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over a year ago
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"Headline in the Guardian caused by soaring petrol prices. Estimated that we will all be 2,500 pounds worse off this year. What will you sacrife to make ends meet. This is all over the news"
It's called life ,with petrol prices they way they are journeys that were taken for granted before may have to be curtailed but we are just after coming out of Covid restrictions for the last 23 months where we couldn't go anywhere so who knows ..but one things for sure fuel prices are very very high. |
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"Headline in the Guardian caused by soaring petrol prices. Estimated that we will all be 2,500 pounds worse off this year. What will you sacrife to make ends meet. This is all over the news"
I won’t be sacrificing anything. I live comfortably within my means, and only drive when I need to anyway. |
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"Don’t have a car so one cost I don’t need to think about. "
Unfortunately the rising cost of fuel has an impact on just about everything in our lives.
Production, distribution, public transport, council services the list goes on.
At least not having a car means you will have a buffer period before the costs start to filter down through the chain.
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"Don’t have a car so one cost I don’t need to think about.
Unfortunately the rising cost of fuel has an impact on just about everything in our lives.
Production, distribution, public transport, council services the list goes on.
At least not having a car means you will have a buffer period before the costs start to filter down through the chain.
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True and I can choose how much of that I wish to buy / use outside of taxes. |
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"Don’t have a car so one cost I don’t need to think about.
Unfortunately the rising cost of fuel has an impact on just about everything in our lives.
Production, distribution, public transport, council services the list goes on.
At least not having a car means you will have a buffer period before the costs start to filter down through the chain.
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Yes, it’s not just private motorists on the road, and they’re not all visiting granny. Commercial vehicles will see fuel costs increase and those costs turn up somewhere in our shopping basket or service costs.
Personally, if my costs going up is the cost of strangling Russia, I’m in. |
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"Don’t have a car so one cost I don’t need to think about.
Unfortunately the rising cost of fuel has an impact on just about everything in our lives.
Production, distribution, public transport, council services the list goes on.
At least not having a car means you will have a buffer period before the costs start to filter down through the chain.
Yes, it’s not just private motorists on the road, and they’re not all visiting granny. Commercial vehicles will see fuel costs increase and those costs turn up somewhere in our shopping basket or service costs.
Personally, if my costs going up is the cost of strangling Russia, I’m in. "
A level of discomfort to achieve a longer term gain.
I see the logic but those already on the edge of coping may not be in a position to absorb the level of expected increases.  |
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By *an1978Woman
over a year ago
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I don't mind cutting back for short term but I feel it won't go back down.
I don't drink or smoke or wear makeup so can't cut back there.
Travel less,
Reduced my phone contract to sim only.
Less takeaway/chippy.(normally once a week)
Plan my food shop better.
Boring things like that.
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.  "
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze. |
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"Don’t have a car so one cost I don’t need to think about.
Unfortunately the rising cost of fuel has an impact on just about everything in our lives.
Production, distribution, public transport, council services the list goes on.
At least not having a car means you will have a buffer period before the costs start to filter down through the chain.
Yes, it’s not just private motorists on the road, and they’re not all visiting granny. Commercial vehicles will see fuel costs increase and those costs turn up somewhere in our shopping basket or service costs.
Personally, if my costs going up is the cost of strangling Russia, I’m in.
A level of discomfort to achieve a longer term gain.
I see the logic but those already on the edge of coping may not be in a position to absorb the level of expected increases. "
Yeah I completely get that. If people are ok a budget then shocks like this will hurt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze. "
The same cabinet that have handed out Covid contracts to their mates to the sum of billions? Who have overseen austerity for a decade that's meant food bank use has increased by 3,800%? My statement stands. |
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By *lynJMan
over a year ago
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"Might not take out a expensive phone contract. Current one is £79 but ends next month. Il see if I can get it lower.
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Go for a sim only contract and buy a sim free phone (or stick with your existing phone). It's a lot cheaper. |
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze.
