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Doesn’t mean it can’t operate as a business, just that money can’t be taken out. Given that this is a business where money goes in instead, I don’t see a short term issue. Until transfer season, when they’ll have to sell some of their enormous selection of loan players to raise funds rather than get Roman to ferret in his pockets for a few million in change.
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"Doesn’t mean it can’t operate as a business, just that money can’t be taken out. Given that this is a business where money goes in instead, I don’t see a short term issue. Until transfer season, when they’ll have to sell some of their enormous selection of loan players to raise funds rather than get Roman to ferret in his pockets for a few million in change.
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Have you seen the terms of the licence which allows them to continue? You won't be happy. |
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I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ? |
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"Doesn’t mean it can’t operate as a business, just that money can’t be taken out. Given that this is a business where money goes in instead, I don’t see a short term issue. Until transfer season, when they’ll have to sell some of their enormous selection of loan players to raise funds rather than get Roman to ferret in his pockets for a few million in change.
Full disclosure:Chelsea fan since ‘84
Have you seen the terms of the licence which allows them to continue? You won't be happy. "
I can totally put my ethics and morals above my football allegiance, I’m not fussed what they do to be honest! |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ? "
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it. |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it. "
The ticket situation won't be as much of an issue. Away support tickets, the 10% they have to allocate, will be gifted to the away team. If they reach a final the tickets will just be sold via the host, rather than the club. I guess they will also figure out a way of "selling" the rest of the match day tickets via their charity. |
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"Abramovich can’t sell it now his assets are frozen. What might happen to these footballing goliaths?"
Money has made them Goliath's ,they had a very poor record before the injection of cash , it proves it by looking back on their record but who really cares ? They are now where they are . |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The ticket situation won't be as much of an issue. Away support tickets, the 10% they have to allocate, will be gifted to the away team. If they reach a final the tickets will just be sold via the host, rather than the club. I guess they will also figure out a way of "selling" the rest of the match day tickets via their charity."
I don't know what proportion of the regular league matches are season ticket holders, but they wouldn't be able to sell any kind of ticket now. No merchandise in the shop or online. No programmes, no corporate suite passes etc. They're going to lose money as a consequence. |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it. "
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue. |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The ticket situation won't be as much of an issue. Away support tickets, the 10% they have to allocate, will be gifted to the away team. If they reach a final the tickets will just be sold via the host, rather than the club. I guess they will also figure out a way of "selling" the rest of the match day tickets via their charity.
I don't know what proportion of the regular league matches are season ticket holders, but they wouldn't be able to sell any kind of ticket now. No merchandise in the shop or online. No programmes, no corporate suite passes etc. They're going to lose money as a consequence. "
30k season tickets, or that's what I think I heard this morning.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue. "
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue.
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out "
Yes I’m aware of that but with just over half the ground full, you won’t need as many stewards on match days or catering staff. Will their wages still be paid ?
Same with the shop and those that manage it online, no trade no jobs for the staff currently employed.
Chelsea will probably cover it under the wages costs agreed until end of season, for those no longer required. However, if this drags into next season, unlikely. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue.
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out
Yes I’m aware of that but with just over half the ground full, you won’t need as many stewards on match days or catering staff. Will their wages still be paid ?
Same with the shop and those that manage it online, no trade no jobs for the staff currently employed.
Chelsea will probably cover it under the wages costs agreed until end of season, for those no longer required. However, if this drags into next season, unlikely. "
Everyone under the special license is covered till July 1st including all staffs wage’s… including all staff on the books whether they are required or not
Chelsea only gives 3k to away fans anyway… they also had the highest away fans prices anyway |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue.
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out
Yes I’m aware of that but with just over half the ground full, you won’t need as many stewards on match days or catering staff. Will their wages still be paid ?
Same with the shop and those that manage it online, no trade no jobs for the staff currently employed.
Chelsea will probably cover it under the wages costs agreed until end of season, for those no longer required. However, if this drags into next season, unlikely.
Everyone under the special license is covered till July 1st including all staffs wage’s… including all staff on the books whether they are required or not
Chelsea only gives 3k to away fans anyway… they also had the highest away fans prices anyway "
No PL club is allowed to charge more than £30 a ticket for any PL game. So since the ruling a few years ago that is the maximum. And the 3k allowance is that you have to put a percentage of your ground to away sales. For cup games we always give the Shed up so over 6 thousand.
As for season tickets it used to be about 25k.
Waiting to hear on the away season tickets as we have already paid up front for these so in theory the 1000 people should still be able to attend until the end of the season?? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Haven’t seen anything on transfers… Are players who wish to leave restricted as they “ belong” to Chelsea or an individual..?? Does Bosman kick in.. don’t see how they can buy anyone..??"
At the moment all contracts are being honoured.. only those contracts due to expire would be allowed to leave… other than that no transfers in or out and no contracts allowed to be renegotiated |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue.
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out
Yes I’m aware of that but with just over half the ground full, you won’t need as many stewards on match days or catering staff. Will their wages still be paid ?
Same with the shop and those that manage it online, no trade no jobs for the staff currently employed.
Chelsea will probably cover it under the wages costs agreed until end of season, for those no longer required. However, if this drags into next season, unlikely.
Everyone under the special license is covered till July 1st including all staffs wage’s… including all staff on the books whether they are required or not
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue.
