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"It's disgusting that only 50 visas have been given. "
It is shameful.
The government continue to spout that they are leading the way in sanctions against Putin and it is a pile of bollocks
The Conservative party have been bought by dirty Russian money |
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"It's disgusting that only 50 visas have been given.
It is shameful.
The government continue to spout that they are leading the way in sanctions against Putin and it is a pile of bollocks
The Conservative party have been bought by dirty Russian money "
I agree and I genuinely believe we should be taking refugees as well as those who have family members living here. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
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But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken. "
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions. "
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly. "
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
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Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on ! |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly. "
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK |
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on ! "
Poland is next door |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
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If you had read my post you would have read that I said in Europe Syria is not in Europe.
Add yes I believe we should have taken more Syrian refugees as well. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK "
You implied it when you mentioned people who voted for brexit. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on ! "
If we were a neighbouring country it would be similar. Each country has their visa rules, ours have been adapted to allow additional family member groups to join those already in UK. |
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By *rad670Man
over a year ago
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Unfortunately for them the Ukranian refugees are choosing to enter via a legal route and will face a delay unlike the many who enter illegally and clog up a now much needed haven for genuine refugees, I think they should be given immediate refuge without delays as there is doubting their need. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How come our government cannot pull their finger out and help more?
It makes me ashamed of our government when I see how poorly they have responded to this massive crisis. "
tried my best but tbere u go and even Shoutthe Owners ofF FAB 9 |
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"Unfortunately for them the Ukranian refugees are choosing to enter via a legal route and will face a delay unlike the many who enter illegally and clog up a now much needed haven for genuine refugees, I think they should be given immediate refuge without delays as there is doubting their need."
This. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK
You implied it when you mentioned people who voted for brexit. "
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Tighter boarder controls yes with brexit, there wasn’t any stipulations but if war occurs drop every check. War unfortunately happens all the time around the world, so should we freely drop all checks for people entering from all those countries ? |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Poland is next door "
Whilst Poland is on the doorstep and an obvious place to seek refuge immediately, it is totally unrealistic to expect them to handle the numbers required.
We must all pull together to accommodate those fleeing persecution. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK
You implied it when you mentioned people who voted for brexit. .
Tighter boarder controls yes with brexit, there wasn’t any stipulations but if war occurs drop every check. War unfortunately happens all the time around the world, so should we freely drop all checks for people entering from all those countries ? "
Other countries around the world have done this without additional checks, why can't we?
It's pretty obvious what the need is and that it's immediate. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK
You implied it when you mentioned people who voted for brexit. .
Tighter boarder controls yes with brexit, there wasn’t any stipulations but if war occurs drop every check. War unfortunately happens all the time around the world, so should we freely drop all checks for people entering from all those countries ?
Other countries around the world have done this without additional checks, why can't we?
It's pretty obvious what the need is and that it's immediate. "
So you would quite happily let any individual in from any country with no documentation to prove who they are, citizenship, just because they say they are fleeing a war zone and a refugee ? Really ? |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK
You implied it when you mentioned people who voted for brexit. .
Tighter boarder controls yes with brexit, there wasn’t any stipulations but if war occurs drop every check. War unfortunately happens all the time around the world, so should we freely drop all checks for people entering from all those countries ?
Other countries around the world have done this without additional checks, why can't we?
It's pretty obvious what the need is and that it's immediate.
So you would quite happily let any individual in from any country with no documentation to prove who they are, citizenship, just because they say they are fleeing a war zone and a refugee ? Really ? "
Yes really anybody from Ukraine should be fast tracked! I can't believe anybody would think differently. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK
You implied it when you mentioned people who voted for brexit. .
Tighter boarder controls yes with brexit, there wasn’t any stipulations but if war occurs drop every check. War unfortunately happens all the time around the world, so should we freely drop all checks for people entering from all those countries ?
Other countries around the world have done this without additional checks, why can't we?
It's pretty obvious what the need is and that it's immediate.
So you would quite happily let any individual in from any country with no documentation to prove who they are, citizenship, just because they say they are fleeing a war zone and a refugee ? Really ?
