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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

No.

And also no.

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By *heMightySpud69Man over a year ago

Milton keynes

"No.

And also no."

This

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

"No.

And also no."
why ??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Never have, never will

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"No.

And also no. why ??"

Religion is stories that prehistoric people told to try to make sense of the world.

Science is science.

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By *ighty_tightyMan over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?"

You are wrong.

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

You are wrong."
How am I?

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By *lceeWoman over a year ago

Leeds

Climate change is well documented. Religion is based on faith. You can’t really equate the two.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anyone still believe in God ?

Every morning I look in the mirror.

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By *heMightySpud69Man over a year ago

Milton keynes

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

You are wrong.How am I?"

Because scientific consensus agrees that climate change is man made, and almost at the point of being irreversible. If you have evidence that disproves this, you should publish it, and have it peer reviewed.

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By *ighty_tightyMan over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

You are wrong.How am I?"

Seriously?

Would you care to try and prove you are even remotely right first?

#preywithgreta

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By *ick270 OP Man over a year ago

Here

Science = the priest they rule by fear

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

You are wrong.How am I?

Seriously?

Would you care to try and prove you are even remotely right first?

#preywithgreta"

While I’m nodding at your reply I also think it’s hilarious you used prey not pray

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By *ighty_tightyMan over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

You are wrong.How am I?

Seriously?

Would you care to try and prove you are even remotely right first?

#preywithgreta

While I’m nodding at your reply I also think it’s hilarious you used prey not pray

Unintentional but I'll take it

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

Who?

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By *dward_TeagueMan over a year ago

wolverhampton

He used to play for my team, if you know then you know.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anyone believe in God? Yes.

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By *r easy1981Man over a year ago

leeds

See him in the mirror every day lol

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Science = the priest they rule by fear "

So you say in your house, with your technology, on the internet, with modern medicine...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only when I’m about to spooge my baby gravy into a hot woman.

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By *heMightySpud69Man over a year ago

Milton keynes

"Science = the priest they rule by fear "

They calculate how things work, using data, evidence, and repeatable experimentation. Not quite the same. Also, scientists don't actually rule anything.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

Yes.

And no.

IMHO religion and science are not exclusive to each other. Religion deals with faith and the relationship of life to the transcendent and ineffable. Science deals with evidence and the relation of life to the physical and tangible. If you like, one is about poetry and the soul and the inner being. The other is about mathematics and the brain and the external universe. They are complementary. Neither should overrule the other, but each should be addressing it's own questions. Asking scientific questions about god (with a little "g", I certainly don't believe in there being a single God, and my own version of god is no more nor less valid than anybody else's version of their god) is foolish. And using god to decide matters of science is stupid.

Climate change - that's a matter for science. For measuring wind speeds and air temperatures, watching if the polar ice is growing or shrinking, for accumulating evidence. Then using knowledge of the physical laws of the universe, of the chemistry of the atmosphere and ocean, of the effects of temperature on bio-organisms, to work out the general rules of what is going on, to test and refine those rules against new evidence, to compare competing theories, to make predictions and then see how close those predictions are to observed outcomes. This is all science, it is a matter of facts and intelligent thinking. No faith is needed on the topic of climate change.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone still believe in god?"

Lots of people do and wouldn't it be nice if that was just acceptable and not something else that could be used to create division.

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

"He used to play for my team, if you know then you know. "

I only i know is Godzilla

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By *m389Man over a year ago

Bromley

It’s possible that we are living in a simulation and some super advanced species are just studying us in this simulation.

Would they be god then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Science = the priest they rule by fear "

At least you're amusing, even if not well informed or articulate

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By *ilffadMan over a year ago

swansea

Read something the other day, religion is equivalent to an abusive, coercive relationship.

Struck a chord with me, being through the latter

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Read something the other day, religion is equivalent to an abusive, coercive relationship.

Struck a chord with me, being through the latter"

I think that can be true, but it doesn't have to be.

I choose not to partake in religion, but that doesn't mean they're all equal.

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By *opinovMan over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

You are wrong.

How am I?"

I get the distinct impression, even if if was explained to you in the clearest and simplest terms, you'd still neither understand nor want to understand.

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By *ilffadMan over a year ago

swansea

I didn't say equal, equivalent

I'm an atheist anyway, but I saw definite parallels

"Read something the other day, religion is equivalent to an abusive, coercive relationship.

Struck a chord with me, being through the latter

I think that can be true, but it doesn't have to be.

