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"Crazed scientists claim to be only 9 steps away from brining the Tasmanian wolf back from extincion. The last known wolf died in a zoo in 1932.
This will not end well..
What are the 9 steps?
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1. Have an idea to bring back the Tasmanian Wolf.
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9. Ta-da! |
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"Crazed scientists claim to be only 9 steps away from brining the Tasmanian wolf back from extincion. The last known wolf died in a zoo in 1932.
This will not end well..
What are the 9 steps?
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1 find a female wolf alive
2 find a male wolf alive
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back.."
That was its nickname it was not half wolf half tiger. 
Although that would be fucking awesome. |
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back.."
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed. |
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"Having wolves back in their natural habitat can encourage other wildlife and support eco systems...
So not necessarily something to fear.
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Actually its their kills that can encourage other wildlife, not the wolves themselves |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed."
It's the appearance that makes people call it that. It's like a wolf but stripey. I think it's half marsupial, half wolf and half tiger .... |
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again.."
Frankenstein was the doctor.
Not the monster.
Also, didn’t exist. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again..
I thought the doctor named the monster in his own image..
Like father like son...
Frankenstein was the doctor.
Not the monster.
Also, didn’t exist."
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again..
Frankenstein was the doctor.
Not the monster.
Also, didn’t exist."
Ssshhh wait until we go on our ghost walk. |
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed.
It's the appearance that makes people call it that. It's like a wolf but stripey. I think it's half marsupial, half wolf and half tiger ...."
That one and a half |
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again..
Frankenstein was the doctor.
Not the monster.
Also, didn’t exist.
Ssshhh wait until we go on our ghost walk. "
Fuck me.
So now not only are vampires in the same category but now Frankenstein’s monster too!
He was called Adam by the way. |
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again..
Frankenstein was the doctor.
Not the monster.
Also, didn’t exist.
Ssshhh wait until we go on our ghost walk.
Fuck me.
So now not only are vampires in the same category but now Frankenstein’s monster too!
He was called Adam by the way."
I've already said yes, stop asking!!
But also, yes. Everything is real, stop non believing!!! |
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again..
Frankenstein was the doctor.
Not the monster.
Also, didn’t exist.
Ssshhh wait until we go on our ghost walk.
Fuck me.
So now not only are vampires in the same category but now Frankenstein’s monster too!
He was called Adam by the way.
I've already said yes, stop asking!!
But also, yes. Everything is real, stop non believing!!!"
I hope I see a Tasmanian tiger wolf dog. |
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again..
Frankenstein was the doctor.
Not the monster.
Also, didn’t exist.
Ssshhh wait until we go on our ghost walk.
Fuck me.
So now not only are vampires in the same category but now Frankenstein’s monster too!
He was called Adam by the way.
I've already said yes, stop asking!!
But also, yes. Everything is real, stop non believing!!!
I hope I see a Tasmanian tiger wolf dog. "
It's mine if we do!!! |
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again..
Frankenstein was the doctor.
Not the monster.
Also, didn’t exist.
Ssshhh wait until we go on our ghost walk.
Fuck me.
So now not only are vampires in the same category but now Frankenstein’s monster too!
He was called Adam by the way.
I've already said yes, stop asking!!
But also, yes. Everything is real, stop non believing!!!
I hope I see a Tasmanian tiger wolf dog.
It's mine if we do!!!"
Good luck.
This will not end well. |
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again.."
How are crazed people managing such feets of science?
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"These crazed scientists say they have already done the first two steps and just seven to go.. they will not stop until Frankenstein is created once again..
How are crazed people managing such feets of science?
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Or feets of foolery..
These beasts were hunted to extinction my the Tasmanians who actually put a bounty on their heads...
They were obviously bloody dangerous
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children |
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back.."
It can't have been half wolf and half tiger ... they are mammals, this was a marsupial |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children "
They are from tasmania  |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children "
I've met a good number of people from Tasmania, and... I'm pretty sure that the Tassies would not be impressed by this characterisation. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
I've met a good number of people from Tasmania, and... I'm pretty sure that the Tassies would not be impressed by this characterisation."
He's deliberately saying things that's provocative just to take the piss. It's why I'm just taking the piss back now. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
I've met a good number of people from Tasmania, and... I'm pretty sure that the Tassies would not be impressed by this characterisation."
Most tribes protect the womenfolk and children.
Nothing to see here, move along |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
I've met a good number of people from Tasmania, and... I'm pretty sure that the Tassies would not be impressed by this characterisation.
He's deliberately saying things that's provocative just to take the piss. It's why I'm just taking the piss back now."
That explains the bizarre posts .. thank you |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
I've met a good number of people from Tasmania, and... I'm pretty sure that the Tassies would not be impressed by this characterisation.
Most tribes protect the womenfolk and children.
Nothing to see here, move along "
The bounties for these creatures were bright in by the European settlers because an indigenous predator had the temerity to take their introduced sheep.
Damn the indigenous species |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
I've met a good number of people from Tasmania, and... I'm pretty sure that the Tassies would not be impressed by this characterisation.
Most tribes protect the womenfolk and children.
Nothing to see here, move along "
What tribes are you talking about, Tom? |
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed.
It's the appearance that makes people call it that. It's like a wolf but stripey. I think it's half marsupial, half wolf and half tiger ...."
Erm ... maths not your thing? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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This beast was half wolf, half tiger and half marsupial..
I am not sure what a marsupial is but sure it created an evil mix.. these crazy science people will not rest until they create a monster like Dr Hyde |
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"This beast was half wolf, half tiger and half marsupial..
I am not sure what a marsupial is but sure it created an evil mix.. these crazy science people will not rest until they create a monster like Dr Hyde "
The Dr was Jekyll... it was Mr Hyde .. and an animal made up of 1 1/2 animals ... horrific 
Does that mean 6 legs and a pouch? |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children "
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
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over a year ago
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr"
Ossies to blame ? |
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"Crazed scientists claim to be only 9 steps away from brining the Tasmanian wolf back from extincion. The last known wolf died in a zoo in 1932.