The same cabinet that have handed out Covid contracts to their mates to the sum of billions? Who have overseen austerity for a decade that's meant food bank use has increased by 3,800%? My statement stands. "
So does mine |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Might not take out a expensive phone contract. Current one is £79 but ends next month. Il see if I can get it lower.
Go for a sim only contract and buy a sim free phone (or stick with your existing phone). It's a lot cheaper."
I have SIMs from GiffGaff for my phone and my kids' phones. I've found it to be very reliable as well as low-cost. |
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze. "
Would that be the £8.7bn wasted on PPE contracts that were unsuitable that are now going to be burned to get rid of them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze.
Would that be the £8.7bn wasted on PPE contracts that were unsuitable that are now going to be burned to get rid of them? "
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze.
Would that be the £8.7bn wasted on PPE contracts that were unsuitable that are now going to be burned to get rid of them? "
I was thinking more of furlough and business support, which is where the big money went. Yes there was shocking waste too. |
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I worked out roughly will b £150 increase a month with energy rent food etc increase so will put up my 2 daughters keep by £50 and I'm getting pay rise to about the same amount a month so will absorb the costs OK! hopefully when they leave shall have to consider lodgers x |
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I’m looking at selling a few collectibles before the market for them drops. I’ll be reining in unnecessary spending, but probably investing in other bits and bobs after the market has dropped.
Start walking to work again probably.
We’re already pretty good at budgeting for food, not wasting stuff and reusing/recycling, so that will carry on as usual.
There’s a limit though, to what you can cut back before that starts to have a negative effect to those around you. I’ll still be getting my lunches at whatever of my regular cafés I’m passing though, for instance, those people still need to be able to earn a living too. |
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"I’m looking at selling a few collectibles before the market for them drops. I’ll be reining in unnecessary spending, but probably investing in other bits and bobs after the market has dropped.
Start walking to work again probably.
We’re already pretty good at budgeting for food, not wasting stuff and reusing/recycling, so that will carry on as usual.
There’s a limit though, to what you can cut back before that starts to have a negative effect to those around you. I’ll still be getting my lunches at whatever of my regular cafés I’m passing though, for instance, those people still need to be able to earn a living too. "
I know what you mean re going to cafes etc, I’m probability actually increasing my expenditure in local restaurants and shops. |
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"There’s a limit though, to what you can cut back before that starts to have a negative effect to those around you. I’ll still be getting my lunches at whatever of my regular cafés I’m passing though, for instance, those people still need to be able to earn a living too.
I know what you mean re going to cafes etc, I’m probability actually increasing my expenditure in local restaurants and shops. "
Absolutely. My job means that my breaks can be pretty much anywhere in the county, and I’m lucky that I’m paid for them, which I’ve never had in any of my previous jobs, so I’ve always felt comfortable paying for lunch.
But yes, if people don’t support local services, they disappear. |
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"There’s a limit though, to what you can cut back before that starts to have a negative effect to those around you. I’ll still be getting my lunches at whatever of my regular cafés I’m passing though, for instance, those people still need to be able to earn a living too.
I know what you mean re going to cafes etc, I’m probability actually increasing my expenditure in local restaurants and shops.
Absolutely. My job means that my breaks can be pretty much anywhere in the county, and I’m lucky that I’m paid for them, which I’ve never had in any of my previous jobs, so I’ve always felt comfortable paying for lunch.
But yes, if people don’t support local services, they disappear. "
One positive that has come from people working from home for so long is that local cafes etc are doing much better, at the expense of chain establishments in main cities. Eg new coffee shops in my high street, less coffee being bought in Canary Wharf |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks  |
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over a year ago
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
? A car might be an extra for you. It might be essential for others depending what they do or where they live. |
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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
How can you say "we" don't need cars? You might live somewhere that you can walk or get public transport to easily, but there are a hell of a lot of people who can't. There are also people who cannot use public transport for one reason of another. |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
My work is 30 miles from my home and my hometown doesn’t have a train station and I worked right through the lockdown without a break. |
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze.