I choose not to partake in religion, but that doesn't mean they're all equal. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Read something the other day, religion is equivalent to an abusive, coercive relationship.

Struck a chord with me, being through the latter"

Guess it depends what you expect to get out of it. If faith gives you comfort and peace of mind, where's the harm? If you use religion as an excuse to harm others, or excise bad behaviour, that's very different.

As with most things, including the outcomes of scientific research, it's people that have the power to make these positive or negative experiences. The difference is science can be proven, religion relies on faith.

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By *aliceWoman over a year ago

Birmingham

Science operates in the starting principle of being open to being wrong. All scientific advancement is predicated on peer review, correction, testing, refinement, disproving and proving theory.

Religion operates on the basis of being right because God says so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Religion has always been and always will be propaganda to keep people in line and treat adults like kids and set out the values of the person who invented it

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By *il sub princessWoman over a year ago

West Midlands

The only thing you should believe in is yourself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No.

And also no."

Beautifully put.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes I still believe in god

No I don't believe the garbled stuff about climate change in the OP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Religion has always been and always will be propaganda to keep people in line and treat adults like kids and set out the values of the person who invented it"

Religions we're originally to keep records through stories passed down to the next generation. They kept morals, ideals and behaviours as the focal point and were used to maintain the 'soul' of the tribe or culture.

It wasn't until Christianity that it really became more of a business or support for rulers and monarchy. I'm sure that some people have abused the pure original intention since time began, it's what humans do

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and ch-oke and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you’d expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would’ve been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say “this guy”, because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he’s at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn’t give a shit. Doesn’t give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn’t give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can’t see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I’m big on that. If I can see something, I don’t know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we’re not setting people on fire simply because they don’t agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There’s no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don’t have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I’m unworthy. Doesn’t tell me I’m a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn’t said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don’t pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn’t presume on our friendship. It’s not polite.

I’ve often thought people treat God rather rudely, don’t you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It’s not nice. And it’s no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you’d really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you’d have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn’t in God’s Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn’t it seem a little arrogant? It’s a Divine Plan. What’s the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?

And here’s something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren’t answered. What do you say? “Well, it’s God’s will.” “Thy Will Be Done.” Fine, but if it’s God’s will, and He’s going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn’t you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It’s all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don’t pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he’s a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn’t fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I’ve been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don’t. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit’s foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat’s testicles, it’s all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that’s a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I’m sure you’ll like that. Then there’s Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn’t care for, by the way. And finally, I’ve always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? “All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.” That’s because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

In fact, I’m gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody’s okay? All right, tell you what, I’ll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I’ve got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I’m blind. I’m blind, oh, now I’m okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Science = the priest they rule by fear

They calculate how things work, using data, evidence, and repeatable experimentation. Not quite the same. Also, scientists don't actually rule anything."

Scientists rule in this house. And in the departments we manage at work. Scientists ftw!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I never have and never will believe in God

I would never mock someone for having a belief

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Science = the priest they rule by fear

They calculate how things work, using data, evidence, and repeatable experimentation. Not quite the same. Also, scientists don't actually rule anything.

Scientists rule in this house. And in the departments we manage at work. Scientists ftw!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and ch-oke and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hate religion.

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By *ustusboth2013Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

Why don’t you say what you really think?

Now I know how people feel when they read our profile.

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By *il sub princessWoman over a year ago

West Midlands

Why don’t you say what you really think?

Now I know how people feel when they read our profile.

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By *oeofsussexMan over a year ago

Eastbourne

Religion is well documented - so is climate change.

Religion affects how you live your life - so does climate change.

Religion is about your beliefs about your relationship with the natural world around you and your interaction with other life forms - so is climate change.

Religion is about your future - so is climate change.

Religion is about you and about the community - so is climate change.

Religion is about trying to make a better world - climate change is about avoiding a worse one!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Science = the priest they rule by fear

They calculate how things work, using data, evidence, and repeatable experimentation. Not quite the same. Also, scientists don't actually rule anything.

Scientists rule in this house. And in the departments we manage at work. Scientists ftw!

We rule with facts. Facts and fear. Facts, fear, suprise, an almost fanatical devotion to Sir David Attenborough and nice red lingerie

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don't believe in God but I do believe that there is something out there lol

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Science = the priest they rule by fear

They calculate how things work, using data, evidence, and repeatable experimentation. Not quite the same. Also, scientists don't actually rule anything.

Scientists rule in this house. And in the departments we manage at work. Scientists ftw!

