a position to stand up to someone and protect vulnerable people just kept it quiet until now they're all sayong oh it was common knowledge and it was all just ignored
I hope they feel absolute shame now
None more so than his family who turned a blond eye whilst he molested his nieces etc because they wanted to continue riding the gravy train; despicable people!
*blind
The CPS will have to bring out their top guns if they want to nail any of this next batch of celebrity nonce cases who are due to get outed shortly..I was all a long long time ago, no witnesses etc etc..
Hopefully the guilty ones will do the tax payer a favour and hang themselves before they get the 6'o clock knock knock from the police."
I can imagine some will fall on a sword rather than do porridge |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wonder how many other are quaking in their shoes at Glitters new arrest.
I'm sure a few of his former associates hung him out to dry after his former exploits, he's got nothing to lose but a heavier sentence now. |
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This shocks me to the same magnitude as Harold Shipman or Josef Fritzl. The turn of events is equally stunning and barely believable. What I can't believe is how long they were able to blatantly get away with it. As kids these were our heroes and seemed so wonderful. How wrong could we have been. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i couldnt believe that sick tshirt someone was selling on ebay.
bet you can google which celebs could be involved but i just dont want to know.
i know its sick but frankie boyle's twitter has had me laughing  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I still can not believe not one boss at the BBC did not take any of these allegations seriously if any ones heads are going to roll it should be the bosses etc.With all the sexual harressment cases these days in the common workplace you can not even get away with a snide sexual remark without getting pulled up for it.Slime bag Glitter is just the first of many to go down but I bet he makes a deal with the Police to blow the whistler on all who knew about the goings on. |
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over a year ago
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I did read last week that those that knew but did nothing would also be criminally investigated.
However will any of those implicated get a fair trial, after all 90 per cent of the population has decided who is guilty already. Sadly the idea of a jury of your peers is severly flawed. Although it seems even worse in America so hey ho. Just my 2ps worth. |
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people keep asking why no one came forward at the time or waited till saville died. It is common to all sex abuse victims that they perceive they wont be believed. It is doubly so if the abuser is a celebrity or someone important.Predetory paedo's are masters at manipulation and picking victims who are vulnerable. They also make the victim believe they are somehow complicit and equally guilty of wrong doing. It can take many years before a victim realises this isnt the case, and then perhaps they feel it is to late. It is also very common for people around an abuser and victim that they go into a state of disbelief or denial about what is going on. Saville is a perfect example of that he had the whole country doing that. |
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Lets finish this admittedly awful thread in the true British style with a joke now doing the rounds.....
Many years ago Tony Blackburn was invited to a wild pool party. He took along his pals Glitter and Saville.
When he arrived at the house with his mates, the host opened the door looked them up and down and said to Blackburn : "You deaf bastard: I told you to bring a pair of Speedo's!"
Thank you and good night..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Freddie Starr now, how many more I wonder?
I thought he had gone to the police of his own accord to clear his name"
He may have said that, but despite his name being mentioned weeks ago he hasn;t yet. And has today been arrested. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"well none of it rests easy. its scary to think that there could possibly be lots of people we grew up with that we found enjoyable to watch could be involved"
I adored gary glitter and went to nearly every concert he gave, had all his music (still do somewhere)
I was gutted when all his sordid habits came out.
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"You kinda get the feeling its the first of many
What about the old guy from steptoe and son? Wasn't he mentioned?"
Wilfred Brables' tastes were in a slightly different direction, shall we say... and quite well documented.
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"You kinda get the feeling its the first of many
What about the old guy from steptoe and son? Wasn't he mentioned?
Wilfred Brables' tastes were in a slightly different direction, shall we say... and quite well documented.
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Didn't know that! What about Derek from bay city rollers? |
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"You kinda get the feeling its the first of many
What about the old guy from steptoe and son? Wasn't he mentioned?
Wilfred Brables' tastes were in a slightly different direction, shall we say... and quite well documented.
Didn't know that! What about Derek from bay city rollers?"
""(Wilfred)Brambell was homosexual[6][7] at a time when it was almost impossible for public figures to be openly gay, not least because male homosexual acts were illegal in the UK until 1967. In 1962 he was arrested in a toilet in Shepherd's Bush for persistently importuning and given a conditional discharge.[8][9] Earlier in his life he had been married, from 1948 to 1955, to Mary "Molly" Josephine but the relationship ended after she gave birth to the child of their lodger in 1953.[7] In 2012 he was accused of abusing in the 1970s two boys aged 12-13 backstage in the Jersey Opera House. One of the boys was from the Haut de la Garenne children's home.[10]
Brambell died of cancer in Westminster,[11] London, aged 72. He was cremated on 25 January 1985 at Streatham Park Cemetery, where his ashes were scattered."" (wiki)
He was arrested 2 or 3 times for picking up rent boys. I wasn't aware of the bit about Haut de la Garenne though...