Yes really anybody from Ukraine should be fast tracked! I can't believe anybody would think differently. "
Even without documentation? That could be any individual who can speak Ukrainian, even Russians just because they say they are from there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Isn't one of the reasons for the checks to ensure that Russian agents don't come in pretending to be Ukranian and start dropping Novochok at world famous landmarks again? |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Poland is next door
Whilst Poland is on the doorstep and an obvious place to seek refuge immediately, it is totally unrealistic to expect them to handle the numbers required.
We must all pull together to accommodate those fleeing persecution. "
Poland already accommodated over a million or Ukrainians. Mostly women and children. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Poland is next door
Whilst Poland is on the doorstep and an obvious place to seek refuge immediately, it is totally unrealistic to expect them to handle the numbers required.
We must all pull together to accommodate those fleeing persecution.
Poland already accommodated over a million or Ukrainians. Mostly women and children. "
And Poland accepts Ukrainians without any documents too. It takes longer to confirm their identity, but they can cross the border. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Poland is next door
Whilst Poland is on the doorstep and an obvious place to seek refuge immediately, it is totally unrealistic to expect them to handle the numbers required.
We must all pull together to accommodate those fleeing persecution.
Poland already accommodated over a million or Ukrainians. Mostly women and children.
And Poland accepts Ukrainians without any documents too. It takes longer to confirm their identity, but they can cross the border. "
Absolutely and once their Identity has been checked I seriously do not understand why there cannot be plans in place for other countries to take these people. |
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Yes really anybody from Ukraine should be fast tracked! I can't believe anybody would think differently. "
Whilst I’m sure most people would share this sentiment I think it is unrealistic to think that there aren’t people out there who will take advantage of the opportunity to exploit the situation to their advantage.
That’s not to say things shouldn’t be done as expeditiously as practical.
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Poland is next door
Whilst Poland is on the doorstep and an obvious place to seek refuge immediately, it is totally unrealistic to expect them to handle the numbers required.
We must all pull together to accommodate those fleeing persecution.
Poland already accommodated over a million or Ukrainians. Mostly women and children.
And Poland accepts Ukrainians without any documents too. It takes longer to confirm their identity, but they can cross the border.
Absolutely and once their Identity has been checked I seriously do not understand why there cannot be plans in place for other countries to take these people. "
But even if any country can't accommodate them, poor people we can donate some money or goods they need. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK
You implied it when you mentioned people who voted for brexit. .
Tighter boarder controls yes with brexit, there wasn’t any stipulations but if war occurs drop every check. War unfortunately happens all the time around the world, so should we freely drop all checks for people entering from all those countries ?
Other countries around the world have done this without additional checks, why can't we?
It's pretty obvious what the need is and that it's immediate.
So you would quite happily let any individual in from any country with no documentation to prove who they are, citizenship, just because they say they are fleeing a war zone and a refugee ? Really ?
Yes really anybody from Ukraine should be fast tracked! I can't believe anybody would think differently.
Even without documentation? That could be any individual who can speak Ukrainian, even Russians just because they say they are from there. "
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
Mr
If you had read my post you would have read that I said in Europe Syria is not in Europe.
Add yes I believe we should have taken more Syrian refugees as well. "
I did read your post, you said "I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe" to which I replied "
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?"
It is my belief that many people did vote for Brexit for tighter controls on people fleeing from war zones, albeit not European ones. Personally, I can't see the difference between people fleeing a war zone in Europe and those fleeing one in the middle East, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else. I'm not sure what the relevance of this particular war zone being European is to anyone but a racist.
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Poland is next door
Whilst Poland is on the doorstep and an obvious place to seek refuge immediately, it is totally unrealistic to expect them to handle the numbers required.
We must all pull together to accommodate those fleeing persecution.
Poland already accommodated over a million or Ukrainians. Mostly women and children. "
It is slightly different for Poland, they share a border. Anyone crossing the border from Ukraine into Poland is by definition fleeing a war.
Incidentally, I totally agree we should do more. Then again, you'll find threads I've posted on defending those crossing the channel in open dinghys. Its funny how because the war is reported daily we can understand the plight of these people and believe we should open our arms and accept one and all. When the war is in South Sudan, or Syria, or Lebanon or Mali or anywhere else the stock answer is slightly different. Usually its along the lines of they've crossed all of Europe which is safe, why do they need to come here? They just want to sponge off our welfare system or, they're not refugees, they're economic migrants ...
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
Mr
If you had read my post you would have read that I said in Europe Syria is not in Europe.
Add yes I believe we should have taken more Syrian refugees as well.