This will not end well..
What are the 9 steps?
1 find a female wolf alive
2 find a male wolf alive
...,,"
1. Find a female wolf
2. Extract semem from Essex Tom and gentically modify it...
10. Tom reports the birth on fab |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Crazed scientists claim to be only 9 steps away from brining the Tasmanian wolf back from extincion. The last known wolf died in a zoo in 1932.
This will not end well..
What are the 9 steps?
1 find a female wolf alive
2 find a male wolf alive
...,,
1. Find a female wolf
2. Extract semem from Essex Tom and gentically modify it...
10. Tom reports the birth on fab"
Silly  |
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"There are threads for everyone..
If you do not like then avoid or start your own please "
Was a genuine question. Just never know if you're serious or joking? |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?"
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating! "
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation. "
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts."
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is."
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation. "
Sure, but that happened long before the British - including my ancestors - deliberately exterminated an entire culture.
Abel Tasman discovered Tasmania (naming it Van Diemens Land) and Captain James Cook discovered that it was separate from the mainland. Both before the British invaded and began "smoothing the pillow of a dying race", which is an expression that did the rounds a lot in the 19th century as a way to make genocide sound friendly. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia."
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia "
To me it's genuinely neither here nor there on a thread where
a) The British, mostly, and the Australians in their footsteps, reduced natural biodiversity through their protection of invasive species and their ignorance of the ecosystem they invaded and b) they did so after having successfully exterminated an entire culture, which might have given them some insight into how to live successfully with the ecosystem that they stole. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia "
Think there was a land bridge maybe like the one between the old and new world or like Anglesey but something cut it.Its believed there was human contact between the mainland and Tasmania that suddenly ground to a halt. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia
Think there was a land bridge maybe like the one between the old and new world or like Anglesey but something cut it.Its believed there was human contact between the mainland and Tasmania that suddenly ground to a halt."
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia
To me it's genuinely neither here nor there on a thread where
a) The British, mostly, and the Australians in their footsteps, reduced natural biodiversity through their protection of invasive species and their ignorance of the ecosystem they invaded and b) they did so after having successfully exterminated an entire culture, which might have given them some insight into how to live successfully with the ecosystem that they stole."
Don’t disagree with the first point but you are aware that there is still thousands of aboriginals. Australians have also lived there for centuries successfully so I’m pretty sure all the insight has been shared. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia
Think there was a land bridge maybe like the one between the old and new world or like Anglesey but something cut it.Its believed there was human contact between the mainland and Tasmania that suddenly ground to a halt.
There was almost certainly a land bridge between PNG and the Torres Strait. Not sure about modern day Victoria and Australia."
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia
To me it's genuinely neither here nor there on a thread where
a) The British, mostly, and the Australians in their footsteps, reduced natural biodiversity through their protection of invasive species and their ignorance of the ecosystem they invaded and b) they did so after having successfully exterminated an entire culture, which might have given them some insight into how to live successfully with the ecosystem that they stole.
Don’t disagree with the first point but you are aware that there is still thousands of aboriginals. Australians have also lived there for centuries successfully so I’m pretty sure all the insight has been shared."
So all indigenous peoples are the same?
It's a bit like saying, if someone exterminated every English person on earth, it doesn't matter because Russians exist. You all live on the same continent, all same, yes?
British people, including my own ancestors, have lived there since 1788 and Australia became legally a country in 1901. The British/ Australian policies of genocide probably officially ended in the 1960s, but ongoing policies do very little to help the lagging mortality and other life expectancy measures of indigenous Australians of various tribes. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia
Think there was a land bridge maybe like the one between the old and new world or like Anglesey but something cut it.Its believed there was human contact between the mainland and Tasmania that suddenly ground to a halt.
There was almost certainly a land bridge between PNG and the Torres Strait. Not sure about modern day Victoria and Australia."
Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then? |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia
Think there was a land bridge maybe like the one between the old and new world or like Anglesey but something cut it.Its believed there was human contact between the mainland and Tasmania that suddenly ground to a halt.
There was almost certainly a land bridge between PNG and the Torres Strait. Not sure about modern day Victoria and Australia.
Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then? "
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol. |
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"Not sure it was genocide though. "
Oh?
What else do you call policies calling for bounties on the heads of everyone from a distinct culture? Pretending to be friendly to lure people into camps to kill them?
It's all over the history books. Be proud. World beating genocide. A textbook, unusually successful example. |
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"They day that the aboriginals were not native to Australia but travelled by boat and set fires to clear land for cultivation. No one knows for sure. This all happened centuries ago"
Indigenous Australians lived in Australia for about 60k years prior to British invasion.
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back.."
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"They day that the aboriginals were not native to Australia but travelled by boat and set fires to clear land for cultivation. No one knows for sure. This all happened centuries ago
Indigenous Australians lived in Australia for about 60k years prior to British invasion.
What were they cultivating, Tom, given they were hunter gatherers?"
There were farmers there you know not every aboriginal was the exact same.A few tribes had permanent settlements.Trading went on in a lot of the more “advanced” places. |
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"They day that the aboriginals were not native to Australia but travelled by boat and set fires to clear land for cultivation. No one knows for sure. This all happened centuries ago
Indigenous Australians lived in Australia for about 60k years prior to British invasion.
What were they cultivating, Tom, given they were hunter gatherers?
There were farmers there you know not every aboriginal was the exact same.A few tribes had permanent settlements.Trading went on in a lot of the more “advanced” places."
I'm not sure I argued that trade never occurred. I'm aware that there were incredibly complex social structures both within and throughout tribes, ethnic groups beyond tribes etc.
I wasn't aware that some farming took place, thank you, I've learned something.