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out
Yes I’m aware of that but with just over half the ground full, you won’t need as many stewards on match days or catering staff. Will their wages still be paid ?
Same with the shop and those that manage it online, no trade no jobs for the staff currently employed.
Chelsea will probably cover it under the wages costs agreed until end of season, for those no longer required. However, if this drags into next season, unlikely.
Everyone under the special license is covered till July 1st including all staffs wage’s… including all staff on the books whether they are required or not
Chelsea only gives 3k to away fans anyway… they also had the highest away fans prices anyway
No PL club is allowed to charge more than £30 a ticket for any PL game. So since the ruling a few years ago that is the maximum. And the 3k allowance is that you have to put a percentage of your ground to away sales. For cup games we always give the Shed up so over 6 thousand.
As for season tickets it used to be about 25k.
Waiting to hear on the away season tickets as we have already paid up front for these so in theory the 1000 people should still be able to attend until the end of the season??"
I’d say the away season ticket counts as already paid for.
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue.
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out
Yes I’m aware of that but with just over half the ground full, you won’t need as many stewards on match days or catering staff. Will their wages still be paid ?
Same with the shop and those that manage it online, no trade no jobs for the staff currently employed.
Chelsea will probably cover it under the wages costs agreed until end of season, for those no longer required. However, if this drags into next season, unlikely.
Everyone under the special license is covered till July 1st including all staffs wage’s… including all staff on the books whether they are required or not
Chelsea only gives 3k to away fans anyway… they also had the highest away fans prices anyway
No PL club is allowed to charge more than £30 a ticket for any PL game. So since the ruling a few years ago that is the maximum. And the 3k allowance is that you have to put a percentage of your ground to away sales. For cup games we always give the Shed up so over 6 thousand.
As for season tickets it used to be about 25k.
Waiting to hear on the away season tickets as we have already paid up front for these so in theory the 1000 people should still be able to attend until the end of the season??
I’d say the away season ticket counts as already paid for.
If they can’t trade though, what happens to renewals ? "
It should still count but I guess that the club would still have to pay for the allocation from the clubs once decided. So will it still work.
We are off to Norwich later and I had purchased our Middlesbrough tickets yesterday.
Middlesborough tickets are now off sale so guess we may be stopped from going.
I doubt they will do renewals at all until something is decided upon. For all we know they could just wind the whole business up.
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue.
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out
Yes I’m aware of that but with just over half the ground full, you won’t need as many stewards on match days or catering staff. Will their wages still be paid ?
Same with the shop and those that manage it online, no trade no jobs for the staff currently employed.
Chelsea will probably cover it under the wages costs agreed until end of season, for those no longer required. However, if this drags into next season, unlikely.
Everyone under the special license is covered till July 1st including all staffs wage’s… including all staff on the books whether they are required or not
Chelsea only gives 3k to away fans anyway… they also had the highest away fans prices anyway
No PL club is allowed to charge more than £30 a ticket for any PL game. So since the ruling a few years ago that is the maximum. And the 3k allowance is that you have to put a percentage of your ground to away sales. For cup games we always give the Shed up so over 6 thousand.
As for season tickets it used to be about 25k.
Waiting to hear on the away season tickets as we have already paid up front for these so in theory the 1000 people should still be able to attend until the end of the season??
I’d say the away season ticket counts as already paid for.
If they can’t trade though, what happens to renewals ?
It should still count but I guess that the club would still have to pay for the allocation from the clubs once decided. So will it still work.
We are off to Norwich later and I had purchased our Middlesbrough tickets yesterday.
Middlesborough tickets are now off sale so guess we may be stopped from going.
I doubt they will do renewals at all until something is decided upon. For all we know they could just wind the whole business up.
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Renewals aren't allowed right now but they probably will be. Need to keep the club/company as an ongoing concern to make it saleable. The monies will just be held for the future owner.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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I was going to say that if Newcastle fans aren’t waving fivers and tenners at Chelsea fans on Sunday I am truly going to be disappointed….  |
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Looks like the government are open to another special licence to allow the sale of the club but without Abramavitch getting his hands on any proceeds.
Might be the best thing long term |
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"Looks like the government are open to another special licence to allow the sale of the club but without Abramavitch getting his hands on any proceeds.
Might be the best thing long term "
That makes sense and the best way. Rival or not, I wouldn’t want to see the club fold. |
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"Looks like the government are open to another special licence to allow the sale of the club but without Abramavitch getting his hands on any proceeds.