I did read your post, you said "I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe" to which I replied "
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?"
It is my belief that many people did vote for Brexit for tighter controls on people fleeing from war zones, albeit not European ones. Personally, I can't see the difference between people fleeing a war zone in Europe and those fleeing one in the middle East, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else. I'm not sure what the relevance of this particular war zone being European is to anyone but a racist.
Mr"
I don't appreciate the insinuation and I think people need to be very careful with their words.
My point was I don't think brexit has any relevance. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Poland is next door
Whilst Poland is on the doorstep and an obvious place to seek refuge immediately, it is totally unrealistic to expect them to handle the numbers required.
We must all pull together to accommodate those fleeing persecution.
Poland already accommodated over a million or Ukrainians. Mostly women and children. "
And many of them are actually accommodated in people's house who open their doors to them. Not at refugee camps journalists from other countries enquired about recently heh. There is a limit. Its temporary solution. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Poland is next door
Whilst Poland is on the doorstep and an obvious place to seek refuge immediately, it is totally unrealistic to expect them to handle the numbers required.
We must all pull together to accommodate those fleeing persecution.
Poland already accommodated over a million or Ukrainians. Mostly women and children.
And many of them are actually accommodated in people's house who open their doors to them. Not at refugee camps journalists from other countries enquired about recently heh. There is a limit. Its temporary solution. "
Absolutely.
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over a year ago
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
Mr"
Exactly, with many more children killed but much bigger Russian weaponry |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
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Exactly, with many more children killed but much bigger Russian weaponry "
I'm not sure what you mean because I think we should take far more refugees in this country regardless of where they are from.
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Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on ! "
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought "
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine? |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine? "
Strawman since that’s just speculation
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones? "
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones?
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
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That doesn’t seem like evidence to me. You’ve just stated something
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones?
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
That doesn’t seem like evidence to me. You’ve just stated something
Do you have anything to back it up? "
Have you asked the poster I was replying to the same question about their statement?
Anyway a quick Google will tell you that The majority of 1000 Calais trying to get to the UK come from countries such as Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, Libya. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones?
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
That doesn’t seem like evidence to me. You’ve just stated something
Do you have anything to back it up?
Have you asked the poster I was replying to the same question about their statement?
Anyway a quick Google will tell you that The majority of 1000 Calais trying to get to the UK come from countries such as Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, Libya."
No I haven’t, I asked you and still not really had anything
I dunno, that’s why I’m asking, and I haven’t been convinced |
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I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones?
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
That doesn’t seem like evidence to me. You’ve just stated something
Do you have anything to back it up?
Have you asked the poster I was replying to the same question about their statement?
Anyway a quick Google will tell you that The majority of 1000 Calais trying to get to the UK come from countries such as Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, Libya.
No I haven’t, I asked you and still not really had anything
I dunno, that’s why I’m asking, and I haven’t been convinced "
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones?
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
That doesn’t seem like evidence to me. You’ve just stated something
Do you have anything to back it up?
Have you asked the poster I was replying to the same question about their statement?
Anyway a quick Google will tell you that The majority of 1000 Calais trying to get to the UK come from countries such as Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, Libya.
No I haven’t, I asked you and still not really had anything
I dunno, that’s why I’m asking, and I haven’t been convinced
I've just told you. It's entirely up to you whether you research that further. "
I’ll remain unconvinced then and by logic, assume the vast majority aren’t |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room "
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
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We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
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It's the only options available.
Die in a warzone, or stay at this person's house. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones?
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
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I don’t have any evidence. That’s why I started my post with maybe and ended it with just a thought.
If I did have evidence then I would have posted it as a fact but I didn’t. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones?
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
I don’t have any evidence. That’s why I started my post with maybe and ended it with just a thought.
If I did have evidence then I would have posted it as a fact but I didn’t. "
That’s why I didn’t question you
It also makes sense that during a crisis that economic migrates would try to take advantage of the situation
You also didn’t call the “vast majority” was anything without proof. You just put an idea out there
I dunno enough about the situation to make a firm decision, but I know for a fact that during a crisis people will try to take advantage. So I’d imagine the UK is taking a little longer to sort out who needs the help and who’s just trying to slide through |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
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"How come our government cannot pull their finger out and help more?