But I imagine if you take a cursory look at the social structure and religious beliefs of indigenous Australians before their forcible conversion, you'll discover that the idea of burning down all the land for farms is a laughable idea that's completely incompatible with at least any indigenous Australian idea I've heard of. In fact, the invaders took over the practice of 'back burning' to allow the native flora to grow back without causing catastrophic bushfires. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
Indeed, I'm looking at a map now and cant see much in the way of geological activity around Tasmania, a few ocean fault lines but non that would explain the separation. For a start Tasmania occupies the same continental shelf as Australia
Think there was a land bridge maybe like the one between the old and new world or like Anglesey but something cut it.Its believed there was human contact between the mainland and Tasmania that suddenly ground to a halt.
There was almost certainly a land bridge between PNG and the Torres Strait. Not sure about modern day Victoria and Australia.
Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol. "
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong. |
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Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol.
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong."
40k years was quoted when I was a kid (in fact there is/ was a famous mural near Redfern station in Sydney, because of The Block, reading "Forty thousand years is a long long time, forty thousand years is still on my mind"). It was updated to 60k years. It may yet be older. But 60k years makes indigenous Australians one of the oldest cultures on Earth. I'm glad that the genocidal invaders were less successful than they have been, and I hope that reparations continue. |
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Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol.
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong.
40k years was quoted when I was a kid (in fact there is/ was a famous mural near Redfern station in Sydney, because of The Block, reading "Forty thousand years is a long long time, forty thousand years is still on my mind"). It was updated to 60k years. It may yet be older. But 60k years makes indigenous Australians one of the oldest cultures on Earth. I'm glad that the genocidal invaders were less successful than they have been, and I hope that reparations continue."
Either way it's been a bloody long time. |
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Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol.
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong.
40k years was quoted when I was a kid (in fact there is/ was a famous mural near Redfern station in Sydney, because of The Block, reading "Forty thousand years is a long long time, forty thousand years is still on my mind"). It was updated to 60k years. It may yet be older. But 60k years makes indigenous Australians one of the oldest cultures on Earth. I'm glad that the genocidal invaders were less successful than they have been, and I hope that reparations continue.
Either way it's been a bloody long time. "
Absolutely. I'm glad that there's increasing respect for the ancient cultures that existed long before the white gaze tried to destroy them and plunder their land.
The University of Sydney sits on the land of the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, and hopefully one day showing respect to the elders of that Koori tribe will be more than just well wishes and words. |
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"They day that the aboriginals were not native to Australia but travelled by boat and set fires to clear land for cultivation. No one knows for sure. This all happened centuries ago
Indigenous Australians lived in Australia for about 60k years prior to British invasion.
What were they cultivating, Tom, given they were hunter gatherers?
There were farmers there you know not every aboriginal was the exact same.A few tribes had permanent settlements.Trading went on in a lot of the more “advanced” places.
I'm not sure I argued that trade never occurred. I'm aware that there were incredibly complex social structures both within and throughout tribes, ethnic groups beyond tribes etc.
I wasn't aware that some farming took place, thank you, I've learned something.
But I imagine if you take a cursory look at the social structure and religious beliefs of indigenous Australians before their forcible conversion, you'll discover that the idea of burning down all the land for farms is a laughable idea that's completely incompatible with at least any indigenous Australian idea I've heard of. In fact, the invaders took over the practice of 'back burning' to allow the native flora to grow back without causing catastrophic bushfires."
Just pointing out that there would have been proper permanent settlements closer to ours,Don’t think Tasmania had that many if any though,Guess just cause of personal reasons get irritated when I think people go for the “mad tribal” approach to indigenous peoples.
Not sure about the burning but beliefs would vary among tribes but there are or were tribes in Colombia(not suggesting an equivalence) that were able to maintain farms without burning so you may be correct.But how many times have you seen “invaders” warp their religious beliefs for self gain?,same thing may have happened in Australia prior to their arrival.
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Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol.
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong.
40k years was quoted when I was a kid (in fact there is/ was a famous mural near Redfern station in Sydney, because of The Block, reading "Forty thousand years is a long long time, forty thousand years is still on my mind"). It was updated to 60k years. It may yet be older. But 60k years makes indigenous Australians one of the oldest cultures on Earth. I'm glad that the genocidal invaders were less successful than they have been, and I hope that reparations continue.
Either way it's been a bloody long time.
Absolutely. I'm glad that there's increasing respect for the ancient cultures that existed long before the white gaze tried to destroy them and plunder their land.
The University of Sydney sits on the land of the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, and hopefully one day showing respect to the elders of that Koori tribe will be more than just well wishes and words."
I'm guessing that respect comes more from the younger generations though and not from the political elites?
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Indigenous Australians lived in Australia for about 60k years prior to British invasion.
What were they cultivating, Tom, given they were hunter gatherers?
There were farmers there you know not every aboriginal was the exact same.A few tribes had permanent settlements.Trading went on in a lot of the more “advanced” places.
I'm not sure I argued that trade never occurred. I'm aware that there were incredibly complex social structures both within and throughout tribes, ethnic groups beyond tribes etc.
I wasn't aware that some farming took place, thank you, I've learned something.
But I imagine if you take a cursory look at the social structure and religious beliefs of indigenous Australians before their forcible conversion, you'll discover that the idea of burning down all the land for farms is a laughable idea that's completely incompatible with at least any indigenous Australian idea I've heard of. In fact, the invaders took over the practice of 'back burning' to allow the native flora to grow back without causing catastrophic bushfires.
Just pointing out that there would have been proper permanent settlements closer to ours,Don’t think Tasmania had that many if any though,Guess just cause of personal reasons get irritated when I think people go for the “mad tribal” approach to indigenous peoples.
Not sure about the burning but beliefs would vary among tribes but there are or were tribes in Colombia(not suggesting an equivalence) that were able to maintain farms without burning so you may be correct.But how many times have you seen “invaders” warp their religious beliefs for self gain?,same thing may have happened in Australia prior to their arrival.
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Sure. The British invaders most certainly warped their Christian beliefs to try to ensure the destruction of indigenous people, as well as their laws to count indigenous Australians and their cultures as non-human. It made the genocide seem less like a crime against humanity, I suppose.