The same cabinet that have handed out Covid contracts to their mates to the sum of billions? Who have overseen austerity for a decade that's meant food bank use has increased by 3,800%? My statement stands. "
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
Agreed have managed near on 65 years without a car! Use my cycle to get to work and back public transport when needed! Admittedly there will b some that can't do this but if honest few and far between! Look at the difference when in first lockdown? And I know alot wernt computing then but alot more people could ditch the car if they were honest x |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
without a car i have no way to act if im needed or i get my miracle so its my only real necessity |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
I need my car. Impossible for me not to have it. |
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze.
The same cabinet that have handed out Covid contracts to their mates to the sum of billions? Who have overseen austerity for a decade that's meant food bank use has increased by 3,800%? My statement stands. "
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
How can you say "we" don't need cars? You might live somewhere that you can walk or get public transport to easily, but there are a hell of a lot of people who can't. There are also people who cannot use public transport for one reason of another."
People might need transport but does everyone? Doing the school run, popping to the shops and making a lot of journeys that could easily be walked, not everyone but some.
Convenience is a hard habit to break, again not all some.... |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
Well done for you if you don't need a car. I do I live in a very rural area there is no transport links and I work over 10 miles from where I work. Not everyone lives in suburban areas or on transport routes.
And as for basic living that's the normal for a lot of people even before covid and a car is not a luxury it's a necessity for a lot of people. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Lots of people use their car instead of a five minute walk to the shop. I would like to see less cars on the road but also realize that we should be careful what we wish for. There are more than enough pushbikes on the road already and if their growth continues then rage and anger will increase exponentially...There are enough go pro vigilante cyclists on the road already |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
Well done for you if you don't need a car. I do I live in a very rural area there is no transport links and I work over 10 miles from where I work. Not everyone lives in suburban areas or on transport routes.
And as for basic living that's the normal for a lot of people even before covid and a car is not a luxury it's a necessity for a lot of people. "
Far too many cars are luxury items for people, 2, 3 or 4 car families exist and having a car seems to be a rite of passage.
If you need a car, you need a car but many don't. |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
Reading |
I am retired and yes drive a car. My hobby sea fishing. To get to where I go is about 1.5 hours drive. No chance to go by train or bus. But my main thought is the holiday industry in this country . With fuel prices this high . How many people will not be going to certain areas etc. Cost of fuel if gets higher and prices go up for food will all be added to how much extra for a holiday ? |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
Well done for you if you don't need a car. I do I live in a very rural area there is no transport links and I work over 10 miles from where I work. Not everyone lives in suburban areas or on transport routes.
And as for basic living that's the normal for a lot of people even before covid and a car is not a luxury it's a necessity for a lot of people.
Far too many cars are luxury items for people, 2, 3 or 4 car families exist and having a car seems to be a rite of passage.
If you need a car, you need a car but many don't."
Who are you to decide who needs a car and who doesn't. I know several families who have 3 or more cars. Everyone in those families work in different areas at different times and they all need their cars just because it is one household it does not mean the cars are a luxury. And they work and pay for their cars so I don't see why it's an issue even if they have cars for spinning about so what it's their life and their choice. A lot of people work damn hard and have little luxuries to enjoy, so if someone decides they want a car or whatever else then fair play to them for getting something that may being them some joy.I certainly won't begrudge someone it.Its been a crap few years for a lot of people and people deserve some happiness in their lives. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
Well done for you if you don't need a car. I do I live in a very rural area there is no transport links and I work over 10 miles from where I work. Not everyone lives in suburban areas or on transport routes.
And as for basic living that's the normal for a lot of people even before covid and a car is not a luxury it's a necessity for a lot of people.
Far too many cars are luxury items for people, 2, 3 or 4 car families exist and having a car seems to be a rite of passage.
If you need a car, you need a car but many don't.