We rule with facts. Facts and fear. Facts, fear, suprise, an almost fanatical devotion to Sir David Attenborough and nice red lingerie

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By *ustusboth2013Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?"

Yes I believe in God. Was fortunate to watch him play. Genius, crazy fucker, and one of the greatest individual goals ever scored. If not, The!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

Yes I believe in God. Was fortunate to watch him play. Genius, crazy fucker, and one of the greatest individual goals ever scored. If not, The! "

Who robbie fowler?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

Yes I believe in God. Was fortunate to watch him play. Genius, crazy fucker, and one of the greatest individual goals ever scored. If not, The! "

I thought Pele was quite sane actually, but could be subjective. Maradona, now.......

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

Science seeks the truth. And it does not discriminate. For better or worse it finds things out. Science is humble. It knows what it knows and it knows what it doesn’t know. It bases its conclusions and beliefs on hard evidence -- evidence that is constantly updated and upgraded. It doesn’t get offended when new facts come along. It embraces the body of knowledge. It doesn’t hold on to medieval practices because they are tradition.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Science seeks the truth. And it does not discriminate. For better or worse it finds things out. Science is humble. It knows what it knows and it knows what it doesn’t know. It bases its conclusions and beliefs on hard evidence -- evidence that is constantly updated and upgraded. It doesn’t get offended when new facts come along. It embraces the body of knowledge. It doesn’t hold on to medieval practices because they are tradition."

The last sentence - some chemists still practice the medieval art of mouth pipetting for ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING REASON. Tell me how that's logical?! Why would you want to suck conc hydrochloric up a hollow glass tube?!

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By *oeofsussexMan over a year ago

Eastbourne

Wow! This is what happens when your spiritual advisor happens to be Dave Allen!

And by the way, Joe Pesci’s Romsn Catholic!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Are you kink shaming?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Are you kink shaming?

Yes, along with the micro sorts who think they can ID bugs by sticking their noses in and sniffing

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

"Wow! This is what happens when your spiritual advisor happens to be Dave Allen!

And by the way, Joe Pesci’s Romsn Catholic!

George Carlin, actually.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is it wrong that I'm gonna use this like sheep counting tonight.

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By *actilemale4uMan over a year ago

London

So many religions each with their own god its difficult to decide which is the real one

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By *ustusboth2013Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

Yes I believe in God. Was fortunate to watch him play. Genius, crazy fucker, and one of the greatest individual goals ever scored. If not, The!

I thought Pele was quite sane actually, but could be subjective. Maradona, now......."

Got to love a post that takes the topic off piste.

Pele is one of the most sensible Brazilians around. All my Brazilian friends have been a little crazy. He lets the side down in craziness.

But yes Maradona. After all, he also claims it was the hand of God. It was definitely at the end of his wrist. So that’s God confirmed.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

Home

Yes i believe in God abd that is my faith but I wouldn't judge a person on the religious beliefs, everyone to their own.

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

Chemists = people

Science = not people

People = stupid

We can't blame science for the questionable actions of people, regardless of their role.

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By *ustusboth2013Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

"Wow! This is what happens when your spiritual advisor happens to be Dave Allen!

And by the way, Joe Pesci’s Romsn Catholic!

George Carlin, actually."

Lol I wasn’t going to burst his bubble. I remember this before but enjoyed it so much, I had to read it again.

I do disagree with some things. Filth is good right?

And there’s so many great songs about the sun.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Chemists = people

Science = not people

People = stupid

We can't blame science for the questionable actions of people, regardless of their role. "

Was just trying to lighten the mood. I'll release helium next time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See him in the mirror every day lol "

Blows a raspberry, I got there first mate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Never needed to!!!

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By *ools1964Man over a year ago

Swadlincote

No climate change is not any form of religion, the word religion means the belief in an omnipotent supernatural being, climate change is not an omnipotent supernatural being, & no I I don't believe in any form of god, I'm an atheist & somewhat verbose with it, gods are nothing more than early man's first & worst attempt to explain what they didn't understand & nothing more.

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By *ustmethistimeCouple over a year ago

East Midlands

""Anyone still believe in god?"

Lots of people do and wouldn't it be nice if that was just acceptable and not something else that could be used to create division."

Agree totally.

Wouldn't the world be a better place if we accepted this??

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By *oubleswing2019Man over a year ago

Colchester

One the one hand, it's good that certain people need to be told "thou shalt not kill", "though shalt not steal", etc etc.