It makes me ashamed of our government when I see how poorly they have responded to this massive crisis. "
Because it would upset the far right and RussiN Oligarchs that pay their wage. |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken. "
This has been going on four over a fortnight. Other countries have got systems in place far sooner |
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People value other's lives on where they live and it's a sad thing. They pick and choose which individuals are worthy of immigration status when we are all the same.
I hope the people who are unwelcoming to Ukranian people have the same attitude if this country ever meets the same fate. Don't be quick to dismiss the one's in need, next time it might be you reaching for that helping hand. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
Mr
If you had read my post you would have read that I said in Europe Syria is not in Europe.
Add yes I believe we should have taken more Syrian refugees as well.
I did read your post, you said "I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe" to which I replied "
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?"
It is my belief that many people did vote for Brexit for tighter controls on people fleeing from war zones, albeit not European ones. Personally, I can't see the difference between people fleeing a war zone in Europe and those fleeing one in the middle East, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else. I'm not sure what the relevance of this particular war zone being European is to anyone but a racist.
Mr
I don't appreciate the insinuation and I think people need to be very careful with their words.
My point was I don't think brexit has any relevance. "
There's no insinuation whatsoever. I'll make it clearer. The difference between a refugee from a European war zone and (for example) an African one is only of relevance to a racist. I'm not saying or implying you are a racist, you appear to be discussing what (some) Brexit voters thought which isn't the same as what you think - only you know that.
I know for a fact that there were people who voted for Brexit as a way of dealing with the immigrant crises - I know this as I've worked with many who have outright told me this is the case. Now we can play with words and give these people different labels - economic migrants, illegal immigrants etc but to my mind, there is absolutely no difference between fleeing Russian artillery in Ukrain or in Syria (which was the state of origin of many trying to get to the UK during the Brexit campaign)
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
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Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day "
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
Mr
Exactly, with many more children killed but much bigger Russian weaponry
I'm not sure what you mean because I think we should take far more refugees in this country regardless of where they are from.
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Of course we should , but compare the media response to other wars. |
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"How come our government cannot pull their finger out and help more?
It makes me ashamed of our government when I see how poorly they have responded to this massive crisis. "
I agree but let the illegal ones live here makes no sense and refugees from Syria who are probably terrorists |
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"How come our government cannot pull their finger out and help more?
It makes me ashamed of our government when I see how poorly they have responded to this massive crisis.
I agree but let the illegal ones live here makes no sense and refugees from Syria who are probably terrorists "
Sadly a large portion of the country are as confused/heartless as this.
Welcome to post brexit Britain. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens. "
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
Poland already have over a million.
The war has been raging for over a week.
Why has it only been open 48 hours?
Come on !
Maybe because all those in Calais will use the Ukrainian crisis to get into the uk when a lot of them are economic migrants so checks need to be made to ensure the help is going to the correct people?? Just a thought
The vast majority of the refugees in Calais are from other war zones around the world so are the correct people. What's the difference between somebody from Afghanistan who has family in the UK and trying to get here and someone from Ukraine?
Strawman since that’s just speculation
What proof do you have that the “vast majority” are from war zones?
The very fact of the country that the majority of people in the Calais camps currently are.
What evidence do you have that they are economic migrants?
That doesn’t seem like evidence to me. You’ve just stated something
Do you have anything to back it up?
Have you asked the poster I was replying to the same question about their statement?
Anyway a quick Google will tell you that The majority of 1000 Calais trying to get to the UK come from countries such as Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, Libya.
No I haven’t, I asked you and still not really had anything
I dunno, that’s why I’m asking, and I haven’t been convinced
I've just told you. It's entirely up to you whether you research that further.
I’ll remain unconvinced then and by logic, assume the vast majority aren’t "
I can't paste the link but this is from Care4Calais, a charity.
"More than half of refugees globally came from three countries: Syria, Afghanistan and South Sudan.
These are all countries that have been ravaged by war in recent years, leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians. It is this immediate danger to life, human rights violations, and humanitarian catastrophe that is forcibly driving refugees out of their country of origin." |
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"How come our government cannot pull their finger out and help more?
It makes me ashamed of our government when I see how poorly they have responded to this massive crisis.