Who are you to decide who needs a car and who doesn't. I know several families who have 3 or more cars. Everyone in those families work in different areas at different times and they all need their cars just because it is one household it does not mean the cars are a luxury. And they work and pay for their cars so I don't see why it's an issue even if they have cars for spinning about so what it's their life and their choice. A lot of people work damn hard and have little luxuries to enjoy, so if someone decides they want a car or whatever else then fair play to them for getting something that may being them some joy.I certainly won't begrudge someone it.Its been a crap few years for a lot of people and people deserve some happiness in their lives. "
I'm not deciding who does and does not need a car, I have said repeatedly, some need cars other don't. The context of the original post was cutting back, which I was on topic with, however you choose to become a little overbearing in your responses to me.
I have an opinion and I will voice that if I wish, and I will repeat, some people have cars as a luxury item and keeping on topic those items will cost more as prices rise.. I don't care if you and all the people you know are driving around for work or pleasure, you made that the issue, not me.
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"Lots of people use their car instead of a five minute walk to the shop. I would like to see less cars on the road but also realize that we should be careful what we wish for. There are more than enough pushbikes on the road already and if their growth continues then rage and anger will increase exponentially...There are enough go pro vigilante cyclists on the road already "
Well, no, if we were all on bikes there wouldn’t be any road rage, would there?
That’s how things used to work back in the 1940s. |
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"Lots of people use their car instead of a five minute walk to the shop. I would like to see less cars on the road but also realize that we should be careful what we wish for. There are more than enough pushbikes on the road already and if their growth continues then rage and anger will increase exponentially...There are enough go pro vigilante cyclists on the road already "
No there is not enough cycles on the road! But there are far to many cars on the roads! And the vehicle drivers shd b able to control their anger/rage! X
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
Well done for you if you don't need a car. I do I live in a very rural area there is no transport links and I work over 10 miles from where I work. Not everyone lives in suburban areas or on transport routes.
And as for basic living that's the normal for a lot of people even before covid and a car is not a luxury it's a necessity for a lot of people.
Far too many cars are luxury items for people, 2, 3 or 4 car families exist and having a car seems to be a rite of passage.
If you need a car, you need a car but many don't.
Who are you to decide who needs a car and who doesn't. I know several families who have 3 or more cars. Everyone in those families work in different areas at different times and they all need their cars just because it is one household it does not mean the cars are a luxury. And they work and pay for their cars so I don't see why it's an issue even if they have cars for spinning about so what it's their life and their choice. A lot of people work damn hard and have little luxuries to enjoy, so if someone decides they want a car or whatever else then fair play to them for getting something that may being them some joy.I certainly won't begrudge someone it.Its been a crap few years for a lot of people and people deserve some happiness in their lives.
I'm not deciding who does and does not need a car, I have said repeatedly, some need cars other don't. The context of the original post was cutting back, which I was on topic with, however you choose to become a little overbearing in your responses to me.
I have an opinion and I will voice that if I wish, and I will repeat, some people have cars as a luxury item and keeping on topic those items will cost more as prices rise.. I don't care if you and all the people you know are driving around for work or pleasure, you made that the issue, not me.
If you take offence to my opinion, tough "
I don't take offense at your opinion at all I was just questioning it as the way you phrased your opinion it sounded like you were demeaning those that do decide to keep cars because you decided you didn't need one anymore and like I said I don't begrudge people have some luxuries if they can afford it after the last few years.
You can voice whatever opinion you want that's the whole point of the forum's I'm not the only person who replied to you but I am the only one you decided to reply to which I find amusing more than anything else. As for over bearing you just seem annoyed I didn't agree with you but like you said it's a public forum and if you post saying that people don't need cars then you should expect people to not agree.
I think most people have cut back already on things and a lot more will have to with prices rising all the time .
Either way it's like everything else just an opinion and of course you can post whatever you like it doesn't bother me one way or the other and it certainly doesn't upset me  |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x |
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"Lots of people use their car instead of a five minute walk to the shop. I would like to see less cars on the road but also realize that we should be careful what we wish for. There are more than enough pushbikes on the road already and if their growth continues then rage and anger will increase exponentially...There are enough go pro vigilante cyclists on the road already
No there is not enough cycles on the road! But there are far to many cars on the roads! And the vehicle drivers shd b able to control their anger/rage! X
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Would be nice of cyclists could control their bikes! The standard of cycling around my way is abysmal, particularly at the weekend when the mamils go out.
