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If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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I think if people took more notice of what they're eating would not only educate them but also provide a healthy lifestyle all the victims are wildly available it's just knowing/understanding |
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"The government want to add this to food to 'level up the health of the nation' I just wish these people would leave my food alone. Less additives not more. "
*Almost* every prescription issued in the UK to the older generation (75s and above) will include a Calcium and Vit D supplement.
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"I think if people took more notice of what they're eating would not only educate them but also provide a healthy lifestyle all the victims are wildly available it's just knowing/understanding "
Sometimes it isn’t due to diet. I’m on gastro-reflux medication and it’s notorious for stopping your stomach from properly absorbing what it needs. It led to a B12 deficiency in myself.
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"I think if people took more notice of what they're eating would not only educate them but also provide a healthy lifestyle all the victims are wildly available it's just knowing/understanding
Sometimes it isn’t due to diet. I’m on gastro-reflux medication and it’s notorious for stopping your stomach from properly absorbing what it needs. It led to a B12 deficiency in myself.
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Yeah, despite best efforts I struggle with keeping some levels high enough. Sometimes our bodies conspire against us.
In the case of mass deficiency due to forces largely outside our control, fortification pays back dividends in health and can even pay back in productivity (healthier people tend to be able to work more) |
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"I think if people took more notice of what they're eating would not only educate them but also provide a healthy lifestyle all the victims are wildly available it's just knowing/understanding "
Modern forced farming practices have actually reduced available nutrients in a lot of foods though. |
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots."
That's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of that is the result of modern intensive farming?
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots."
That's veganism for you ..
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots.
That's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of that is the result of modern intensive farming?
Mr"
In this case it's the result of the chemical composition of soil in Australia  |
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over a year ago
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"Emmm I thought Vitamin D went in the ass emmm 
Oooo god people don’t get the patch forks out it’s a joke
You can take it orally too"
Yip but that’s no fun for me that’s just work  |
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots.
That's veganism for you ..
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If they were vegan you might have a point, Tom. Alas, not. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I think if people took more notice of what they're eating would not only educate them but also provide a healthy lifestyle all the victims are wildly available it's just knowing/understanding
Sometimes it isn’t due to diet. I’m on gastro-reflux medication and it’s notorious for stopping your stomach from properly absorbing what it needs. It led to a B12 deficiency in myself.
Yeah, despite best efforts I struggle with keeping some levels high enough. Sometimes our bodies conspire against us.
In the case of mass deficiency due to forces largely outside our control, fortification pays back dividends in health and can even pay back in productivity (healthier people tend to be able to work more)"
Aah! You have nailed it. The buggers want us to work longer and harder. There isLways a catch ... |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"I think if people took more notice of what they're eating would not only educate them but also provide a healthy lifestyle all the victims are wildly available it's just knowing/understanding
Sometimes it isn’t due to diet. I’m on gastro-reflux medication and it’s notorious for stopping your stomach from properly absorbing what it needs. It led to a B12 deficiency in myself.
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I wasn't talking about diet but knowing.but knowledge is the key rather than I like to eat and not understanding the benefits the basics then spread out so a person is able to enjoy more knowing that other little things count if not more |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As a Black person I read that we’re more likely to be vitamin D deficient but I understand that loads of people generally are. I don’t know that adding this is a bad thing? As the consequences of deficiency can be pretty bad right? |
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"I think if people took more notice of what they're eating would not only educate them but also provide a healthy lifestyle all the victims are wildly available it's just knowing/understanding
Sometimes it isn’t due to diet. I’m on gastro-reflux medication and it’s notorious for stopping your stomach from properly absorbing what it needs. It led to a B12 deficiency in myself.
Yeah, despite best efforts I struggle with keeping some levels high enough. Sometimes our bodies conspire against us.
In the case of mass deficiency due to forces largely outside our control, fortification pays back dividends in health and can even pay back in productivity (healthier people tend to be able to work more)
Aah! You have nailed it. The buggers want us to work longer and harder. There isLways a catch ..."
Oh no. Being healthier without having to change anything. When will this torment ever end  |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"I think if people took more notice of what they're eating would not only educate them but also provide a healthy lifestyle all the victims are wildly available it's just knowing/understanding
Modern forced farming practices have actually reduced available nutrients in a lot of foods though. "
Their still is availablity it's knowing in what.some people just stick with the normal range but how much would that provide if anything given amount of food available how much would their be that people eat but have no idea about what they've eating their is a lot of natural resources which some don't know it's surprising how much a person can learn I once took a book from the library about food/ nutrition and health this told me everything about each individual foods the benefits the victims they're providing and did open my eyes.all these can be searched online and printed off |
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots.