Are you speaking from knowledge of Australian history and indigenous culture, or are you speculating? I'm speaking from a place of knowledge. The policy to take children away from indigenous mothers, all over Australia, in an effort to dilute and ultimately destroy indigenous culture (as well as lovely things like punishment for speaking one's native language) continued until the 1960s. In the 1960s indigenous Australians became legally human under Australian law.
World beating depravity, cruelty, cultural extermination. Amazing. British people (and people of British heritage like myself) should be so proud. |
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Wolves & tigers fucking, are you sure it wasn't an article on furries? "
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Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol.
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong.
40k years was quoted when I was a kid (in fact there is/ was a famous mural near Redfern station in Sydney, because of The Block, reading "Forty thousand years is a long long time, forty thousand years is still on my mind"). It was updated to 60k years. It may yet be older. But 60k years makes indigenous Australians one of the oldest cultures on Earth. I'm glad that the genocidal invaders were less successful than they have been, and I hope that reparations continue.
Either way it's been a bloody long time.
Absolutely. I'm glad that there's increasing respect for the ancient cultures that existed long before the white gaze tried to destroy them and plunder their land.
The University of Sydney sits on the land of the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, and hopefully one day showing respect to the elders of that Koori tribe will be more than just well wishes and words.
I'm guessing that respect comes more from the younger generations though and not from the political elites?
I've heard of Eora before but I just thought it was the name of region."
Yes, it is younger, although it's certainly growing. There have been a number of milestones that need to be followed through, and I'm not going to take away credit from the older activists working against the worst of the cruelty.
Gadigal is the tribe, Eora is a larger group than that, and there's larger ethnic groups (I don't know any, but much of eastern Australia falls under "Koori"). Most events now will give what's known as a "welcome to country" paying respects to the people on whose land they're sitting. |
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Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol.
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong.
40k years was quoted when I was a kid (in fact there is/ was a famous mural near Redfern station in Sydney, because of The Block, reading "Forty thousand years is a long long time, forty thousand years is still on my mind"). It was updated to 60k years. It may yet be older. But 60k years makes indigenous Australians one of the oldest cultures on Earth. I'm glad that the genocidal invaders were less successful than they have been, and I hope that reparations continue.
Either way it's been a bloody long time.
Absolutely. I'm glad that there's increasing respect for the ancient cultures that existed long before the white gaze tried to destroy them and plunder their land.
The University of Sydney sits on the land of the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, and hopefully one day showing respect to the elders of that Koori tribe will be more than just well wishes and words.
I'm guessing that respect comes more from the younger generations though and not from the political elites?
I've heard of Eora before but I just thought it was the name of region.
Yes, it is younger, although it's certainly growing. There have been a number of milestones that need to be followed through, and I'm not going to take away credit from the older activists working against the worst of the cruelty.
Gadigal is the tribe, Eora is a larger group than that, and there's larger ethnic groups (I don't know any, but much of eastern Australia falls under "Koori"). Most events now will give what's known as a "welcome to country" paying respects to the people on whose land they're sitting."
Naturally, it's common for younger people to not be listened to, it happens here often enough.
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"They day that the aboriginals were not native to Australia but travelled by boat and set fires to clear land for cultivation. No one knows for sure. This all happened centuries ago
Indigenous Australians lived in Australia for about 60k years prior to British invasion.
What were they cultivating, Tom, given they were hunter gatherers?
There were farmers there you know not every aboriginal was the exact same.A few tribes had permanent settlements.Trading went on in a lot of the more “advanced” places.
I'm not sure I argued that trade never occurred. I'm aware that there were incredibly complex social structures both within and throughout tribes, ethnic groups beyond tribes etc.
I wasn't aware that some farming took place, thank you, I've learned something.
But I imagine if you take a cursory look at the social structure and religious beliefs of indigenous Australians before their forcible conversion, you'll discover that the idea of burning down all the land for farms is a laughable idea that's completely incompatible with at least any indigenous Australian idea I've heard of. In fact, the invaders took over the practice of 'back burning' to allow the native flora to grow back without causing catastrophic bushfires.
Just pointing out that there would have been proper permanent settlements closer to ours,Don’t think Tasmania had that many if any though,Guess just cause of personal reasons get irritated when I think people go for the “mad tribal” approach to indigenous peoples.
Not sure about the burning but beliefs would vary among tribes but there are or were tribes in Colombia(not suggesting an equivalence) that were able to maintain farms without burning so you may be correct.But how many times have you seen “invaders” warp their religious beliefs for self gain?,same thing may have happened in Australia prior to their arrival.
Sure. The British invaders most certainly warped their Christian beliefs to try to ensure the destruction of indigenous people, as well as their laws to count indigenous Australians and their cultures as non-human. It made the genocide seem less like a crime against humanity, I suppose.
Are you speaking from knowledge of Australian history and indigenous culture, or are you speculating? I'm speaking from a place of knowledge. The policy to take children away from indigenous mothers, all over Australia, in an effort to dilute and ultimately destroy indigenous culture (as well as lovely things like punishment for speaking one's native language) continued until the 1960s. In the 1960s indigenous Australians became legally human under Australian law.
World beating depravity, cruelty, cultural extermination. Amazing. British people (and people of British heritage like myself) should be so proud."
Speaking from speculation also know people tend to write the best of themselves in history as the most pious and especially in oral history mostly heroes are remembered.My side of the family knows the truth of my ancestors of how many people they killed for their lord to sit high thats what my ancestors did what about yours?
I never denied the separation policies the driving of people from their lands to spaces in which they starved to death the murder of anyone who dared resist and yes the cultural genocide perpetuated in order to “civilise” them .Merely pointing out that they were human beings and well we all know what we are like. |
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Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol.
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong.
40k years was quoted when I was a kid (in fact there is/ was a famous mural near Redfern station in Sydney, because of The Block, reading "Forty thousand years is a long long time, forty thousand years is still on my mind"). It was updated to 60k years. It may yet be older. But 60k years makes indigenous Australians one of the oldest cultures on Earth. I'm glad that the genocidal invaders were less successful than they have been, and I hope that reparations continue.