I agree but let the illegal ones live here makes no sense and refugees from Syria who are probably terrorists "
That's one of the most disgusting statements I've ever read here. You should be ashamed of yourself. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC"
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain"
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday) |
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It's a shocking disgrace that we have currently only taken 50 people as Ireland which is tiny in comparison to the UK have already taken over 600. So yes I get that the countries that are neighbouring are getting the majority it does not stop countries further afield from being welcoming and taking these people in. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday) "
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment. |
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We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment. "
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time. "
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't? |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't?"
Because they’ve waived applying for a visa before entering, we haven’t. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't?
Because they’ve waived applying for a visa before entering, we haven’t. "
Exactly and we should. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time. "
Ireland haven't made it as difficult as the UK seems to be doing even for family members. And I thought they were offering to take 2% of all Ukrainian refugees? |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Ireland haven't made it as difficult as the UK seems to be doing even for family members. And I thought they were offering to take 2% of all Ukrainian refugees? "
Not sure of the number, however as part of the EU they will be part of that group’s coordinated effort to house refugees when it is worked out. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't?
Because they’ve waived applying for a visa before entering, we haven’t.
Exactly and we should. "
This conversation was had last night, the reasons explained, just as we’ve always had them in place for other nationals fleeing war. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't?
Because they’ve waived applying for a visa before entering, we haven’t.
Exactly and we should.
This conversation was had last night, the reasons explained, just as we’ve always had them in place for other nationals fleeing war. "
It doesn't mean I have to agree with you or the reasons that you outlined. Still an outrage. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Ireland haven't made it as difficult as the UK seems to be doing even for family members. And I thought they were offering to take 2% of all Ukrainian refugees?
Not sure of the number, however as part of the EU they will be part of that group’s coordinated effort to house refugees when it is worked out. "
The number agreed is 20,000 and the number they have already taken is 600. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't?
Because they’ve waived applying for a visa before entering, we haven’t.
Exactly and we should.
This conversation was had last night, the reasons explained, just as we’ve always had them in place for other nationals fleeing war.
It doesn't mean I have to agree with you or the reasons that you outlined. Still an outrage. "
No you don’t, but procedures are there for a reason and a good one. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't?
Because they’ve waived applying for a visa before entering, we haven’t.
Exactly and we should.
This conversation was had last night, the reasons explained, just as we’ve always had them in place for other nationals fleeing war.
It doesn't mean I have to agree with you or the reasons that you outlined. Still an outrage.
No you don’t, but procedures are there for a reason and a good one. "
Countries all around the world have suspended their Visa system for Ukrainian citizens and their reasons for not so would be as valid as ours yet they have decided to be humanitarian. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Ireland haven't made it as difficult as the UK seems to be doing even for family members. And I thought they were offering to take 2% of all Ukrainian refugees?
Not sure of the number, however as part of the EU they will be part of that group’s coordinated effort to house refugees when it is worked out.
The number agreed is 20,000 and the number they have already taken is 600. "
Wrong they’ve agreed 200,000 |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't?
Because they’ve waived applying for a visa before entering, we haven’t.
Exactly and we should.
This conversation was had last night, the reasons explained, just as we’ve always had them in place for other nationals fleeing war.
It doesn't mean I have to agree with you or the reasons that you outlined. Still an outrage.
No you don’t, but procedures are there for a reason and a good one.
Countries all around the world have suspended their Visa system for Ukrainian citizens and their reasons for not so would be as valid as ours yet they have decided to be humanitarian. "
Not as many as you think. We aren’t going to agree on this so let’s just leave it there, you have your thoughts, I have mine on the process. |
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Ireland haven't made it as difficult as the UK seems to be doing even for family members. And I thought they were offering to take 2% of all Ukrainian refugees?
Not sure of the number, however as part of the EU they will be part of that group’s coordinated effort to house refugees when it is worked out.
The number agreed is 20,000 and the number they have already taken is 600.
Wrong they’ve agreed 200,000 "
Ireland haven't
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"I hope it works out for Ukrainians but why are brits expected to help so much? There’s literally wars and refugees around the world what makes Ukraine so special that I should give up my spare room
We hardly help at all in any refugee crisis. Also who is asking you to give up your spare Room?
Well we’ve opened the door to 200,000 of em. My point is why them and not others whose been fleeing war torn countries, and the spare room got the radio is asking all day
We've opened the door to 200,000 of who?
Currently only 50 visas have been given to Ukrainian citizens.