That's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of that is the result of modern intensive farming?
Mr"
Vitamin D isn't generally mainly obtained from diet. It's obtained from exposure to sunlight, between about April and September in the UK. It's all about changes in lifestyle. We no longer work the land or out at sea as "default" and most of us spend the majority of our time indoors. We are (rightly) concerned about skin cancer, so we apply sun blocking creams, which reduce our synthesis of Vitamin D, even if we DO go outside.
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin and some people don't eat enough fat for what is synthesised to be used. It is found in animal sources of food, mainly eggs, liver, oily fish etc. There are pretty much no plant based sources of Vitamin D (there's some in mushrooms but they're not plants and levels are comparatively low). So, increasing vegetarian and vegan dietary trends might also contribute to deficiency. |
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Op - heaven forbid that mass produced food should be healthier. Most fortification is done to make processed foods have *some* nutritional value. Something to ponder as you munch down your wheaty-sugar bombs.  |
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots.
That's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of that is the result of modern intensive farming?
Mr
Vitamin D isn't generally mainly obtained from diet. It's obtained from exposure to sunlight, between about April and September in the UK. It's all about changes in lifestyle. We no longer work the land or out at sea as "default" and most of us spend the majority of our time indoors. We are (rightly) concerned about skin cancer, so we apply sun blocking creams, which reduce our synthesis of Vitamin D, even if we DO go outside.
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin and some people don't eat enough fat for what is synthesised to be used. It is found in animal sources of food, mainly eggs, liver, oily fish etc. There are pretty much no plant based sources of Vitamin D (there's some in mushrooms but they're not plants and levels are comparatively low). So, increasing vegetarian and vegan dietary trends might also contribute to deficiency."
So does sun sense. Avoiding skin cancer also means reducing natural exposure to vitamin D |
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots.
That's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of that is the result of modern intensive farming?
Mr
Vitamin D isn't generally mainly obtained from diet. It's obtained from exposure to sunlight, between about April and September in the UK. It's all about changes in lifestyle. We no longer work the land or out at sea as "default" and most of us spend the majority of our time indoors. We are (rightly) concerned about skin cancer, so we apply sun blocking creams, which reduce our synthesis of Vitamin D, even if we DO go outside.
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin and some people don't eat enough fat for what is synthesised to be used. It is found in animal sources of food, mainly eggs, liver, oily fish etc. There are pretty much no plant based sources of Vitamin D (there's some in mushrooms but they're not plants and levels are comparatively low). So, increasing vegetarian and vegan dietary trends might also contribute to deficiency."
^ this and if I can manage to become deficient, with all my genetic favouring not too, anyone can.
With costs of living escalating, some won't be able to afford extra supplements. This is how we can help those who need it easily. |
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"The government want to add this to food to 'level up the health of the nation' I just wish these people would leave my food alone. Less additives not more. "
The USA have been adding this to milk for decades. |
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Prevention is better than cure. With very high levels of deficiency, it makes sense to supplement. We do it with cereals and other countries do it with other foods, including milk. It's very low cost and shouldn't be something that we hesitate about |
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"The government want to add this to food to 'level up the health of the nation' I just wish these people would leave my food alone. Less additives not more. "
Welcome to Scotland! Vitamin D, yes please. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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A lot of illnesses are caused by lacking sources or not eating enough to help repair most things eaten have more than just a purpose to fill the appetite so it's able to get filtered throughout the body and do what it needs to and understand the intake as too much can also make a person unwell spinach is a good source of vitamin D |
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"A lot of illnesses are caused by lacking sources or not eating enough to help repair most things eaten have more than just a purpose to fill the appetite so it's able to get filtered throughout the body and do what it needs to and understand the intake as too much can also make a person unwell spinach is a good source of vitamin D "
Spinach does not contain vitamin D. Plants do not require or produce vitamin D. Spinach contains calcium. One of the roles of vitamin D is in regulating blood calcium levels and so there is an association between vitamin D and calcium. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"The government want to add this to food to 'level up the health of the nation' I just wish these people would leave my food alone. Less additives not more. "
Can't you just scrape it off the top?
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"The government want to add this to food to 'level up the health of the nation' I just wish these people would leave my food alone. Less additives not more. "
You maybe want to ask those who have a Vit D deficiency - like me. It causes all sorts including fatigue, terrible fatigue, I need to take 800iu daily to keep my levels up. Last January I was diagnosed with a vit d level of just 16IU, this is way too low to be able to function properly. So let them add vit d to foods, it’s not an additive nor a chemical, it’s a natural supplement that we get from the sun, except for those north of Birmingham don’t get as much of that yellow thing as those in the south do.