But on the other hand, it's worrying that certain people need to be told this via a mystical 3rd party sky wizard/s in the sky.

I suppose I should be thankful that they do listen and hopefully follow the tenets of their faith, otherwise I worry some would be running amok and out of control on the streets with no concept of right or wrong.

So yeah, I don't believe in God, but I am jolly glad some do if it prevents them slaughtering my family and loved ones. Thank you religion for your care in the community. (The peaceful religions at least)

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By *rKeefyMan over a year ago

Ashton

Went to sunday school once because I had no one to play with on Sundays since my friends were there. My mum picked me up and asked me what I did.

"Drew pictures of a dead man".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was a skeptic for much of my life but I've had weird experiences. 2 supernatural experiences in my life where I couldn't just explain it away as being a trick of the brain.

I remember the first one happened when I was quite young. my cat, which was sleeping on my desk chair at the time was woken up by the occurence (disembodied noises) and it was staring at the exact place in the room that I was looking. It's how I know it wasn't just like a hallucination or whatever.

So I defo believe there is more than what we can observe and explain with science, I just couldn't tell you what.

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By *echnosonic_BrummieMan over a year ago

Willenhall

I'm a dyslexic, agnostic insomniac.

I often lie awake at night wondering if there really is a dog.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was a skeptic for much of my life but I've had weird experiences. 2 supernatural experiences in my life where I couldn't just explain it away as being a trick of the brain.

So I defo believe there is more than what we can observe and explain with science, I just couldn't tell you what."

So you and your cat heard a noise in the house that sounded like it came from the same spot, not really unusual I have to say , me and the wife hear weird noises all the time from the house, mostly creeks or pipes or faint shouts from outside perhaps , nothing new there . What was the second experience you had ?

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By *nigmatic x DivinityCouple over a year ago

Up town top ranking

I don't belong in God, I'm a spiritualist.

However I respect everyone's own choices on what they choose to believe it. I find it beautiful.

I don't judge others and I expect the same in return.

Most of all Happy believing in yourselves for your own choices xxx

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"I don't belong in God, I'm a spiritualist.

However I respect everyone's own choices on what they choose to believe it. I find it beautiful.

I don't judge others and I expect the same in return.

Most of all Happy believing in yourselves for your own choices xxx"

This

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By *rAitchMan over a year ago

Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe

Good God, no!

I don't believe in God!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If there is a god, he's definitely male.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?"

Complete non-sequitur. Fail.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

God is for fools and the naive.

Also, dinosaurs.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman over a year ago

ashford

Yes allways have believed can't see that changing x

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"I don't belong in God, I'm a spiritualist.

However I respect everyone's own choices on what they choose to believe it. I find it beautiful.

I don't judge others and I expect the same in return.

Most of all Happy believing in yourselves for your own choices xxx"

Absolutely agree.

The only time I have beef with people who have faith is when they try to force people to listen to their rambling or come knocking on our door like Jehovah's witnesses.

I will then explain in full why God doesn't exist.

As for the rest of the OPs points complete and utter twaddle I think the OP needs to educate himself in regards the definition of following a religion and the definition of religion itself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nope

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't belong in God, I'm a spiritualist.

However I respect everyone's own choices on what they choose to believe it. I find it beautiful.

I don't judge others and I expect the same in return.

Most of all Happy believing in yourselves for your own choices xxx"

Best thing I've read on here in a long time. We can all be a little happier if we act more like this

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan over a year ago

Aylesbury

I believe in dog. They are far superior to people

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

Met a few ladies who do calling his name oooo god lol.

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By *arleyfatboy2019Couple over a year ago

Devon

Yes. I believe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes. I believe."

Your thinking of Santa in Miracle on 34th street

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By *merald Eyes XWoman over a year ago

Can you find me….

Yes

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

Religion is a man made social control mechanism. It was originally designed to guide, control and self police peoples' behaviour to ensure societal norms were followed in the hope that peace and harmony in the community would result.

In order to enact this control an omnipotent, omniscient, being was required who could inflict pain and suffering or provide good fortune in equal measure. This being was termed a "God" or "gods".

Where the true brilliance of the religious contruct lay was in the way the natural happenstances of life were proposed as "Acts of God". Both good and bad in equal measure were used to "prove" the existence and power of the deity. Knowing no science could prove, or disprove, the existance of a god the concept of "faith" was used to hold people within the mechanism.