Might be the best thing long term "
Should be simple to arrange given he already said he didn’t want to keep the proceeds |
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Hopefully this will signal the end of big finance (however dirty the money is) destroying the national game. I can still remember when Chelsea players had other jobs and would turn up to play on Saturday afternoons. The games were just as much fun to watch and support. And there was a much stronger local connection too which is just how clubs should be. |
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"Hopefully this will signal the end of big finance (however dirty the money is) destroying the national game. I can still remember when Chelsea players had other jobs and would turn up to play on Saturday afternoons. The games were just as much fun to watch and support. And there was a much stronger local connection too which is just how clubs should be. "
Which is ideally how it should be … |
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"Hopefully this will signal the end of big finance (however dirty the money is) destroying the national game. I can still remember when Chelsea players had other jobs and would turn up to play on Saturday afternoons. The games were just as much fun to watch and support. And there was a much stronger local connection too which is just how clubs should be. "
Good luck with this project |
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"Hopefully this will signal the end of big finance (however dirty the money is) destroying the national game. I can still remember when Chelsea players had other jobs and would turn up to play on Saturday afternoons. The games were just as much fun to watch and support. And there was a much stronger local connection too which is just how clubs should be. "
Sorry I completely disagree. Given the choice of watching Mickey Droy or Thiago Silva (and I've watched both play many times at the Bridge) I'll watch Silva please. |
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"Hopefully this will signal the end of big finance (however dirty the money is) destroying the national game. I can still remember when Chelsea players had other jobs and would turn up to play on Saturday afternoons. The games were just as much fun to watch and support. And there was a much stronger local connection too which is just how clubs should be. "
Well said, big money, particularly dirty money is ruining the game. |
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This is going to be interesting to see how The Government handle Chelsea. I have a mate who works in the London branch of a Russian Bank. You can imagine how worried he is currently about his job. If Chelsea are allowed to continue to operate, then it strikes me as double standards. |
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"This is going to be interesting to see how The Government handle Chelsea. I have a mate who works in the London branch of a Russian Bank. You can imagine how worried he is currently about his job. If Chelsea are allowed to continue to operate, then it strikes me as double standards. "
Why?
One is a bank, the other a company
The company will be sold as a going concern.
A Russian bank isn't exactly saleable. |
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"Their allocated £20k expenses budget for each away game won’t cover their chartered jet and 5* hotel usual lifestyle
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You would think the players would arrange there own flights/hotel if they get to the quarter-finals or further in the champions league, I know I would
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"3 have confirmed the suspension of their Chelsea shirt sponsorship.
Maybe they're considering an offer for Derby County  "
So…. Old school shirts vs skins on Sunday then!!! |
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"3 have confirmed the suspension of their Chelsea shirt sponsorship.
Maybe they're considering an offer for Derby County
So…. Old school shirts vs skins on Sunday then!!! "
I bet Cristiano Ronaldo wishes he signed for Chelsea now. |
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"3 have confirmed the suspension of their Chelsea shirt sponsorship.
Maybe they're considering an offer for Derby County
So…. Old school shirts vs skins on Sunday then!!! "
Sounds like a plan, I'm sure we could mussel up a mud wrestling team |
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"Their allocated £20k expenses budget for each away game won’t cover their chartered jet and 5* hotel usual lifestyle
You would think the players would arrange there own flights/hotel if they get to the quarter-finals or further in the champions league, I know I would
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I doubt they could afford to,I mean they are all on the breadline and struggling.
How can they survive on 100kplus a week must be really difficult. |
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"This is going to be interesting to see how The Government handle Chelsea. I have a mate who works in the London branch of a Russian Bank. You can imagine how worried he is currently about his job. If Chelsea are allowed to continue to operate, then it strikes me as double standards.
Why?
One is a bank, the other a company
The company will be sold as a going concern.
A Russian bank isn't exactly saleable."
The Bank he works for has been told to cease operations. Which would mean, gif Chelsea, not fulfilling their fixtures? |
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"The Bank he works for has been told to cease operations. Which would mean, gif Chelsea, not fulfilling their fixtures?"
I think they can sell at least a couple of layers for £?M. Wazza is relying on our U23's to keep us afloat  |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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It all very well continuing but with no money coming in they are going to run out of cash well before the end of season. Then what happens. Read somewhere that club wages for all staff is around £28m alone if the government is stopping them generating money then with the month they will have to cease trading. |
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"Well we're 2 0 up after 15 minutes so the players aren't giving up"
Chelsea thrive in chaos. Watch them win the Champions League and somehow the league  |
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"It all very well continuing but with no money coming in they are going to run out of cash well before the end of season. Then what happens. Read somewhere that club wages for all staff is around £28m alone if the government is stopping them generating money then with the month they will have to cease trading."
They said on the radio they have very small cash reserves for a club of that size, either 17 or 27mil last accounts or something. |
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By *akie32Man
over a year ago
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Im not a football fan so dont know the ins and outs of it, but isnt this the price you pay for holding out for the highest bidder full well knowing where the money comes from, anyone could see that russian money while great at the time, was never going to last, when he bought the club i thought , oh well thats the end of that club then, an english club should be owned by the english, take money in sponsership from over seas fair enough, but to put all your eggs in that basket seems fool hardy at best, the cinic in me tho thinks worse that foolish tho.
I dont wish to see the end of the club, as i know many people support them, and it is thier passion, as am i about sports i follow, but i do think greed has got the better of football these days, when you have players earning in a week more than most make in a year, then its not sustainable and will always come to an end, for better or worse i dont know.
But it wasnt asif the world couldnt see this situation coming for the last few years, so it was a bit nieve of the club tbh to have not got out before now |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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"It all very well continuing but with no money coming in they are going to run out of cash well before the end of season. Then what happens. Read somewhere that club wages for all staff is around £28m alone if the government is stopping them generating money then with the month they will have to cease trading.
They said on the radio they have very small cash reserves for a club of that size, either 17 or 27mil last accounts or something. "
If that is true then £28m a month means they can't afford to operate beyond one month.
Think they need to find a suitable buyer and for the government to approve the sale very quickly. |
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By *akie32Man
over a year ago
winchester |
"The Bank he works for has been told to cease operations. Which would mean, gif Chelsea, not fulfilling their fixtures?