Our government has promised to help 200,000 although only processed 50 visa’s all the info is online I heard it on LBC
To be more precise the home office will allow up to 200,000 Ukrainians who have family in the UK to enter. If they actually let them in, or it's just an empty promise will become clear. They haven't said they will take any more refugees. As Poland, France and Germany are taking in their thousands.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/uk-to-relax-visa-rules-for-extended-family-of-ukrainians-in-britain
They going in their thousands to the countries you mentioned as, one it is the mainland easier to get too and a safe area to figure out their next step, where to apply to move to; and two they don’t need a visa under the Schengen area scheme for up to 90 days (which was extended yesterday)
Ireland is not mainland and has waived visas for those fleeing Ukraine. I think it will end up just as it did for Syrians. The UK barely even took any lone child refugees despite the Dubs amendment.
It is has waived the process of applying a visa initially yes, but still only relates to certain individuals, ie family members of those already in Ireland who will still need to prove who they are within a set time.
Which is the same procedure for here so why has Ireland been able to act so fast and we haven't?
Because they’ve waived applying for a visa before entering, we haven’t.
Exactly and we should.
This conversation was had last night, the reasons explained, just as we’ve always had them in place for other nationals fleeing war.
It doesn't mean I have to agree with you or the reasons that you outlined. Still an outrage.
No you don’t, but procedures are there for a reason and a good one.
Countries all around the world have suspended their Visa system for Ukrainian citizens and their reasons for not so would be as valid as ours yet they have decided to be humanitarian.
Not as many as you think. We aren’t going to agree on this so let’s just leave it there, you have your thoughts, I have mine on the process. "
I'd say 89 countries is quite a lot. And a further 15 countries allow you to enter and apply for a Visa once you are there. |
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"How come our government cannot pull their finger out and help more?
It makes me ashamed of our government when I see how poorly they have responded to this massive crisis. "
Did you see the news clip on Friday I think it was…
Teenage girl (19 I think the report said) stating her mum (they’ed lived in UK for over 2O years) was visiting family when war broke out. She managed to escape and got to France but the UK had cancelled all Ukrainian visas so she was denied entry back into UK. This government is disgusting |
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People complain we won't open the flood gates, that we vet those that come in well it makes sure we don't let in a someone in their home country that is a sex offender or murderer or career criminal.
The visa scheme has been made easier now but it still needs to be in place. |
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"People complain we won't open the flood gates, that we vet those that come in well it makes sure we don't let in a someone in their home country that is a sex offender or murderer or career criminal.
The visa scheme has been made easier now but it still needs to be in place."
People need to stop buying the Daily Outrage and assuming that foreigners and brown people are all criminals, murderers and sex offenders. |
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" Can i say 1 thing if Nato go in and that is UsA and forces we are looking at more peopele wiped out .
Lets give Redcross an anymore"
The his thread is not about NATO going in. It is about the speed of governments to respond to the refugee crisis, which is (if not already) predicted to be the largest refugee crisis since the Second World War.
My start point was that Boris and co are promoting themselves as world leaders in how they are dealing with this war… they demonstrably are not leading in any way on this issue… quoting laws as barriers is a load of bollocks.., governments can change laws very quickly if they decide to do it.. the government are deliberately dragging their feet and I suspect it is because they are very much tied in with Russian money and ghetto Russian state is calling in it’s favours.
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By *aitonelMan
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"People complain we won't open the flood gates, that we vet those that come in well it makes sure we don't let in a someone in their home country that is a sex offender or murderer or career criminal.
The visa scheme has been made easier now but it still needs to be in place.
People need to stop buying the Daily Outrage and assuming that foreigners and brown people are all criminals, murderers and sex offenders. "
Thats not what he said, and you know it. Considering it applies to all countries, races and religions. Even if it were a white Christian American, Canadian, French, German, etc the list goes on.
I'm not getting involved in the debate the thread is about. But nah, don't be twisting things to suit your own argument. |
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Did I say that, no.
It’s a unique situation but unfortunately even those fleeing a war zone, who are actually out of it now and in other European countries, still need to go through a process to make that final trip to the UK
You implied it when you mentioned people who voted for brexit. .
Tighter boarder controls yes with brexit, there wasn’t any stipulations but if war occurs drop every check. War unfortunately happens all the time around the world, so should we freely drop all checks for people entering from all those countries ?
Other countries around the world have done this without additional checks, why can't we?
It's pretty obvious what the need is and that it's immediate.
