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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"Every door has a hinge or two containing bearings (wheels) then add all the wheels in motors and engines before you count wheels and there is only one winner."
Is it a wheel though? What defines things as specifically a wheel for this specific question, anything that covers a doorway could be counted as a door. A cat flap could be a door if we break it down. A curtain could essentially be viewed as a door.
As OP says advent calenders have doors (no bearing hinges). |
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By *rHotNotts OP Man
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Every door has a hinge or two containing bearings (wheels) then add all the wheels in motors and engines before you count wheels and there is only one winner."
Doors on millions of advent calendars don't have hinges. Bearings are not wheels.
Cruise ships have hundreds of doors and no wheels
Coffins have 2 doors
Every car has doors, but not many houses have wheels |
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"Every door has a hinge or two containing bearings (wheels) then add all the wheels in motors and engines before you count wheels and there is only one winner.
Is it a wheel though? What defines things as specifically a wheel for this specific question, anything that covers a doorway could be counted as a door. A cat flap could be a door if we break it down. A curtain could essentially be viewed as a door.
As OP says advent calenders have doors (no bearing hinges)."
It definitely needs precis definitions and scope, so that we are discussing the same things. |
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"The great social media debate. Which side are you on ? I’m doors, advent calendars has tipped it."
I agree - advent calendars are windows - not doors.  However - on balance I still think doors win. Just imagining how many doors there are in my building makes my head hurt!  |
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"The great social media debate. Which side are you on ? I’m doors, advent calendars has tipped it.
I agree - advent calendars are windows - not doors. However - on balance I still think doors win. Just imagining how many doors there are in my building makes my head hurt! "
Sorry - the above but was a nod to _ormorants post - then load more came after!  |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"I don't believe you can count advent calender doors. They're flaps, not doors!
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But windows and flaps are essentially doors, they are coverings that allow access to an area. A trapdoor is a door. |
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"And every car has 4 wheels a spare and a steering wheel and a shed load more in the engine…"
'a spare'?
Where have you been for the last twenty years or so. You will be lucky if they give you a can of inflating aerosol. |
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If a door is a surface hinged/articulated against another, then nature is cram full of them.
If a wheel is a surface rotating around an axle (and even if you include a bearing as a wheel) there are no natural examples.
Any creature with a circualtory or hydraulic system has multiple valves (doors). How many insects on the planet? Unless they each have shopping carts or office chairs, doors win hands down.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doors. My car, 6 wheels, 4 corners, a spare and the steering wheel. 4 doors.
My apartment. No wheels, 19 doors.
Doors for the win.
Winston
None of your furniture has a wheel or caster? "
Actually now you've said that, my telly stand has 6 wheels. Also, just realised I have 8 more doors than I counted. 
Winston |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm sorry, who said there's wheels in hinges and engines? Lol
Google it….
I don't need to Google it, I know there isn't
You clearly do
Very much no, I don't."
He's behind you! |
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"Eyelashes could be classified as doors, going by some perspectives on here. Hell, even eyes - think of all those insects doors"
Should have been eyelids. No arguments about insects lacking eyelids, of course |
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"I'm sorry, who said there's wheels in hinges and engines? Lol
Google it….
I don't need to Google it, I know there isn't
You clearly do
Very much no, I don't."
You might do... hinge leaf plate bends into a knuckle joint that rotates around a locking/central pin (or axle). High load hinges also have additional bearings and washers (more wheels). Engines have numerous gears, cogs, pullies, flywheels, washers and bearings. All wheels.
Still a *lot* more doors though... |
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"Eyelashes could be classified as doors, going by some perspectives on here. Hell, even eyes - think of all those insects doors
Should have been eyelids. No arguments about insects lacking eyelids, of course "
Tch. Everyone knows eyes are windows...
eyelids are doors by definition just like the ostia in an ants heart - avg 4 pairs of teeny tiny doors in each of the conserative estimate of 10¹5 ants - and before we count any other insects or creatures like mammals that have a lot more.
Doors rule. |
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By *avie65Man
over a year ago
In the west. |
"Has anyone mentioned toy cars and train sets. Loads of wheels and no doors.
Then there are real trains.
Those just have steps "
Wouldn't that make it a static caravan?
Aren't the doors on new trains at platform level? |
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By *for2Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Defo doors. Everywhere there are wheels there are also doors. But there's not always wheels where there are doors.
Bicycles. No doors. Half a billion bikes in china alone. "
That means half a billion people living in houses or apartments all with room doors, with cupboards with doors, white goods with doors etc. Not saying which is right just pointing out bike riders have doors as well as wheels |
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"Has anyone mentioned toy cars and train sets. Loads of wheels and no doors.
Then there are real trains.
Those just have steps
Wouldn't that make it a static caravan?
Aren't the doors on new trains at platform level?"
No, lots of platforms aren't the right height so still a step.
And in any case, how do you board trains with platforms at the bottom of steps (no lifts)? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Team Wheel right here. The lego argument is what's got me thinking wheels. Though what is the definition of a wheel and a door would obviously affect this decision. |
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"This being Fab we should probably include Labia as doors...
I thought they were flaps? E.g aeroplanes have wheels, doors AND flaps. "
Flaps on a plane do not articulate (close) against a fixed surface or sealed space. Labia majora and minora are there to protect/close off the urethra, vagina and clitoris. Perhaps french windows rather than a door. Agreed that individual styling may vary and most people do not lock them, but they certainly open when aroused |
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"The great social media debate. Which side are you on ? I’m doors, advent calendars has tipped it."