Humanity was vulnerable to this "control through faith" because of evolution. Going back many thousands years succesive generations of children who did not have faith in the good advice of their parents died out because they did not avoid those things that could harm or kill them. It is no coincidence many religions use some form of "father" when refering to God.

When we move from child to adult that parental guidance substantially dissappears yet by then we are programmed to want guidance. It is here faith in some omnipotent being appeals to adult humans.

So the short answer to the question is, whether or not a God or gods exist, does not depend on any religion recognising them. Currently there is no incontrovertible proof of the existence of a god or gods so personally, I do not believe, but respect the rights of others to believe what they want.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was a skeptic for much of my life but I've had weird experiences. 2 supernatural experiences in my life where I couldn't just explain it away as being a trick of the brain.

So I defo believe there is more than what we can observe and explain with science, I just couldn't tell you what."

It's a good job that the plural of anecdote isn't data. You heard something that you can't explain - great. That doesn't mean that there wasn't a mundane explanation, just that you couldn't think of one. You're a bad skeptic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What you believe is irrelevant as far as the truth is concerned.

It makes a difference subjectively.

The question is whether it is better for you to believe what is true.

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By *oinerbillMan over a year ago

warrington

Yes i beleive in god, my faith is very important to me - and yes i know people like me shouldnt be on these sites

Its sad that people feel the need to make fun of other peoples faith

just be nice to each other

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, no and triple no.

Money is the route of all evil so it says. How come churches and certain religions ask for money then?

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By *tstillworksMan over a year ago

Darlington

"Don't believe in God but I do believe that there is something out there lol"

There is Funlad

There’s something out there in the trees waiting for us

And it ain’t no man

We’re all gonna die

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Yes i beleive in god, my faith is very important to me - and yes i know people like me shouldnt be on these sites

Its sad that people feel the need to make fun of other peoples faith

just be nice to each other "

You believe what you want; that is your right. People should not make fun of you; but those that seek evidence before believing in anything will struggle to understand what you experience.

I don't believe Fab has any more atheists than any other section of society. It is just people of faith tend not to comment in the forum where trolling is so prevalent.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not sure if people still go with religion as such...but fair play if they do.

I do believe in a universal spirit which we have within, that connects all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes i beleive in god, my faith is very important to me - and yes i know people like me shouldnt be on these sites

Its sad that people feel the need to make fun of other peoples faith

just be nice to each other

You believe what you want; that is your right. People should not make fun of you; but those that seek evidence before believing in anything will struggle to understand what you experience.

I don't believe Fab has any more atheists than any other section of society. It is just people of faith tend not to comment in the forum where trolling is so prevalent.

I think it would be nice if those who are religious could say: 'I believe, and I find comfort in that. But I understand why you don't, and I hope you find comfort in your belief in science.'

And if we who are more cynical could say: 'I only believe what can be evidenced or proven and that gives me comfort. But I understand why you believe and hope you find comfort in your faith.'

We don't all have to agree, but we can all agree not to mock or disparage people with other opinions.

Unless they're dicks, in which case, crack on

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By *atfuckerbristolMan over a year ago

Wells

“Science - the priest they rule in fear”

Has someone been listening to too many early 1970s Rush albums?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

God is the universe god is you can point at the stars and travel infinity in that direction god is the wind god is everyone of us

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't believe in God, never have never will x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't believe in God, never have never will x "
maybe not that chap who turned water into wine but you are part of the universe believe or not

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't believe in God, never have never will x maybe not that chap who turned water into wine but you are part of the universe believe or not "

Maybe but I didn't come from a so called God. I came from my mother and father x

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By *ud and BryanCouple over a year ago

Boston, Lincolnshire

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple over a year ago

Coventry

Personally I don't see a world that a god either controls or that our actions influence. And as far as I can tell there is no god but as implausible as it is I don't know for sure. The origins of the universe and the statistical chance of its existence are likewise a complete mystery. All I do know is to me the existence of a god or not is of complete indifference to me. I can only deal in accordance to my understanding of the physical world and the here and now. I will continue to live my life the best I can and practice humanist principles the best I can. For that is what is real and tangible in this world and thus by far the logical position to place my efforts. If by the very unlikely chance I'm wrong about god I'll deal with that in the next life.

Mr Misfit

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By *ud and BryanCouple over a year ago

Boston, Lincolnshire

Dave is Christian

Caroline is more Pagan

NEITHER of us try to change other people's views/religions.

We both accept others have their own beliefs.