Either way it's been a bloody long time.
Absolutely. I'm glad that there's increasing respect for the ancient cultures that existed long before the white gaze tried to destroy them and plunder their land.
The University of Sydney sits on the land of the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, and hopefully one day showing respect to the elders of that Koori tribe will be more than just well wishes and words.
I'm guessing that respect comes more from the younger generations though and not from the political elites?
I've heard of Eora before but I just thought it was the name of region.
Yes, it is younger, although it's certainly growing. There have been a number of milestones that need to be followed through, and I'm not going to take away credit from the older activists working against the worst of the cruelty.
Gadigal is the tribe, Eora is a larger group than that, and there's larger ethnic groups (I don't know any, but much of eastern Australia falls under "Koori"). Most events now will give what's known as a "welcome to country" paying respects to the people on whose land they're sitting.
Naturally, it's common for younger people to not be listened to, it happens here often enough.
That's good, sadly the shame of imperialism takes a long time to wash out, but a start is better than nothing "
We've come a long way, but we've got a long way to go.
Keeping the promises of the Royal Commission into indigenous deaths in custody would be a start. Less punitive measures in NT. Making sure that the public disorder trifecta (most familiar with NSW, probably exists elsewhere) is done away with. Making good on Mabo. Moving Australia Day for the love of God.
That would be a start. Just a start. The rift will take a long time to heal, because indigenous Australians have two centuries of evidence as to why "whitefellas" can't be trusted. |
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Indigenous Australians lived in Australia for about 60k years prior to British invasion.
What were they cultivating, Tom, given they were hunter gatherers?
There were farmers there you know not every aboriginal was the exact same.A few tribes had permanent settlements.Trading went on in a lot of the more “advanced” places.
I'm not sure I argued that trade never occurred. I'm aware that there were incredibly complex social structures both within and throughout tribes, ethnic groups beyond tribes etc.
I wasn't aware that some farming took place, thank you, I've learned something.
But I imagine if you take a cursory look at the social structure and religious beliefs of indigenous Australians before their forcible conversion, you'll discover that the idea of burning down all the land for farms is a laughable idea that's completely incompatible with at least any indigenous Australian idea I've heard of. In fact, the invaders took over the practice of 'back burning' to allow the native flora to grow back without causing catastrophic bushfires.
Just pointing out that there would have been proper permanent settlements closer to ours,Don’t think Tasmania had that many if any though,Guess just cause of personal reasons get irritated when I think people go for the “mad tribal” approach to indigenous peoples.
Not sure about the burning but beliefs would vary among tribes but there are or were tribes in Colombia(not suggesting an equivalence) that were able to maintain farms without burning so you may be correct.But how many times have you seen “invaders” warp their religious beliefs for self gain?,same thing may have happened in Australia prior to their arrival.
Sure. The British invaders most certainly warped their Christian beliefs to try to ensure the destruction of indigenous people, as well as their laws to count indigenous Australians and their cultures as non-human. It made the genocide seem less like a crime against humanity, I suppose.
Are you speaking from knowledge of Australian history and indigenous culture, or are you speculating? I'm speaking from a place of knowledge. The policy to take children away from indigenous mothers, all over Australia, in an effort to dilute and ultimately destroy indigenous culture (as well as lovely things like punishment for speaking one's native language) continued until the 1960s. In the 1960s indigenous Australians became legally human under Australian law.
World beating depravity, cruelty, cultural extermination. Amazing. British people (and people of British heritage like myself) should be so proud.
Speaking from speculation also know people tend to write the best of themselves in history as the most pious and especially in oral history mostly heroes are remembered.My side of the family knows the truth of my ancestors of how many people they killed for their lord to sit high thats what my ancestors did what about yours?
I never denied the separation policies the driving of people from their lands to spaces in which they starved to death the murder of anyone who dared resist and yes the cultural genocide perpetuated in order to “civilise” them .Merely pointing out that they were human beings and well we all know what we are like."
Fortunately the British kept exhaustive records, including of their genocide. And, unlike some places like Ireland or their colonies where owning people was much more prevalent, they didn't destroy most of these ones. (They did hide them from people for far too long in some cases) |
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Perhaps there was a land bridge from PNG through the Torres straight, but not for a very long time. PNG isnt exactly famous for its marsupials now is it. I take it you aren't a fan of Victorians then?
Damn it. Modern day Victoria and Tasmania. Damn it Swing. (Although all I meant was, to get from mainland Australia to Tasmania, the state of Victoria is closest)
Settlement of indigenous Australians was circa 60k years ago - there might be traces, I'm not familiar with the ancient fauna of the area, lol.
Ahh okay, I thought you were just trying to catch people out lol. Tasmania was probably connected to the mainland, but not strictly so. Marsupials first evolved in South America and rafted over to colonise Australia. The same could of happened for Tasmania as well.
I thought the native Australians had been there closer to 100 thousand years but I'm probably wrong.
40k years was quoted when I was a kid (in fact there is/ was a famous mural near Redfern station in Sydney, because of The Block, reading "Forty thousand years is a long long time, forty thousand years is still on my mind"). It was updated to 60k years. It may yet be older. But 60k years makes indigenous Australians one of the oldest cultures on Earth. I'm glad that the genocidal invaders were less successful than they have been, and I hope that reparations continue.
Either way it's been a bloody long time.
Absolutely. I'm glad that there's increasing respect for the ancient cultures that existed long before the white gaze tried to destroy them and plunder their land.
The University of Sydney sits on the land of the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, and hopefully one day showing respect to the elders of that Koori tribe will be more than just well wishes and words.
I'm guessing that respect comes more from the younger generations though and not from the political elites?
I've heard of Eora before but I just thought it was the name of region.
Yes, it is younger, although it's certainly growing. There have been a number of milestones that need to be followed through, and I'm not going to take away credit from the older activists working against the worst of the cruelty.
Gadigal is the tribe, Eora is a larger group than that, and there's larger ethnic groups (I don't know any, but much of eastern Australia falls under "Koori"). Most events now will give what's known as a "welcome to country" paying respects to the people on whose land they're sitting.