I think they can sell at least a couple of layers for £?M. Wazza is relying on our U23's to keep us afloat "
they cant sell or buy players from what i understood |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
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"Looks like the government are open to another special licence to allow the sale of the club but without Abramavitch getting his hands on any proceeds.
Might be the best thing long term
Should be simple to arrange given he already said he didn’t want to keep the proceeds "
Yup. He said all profits where to help the victims of the war in Ukraine. This after years of always saying he isn't close to Putin and trying to live here permanently.
Yet they still blocked his money without a court case...
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"Hopefully this will signal the end of big finance (however dirty the money is) destroying the national game. I can still remember when Chelsea players had other jobs and would turn up to play on Saturday afternoons. The games were just as much fun to watch and support. And there was a much stronger local connection too which is just how clubs should be.
Sorry I completely disagree. Given the choice of watching Mickey Droy or Thiago Silva (and I've watched both play many times at the Bridge) I'll watch Silva please."
When you support a lower league team, you are still used to watching football very much as it was. We haven't got a hope in hell of ever making it too far up to the footballing tree because the silly money at the top is an obstacle. And please, no-one cite Leicester City as a little club made good. The last time Leicester City were in the 4th tier of English football was......NEVER! They were in the third tier league in 2008/09 but otherwise have never been outside the top two leagues of the day since their commencement in the FL. Conversely, my club have never been above the second tier of English football, ever. |
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"so it was a bit nieve of the club tbh to have not got out before now
How would they have done that when he owns them?  not hard, a take over bid etc, there are many ways"
That all assumes he wants to sell |
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By *akie32Man
over a year ago
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"so it was a bit nieve of the club tbh to have not got out before now
How would they have done that when he owns them? not hard, a take over bid etc, there are many ways
That all assumes he wants to sell"
he doesnt have to want to sell, im not into finance, but there are many times people have been pushed out of things they own, but i do get your point |
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In order for q team to be qble to operate in premiership it needs to meet very specific financial requirements.
Chelsea are about to lose a very big portion of there financial backing with further smaller reductions to follow ,they won't be able to pay share holders . And they will struggle to pay qnd hold onto players.
Chelsea are also financially linked as q corporation to multiple other cabals linked to the current issue.
Worst is many may other big organisations are going the same way over the next few months... |
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"The Bank he works for has been told to cease operations. Which would mean, gif Chelsea, not fulfilling their fixtures?
I think they can sell at least a couple of layers for £?M. Wazza is relying on our U23's to keep us afloat "
It's a worrying time for fans for sure the enormity of it all is hard to take on If we end up in league one at least that's better than having no team at all. |
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over a year ago
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"The Bank he works for has been told to cease operations. Which would mean, gif Chelsea, not fulfilling their fixtures?
I think they can sell at least a couple of layers for £?M. Wazza is relying on our U23's to keep us afloat It's a worrying time for fans for sure the enormity of it all is hard to take on If we end up in league one at least that's better than having no team at all. "
ok so i dont follow football, and know nothing about it, but why do you support a team hundereds of miles away, why not support derby fc, or what ever its called, did you just support them because they had a huge budget?, genuine
question as like i said i dont do football, i do follow sports and always follow my local teams/clubs etc, and if its a global sport follow english teams etc, always wandered this, and in no way a dig |
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"The Bank he works for has been told to cease operations. Which would mean, gif Chelsea, not fulfilling their fixtures?
I think they can sell at least a couple of layers for £?M. Wazza is relying on our U23's to keep us afloat It's a worrying time for fans for sure the enormity of it all is hard to take on If we end up in league one at least that's better than having no team at all.
ok so i dont follow football, and know nothing about it, but why do you support a team hundereds of miles away, why not support derby fc, or what ever its called, did you just support them because they had a huge budget?, genuine
question as like i said i dont do football, i do follow sports and always follow my local teams/clubs etc, and if its a global sport follow english teams etc, always wandered this, and in no way a dig "
He was talking about Derby County, Wakie. |
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"It all very well continuing but with no money coming in they are going to run out of cash well before the end of season. Then what happens. Read somewhere that club wages for all staff is around £28m alone if the government is stopping them generating money then with the month they will have to cease trading.
They said on the radio they have very small cash reserves for a club of that size, either 17 or 27mil last accounts or something.
If that is true then £28m a month means they can't afford to operate beyond one month.
Think they need to find a suitable buyer and for the government to approve the sale very quickly."
especially with sponsors now pulling out, I assume that's what they were operating on mostly. |
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over a year ago
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"The Bank he works for has been told to cease operations. Which would mean, gif Chelsea, not fulfilling their fixtures?
I think they can sell at least a couple of layers for £?M. Wazza is relying on our U23's to keep us afloat It's a worrying time for fans for sure the enormity of it all is hard to take on If we end up in league one at least that's better than having no team at all.
ok so i dont follow football, and know nothing about it, but why do you support a team hundereds of miles away, why not support derby fc, or what ever its called, did you just support them because they had a huge budget?, genuine
question as like i said i dont do football, i do follow sports and always follow my local teams/clubs etc, and if its a global sport follow english teams etc, always wandered this, and in no way a dig
He was talking about Derby County, Wakie."
never knew chelsea was in derby, every day is a school day |
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"In order for q team to be qble to operate in premiership it needs to meet very specific financial requirements.