What does annoy us though are those who constantly slate Christianity, blaming religion for all the worlds ills while claiming their religion does no harm.

Why don't they just live & let live?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don’t

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah religion was power in the old days you’d be burnt at the stake for being a pagan in the 1600s

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By *oppolocosTV/TS over a year ago

inverurie

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?"

Climate change is science. Religion is utter nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We are all going back to the ether soon oblivion or not

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

Climate change is science. Religion is utter nonsense. "
no it’s controll based on fear

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By *orkcoastguyMan over a year ago

Bridlington.

Agnostic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

God or gods are entirely man-made constructs used for millennia to try explain the unexplainable. Religions are also man-made constructs of control by use of a God or gods. Science is not a religion or a god; it is nothing more or less than the gathering of knowledge and evidence to explain the Universe as far as possible.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah religion was power in the old days you’d be burnt at the stake for being a pagan in the 1600s "

I would disagree with this. Religion was not created to obtain power. It’s the corrupt that use religion to gain power not the religion itself

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By *9alMan over a year ago

Bridgend

I dont really believe in God but was brought up as a Christian & try to live by Christian values, but I might covert a Nabors wife occasionally

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By *LACK PLEASUREMan over a year ago

Hackney

"Yeah religion was power in the old days you’d be burnt at the stake for being a pagan in the 1600s

I would disagree with this. Religion was not created to obtain power. It’s the corrupt that use religion to gain power not the religion itself "

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By *LACK PLEASUREMan over a year ago

Hackney

"Yeah religion was power in the old days you’d be burnt at the stake for being a pagan in the 1600s

I would disagree with this. Religion was not created to obtain power. It’s the corrupt that use religion to gain power not the religion itself "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I never have and never will believe in God

I would never mock someone for having a belief "

Pretty much this..

Would add that whilst respecting others belief systems I stand by my right to challenge any of the bollocks some try to spout under the pretence of how they perceive their chosen beliefs give them the requirements to do..

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By *ud and BryanCouple over a year ago

Boston, Lincolnshire

"Religion was not created to obtain power. It’s the corrupt that use religion to gain power not the religion itself "

Absolutely.

Those who are power crazed will use any means to obtain/ maintain their grip on power - be that religion, politics, brute strength or some other means.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I never have and never will believe in God

I would never mock someone for having a belief

Pretty much this..

Do you not believe that faith has a part to play in life? Even if that faith is in your own abilities?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Amazingly a lot of people believe in God at really desperate times, even praying to him/her/it

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By *lectrumMan over a year ago

south shields

I’ve met him along with Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit so yeah I do

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By *aliceWoman over a year ago

Birmingham

"Amazingly a lot of people believe in God at really desperate times, even praying to him/her/it"

Effectively Pascal's Wager!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Amazingly a lot of people believe in God at really desperate times, even praying to him/her/it

Effectively Pascal's Wager!"

Yes, exactly. A false dilemma if ever there was one.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

No. And human caused global heating is a scientifically evidenced phenomena, thus completely different. We can take steps to limit the severe levels of damage to life globally, or bury our heads in the sand, which would be callous.

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By *ustBoWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I'm more agonistic. I don't however feel the need to belittle what others believe .I have also seen how much people's faith has helped them in some of the most difficult times of their lives and I think that can only be a good thing .

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I'm more agonistic. I don't however feel the need to belittle what others believe .I have also seen how much people's faith has helped them in some of the most difficult times of their lives and I think that can only be a good thing ."

My feelings exactly.

My mother died in March, her and my father had been together 70 years. The only thing keeping my dad going is his unswerving belief in God and that he'll see mum again. I'd never tell him he's wrong

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By *aiseiMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Only when I’m about to spooge my baby gravy into a hot woman. "

It’s taking a lot of effort to not burst out laughing in the office at that!

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By *he love catsCouple over a year ago

South Wales

I find it easier to believe that there's something after life than nothing at all. When you die its like a switch going off and that's it nothing more?

Just a crazy thought to get your head around really.

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By *itzi999Woman over a year ago

Slough

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By *itzi999Woman over a year ago

Slough

"I believe in G_d but do not believe in climate change nor the awful teen Greta "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I believe in G_d but do not believe in climate change nor the awful teen Greta "

How can you not believe in an actual living person that doesn't make sense.

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By *ememberTheNameMan over a year ago

barnsley

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?"

It all started with a big BANG

And should carry on with more BIG BANGS

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I believe in G_d but do not believe in climate change nor the awful teen Greta "

So belief with out evidence/blind faith over reality and scientific evidence. Got it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I stopped believing in the idea of god years ago.