Naturally, it's common for younger people to not be listened to, it happens here often enough.
That's good, sadly the shame of imperialism takes a long time to wash out, but a start is better than nothing
We've come a long way, but we've got a long way to go.
Keeping the promises of the Royal Commission into indigenous deaths in custody would be a start. Less punitive measures in NT. Making sure that the public disorder trifecta (most familiar with NSW, probably exists elsewhere) is done away with. Making good on Mabo. Moving Australia Day for the love of God.
That would be a start. Just a start. The rift will take a long time to heal, because indigenous Australians have two centuries of evidence as to why "whitefellas" can't be trusted."
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Wolves & tigers fucking, are you sure it wasn't an article on furries?
No wolves and tigers fucking- it was a marsupial. "
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia."
The thing that the majority of people call a theory is actually a hypothesis. The thing that the majority of people call a physical law is actually a theory.
Correct usage:
A law (in science) is something that is absolutely certain, 100% bulletproof and a foundation of our understanding of the universe. There are very few physical laws.
A theory is something for which there is phenomenal levels of supporting evidence and zero contradictory evidence. It has to agree with all physical laws and have predictive power that can be totally relied upon. However there is a possibility that it might be incomplete or may require refining in view of future evidence gathered from more extreme conditions.
A hypothesis is an explanation for some phenomenon that is not contradicted by current evidence, is plausible and has some predictive power, does not contradict any physical laws or theories, but may not be the only possible explanation of the phenomenon. The predictions from a hypothesis may be used to point the directions for gathering futher evidence which might help reinforce the hypothesis, refine the terms of the hypothesis, or disprove the hypothesis.
When most people say "my hypothesis is", they are actually making a wild guess without any supporting evidence. |
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"Does anybody know anything about the Tasmanian people ?
I guess they lived in fear of these animals and decided to fight back..
Who can blame a tribe from protecting their livestock, women and children
The Tasmanian people lived with the Tasmanian Wolf for tens of thousands of years - 8000 or so cut off entirely from the rest of the world. The culture and the wolf was driven to extinction by Western settlers with the people hearded into camps. The word genocide is considered by many to best describe the fate of the aboriginal people who lived on Tasmania. If this wasn't a word that exclusively relates to humans, it would be as good as any to describe the fate of the wolf too.
Mr
Ossies to blame ?
The person believed to be the last Tasmanian Aboriginal person died in 1876.
Australia became a country in 1901.
This genocide - one of the few in the world that was thought to be total and successful - was perpetrated by the British.
World beating!
I checked my Atlas my theory is that Tasmania was once joined up with the island of Australia. I imagine that when it split because of seismic activity that family's were separated or had to use boats to visit loved ones. It is a shame that there are no native people left on Tasmania. It would be interesting to see if they had different physical traits caused by centuries of separation.
Not a theory but a fact and yes there would be a lot of physical differences also a lot of cultural differences.Its difficult to explain but think Tasmanians were poorer than their mainland counterparts.
I'm not sure that a theory is what you think it is.
Aye misspoke haha meant to say commonly believed theory that is about Tasmania splitting from Australia.
The thing that the majority of people call a theory is actually a hypothesis. The thing that the majority of people call a physical law is actually a theory.
Correct usage:
A law (in science) is something that is absolutely certain, 100% bulletproof and a foundation of our understanding of the universe. There are very few physical laws.
A theory is something for which there is phenomenal levels of supporting evidence and zero contradictory evidence. It has to agree with all physical laws and have predictive power that can be totally relied upon. However there is a possibility that it might be incomplete or may require refining in view of future evidence gathered from more extreme conditions.
A hypothesis is an explanation for some phenomenon that is not contradicted by current evidence, is plausible and has some predictive power, does not contradict any physical laws or theories, but may not be the only possible explanation of the phenomenon. The predictions from a hypothesis may be used to point the directions for gathering futher evidence which might help reinforce the hypothesis, refine the terms of the hypothesis, or disprove the hypothesis.
When most people say "my hypothesis is", they are actually making a wild guess without any supporting evidence."
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?"
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved. |
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved."
You maybe too close to make an objective comment.. |
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved.
You maybe too close to make an objective comment.. "
Too close to what?
I imagine that everyone with British ancestry might be uncomfortable with the desecration of indigenous Australian land, the abuse of the flora and fauna, and the both successful and attempted genocides that our ancestors perpetrated.
Babies snatched from mothers arms, wages not given or even withheld, bounties put on the heads of people who were denied their humanity.
Like so many British things, as our politicians insist on putting it, the depraved, prolonged, and deliberate cultural erasure, the crimes against humanity, and the genocide - they're so world beating, aren't they?
It's all over the history books, I don't make these things up |
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"Crazed scientists claim to be only 9 steps away from brining the Tasmanian wolf back from extincion. The last known wolf died in a zoo in 1932.
This will not end well..
What are the 9 steps?
1. Have an idea to bring back the Tasmanian Wolf.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Ta-da!"
This made me laugh.
A lot.
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved.
You maybe too close to make an objective comment..
Too close to what?
I imagine that everyone with British ancestry might be uncomfortable with the desecration of indigenous Australian land, the abuse of the flora and fauna, and the both successful and attempted genocides that our ancestors perpetrated.
Babies snatched from mothers arms, wages not given or even withheld, bounties put on the heads of people who were denied their humanity.
Like so many British things, as our politicians insist on putting it, the depraved, prolonged, and deliberate cultural erasure, the crimes against humanity, and the genocide - they're so world beating, aren't they?
It's all over the history books, I don't make these things up"
And not one person alive today to blame...
My conscience clear.. and everyone alive today.. |
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"Stripy dogs with pockets sound amazing! Even if they are half wolf/tiger/kangeroo.
What do they keep in their pockets?"
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved.
You maybe too close to make an objective comment..
Too close to what?