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots.
That's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of that is the result of modern intensive farming?
Mr
Vitamin D isn't generally mainly obtained from diet. It's obtained from exposure to sunlight, between about April and September in the UK. It's all about changes in lifestyle. We no longer work the land or out at sea as "default" and most of us spend the majority of our time indoors. We are (rightly) concerned about skin cancer, so we apply sun blocking creams, which reduce our synthesis of Vitamin D, even if we DO go outside.
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin and some people don't eat enough fat for what is synthesised to be used. It is found in animal sources of food, mainly eggs, liver, oily fish etc. There are pretty much no plant based sources of Vitamin D (there's some in mushrooms but they're not plants and levels comparatively low). So, increasing vegetarian and vegan dietary trends might also contribute to deficiency."
I think I may have misread Inaswingdress' post as she only said 'developed a deficiency' and I didn't take this as being specifically Vit D - despite that being the topic of the thread, my bad.
Not sure now as I don't understand the link between Australian soil and Vitamin D?
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"A lot of illnesses are caused by lacking sources or not eating enough to help repair most things eaten have more than just a purpose to fill the appetite so it's able to get filtered throughout the body and do what it needs to and understand the intake as too much can also make a person unwell spinach is a good source of vitamin D
Spinach does not contain vitamin D. Plants do not require or produce vitamin D. Spinach contains calcium. One of the roles of vitamin D is in regulating blood calcium levels and so there is an association between vitamin D and calcium. "
That’s not entirely true, the only time you should take calcium & vit d together is if you have a condition that affects the bones, like osteoporosis. If your bones & calcium is at a good level then there is no reason to take both together |
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"I purposefully look for fortified foods as i try to avoid being in the sun with no sunscreen. Its a shame its not added to water, same as fluoride "
The issue with it added to water is it probably runs the risk of people getting vitamin D toxicity causing hypercalcemia, I guess… |
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"A lot of illnesses are caused by lacking sources or not eating enough to help repair most things eaten have more than just a purpose to fill the appetite so it's able to get filtered throughout the body and do what it needs to and understand the intake as too much can also make a person unwell spinach is a good source of vitamin D
Spinach does not contain vitamin D. Plants do not require or produce vitamin D. Spinach contains calcium. One of the roles of vitamin D is in regulating blood calcium levels and so there is an association between vitamin D and calcium.
That’s not entirely true, the only time you should take calcium & vit d together is if you have a condition that affects the bones, like osteoporosis. If your bones & calcium is at a good level then there is no reason to take both together "
Did I say both should be taken together? No. I stated (correctly) that one of the roles of vitamin D is to regulate calcium. It also is involved in regulating phosphate. I stated that there is an association between vitamin D and calcium, which is also correct. I did not mention taking either as a supplement in this comment, actually. |
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"Redheads don't need it. It's onr of our superpowers, we make our own."
We do, I've been deficient in the past because I avoid the sun at midday and a couple of hours either side.
Most people can make it just the lighter your skin the better you are at it. |
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"If you don't like it, exercise personal responsibility and stop eating processed food.
I have a relative who inadvertently developed a deficiency by removing *all* processed food from their diet. They're not adding folate, vitamin D, whatever, to carrots.
That's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of that is the result of modern intensive farming?
Mr
Vitamin D isn't generally mainly obtained from diet. It's obtained from exposure to sunlight, between about April and September in the UK. It's all about changes in lifestyle. We no longer work the land or out at sea as "default" and most of us spend the majority of our time indoors. We are (rightly) concerned about skin cancer, so we apply sun blocking creams, which reduce our synthesis of Vitamin D, even if we DO go outside.
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin and some people don't eat enough fat for what is synthesised to be used. It is found in animal sources of food, mainly eggs, liver, oily fish etc. There are pretty much no plant based sources of Vitamin D (there's some in mushrooms but they're not plants and levels comparatively low). So, increasing vegetarian and vegan dietary trends might also contribute to deficiency.
I think I may have misread Inaswingdress' post as she only said 'developed a deficiency' and I didn't take this as being specifically Vit D - despite that being the topic of the thread, my bad.
Not sure now as I don't understand the link between Australian soil and Vitamin D?
Mr"
Yes, sorry, it wasn't a vitamin D deficiency. It was to iodine, which is added to Australian processed food. Not a problem here.
Food fortification happens for a good reason usually |
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