Chelsea are about to lose a very big portion of there financial backing with further smaller reductions to follow ,they won't be able to pay share holders . And they will struggle to pay qnd hold onto players.
Chelsea are also financially linked as q corporation to multiple other cabals linked to the current issue.
Worst is many may other big organisations are going the same way over the next few months..."
What shareholders ? Abramovich owns 100% of the club. |
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In the part of London I grew up in, you was either a QPR, Brentford or Chelsea fan back then almost everyone I knew who was a Chelsea fan only went for one reason "to fight" Chelsea where pony and their approach to football was kickem up in the air style.
Suddenly ken Bates comes along a and spends some cash all the guy's who previously had little interest in the goings on ,on the actual pitch became pundits and experts.
Did they care where money came from?
Not a bit.
Fast forward to abramovich and once again nobody gave a crap where the money came from, and I would hazard a guess that if you where to ask the average fan if it bothered them where the money came from I bet a large percentage wouldn't care, they just want their club to be successful and probably every club with questionable owners the fans would probably say the same.
I for one wouldn't like to see football return to the dark days of the 70's and 80's.
And there are many many people in positions of power in the FA, premier League who turned a blind eye.
Do not don't see how it's fair that worker's and fans and Indeed the players should suffer as they haven't had a choice in it all.
Don't forget before abramovich took over Chelsea where close to going under.
Believe me nobody hate's Chelsea football club more than I but I would take no pleasure in seeing them go with under.
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"Doesn’t mean it can’t operate as a business, just that money can’t be taken out. Given that this is a business where money goes in instead, I don’t see a short term issue. Until transfer season, when they’ll have to sell some of their enormous selection of loan players to raise funds rather than get Roman to ferret in his pockets for a few million in change.
Full disclosure:Chelsea fan since ‘84"
“Money in”. Sponsors, PL and CL have all frozen payments.
Money out: the club was losing over 100m per annum before the sponsorship and tv money was stopped (in excess of a further 100m per annum).
No, it is not a “money in” business.
Sell players: they can’t, under the terms of the license
Number of players out of contact this summer: 9. |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue.
Stewarding and catering costs are covered under the special license so those folks will still be paid… it’s the club shop that will have to close
No away fans at Stamford bridge, no Chelsea fans at away games, no new contracts in or out, no transfers in or out
Yes I’m aware of that but with just over half the ground full, you won’t need as many stewards on match days or catering staff. Will their wages still be paid ?
Same with the shop and those that manage it online, no trade no jobs for the staff currently employed.
Chelsea will probably cover it under the wages costs agreed until end of season, for those no longer required. However, if this drags into next season, unlikely.
Everyone under the special license is covered till July 1st including all staffs wage’s… including all staff on the books whether they are required or not
Chelsea only gives 3k to away fans anyway… they also had the highest away fans prices anyway "
31 May, I thought? |
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"Let’s be honest it’s been coming for a while. I’ve a funny feeling this is just the start of it and won’t just stop at the Russian billionaires. "
Why? This situation is very much confined to Russians |
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"It all very well continuing but with no money coming in they are going to run out of cash well before the end of season. Then what happens. Read somewhere that club wages for all staff is around £28m alone if the government is stopping them generating money then with the month they will have to cease trading.
They said on the radio they have very small cash reserves for a club of that size, either 17 or 27mil last accounts or something. "
… because they run at a massive loss, and cash reserves are ripped up as part of the “loan”. |
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"It all very well continuing but with no money coming in they are going to run out of cash well before the end of season. Then what happens. Read somewhere that club wages for all staff is around £28m alone if the government is stopping them generating money then with the month they will have to cease trading.
They said on the radio they have very small cash reserves for a club of that size, either 17 or 27mil last accounts or something.
If that is true then £28m a month means they can't afford to operate beyond one month.
Think they need to find a suitable buyer and for the government to approve the sale very quickly."
The government deadline for ra to agree a sake is 31 May.
Once there has happened, I’m sure they will review the terms of the licence.
If he doesn’t agree a sale, the club will suffer massively. 9 players walk (as they are out of contract), can’t sign replacements, no sponsorship or tv money coming in … |
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One likely outcome, if a buyer can be found, is that the new owners will fund the purchase with debt (like glazers at Man U ), so Chelsea will be financing a couple of billion in debt, unlike the free loan that RA had propped up the club with. |
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So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians |
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians "
Step 1 is to make things very very clear, and to make certain that RA sells by 31 May. |
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians "
Given how Chelsea supporters are behaving at games at the moment, allowing more of them to attend games seems unlikely. Far more likely that things will move in the opposite direction for them. |
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"I might be being dumb here but, as I read it he can’t do business with UK individuals or businesses. So as long as the consortium who want to buy aren’t UK based, the sale of the club can go through but Roman won’t have any access to the money ?
BBC news have just explained that Chelsea cannot sell any more tickets, or merchandise or buy players etc. They can host people who already bought tickets (eg season ticket holders) and can allow external caterers to sell food to those ticket holders, but otherwise cannot trade at all. The currently employed players can be paid and can travel for matches but that's about it.
So, if Chelsea reach to the final of another cup competition, for example, they wouldn't be able to sell any tickets for it.
The knock on effect of this is those employed just for match days, stewards and alike or those in the shop 7 days a week. No sales, no away fabs, less home fans means not as many of them will be needed.