I imagine that everyone with British ancestry might be uncomfortable with the desecration of indigenous Australian land, the abuse of the flora and fauna, and the both successful and attempted genocides that our ancestors perpetrated.
Babies snatched from mothers arms, wages not given or even withheld, bounties put on the heads of people who were denied their humanity.
Like so many British things, as our politicians insist on putting it, the depraved, prolonged, and deliberate cultural erasure, the crimes against humanity, and the genocide - they're so world beating, aren't they?
It's all over the history books, I don't make these things up"
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"Crazed scientists claim to be only 9 steps away from brining the Tasmanian wolf back from extincion. The last known wolf died in a zoo in 1932.
This will not end well..
What are the 9 steps?
1. Have an idea to bring back the Tasmanian Wolf.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Ta-da!"
Let me guess. You are the director on a big project steering committee? |
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"I'm really glad they spend money on useful things. The people living in poverty will be delighted. "
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved.
You maybe too close to make an objective comment..
Too close to what?
I imagine that everyone with British ancestry might be uncomfortable with the desecration of indigenous Australian land, the abuse of the flora and fauna, and the both successful and attempted genocides that our ancestors perpetrated.
Babies snatched from mothers arms, wages not given or even withheld, bounties put on the heads of people who were denied their humanity.
Like so many British things, as our politicians insist on putting it, the depraved, prolonged, and deliberate cultural erasure, the crimes against humanity, and the genocide - they're so world beating, aren't they?
It's all over the history books, I don't make these things up
And not one person alive today to blame...
My conscience clear.. and everyone alive today.. "
So the genocidal policies which continued into the 1960s, there's no one alive that was an adult in the 1960s?
And the intergenerational effects on the people continue. The damage to the environment continues.
I accept that my ancestors - and, indirectly, I - benefit(ed) from the monstrous actions of British and Australian governments.
I accept that it is up to beneficiaries of such policies to make amends - not just in Australia, but throughout the British empire. The might of the British - some fortune, some invention, and a whole lot of theft, exploitation, and genocide. A history truly littered with world beating depravity.
I also recognise that few have the moral fortitude to face up to the realities of our past, and to work out how to make the ongoing damage better.
I keep chipping away, along with my allies, against such grubby small mindedness and try to make life better for everyone. And to make things right. My conscience won't allow otherwise. |
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"Having wolves back in their natural habitat can encourage other wildlife and support eco systems...
So not necessarily something to fear.
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This happened at Yellowstone when the Wolves were re introduced |
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed.
It's the appearance that makes people call it that. It's like a wolf but stripey. I think it's half marsupial, half wolf and half tiger ...."
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Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved.
You maybe too close to make an objective comment..
Too close to what?
I imagine that everyone with British ancestry might be uncomfortable with the desecration of indigenous Australian land, the abuse of the flora and fauna, and the both successful and attempted genocides that our ancestors perpetrated.
Babies snatched from mothers arms, wages not given or even withheld, bounties put on the heads of people who were denied their humanity.
Like so many British things, as our politicians insist on putting it, the depraved, prolonged, and deliberate cultural erasure, the crimes against humanity, and the genocide - they're so world beating, aren't they?
It's all over the history books, I don't make these things up
Feel free to leave the country you are so critical of.. "
Oh, the old 'if you don't like it, leave?'
Cute.
No. I know Britain is better than this. The British are better than this. Too many just don't know about the depths of depravity that were carried out in its name, and too many grubby, small minded authoritarians seek to flare up emotions in the feeble minded, to make it seem like an attack on them. The culture wars.
I think national pride is facing up to what a country actually is, not telling lies about what you believe it should be. Working out how to make it better, working out how to let it live up to its potential.
I imagine it's a bit like parenting. Is it love to let a child shit in their pants, because you accept them just as they are? Or should you correct them, teach them to do better, allow them to fulfil their full potential?
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved.
You maybe too close to make an objective comment..
Too close to what?
I imagine that everyone with British ancestry might be uncomfortable with the desecration of indigenous Australian land, the abuse of the flora and fauna, and the both successful and attempted genocides that our ancestors perpetrated.
Babies snatched from mothers arms, wages not given or even withheld, bounties put on the heads of people who were denied their humanity.
Like so many British things, as our politicians insist on putting it, the depraved, prolonged, and deliberate cultural erasure, the crimes against humanity, and the genocide - they're so world beating, aren't they?
It's all over the history books, I don't make these things up
And not one person alive today to blame...
My conscience clear.. and everyone alive today..
So the genocidal policies which continued into the 1960s, there's no one alive that was an adult in the 1960s?
And the intergenerational effects on the people continue. The damage to the environment continues.
I accept that my ancestors - and, indirectly, I - benefit(ed) from the monstrous actions of British and Australian governments.
I accept that it is up to beneficiaries of such policies to make amends - not just in Australia, but throughout the British empire. The might of the British - some fortune, some invention, and a whole lot of theft, exploitation, and genocide. A history truly littered with world beating depravity.
I also recognise that few have the moral fortitude to face up to the realities of our past, and to work out how to make the ongoing damage better.
I keep chipping away, along with my allies, against such grubby small mindedness and try to make life better for everyone. And to make things right. My conscience won't allow otherwise."
You want to blame everybody but not my monkey.. nowt to do with me.. wish you luck as I wave you goodbye..
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved.
You maybe too close to make an objective comment..
Too close to what?
I imagine that everyone with British ancestry might be uncomfortable with the desecration of indigenous Australian land, the abuse of the flora and fauna, and the both successful and attempted genocides that our ancestors perpetrated.
Babies snatched from mothers arms, wages not given or even withheld, bounties put on the heads of people who were denied their humanity.
Like so many British things, as our politicians insist on putting it, the depraved, prolonged, and deliberate cultural erasure, the crimes against humanity, and the genocide - they're so world beating, aren't they?
It's all over the history books, I don't make these things up
And not one person alive today to blame...
My conscience clear.. and everyone alive today..
So the genocidal policies which continued into the 1960s, there's no one alive that was an adult in the 1960s?