And yes, there is zero excuse for road rage. I was waiting in traffic yesterday and I left space free for a motorist to come out of a side road. Arsehole behind me started leaning on his horn and giving me the finger because he was trying to turn left and had to wait a few seconds longer. Hazards on, stepped out do the car and went back to speak to him to see what he wanted. The guy shat himself. People get very brave behind the wheel sometimes ... same as keyboard warriors |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
Well done for you if you don't need a car. I do I live in a very rural area there is no transport links and I work over 10 miles from where I work. Not everyone lives in suburban areas or on transport routes.
And as for basic living that's the normal for a lot of people even before covid and a car is not a luxury it's a necessity for a lot of people.
Far too many cars are luxury items for people, 2, 3 or 4 car families exist and having a car seems to be a rite of passage.
If you need a car, you need a car but many don't.
Who are you to decide who needs a car and who doesn't. I know several families who have 3 or more cars. Everyone in those families work in different areas at different times and they all need their cars just because it is one household it does not mean the cars are a luxury. And they work and pay for their cars so I don't see why it's an issue even if they have cars for spinning about so what it's their life and their choice. A lot of people work damn hard and have little luxuries to enjoy, so if someone decides they want a car or whatever else then fair play to them for getting something that may being them some joy.I certainly won't begrudge someone it.Its been a crap few years for a lot of people and people deserve some happiness in their lives. "
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We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x"
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I don’t think that it matters whether you have one car as a necessity, or a dozen cars as toys. You can’t drive more than one at a time.
I think the point is that the rising cost of fuel, and other necessities, will force most people to reevaluate what’s “necessary” and what’s not. It’s the journeys that can be cut out or done other ways, not the car ownership that’s the problem. |
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We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x"
What do you mean? Yes I’ll go back to how it was. I worked through it. I didn’t get a year off or however long it was altogether. Why shouldn’t we go back to how it was as much as possible? |
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"Lots of people use their car instead of a five minute walk to the shop. I would like to see less cars on the road but also realize that we should be careful what we wish for. There are more than enough pushbikes on the road already and if their growth continues then rage and anger will increase exponentially...There are enough go pro vigilante cyclists on the road already
No there is not enough cycles on the road! But there are far to many cars on the roads! And the vehicle drivers shd b able to control their anger/rage! X
Would be nice of cyclists could control their bikes! The standard of cycling around my way is abysmal, particularly at the weekend when the mamils go out.
And yes, there is zero excuse for road rage. I was waiting in traffic yesterday and I left space free for a motorist to come out of a side road. Arsehole behind me started leaning on his horn and giving me the finger because he was trying to turn left and had to wait a few seconds longer. Hazards on, stepped out do the car and went back to speak to him to see what he wanted. The guy shat himself. People get very brave behind the wheel sometimes ... same as keyboard warriors "
Abysmal drivers round my way!
Works both ways for sure I see on a daily basis cars going through red lights ignoring zebra crossings cutting me up driving to close to me on my bycicle respect is needed from all road users ! X |
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We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things. "
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We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What do you mean? Yes I’ll go back to how it was. I worked through it. I didn’t get a year off or however long it was altogether. Why shouldn’t we go back to how it was as much as possible?"
Destroying the planet? Using aeroplanes/ cars did no one notice the difference? Clean air the dolphin's in Venice? Things need to change we can't go on the way we are?? X |
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We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What do you mean? Yes I’ll go back to how it was. I worked through it. I didn’t get a year off or however long it was altogether. Why shouldn’t we go back to how it was as much as possible?
Destroying the planet? Using aeroplanes/ cars did no one notice the difference? Clean air the dolphin's in Venice? Things need to change we can't go on the way we are?? X"
Ah right. I thought the thread was about sacrificing things as we’ll all be worse off. Fair enough I’m all for making things better that way. I can’t live my life without a car though. Impossible. |
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over a year ago
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze.