So yes RA deserves the sanctions but do those in his business need to suffer as a consequence and lose their income. Let him sell it but freeze the money from it, then the business can continue. "
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians
Given how Chelsea supporters are behaving at games at the moment, allowing more of them to attend games seems unlikely. Far more likely that things will move in the opposite direction for them. "
Maybe don't tar all of us with the same brush. I was at Norwich last night and I wasn't singing out Abramovich's name.
If that is the argument close the club down now. Can I also get the Luton fan who called me a terrorist cunt banned for life too? |
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians
Given how Chelsea supporters are behaving at games at the moment, allowing more of them to attend games seems unlikely. Far more likely that things will move in the opposite direction for them.
Maybe don't tar all of us with the same brush. I was at Norwich last night and I wasn't singing out Abramovich's name.
If that is the argument close the club down now. Can I also get the Luton fan who called me a terrorist cunt banned for life too?"
I’m not tarring anyone with any brushes, but it is a simple fact that some fans are singing RA’s name and it is not going to help the club.
I think it is a really sad situation that there is such uncertainty, and hopefully some clarity will emerge.
A sledgehammer is clearly being used to get RA out the door, and the damage being done to the club, fans, staff etc is seen as acceptable collateral damage.
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians
Given how Chelsea supporters are behaving at games at the moment, allowing more of them to attend games seems unlikely. Far more likely that things will move in the opposite direction for them.
Maybe don't tar all of us with the same brush. I was at Norwich last night and I wasn't singing out Abramovich's name.
If that is the argument close the club down now. Can I also get the Luton fan who called me a terrorist cunt banned for life too?"
That’s sad that you were abused in that way. Unacceptable. I hope you complained about this and I wish you the best of luck with the compliant. |
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s"
Who knows. Depends who the new owners are and how they finance the club.
If they find a other owner that simply racks up losses and pops them all into a fictitious “loan” on the balance sheet, then they can continue in the same way.
Or if a new owner pays a couple of billion for the club and finances it with a real loan on the balance sheet (like glazers / United), then they won’t have the same unlimited resources to pile into the team.
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s"
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ? |
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ?"
Take the average of the 80’s and 90’s and I think that’s probably what he was referring to.
I remember 97 /98 well, I lived in Chelsea at the time and often made the trip to Fulham to go to Chelsea matches . |
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians
Given how Chelsea supporters are behaving at games at the moment, allowing more of them to attend games seems unlikely. Far more likely that things will move in the opposite direction for them.
Maybe don't tar all of us with the same brush. I was at Norwich last night and I wasn't singing out Abramovich's name.
If that is the argument close the club down now. Can I also get the Luton fan who called me a terrorist cunt banned for life too?
That’s sad that you were abused in that way. Unacceptable. I hope you complained about this and I wish you the best of luck with the compliant. "
I did complain to a steward and the stewards listened to some very vile comments that night. I will tell you what though nothing was done about it by any of them.
Strange to be called a terrorist in Luton of all places. A certain irony.
I am used to being called names as Chelsea fan it is the sad thing of tribalism in football.
I don't chant nasty stuff at the opposition as I am not that way inclined. People didn't go to football not expecting to come home one Saturday. People didn't board a plane in Munich not expecting to get home. I have no respect for people who sing that vitriol.
However you go to any ground on a Saturday and there is crap flying from both sides.
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ?"
Probably referring to the whole 80s and early 90s days before Harding and his money when Chelsea were the Southampton/Brighton mid table fodder of the time |
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians
Given how Chelsea supporters are behaving at games at the moment, allowing more of them to attend games seems unlikely. Far more likely that things will move in the opposite direction for them.
Maybe don't tar all of us with the same brush. I was at Norwich last night and I wasn't singing out Abramovich's name.
If that is the argument close the club down now. Can I also get the Luton fan who called me a terrorist cunt banned for life too?
I’m not tarring anyone with any brushes, but it is a simple fact that some fans are singing RA’s name and it is not going to help the club.
I think it is a really sad situation that there is such uncertainty, and hopefully some clarity will emerge.
A sledgehammer is clearly being used to get RA out the door, and the damage being done to the club, fans, staff etc is seen as acceptable collateral damage.
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And you have just said the word "some" in your response!
I didn't sing his name as it is in poor taste and will not help any cause that Chelsea have at the moment to exist.
I have sat in Stamford Bridge and chanted his name when he used to be there on a Saturday. He has facilitated the good times at Chelsea that we have all enjoyed over the last 19 years.
All of us smiled when he got to stand on the pitch with the big eared cup.
I was proud to be a Chelsea fan when the hotels were opened straight away for the NHS. When we didn't apply for furlough, unlike over PL clubs.
Proud to know that when he arrived at SB and immediately said that no ambulant or non ambulant disabled fan should have to pay to attend a game. That unfortunately stopped over Covid as it was considered discrimination against the able bodied fans.
And I was proud to cheer on my team last night as Chelsea was there before Abramovich and fingers crossed we will still be there afterwards.
So I won't apologise for being a Chelsea fan.
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ? Probably referring to the whole 80s and early 90s days before Harding and his money when Chelsea were the Southampton/Brighton mid table fodder of the time"
If only Brighton were mid table fodder
This season is the closest we have come to it since Mike Bailey was manager in the early 80s. |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
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Why? This situation is very much confined to Russians "
Actually they are now talking about expanding the sanctions to friends and family of the alleged pro-Putin people.