And the intergenerational effects on the people continue. The damage to the environment continues.
I accept that my ancestors - and, indirectly, I - benefit(ed) from the monstrous actions of British and Australian governments.
I accept that it is up to beneficiaries of such policies to make amends - not just in Australia, but throughout the British empire. The might of the British - some fortune, some invention, and a whole lot of theft, exploitation, and genocide. A history truly littered with world beating depravity.
I also recognise that few have the moral fortitude to face up to the realities of our past, and to work out how to make the ongoing damage better.
I keep chipping away, along with my allies, against such grubby small mindedness and try to make life better for everyone. And to make things right. My conscience won't allow otherwise.
You want to blame everybody but not my monkey.. nowt to do with me.. wish you luck as I wave you goodbye..
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I accept responsibility first. Then point to where responsibility lies.
To be truly proud of your nation, you first have to know it.
Completed genocide is pretty rare. The British accomplished it (I count myself as British here, as Australia didn't exist yet).
Be proud. Britain has been utterly world beating in its depravity and crimes against humanity.
Isn't that what people want? To know British history and for it to be world beating? |
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"Is there an elephant in the room here ?
Elephants are one of the few animals that the British didn't bring into Australia and left to go feral. So I'm not sure why you'd think there are elephants involved.
You maybe too close to make an objective comment..
Too close to what?
I imagine that everyone with British ancestry might be uncomfortable with the desecration of indigenous Australian land, the abuse of the flora and fauna, and the both successful and attempted genocides that our ancestors perpetrated.
Babies snatched from mothers arms, wages not given or even withheld, bounties put on the heads of people who were denied their humanity.
Like so many British things, as our politicians insist on putting it, the depraved, prolonged, and deliberate cultural erasure, the crimes against humanity, and the genocide - they're so world beating, aren't they?
It's all over the history books, I don't make these things up
And not one person alive today to blame...
My conscience clear.. and everyone alive today..
So the genocidal policies which continued into the 1960s, there's no one alive that was an adult in the 1960s?
And the intergenerational effects on the people continue. The damage to the environment continues.
I accept that my ancestors - and, indirectly, I - benefit(ed) from the monstrous actions of British and Australian governments.
I accept that it is up to beneficiaries of such policies to make amends - not just in Australia, but throughout the British empire. The might of the British - some fortune, some invention, and a whole lot of theft, exploitation, and genocide. A history truly littered with world beating depravity.
I also recognise that few have the moral fortitude to face up to the realities of our past, and to work out how to make the ongoing damage better.
I keep chipping away, along with my allies, against such grubby small mindedness and try to make life better for everyone. And to make things right. My conscience won't allow otherwise.
You want to blame everybody but not my monkey.. nowt to do with me.. wish you luck as I wave you goodbye..
I accept responsibility first. Then point to where responsibility lies.
To be truly proud of your nation, you first have to know it.
Completed genocide is pretty rare. The British accomplished it (I count myself as British here, as Australia didn't exist yet).
Be proud. Britain has been utterly world beating in its depravity and crimes against humanity.
Isn't that what people want? To know British history and for it to be world beating?"
Feel free to shit your pants and lay the blame at anyone's door you choose.. probably not yours...
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed.
It's the appearance that makes people call it that. It's like a wolf but stripey. I think it's half marsupial, half wolf and half tiger ....
These crazy scientists must be truly crazy if they can fit 3x1/2 into a whole. Must be some “top of the range crypto shit” going on there!"
They just stretched the skin a bit to fit everything in. Hope it doesn't overexert itself too much, it'd be awful if it popped! |
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed.
It's the appearance that makes people call it that. It's like a wolf but stripey. I think it's half marsupial, half wolf and half tiger ....
These crazy scientists must be truly crazy if they can fit 3x1/2 into a whole. Must be some “top of the range crypto shit” going on there!
They just stretched the skin a bit to fit everything in. Hope it doesn't overexert itself too much, it'd be awful if it popped!"
And that is the point...do threse crazed science types understand what they do?
Ethics do not get considered here.. the will not hesitate to create another Frankenstein.. no wonder bird flu is spreading across borders.. |
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed.
It's the appearance that makes people call it that. It's like a wolf but stripey. I think it's half marsupial, half wolf and half tiger ....
These crazy scientists must be truly crazy if they can fit 3x1/2 into a whole. Must be some “top of the range crypto shit” going on there!
They just stretched the skin a bit to fit everything in. Hope it doesn't overexert itself too much, it'd be awful if it popped!
And that is the point...do threse crazed science types understand what they do?
Ethics do not get considered here.. the will not hesitate to create another Frankenstein.. no wonder bird flu is spreading across borders.. "
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Half tiger and half wolf. Simply not possible for these species to cross breed.
It's the appearance that makes people call it that. It's like a wolf but stripey. I think it's half marsupial, half wolf and half tiger ....
These crazy scientists must be truly crazy if they can fit 3x1/2 into a whole. Must be some “top of the range crypto shit” going on there!
They just stretched the skin a bit to fit everything in. Hope it doesn't overexert itself too much, it'd be awful if it popped!
And that is the point...do threse crazed science types understand what they do?
Ethics do not get considered here.. the will not hesitate to create another Frankenstein.. no wonder bird flu is spreading across borders..
Just blame the British. The cause of all the world’s ills. "
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"Crazed scientists claim to be only 9 steps away from brining the Tasmanian wolf back from extincion. The last known wolf died in a zoo in 1932.
This will not end well..
What are the 9 steps?
1 find a female wolf alive
2 find a male wolf alive
...,,
1. Find a female wolf
2. Extract semem from Essex Tom and gentically modify it...
10. Tom reports the birth on fab
Silly "
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Wolves & tigers fucking, are you sure it wasn't an article on
furries? "
it was a marsupial |
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"It is also known as the Tasmanian Tiger because it had and stripes. It was half wolf and half tiger I believe and these crazy science types are plotting to bring it back..
Wolves & tigers fucking, are you sure it wasn't an article on
furries?
it was a marsupial "
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