Would that be the £8.7bn wasted on PPE contracts that were unsuitable that are now going to be burned to get rid of them? "
Tip of the iceberg. Gov. either purposely gives money to friends or is so incompetent they take it off them. I’ve seen it across all sectors education, Heath etc hoe do you think Jeremy hunt became a millionaire , when he sold his company Hotcourse it’s only source of income was selling gov. data back to .gov, what a business model…. |
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By *otSoPoshWoman
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
How can you say "we" don't need cars? You might live somewhere that you can walk or get public transport to easily, but there are a hell of a lot of people who can't. There are also people who cannot use public transport for one reason of another.
People might need transport but does everyone? Doing the school run, popping to the shops and making a lot of journeys that could easily be walked, not everyone but some.
Convenience is a hard habit to break, again not all some.... "
In your first comment you said "we would all have learnt we don't need cars". Literally. It's right there. Quoted several times on the thread actually.
Some people could probably manage without their cars. And some of those people will probably manage without their cars. Some of them won't.
My life is a hell of a lot simpler with my car. Could I manage? Yes. Would it be more expensive? Actually yes. In time and money. |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What do you mean? Yes I’ll go back to how it was. I worked through it. I didn’t get a year off or however long it was altogether. Why shouldn’t we go back to how it was as much as possible?
Destroying the planet? Using aeroplanes/ cars did no one notice the difference? Clean air the dolphin's in Venice? Things need to change we can't go on the way we are?? X
Ah right. I thought the thread was about sacrificing things as we’ll all be worse off. Fair enough I’m all for making things better that way. I can’t live my life without a car though. Impossible. "
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"Lots of people use their car instead of a five minute walk to the shop. I would like to see less cars on the road but also realize that we should be careful what we wish for. There are more than enough pushbikes on the road already and if their growth continues then rage and anger will increase exponentially...There are enough go pro vigilante cyclists on the road already
No there is not enough cycles on the road! But there are far to many cars on the roads! And the vehicle drivers shd b able to control their anger/rage! X
Would be nice of cyclists could control their bikes! The standard of cycling around my way is abysmal, particularly at the weekend when the mamils go out.
And yes, there is zero excuse for road rage. I was waiting in traffic yesterday and I left space free for a motorist to come out of a side road. Arsehole behind me started leaning on his horn and giving me the finger because he was trying to turn left and had to wait a few seconds longer. Hazards on, stepped out do the car and went back to speak to him to see what he wanted. The guy shat himself. People get very brave behind the wheel sometimes ... same as keyboard warriors
Abysmal drivers round my way!
Works both ways for sure I see on a daily basis cars going through red lights ignoring zebra crossings cutting me up driving to close to me on my bycicle respect is needed from all road users ! X"
You say it cuts both ways, and then lay into motorists once again and say nothing about cyclists.
As someone who is both a cyclist and a motorist myself, I’m not going to claim that either group is perfect, but in general the standard of driving is higher than the standard of cycling, particularly at weekends.
And while I am sad to hear that motorists break the lights where you live, maybe take a look at where cyclists do! In my local town I see lights being broken every day, cyclists cycling the wrong direction, and cycling on footpaths. And cycling without lights in the dark. Every day, all of these things. |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X"
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
You might have sat on your arse doing Jack shit for however long it was but for some of us there was no lockdown.
Worked every day, used my car every day.
No other option when public transport is nonexistent.
15 miles to train station with no bus link.
The buses that run between the villages don’t run at times that will get people too and from work.
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What do you mean? Yes I’ll go back to how it was. I worked through it. I didn’t get a year off or however long it was altogether. Why shouldn’t we go back to how it was as much as possible?
Destroying the planet? Using aeroplanes/ cars did no one notice the difference? Clean air the dolphin's in Venice? Things need to change we can't go on the way we are?? X"
We can’t? Well, we can actually. Whether we should or not is a different matter.