That and Barclays just froze the bank accounts of the club. |
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over a year ago
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"In order for q team to be qble to operate in premiership it needs to meet very specific financial requirements.
Chelsea are about to lose a very big portion of there financial backing with further smaller reductions to follow ,they won't be able to pay share holders . And they will struggle to pay qnd hold onto players.
Chelsea are also financially linked as q corporation to multiple other cabals linked to the current issue.
Worst is many may other big organisations are going the same way over the next few months...
What shareholders ? Abramovich owns 100% of the club."
there will be share holders of the sub companies associated and tied to . And he has private shareholders whom invest in him and then him into Chelsea and the other buisness he has. Even though it says him on the cheques I think and would need to confirm, qbromovitch actually spreads costs over several folk whom are domicile in various countries for the purposes of tax and also purchase power.
Add to this, the advertising and media is public owned under licence too ,to remain in accordance with the legality of them being on broadcast |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
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Out of curiosity, are you serious?"
Yes.
Why do you want people banned for life from attending sporting events merely for chanting support to someone who isn't accused of any crimes as yet (the sanctions are in place due to suspicions and not a conviction). It's not like chanting support for child rapist (Sunderland did this), for convicted terrorists (Celtic), or many other things numerous clubs and their fans have done. |
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Out of curiosity, are you serious?
Yes.
Why do you want people banned for life from attending sporting events merely for chanting support to someone who isn't accused of any crimes as yet (the sanctions are in place due to suspicions and not a conviction). It's not like chanting support for child rapist (Sunderland did this), for convicted terrorists (Celtic), or many other things numerous clubs and their fans have done."
Any crimes as yet??? FFS |
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ?"
No I mean the days of Kerry Dixon and Pat nevin.. Jakob Kjeldberg and Craig Burley |
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ?
No I mean the days of Kerry Dixon and Pat nevin.. Jakob Kjeldberg and Craig Burley"
Pat Nevin would be a £50m player today |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
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Any crimes as yet??? FFS "
RA has always denied close links to Putin. There are no links to him funding the invasion as yet. If there is proof though, they should freeze everything. |
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Any crimes as yet??? FFS
RA has always denied close links to Putin. There are no links to him funding the invasion as yet. If there is proof though, they should freeze everything. "
Hardly likely to admit it is he? Almost akin to Vlad saying yeah I'm ordering genocide but don't tell anyone |
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Any crimes as yet??? FFS
RA has always denied close links to Putin. There are no links to him funding the invasion as yet. If there is proof though, they should freeze everything. "
Didn't he openly admit to funding his last campaign? |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
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Any crimes as yet??? FFS
RA has always denied close links to Putin. There are no links to him funding the invasion as yet. If there is proof though, they should freeze everything.
Didn't he openly admit to funding his last campaign?"
That wouldn't surprise me.
The sanctions though are due to a company he owns that is suspected as supplying steel for Russian tanks. |
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians
Given how Chelsea supporters are behaving at games at the moment, allowing more of them to attend games seems unlikely. Far more likely that things will move in the opposite direction for them.
Maybe don't tar all of us with the same brush. I was at Norwich last night and I wasn't singing out Abramovich's name.
If that is the argument close the club down now. Can I also get the Luton fan who called me a terrorist cunt banned for life too?
I’m not tarring anyone with any brushes, but it is a simple fact that some fans are singing RA’s name and it is not going to help the club.
I think it is a really sad situation that there is such uncertainty, and hopefully some clarity will emerge.
A sledgehammer is clearly being used to get RA out the door, and the damage being done to the club, fans, staff etc is seen as acceptable collateral damage.
And you have just said the word "some" in your response!
I didn't sing his name as it is in poor taste and will not help any cause that Chelsea have at the moment to exist.
I have sat in Stamford Bridge and chanted his name when he used to be there on a Saturday. He has facilitated the good times at Chelsea that we have all enjoyed over the last 19 years.
All of us smiled when he got to stand on the pitch with the big eared cup.
I was proud to be a Chelsea fan when the hotels were opened straight away for the NHS. When we didn't apply for furlough, unlike over PL clubs.
Proud to know that when he arrived at SB and immediately said that no ambulant or non ambulant disabled fan should have to pay to attend a game. That unfortunately stopped over Covid as it was considered discrimination against the able bodied fans.
And I was proud to cheer on my team last night as Chelsea was there before Abramovich and fingers crossed we will still be there afterwards.
So I won't apologise for being a Chelsea fan.
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Yes, “some” fans, as I said … I was very careful to say that.
Nobody is suggesting that you apologise for being a Chelsea fan. I certainly didn’t suffer that and I can’t see that anyone else did.
But some of the fans around you need a kick in the arse before they do any more damage to the club’s immediate prospects. . |
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"So Chelsea for the moment can no longer sell tickets or merchandise and make a profit, so why not let them sell at least tickets for games with the proceeds going to UK Ukrainian refugees or maybe Ukrainians refugees fleeing their homes that way the fans are not being punished and some help Ukrainians
Given how Chelsea supporters are behaving at games at the moment, allowing more of them to attend games seems unlikely. Far more likely that things will move in the opposite direction for them.
Maybe don't tar all of us with the same brush. I was at Norwich last night and I wasn't singing out Abramovich's name.
If that is the argument close the club down now. Can I also get the Luton fan who called me a terrorist cunt banned for life too?