So you would quite happily let any individual in from any country with no documentation to prove who they are, citizenship, just because they say they are fleeing a war zone and a refugee ? Really ? "
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"It’s only been open 48 hours. Takes time to process & check things, with rules in place
But it should have been open before 48 hours ago and it should not be taking time, this is an absolute emergency and quicker action needs to be taken.
The change to visa requirements need time to be approved, which happened earlier this week, allowing more to enter the country by changing the criteria. These things always take time and yes things do need to be checked including their citizenship, even in an humanitarian crisis. It’s a painful process but it is what it is and something those that wanted us out of Europe voted for, tighter border restrictions.
I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe. I also don't believe those that frontage brexit agree that we shouldn't be taking a lot more and a lot more quickly.
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?
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If you had read my post you would have read that I said in Europe Syria is not in Europe.
Add yes I believe we should have taken more Syrian refugees as well.
I did read your post, you said "I'm sorry no I do not believe those that voted brexit voted for tighter controls from people fleeing A-war zone in Europe" to which I replied "
Just those fleeing a war zone in Syria eh?"
It is my belief that many people did vote for Brexit for tighter controls on people fleeing from war zones, albeit not European ones. Personally, I can't see the difference between people fleeing a war zone in Europe and those fleeing one in the middle East, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else. I'm not sure what the relevance of this particular war zone being European is to anyone but a racist.
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"How come our government cannot pull their finger out and help more?
It makes me ashamed of our government when I see how poorly they have responded to this massive crisis.
I agree but let the illegal ones live here makes no sense and refugees from Syria who are probably terrorists "
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"People complain we won't open the flood gates, that we vet those that come in well it makes sure we don't let in a someone in their home country that is a sex offender or murderer or career criminal.
The visa scheme has been made easier now but it still needs to be in place.
People need to stop buying the Daily Outrage and assuming that foreigners and brown people are all criminals, murderers and sex offenders.
Thats not what he said, and you know it. Considering it applies to all countries, races and religions. Even if it were a white Christian American, Canadian, French, German, etc the list goes on.
I'm not getting involved in the debate the thread is about. But nah, don't be twisting things to suit your own argument."
Steady, what's my "own argument", nothings been twisted here. Just calling out Daily Mail type nonsense. |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
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Because they are pandering to the anti immigration anti foreigners Brexit voting twats that helps and keeps them on power. Plus having to do what the Russian Oligarchy paymasters tell thwm |
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"People complain we won't open the flood gates, that we vet those that come in well it makes sure we don't let in a someone in their home country that is a sex offender or murderer or career criminal.
The visa scheme has been made easier now but it still needs to be in place.
People need to stop buying the Daily Outrage and assuming that foreigners and brown people are all criminals, murderers and sex offenders.
Thats not what he said, and you know it. Considering it applies to all countries, races and religions. Even if it were a white Christian American, Canadian, French, German, etc the list goes on.
I'm not getting involved in the debate the thread is about. But nah, don't be twisting things to suit your own argument.
Steady, what's my "own argument", nothings been twisted here. Just calling out Daily Mail type nonsense. "
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"How come our government cannot pull their finger out and help more?
It makes me ashamed of our government when I see how poorly they have responded to this massive crisis.
I agree but let the illegal ones live here makes no sense and refugees from Syria who are probably terrorists "
Fab will never change. |
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"Because they are pandering to the anti immigration anti foreigners Brexit voting twats that helps and keeps them on power. Plus having to do what the Russian Oligarchy paymasters tell thwm"
In a nutshell. |
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"Here's a solution kick all the fucking convics out of prison and send them to the Ukraine and put the refugees in the prisons except not under lock and key!"
Ummmm |
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"Thing is where do they house these refugees the uk took in 20 thousand Syrians last year maybe there just isn't enough room?  "
We took them in between 2014 and 2020, not just in one year. |
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I would offer to house a family tomorrow for a minimum of six months if there was a sponsorship system in place like there is in most other countries. I have the space, and it’s not like it’s going to impact on my fab activities as I’m so unpopular with the ladies 
But genuinely, I would house people from the Ukraine for free whilst they find a more permanent solution. |
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"Here's a solution kick all the fucking convics out of prison and send them to the Ukraine and put the refugees in the prisons except not under lock and key!