I will be interested to see how many jobs remain remote /wfh, and whet impact that has. Hopefully significant. But most people can, and will, largely go back to their pre-covid lives. |
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By *an1978Woman
over a year ago
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
My work is 30 miles from my home and my hometown doesn’t have a train station and I worked right through the lockdown without a break. "
Same here, I live miles from shops, schools, work, all in different directions so a car is essential.
Public transport only runs in the daytime. And the bus from home to town leaves after the one from town to work. :/ |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What do you mean? Yes I’ll go back to how it was. I worked through it. I didn’t get a year off or however long it was altogether. Why shouldn’t we go back to how it was as much as possible?
Destroying the planet? Using aeroplanes/ cars did no one notice the difference? Clean air the dolphin's in Venice? Things need to change we can't go on the way we are?? X
We can’t? Well, we can actually. Whether we should or not is a different matter.
I will be interested to see how many jobs remain remote /wfh, and whet impact that has. Hopefully significant. But most people can, and will, largely go back to their pre-covid lives. "
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X
Really? In your previous post you said that there is “no hope@ in the world. And that’s glass half full? "
Yes it still remains half full but yes there is no hope surley u can see that?? X |
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"I'm a granny. I go to them on public transport.
I'm fortunate that my children didn't move far from me."
I see you presumably live within the benevolent London bus and train pass zone.
I live a few hundred yards outside it and lead a totally different life from my lucky friends in the zone. They can go wherever they want in London free of charge including by rail.
The bus pass I get in Kent is so pointless that I have never applied for one.
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I need my car. No car would mean no job and pretty much complete isolation from society. |
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over a year ago
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
I need my car. No car would mean no job and pretty much complete isolation from society. "
Can you work from home on the internet? |
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze. "
They spent less helping the entire country through Covid than Labour did bailing out a few failing banks ....
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
Got my walking boots on, I'm just heading off to work now, got an 8:30am start tomorrow morning... |
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over a year ago
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze.
They spent less helping the entire country through Covid than Labour did bailing out a few failing banks ....
Mr"
What would of happened if they just gave all that money to our citizens? |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X
Really? In your previous post you said that there is “no hope@ in the world. And that’s glass half full?
Yes it still remains half full but yes there is no hope surley u can see that?? X"
No, I don’t get it.
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“No hope” - massive pessimist
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"A lot of people will already be choosing between food and heat. We are headed for a poverty disaster with a cabinet of millionaires who don't GAF.
Don’t gaf? The same people who spent hundreds of billions helping us through the pandemic? I see
Yes, energy costs are going to cause a squeeze. I’m more hopeful than you that something will be done to alleviate that squeeze.
They spent less helping the entire country through Covid than Labour did bailing out a few failing banks ....
Mr
What would of happened if they just gave all that money to our citizens?"
Give us a load of money that we then owe back to ourselves via the national debt? |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X
Really? In your previous post you said that there is “no hope@ in the world. And that’s glass half full?
Yes it still remains half full but yes there is no hope surley u can see that?? X
No, I don’t get it.
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“No hope” - massive pessimist
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks "
I think this has to be one of the most ridiculous statement I've ever read on here. You really have no idea of how much some of us can't do without a vehicle. |
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"Up over 160p a litre now and rising .. where will this end?"
It’ll end when people stop buying it, and in the nature of supply/demand, the price drops again. |
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"Up over 160p a litre now and rising .. where will this end?
It’ll end when people stop buying it, and in the nature of supply/demand, the price drops again. "
Not in this case. The price increases are due to interruption of supply. |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X
Really? In your previous post you said that there is “no hope@ in the world. And that’s glass half full?
Yes it still remains half full but yes there is no hope surley u can see that?? X
No, I don’t get it.
Glass half full - optimist
“No hope” - massive pessimist
Maybe time to stop quizzing her then..."
Ty he seems to have some kind of beef with me not sure why but allways says something derogative or negative on what ever I post x |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X
Really? In your previous post you said that there is “no hope@ in the world. And that’s glass half full?
Yes it still remains half full but yes there is no hope surley u can see that?? X
No, I don’t get it.