Went to church (Catholic and Christian), Mosques, Hindu temples and Buddhist ones.

In the end, I just believe that you need to have faith. It doesn't need to be in god. But in something of a higher power.

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By *partharmonyCouple over a year ago

Ruislip

Are you asking us about God or our views on climate change?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

God science all the same to me some person wrote a book people will choose whichever fits to believe most either way its all a thing you learned from someone else

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By *ustmethistimeCouple over a year ago

East Midlands

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?

It all started with a big BANG

And should carry on with more BIG BANGS

You mean the Big Bang Theory?

Important word there being 'Theory'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah religion was power in the old days you’d be burnt at the stake for being a pagan in the 1600s

I would disagree with this. Religion was not created to obtain power. It’s the corrupt that use religion to gain power not the religion itself "
Yes I should’ve been more specific Christianity

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No. And human caused global heating is a scientifically evidenced phenomena, thus completely different. We can take steps to limit the severe levels of damage to life globally, or bury our heads in the sand, which would be callous. "
We live in a giant rock with lava in the middle trust me it’s been a lot hotter

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Anyone still believe in god?"

Lots of people do and wouldn't it be nice if that was just acceptable and not something else that could be used to create division."

Totally agree!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah religion was power in the old days you’d be burnt at the stake for being a pagan in the 1600s

I would disagree with this. Religion was not created to obtain power. It’s the corrupt that use religion to gain power not the religion itself Yes I should’ve been more specific Christianity"

If you take something like the witch finders which was based on Christianity they were paid by wealthy people to find women guilty of witchcraft. Or the holy wars which was persecution of other religions but the truth is it just made people more wealthy or the Templar Knights.

Religion didn’t cause this, it was people

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By *piphoneMan over a year ago

across the universe

Absolutely yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Here's my thoughts on the bible not so much just god

In years gone by the leaders/kings/Queens were seeing the people start to question what they were being told and starting to revolt.

The powers at be got someone or some people to write a story with the devil/hell being what would happen to them if they defied their orders scaring them into doing as they were told.

The jesus part does confuse it all. That part was written many years after the first part.

Since then it's been rewritten so many times. I know the bible has just been rewritten by the Mormons. What differences there are. I don't know or wish to. Can't stand God botherers.

Had the Johos turn up whilst I was under my car once. Asked if I would be interested in some magazines. I said unless wank mags then no. Never came back

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By *ill1966Man over a year ago

Swindon

So isn’t the bible the basic documentation of worshiping and having faith in god?

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By *entlemanrogueMan over a year ago

Motherwell

"No.

And also no. why ??

Religion is stories that prehistoric people told to try to make sense of the world.

Science is science."

sometimes science is as much Bs as any religion

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By *entlemanrogueMan over a year ago

Motherwell

"So isn’t the bible the basic documentation of worshiping and having faith in god?"

One documentation of worshipping one version of a God

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Everything in life within the human species is subjective

Some have a true belief in a god

Some are brought up within religious communities and are institutionalised into it

Some aren’t sure

Some don’t believe but darent speak it just in case

All religions rely on income some don’t pressure, some pass a plate, some demand a 10% of income to be full members

Let’s face it people believe in afterlife, ghosts, mangos powers of stones

Many people are vulnerable and are seduced

My view is that most religions have an ethos of treating one another with kindness and respect and those are the ethics which I adhere to

Climate change isn’t a religion

So I respect everyone having their own views even those crackpot religions if they are better people for it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It was the sound of someone coming up the stairs to my room, the wooden stairs creaked in ascending order stopping at my open door. Lights were fully on but obviously nothing was there.

The second experience is very personal to do with a relative who passed away, I don't really like sharing the story.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It absolutely is an anecdote and not data but fortunately, this is a forum and not a scientific journal so I don't feel out of place sharing it. If I apply occams razor to the sequence of events, then sure I can do all manner of mental acrobatics to try and explain it away but I'll always deep down have that feeling of something being not quite right. Bad skeptic on that perhaps but honest to my gut instinct.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I never have and never will believe in God

I would never mock someone for having a belief

Pretty much this..

Do you not believe that faith has a part to play in life? Even if that faith is in your own abilities? "

That people have faith in a deity etc, unshakeable faith even to their own detriment and death has always intrigued me if I'm honest ..

I think there's a massive difference between faith in one's own abilities and that of the concept of religion..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good god no. .. wait what?