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"I only heard something on the news recently. I really like the program! I think this thread will continue as the news updates. Bit of an iffy connection going to the channel islands."
I meant it was an iffy thing to do. |
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"I only heard something on the news recently. I really like the program! I think this thread will continue as the news updates. Bit of an iffy connection going to the channel islands.
I meant it was an iffy thing to do. "
Know what you mean. Almost like any tiny connection to the current investigation is going to be grasped at
As far as what Bramble did otherwise, I can remember my parents making 'comments' watching Steptoe and Son in the early 70's, but as I was only about 9 or 10, I didn't cotton on to what they were hinting at, but it was (fairly) common knowledge even then.
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Listening to the radio today - it seems that a team of legal experts are trawling social networking sites looking for anyone who (wrongly) named a senior conservative figure as being involved in the abuse of children. Any who did post comments of this nature may now be pursued through the courts for compensation!
So all, please be careful when putting someone's name into the public domain - because if they are not guilty, or found to be guilty by a court of law - YOU may find yourself in court!
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"Listening to the radio today - it seems that a team of legal experts are trawling social networking sites looking for anyone who (wrongly) named a senior conservative figure as being involved in the abuse of children. Any who did post comments of this nature may now be pursued through the courts for compensation!
So all, please be careful when putting someone's name into the public domain - because if they are not guilty, or found to be guilty by a court of law - YOU may find yourself in court!
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quite right, if people are named, the folks naming them should be accountable for any impact that occurs |
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"All this gloating is rather sad really, it's almost like some people are getting off on the whole matter.
Sad indeed"
I know some of it may well come over as gloating, but to those of us for whom the people being implicated were practically icons in their day, it is more a way of expressing disbelief.
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"All this gloating is rather sad really, it's almost like some people are getting off on the whole matter.
Sad indeed
I know some of it may well come over as gloating, but to those of us for whom the people being implicated were practically icons in their day, it is more a way of expressing disbelief.
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well said. I am surprised at both Travis and Cyril Smith |
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"Listening to the radio today - it seems that a team of legal experts are trawling social networking sites looking for anyone who (wrongly) named a senior conservative figure as being involved in the abuse of children. Any who did post comments of this nature may now be pursued through the courts for compensation!
So all, please be careful when putting someone's name into the public domain - because if they are not guilty, or found to be guilty by a court of law - YOU may find yourself in court!
quite right, if people are named, the folks naming them should be accountable for any impact that occurs"
It would be interesting to see the judge in court charge Mr WishyNSiren with some sort of crime.
This is NOT a social netowrking site, it is a private swinging site where you have to be a member (and then wait a week) before you can post on the forums. Any reporter would have to go through the same process to even see our full usernames. |
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"Listening to the radio today - it seems that a team of legal experts are trawling social networking sites looking for anyone who (wrongly) named a senior conservative figure as being involved in the abuse of children. Any who did post comments of this nature may now be pursued through the courts for compensation!
So all, please be careful when putting someone's name into the public domain - because if they are not guilty, or found to be guilty by a court of law - YOU may find yourself in court!
quite right, if people are named, the folks naming them should be accountable for any impact that occurs
It would be interesting to see the judge in court charge Mr WishyNSiren with some sort of crime.
This is NOT a social netowrking site, it is a private swinging site where you have to be a member (and then wait a week) before you can post on the forums. Any reporter would have to go through the same process to even see our full usernames."
They might have to put Sirens tits in a line up to identify you listen |
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"Listening to the radio today - it seems that a team of legal experts are trawling social networking sites looking for anyone who (wrongly) named a senior conservative figure as being involved in the abuse of children. Any who did post comments of this nature may now be pursued through the courts for compensation!
So all, please be careful when putting someone's name into the public domain - because if they are not guilty, or found to be guilty by a court of law - YOU may find yourself in court!
quite right, if people are named, the folks naming them should be accountable for any impact that occurs
It would be interesting to see the judge in court charge Mr WishyNSiren with some sort of crime.
This is NOT a social netowrking site, it is a private swinging site where you have to be a member (and then wait a week) before you can post on the forums. Any reporter would have to go through the same process to even see our full usernames.
They might have to put Sirens tits in a line up to identify you listen "
She'd love that. A bunch of coppers all looking at her tits and saying, "turn to the left please. Full frontal please, a little to the right please." |
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This is NOT a social netowrking site, it is a private swinging site where you have to be a member (and then wait a week) before you can post on the forums. Any reporter would have to go through the same process to even see our full usernames.
Its not reporters looking through websites, but the legal team acting on behalf of the wrongly named individual.