Wait a minute. What are we chasing as doors?
If we are saying advent calendars have doors
Then every cog in every machine, watch, toy, etc count as wheels
I’m going for wheels |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"The great social media debate. Which side are you on ? I’m doors, advent calendars has tipped it.
Wait a minute. What are we chasing as doors?
If we are saying advent calendars have doors
Then every cog in every machine, watch, toy, etc count as wheels
I’m going for wheels "
That's the problem isn't it. Does a cog count as a wheel due to it being well... Cog shaped. But does any kind of flap count as a door (because it technically is of you go far enough in to it).
The criteria and parameters set by the question are far too broad to even settle on an answer that could be defined. |
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By *avie65Man
over a year ago
In the west. |
"Has anyone mentioned toy cars and train sets. Loads of wheels and no doors.
Then there are real trains.
Those just have steps
Wouldn't that make it a static caravan?
Aren't the doors on new trains at platform level?
No, lots of platforms aren't the right height so still a step.
And in any case, how do you board trains with platforms at the bottom of steps (no lifts)? "
My local station installed lifts, a couple of years ago, to make the platform accessible to all. I thought they had to do it through the DDA legislation. |
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By *avie65Man
over a year ago
In the west. |
"The great social media debate. Which side are you on ? I’m doors, advent calendars has tipped it.
Wait a minute. What are we chasing as doors?
If we are saying advent calendars have doors
Then every cog in every machine, watch, toy, etc count as wheels
I’m going for wheels
That's the problem isn't it. Does a cog count as a wheel due to it being well... Cog shaped. But does any kind of flap count as a door (because it technically is of you go far enough in to it).
The criteria and parameters set by the question are far too broad to even settle on an answer that could be defined."
Gawd don't bring flaps into it!! |
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By *rHotNotts OP Man
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"The great social media debate. Which side are you on ? I’m doors, advent calendars has tipped it.
Wait a minute. What are we chasing as doors?
If we are saying advent calendars have doors
Then every cog in every machine, watch, toy, etc count as wheels
I’m going for wheels
That's the problem isn't it. Does a cog count as a wheel due to it being well... Cog shaped. But does any kind of flap count as a door (because it technically is of you go far enough in to it).
The criteria and parameters set by the question are far too broad to even settle on an answer that could be defined.
Gawd don't bring flaps into it!! "
If it’s called a wheel then it’s a wheel , a round biscuit clearly isn’t a wheel.
My advent calendar definitely has doors, as much as I’d love to open a different pair of flaps every day in December and eat something tasty from inside each , I can’t see it happening  |
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"The great social media debate. Which side are you on ? I’m doors, advent calendars has tipped it.
Wait a minute. What are we chasing as doors?
If we are saying advent calendars have doors
Then every cog in every machine, watch, toy, etc count as wheels
I’m going for wheels
That's the problem isn't it. Does a cog count as a wheel due to it being well... Cog shaped. But does any kind of flap count as a door (because it technically is of you go far enough in to it).
The criteria and parameters set by the question are far too broad to even settle on an answer that could be defined.
Gawd don't bring flaps into it!!
If it’s called a wheel then it’s a wheel , a round biscuit clearly isn’t a wheel.
My advent calendar definitely has doors, as much as I’d love to open a different pair of flaps every day in December and eat something tasty from inside each , I can’t see it happening "
...a round biscuit can be a wagon wheel - but it's still not a wheel, just like a rubber tyre off a car is not a wheel, its a tyre.
Cogs most definitely are wheels. They have axles (fixed or dynamic) and and can reduce friction or transfer energy. The teeth on a cog just assist grip. Think tread on your tyre but bigger.
Doors do not have to fit a human through to be a door - they are essentially a flap that prevents something from going somewhere when closed. |
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"Has anyone mentioned toy cars and train sets. Loads of wheels and no doors.
Then there are real trains.
Those just have steps
Wouldn't that make it a static caravan?
Aren't the doors on new trains at platform level?
No, lots of platforms aren't the right height so still a step.
And in any case, how do you board trains with platforms at the bottom of steps (no lifts)?
My local station installed lifts, a couple of years ago, to make the platform accessible to all. I thought they had to do it through the DDA legislation. "
Nope. No legal compulsion for train stations *shrug* |
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"This being Fab we should probably include Labia as doors...
I thought they were flaps? E.g aeroplanes have wheels, doors AND flaps.
Flaps on a plane do not articulate (close) against a fixed surface or sealed space. Labia majora and minora are there to protect/close off the urethra, vagina and clitoris. Perhaps french windows rather than a door. Agreed that individual styling may vary and most people do not lock them, but they certainly open when aroused "
My urethra and vaginal are not sealed spaces |
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By *avie65Man
over a year ago
In the west. |
"Has anyone mentioned toy cars and train sets. Loads of wheels and no doors.
Then there are real trains.
Those just have steps
Wouldn't that make it a static caravan?
Aren't the doors on new trains at platform level?
No, lots of platforms aren't the right height so still a step.
And in any case, how do you board trains with platforms at the bottom of steps (no lifts)?
My local station installed lifts, a couple of years ago, to make the platform accessible to all. I thought they had to do it through the DDA legislation.
Nope. No legal compulsion for train stations *shrug*"
That's utter bollocks. Inclusive society eh!!; |
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