Glass half full - optimist
“No hope” - massive pessimist
Maybe time to stop quizzing her then...
Ty he seems to have some kind of beef with me not sure why but allways says something derogative or negative on what ever I post x"
No, I don’t have a beef with you. When we disagree it tends to be because you are making out that all cyclists are perfectly behaved on the roads and all motorists are breaking the law, which is not quite what I see happening when I am cycling or driving.
And I am genuinely confused about the half glass full / “there is no hope” lines.
It’s ok to disagree, isn’t it? |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X
Really? In your previous post you said that there is “no hope@ in the world. And that’s glass half full?
Yes it still remains half full but yes there is no hope surley u can see that?? X
No, I don’t get it.
Glass half full - optimist
“No hope” - massive pessimist
Maybe time to stop quizzing her then..."
Not really. I am genuinely curious what she means, and am hoping she can explain. |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
I need my car. No car would mean no job and pretty much complete isolation from society.
Can you work from home on the internet? "
I can on some days of the week but not all. Currently 3 days in the college, 2 days at home. My job doesn't permit anything less in the college. |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X
Really? In your previous post you said that there is “no hope@ in the world. And that’s glass half full?
Yes it still remains half full but yes there is no hope surley u can see that?? X
No, I don’t get it.
Glass half full - optimist
“No hope” - massive pessimist
Maybe time to stop quizzing her then...
Not really. I am genuinely curious what she means, and am hoping she can explain. "
Time to leave her be. |
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Getting back on topic...
This year will be like every other year at the pumps.
Petrol goes up just before Mother's Day, just before Easter, just before May Day, just before Spring bank holiday ... ad public holiday and parental celebration nauseam.
So factor that in with the Putin's war induced rises as well. |
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"I thought we would all have learnt we don't need cars and all the extras after lockdown, nice to have but not necessary. Have we forgotten we were living very basic just a few months ago, or was I on my own with my cutbacks
We all knew people would go back to how it was pre covid because people are selfish ! There is really no hope for the world! And yes I include myself in the selfish human race x
What a grim assessment. I see things a bit more positively and notice when people do nice things.
Yes I notice when people do positive things for sure! Am a cup half full kinda person ! X
Really? In your previous post you said that there is “no hope@ in the world. And that’s glass half full?
Yes it still remains half full but yes there is no hope surley u can see that?? X
No, I don’t get it.
Glass half full - optimist
“No hope” - massive pessimist
Maybe time to stop quizzing her then...
Not really. I am genuinely curious what she means, and am hoping she can explain.
Time to leave her be. "
Ty I've decided not to interact with him anymore on any topic x |
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"Headline in the Guardian caused by soaring petrol prices. Estimated that we will all be 2,500 pounds worse off this year. What will you sacrife to make ends meet. This is all over the news
I won’t be sacrificing anything. I live comfortably within my means, and only drive when I need to anyway. "
Same here. Too many people spending money they don't have on things they don't need. |
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60 mile round trip to the nearest supermarket now has us planning very carefully so that we only need to go shopping once a month. Son and his family live way down south near Canterbury so not going that way anytime soon. Electric bills now a third higher, so no central heating, burning a lot more scrap wood and peat. Another multi fuel stove in the lounge. The hits just keep coming. |
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"Headline in the Guardian caused by soaring petrol prices. Estimated that we will all be 2,500 pounds worse off this year. What will you sacrife to make ends meet. This is all over the news
I won’t be sacrificing anything. I live comfortably within my means, and only drive when I need to anyway.
Same here. Too many people spending money they don't have on things they don't need."
Well as long as you're ok. Obviously any financial hardship suffered by anyone else will be their fault...  |
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"60 mile round trip to the nearest supermarket now has us planning very carefully so that we only need to go shopping once a month. Son and his family live way down south near Canterbury so not going that way anytime soon. Electric bills now a third higher, so no central heating, burning a lot more scrap wood and peat. Another multi fuel stove in the lounge. The hits just keep coming."
Could u get shopping delivered? X |
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it’s halfway through the week and I’m already £70 in my overdraft 