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By *oteyetieMan over a year ago

Galashiels

My cock is called “Jesus” well that’s what women say when they see it!!

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By *oppolocosTV/TS over a year ago

inverurie

"I believe in G_d but do not believe in climate change nor the awful teen Greta "

So you believe in something for which there is no evidence for, but you don't accept something that there is overwhelming scientific evidence for????

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By *ustusboth2013Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

"One the one hand, it's good that certain people need to be told "thou shalt not kill", "though shalt not steal", etc etc.

But on the other hand, it's worrying that certain people need to be told this via a mystical 3rd party sky wizard/s in the sky.

Contrary, there is Matthew 5:38-42 and Leviticus 24:17-21

"I suppose I should be thankful that they do listen and hopefully follow the tenets of their faith, otherwise I worry some would be running amok and out of control on the streets with no concept of right or wrong. "

I think I want to move to Colchester.

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By *ustusboth2013Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

In context, I believe there is a swinging God because it’s been very kind to us over the years.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You sit there and you thump your Bible, and you say your prayers, and it didn’t get you anywhere. Talk about your psalms, talk about John 3:16…

Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass!

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By *omer47Man over a year ago

leigh

Never have done.

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By *ustusboth2013Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

Got to love a bit of John 3:16. Reminds me of the Mexico 86 World Cup.

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By *irtydevil666Man over a year ago

bristol

No....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes call me a hypocrite but I do believe in god although I don’t go to church now but used to with my son he also attended a church school & one day hope to be reunited with my grandparents

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

I'm sure there's going to start believing when there drawing there last. Nothing like edgings your bets.

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

I'm sure there's going to be plenty who start believing when there drawing there last. Nothing like edgings your bets.

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By *yron69Man over a year ago

Fareham

Even those who believe think only their version will save their kind. It’s ridiculous.

You’ll only be saved if your Jehovah’s Witness. Muslim, Methodist or Born Again…. God is a product of a very human imagination.

It’s an ego that promises salvation as long as you worship it. Total cock.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Regretfully, I did for many years...the whole shebang...then I saw the light and now have NO time for religion.

Jeez, the harm it has caused... sigh

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By *leasure4leisureMan over a year ago

south

"Regretfully, I did for many years...the whole shebang...then I saw the light and now have NO time for religion.

Jeez, the harm it has caused... sigh "

Some one told me recently it to believe and man in a silly hat with an imagery friend !

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

Possiblities but I definitely believe in ghosts

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By *ermbiMan over a year ago

Ballyshannon

Amazing how your focus on religion and God equates to Christianity. How narrow of u. No mention of Islam but them I guess you fear what may be said back to you.

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

Amazing how your focus on religion and God equates to Christianity. How narrow of u. No mention of Islam but them I guess you fear what may be said back to you. "

I'll be sure to tell George Carlin that when I meet him in heaven...oh

Feel free to replace any Christianity references with those from the countless other religions, including Islam if you so wish, that have come and gone over the many many years since it was conjoured up from somebody's imagination.

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman over a year ago

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman over a year ago

Nope.

I was asked in intensive care if I wanted to have the last rites for my husband.

No thanks

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Yeah religion was power in the old days you’d be burnt at the stake for being a pagan in the 1600s

I would disagree with this. Religion was not created to obtain power. It’s the corrupt that use religion to gain power not the religion itself "

Interesting point of view. That is the same as the gun lobby's statement "Guns don't kill people. It's the people holding the gun who kills"

No self respecting megalomaniac, upon seeing the extent to which religion controls people, would not want to be in charge of the religion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah religion was power in the old days you’d be burnt at the stake for being a pagan in the 1600s

I would disagree with this. Religion was not created to obtain power. It’s the corrupt that use religion to gain power not the religion itself

Interesting point of view. That is the same as the gun lobby's statement "Guns don't kill people. It's the people holding the gun who kills"

No self respecting megalomaniac, upon seeing the extent to which religion controls people, would not want to be in charge of the religion. "

What, like, say, Stalin?

Banned religious practices, and made the state effectively the religion?

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By *aughty but nice...Man over a year ago

Staffs

Nope

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think climate change is the new religion put feer In you and ask for money the church got away with it for years ?"

God and church are not the same thing. Human society and individuals do have a need to believe in something. A higher power or purpose, whatever that is for each individual will differ.

Religion comes in when dogma is attached to belief or faith. That is where the potential for damage comes in.

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