I’m not tarring anyone with any brushes, but it is a simple fact that some fans are singing RA’s name and it is not going to help the club.
I think it is a really sad situation that there is such uncertainty, and hopefully some clarity will emerge.
A sledgehammer is clearly being used to get RA out the door, and the damage being done to the club, fans, staff etc is seen as acceptable collateral damage.
And you have just said the word "some" in your response!
I didn't sing his name as it is in poor taste and will not help any cause that Chelsea have at the moment to exist.
I have sat in Stamford Bridge and chanted his name when he used to be there on a Saturday. He has facilitated the good times at Chelsea that we have all enjoyed over the last 19 years.
All of us smiled when he got to stand on the pitch with the big eared cup.
I was proud to be a Chelsea fan when the hotels were opened straight away for the NHS. When we didn't apply for furlough, unlike over PL clubs.
Proud to know that when he arrived at SB and immediately said that no ambulant or non ambulant disabled fan should have to pay to attend a game. That unfortunately stopped over Covid as it was considered discrimination against the able bodied fans.
And I was proud to cheer on my team last night as Chelsea was there before Abramovich and fingers crossed we will still be there afterwards.
So I won't apologise for being a Chelsea fan.
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My understanding is that the oligarchs are Putin-appointed heads of industry who through his decree are wealthy beyond imagination.
They are powerful and enjoy a lavish lifestyle but only at his favour. They do not descent from his decisions because they will lose their wealth and power. That power though suppers Putin and allows him to continue burning state money for his own gains.
I don’t know what RA has or hasn’t done but I know from my own well-placed that he rolls around London like he’s immune from the law. If there is information that RA is involved in with Putin directly, either supporting him or supporting the war, I highly doubt that either of the two spy agencies would not know about it.
The question for me is not necessarily that he is in some way associated to Putin, I think that is obvious, but how loosely the U.K. Government want to interpret the sentences ‘involvement with Putin’ or ‘involvement in Ukraine’.
I am an Everton fan and I suspect the same thing is going to happen with Usmanov if it hasn’t already, so not that we need an excuse to be any sh*t will be losing most of our source of funding too. |
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"My understanding is that the oligarchs are Putin-appointed heads of industry who through his decree are wealthy beyond imagination.
They are powerful and enjoy a lavish lifestyle but only at his favour. They do not descent from his decisions because they will lose their wealth and power. That power though suppers Putin and allows him to continue burning state money for his own gains.
I don’t know what RA has or hasn’t done but I know from my own well-placed that he rolls around London like he’s immune from the law. If there is information that RA is involved in with Putin directly, either supporting him or supporting the war, I highly doubt that either of the two spy agencies would not know about it.
The question for me is not necessarily that he is in some way associated to Putin, I think that is obvious, but how loosely the U.K. Government want to interpret the sentences ‘involvement with Putin’ or ‘involvement in Ukraine’.
I am an Everton fan and I suspect the same thing is going to happen with Usmanov if it hasn’t already, so not that we need an excuse to be any sh*t will be losing most of our source of funding too."
Roman and other Oligarchs were rich long before Putin. |
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ?
No I mean the days of Kerry Dixon and Pat nevin.. Jakob Kjeldberg and Craig Burley
Pat Nevin would be a £50m player today"
went on to Everton who were bigger club at the time |
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ?
No I mean the days of Kerry Dixon and Pat nevin.. Jakob Kjeldberg and Craig Burley
Pat Nevin would be a £50m player today
went on to Everton who were bigger club at the time"
Then Tranmere for the swansong of his career. Was still a fucking good player, even then. I miss the TRFC teams of yore, but at least we won tonight  |
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"My understanding is that the oligarchs are Putin-appointed heads of industry who through his decree are wealthy beyond imagination.
They are powerful and enjoy a lavish lifestyle but only at his favour. They do not descent from his decisions because they will lose their wealth and power. That power though suppers Putin and allows him to continue burning state money for his own gains.
I don’t know what RA has or hasn’t done but I know from my own well-placed that he rolls around London like he’s immune from the law. If there is information that RA is involved in with Putin directly, either supporting him or supporting the war, I highly doubt that either of the two spy agencies would not know about it.
The question for me is not necessarily that he is in some way associated to Putin, I think that is obvious, but how loosely the U.K. Government want to interpret the sentences ‘involvement with Putin’ or ‘involvement in Ukraine’.
I am an Everton fan and I suspect the same thing is going to happen with Usmanov if it hasn’t already, so not that we need an excuse to be any sh*t will be losing most of our source of funding too.
Roman and other Oligarchs were rich long before Putin. "
True, but to remain rich and powerful, then need they need to be in his camp. Those that aren’t have seen the consequences, as we know.
One of my neighbours is a Russian billionaire who now lives in exile in the uk, having fallen foul of putin. |
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"they will go back to being average like in the 80s and 90s
You mean like when we averagely won the FA Cup in 1997, and the European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup in 1998 ?
That kind of average ?
No I mean the days of Kerry Dixon and Pat nevin.. Jakob Kjeldberg and Craig Burley
Pat Nevin would be a £50m player today
went on to Everton who were bigger club at the time
Then Tranmere for the swansong of his career. Was still a fucking good player, even then. I miss the TRFC teams of yore, but at least we won tonight "
I am Blackburn and I miss our old teams too obviously Chelsea were fodder to us in the old days.. beat them more often than not |
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