The fact is that even by posting here you are posting to the public domain, as anyone who wants to can read the material, obviously you have misinterpreted the well meant intent in our post. |
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"This is NOT a social netowrking site, it is a private swinging site where you have to be a member (and then wait a week) before you can post on the forums. Any reporter would have to go through the same process to even see our full usernames.
Its not reporters looking through websites, but the legal team acting on behalf of the wrongly named individual.
The fact is that even by posting here you are posting to the public domain, as anyone who wants to can read the material, obviously you have misinterpreted the well meant intent in our post."
This site is well down on the z-list of sites legal moles search for defamatory material against their clients. It's far easier to search a major site like Facebook or twitter, and on those sites there is rarely a contention over whether someone is using their real name or not. Facebook relies upon people using their real identity or it becomes rather pointless using it (unless a user's intent is to troll) and Twitter relies upon building up a community of followers which is pretty hard to do if you keep changing your username.
This site is a threat to nobody famous unless they are swingers and don't want it publicly known. I wish Admin would realise this and realise they're not about to be hauled up in court because the reality is that nobody but us really cares what a small bunch of swingers have to say about anything or anyone.
(I'd include all the Sydney University warners in this too. Just you try suing Sydney University for nicking the blurred image of your twat, or a close up of MonsterCock, or CreamPieFanny's latest upload.)  |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Don't be lulled into a false sense of security Wishy, just because your name isn't your real name it doesn't mean you can't be traced.
We all leave a trace when using the net, and if we break the law doing that then we can get hauled up for it. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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"Dave lee travis been arrested now due to the saville enquiry "
That's not correct! He hasn't been arrested in connection with the Saville enquiry; he has been arrested on similar charges but not involved with Jimmy Saville. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Don't be lulled into a false sense of security Wishy, just because your name isn't your real name it doesn't mean you can't be traced.
We all leave a trace when using the net, and if we break the law doing that then we can get hauled up for it."
I know Ruggers. All ISPs have to keep a record of who was using which IP address and when etc. but in the context of what we're talking about I don't think we'll be seeing MI5 knocking on the door anytime soon. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Don't be lulled into a false sense of security Wishy, just because your name isn't your real name it doesn't mean you can't be traced.
We all leave a trace when using the net, and if we break the law doing that then we can get hauled up for it.
I know Ruggers. All ISPs have to keep a record of who was using which IP address and when etc. but in the context of what we're talking about I don't think we'll be seeing MI5 knocking on the door anytime soon. "
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over a year ago
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"Dave lee travis been arrested now due to the saville enquiry
Quack quack oops!
(the old fogies will get that one)"
hes not part of the saville enquiry at all, its down to sexual harassment lol, i love how rumours spread |
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"Don't be lulled into a false sense of security Wishy, just because your name isn't your real name it doesn't mean you can't be traced.
We all leave a trace when using the net, and if we break the law doing that then we can get hauled up for it.
I know Ruggers. All ISPs have to keep a record of who was using which IP address and when etc. but in the context of what we're talking about I don't think we'll be seeing MI5 knocking on the door anytime soon. "
Unless they've got a profile on here |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Dave lee travis been arrested now due to the saville enquiry
Quack quack oops!
(the old fogies will get that one)
hes not part of the saville enquiry at all, its down to sexual harassment lol, i love how rumours spread "
Quack quack oops! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Freddy Starr should be shot innocent or guilty ... creepy little violent unfunny bullying d*unk inept little shit."
He was too quick to become the victim. Then he blamed his state on the stress of it all. I'd blame the bottle of whisky and 70 fags a day for that! |
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"Freddy Starr should be shot innocent or guilty ... creepy little violent unfunny bullying d*unk inept little shit.
He was too quick to become the victim. Then he blamed his state on the stress of it all. I'd blame the bottle of whisky and 70 fags a day for that!"
So he chose to be accused of something that had no foundation just so he could enjoy being a victim?
I don't like the man but I wouldn't wish what these innocent celebrities have been through on my worse enemy
The anonymity laws in this country need to be changed to protect all parties and not just the accusers
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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The anonymity laws in this country need to be changed to protect all parties and not just the accusers
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I agree. As it stands, a reputation can be dragged through the mud. Although libel is actionable, just reporting that someone has been taken away for questioning is enough to get most people going. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Freddy Starr should be shot innocent or guilty ... creepy little violent unfunny bullying d*unk inept little shit.
He was too quick to become the victim. Then he blamed his state on the stress of it all. I'd blame the bottle of whisky and 70 fags a day for that!"
didnt realise you knew him personally to make such a personal attack on him, he is not my cup of tea however we still follow the principles of law which is innocent until proven guilty although some tabloids are dead against it. |
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