Really!? "
It's basically a hotel 3 square meals xbox,tv |
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"I would offer to house a family tomorrow for a minimum of six months if there was a sponsorship system in place like there is in most other countries. I have the space, and it’s not like it’s going to impact on my fab activities as I’m so unpopular with the ladies
But genuinely, I would house people from the Ukraine for free whilst they find a more permanent solution."
There is a sponsorship scheme in place. |
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"Here's a solution kick all the fucking convics out of prison and send them to the Ukraine and put the refugees in the prisons except not under lock and key!
Really!?
It's basically a hotel 3 square meals xbox,tv "
It's not though is it. |
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"I would offer to house a family tomorrow for a minimum of six months if there was a sponsorship system in place like there is in most other countries. I have the space, and it’s not like it’s going to impact on my fab activities as I’m so unpopular with the ladies
But genuinely, I would house people from the Ukraine for free whilst they find a more permanent solution.
There is a sponsorship scheme in place. "
I’ll look into it more. Last time I looked you had to be related in some way. So far as I know only 10 such visas have been granted. |
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we have said we will take up to 200,000 there are 27 country in europe and then theres america cannada austraila new zealand and other countries too it was always going to be slower for the uk we are a island they cant walk here ....
i belive we will take more than 200.000 or at least i hope we do this has nothing to do with party colors its how our system is and red tape has been cut already .... to 50 visa story has already been reported as rubbish ....
no im not a tory and never have been ..
brexit has nothing to do with this those that voted brexit did not want uncontrolled imagration this will be controlled so bugger all to do with that .... and no i did not vote for brexit ...
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"Here's a solution kick all the fucking convics out of prison and send them to the Ukraine and put the refugees in the prisons except not under lock and key!
Really!?
It's basically a hotel 3 square meals xbox,tv
It's not though is it. "
Well im sure they would be greatful of any accommodation so long as there out of that hell hole |
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"I would offer to house a family tomorrow for a minimum of six months if there was a sponsorship system in place like there is in most other countries. I have the space, and it’s not like it’s going to impact on my fab activities as I’m so unpopular with the ladies
But genuinely, I would house people from the Ukraine for free whilst they find a more permanent solution.
There is a sponsorship scheme in place.
I’ll look into it more. Last time I looked you had to be related in some way. So far as I know only 10 such visas have been granted."
No you don't have to be related you can do it on a sponsorship scheme but I don't know if that's for individuals or charities and organisations. My local church is currently looking at personally sponsoring two families. |
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"Here's a solution kick all the fucking convics out of prison and send them to the Ukraine and put the refugees in the prisons except not under lock and key!
Really!?
It's basically a hotel 3 square meals xbox,tv
It's not though is it.
Well im sure they would be greatful of any accommodation so long as there out of that hell hole"
No I don't think they would be grateful to be put in a prison knowing the people that were in that prison had been sent to possibly die in the country they had just fled from and had no free will which is exactly what these people are trying to escape. |
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"Here's a solution kick all the fucking convics out of prison and send them to the Ukraine and put the refugees in the prisons except not under lock and key!
Really!?
It's basically a hotel 3 square meals xbox,tv "
You want to put people who've fled a WAR into a prison environment? Please have some humanity. |
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"I would offer to house a family tomorrow for a minimum of six months if there was a sponsorship system in place like there is in most other countries. I have the space, and it’s not like it’s going to impact on my fab activities as I’m so unpopular with the ladies
But genuinely, I would house people from the Ukraine for free whilst they find a more permanent solution.
There is a sponsorship scheme in place.
I’ll look into it more. Last time I looked you had to be related in some way. So far as I know only 10 such visas have been granted.
No you don't have to be related you can do it on a sponsorship scheme but I don't know if that's for individuals or charities and organisations. My local church is currently looking at personally sponsoring two families. "
"The Prime Minister also announced plans for a new scheme for Ukrainians with no ties to the UK to come here. An uncapped sponsored humanitarian visa route will allow sponsors, such as communities, private sponsors or local authorities, to bring people to the UK. They will be able to work and the sponsor would provide housing and integration support." March 1st |
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"Kind of taken out of context I think"
I don't think your statement was taken out of context because you said prisoners should be made to go a fight in Ukraine and refugees given homes in the vacated prison.
I don't see how anyone that has disagreed with this has taken that statement out of context. |
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Uk looking pretty weak on the global stage
1.76 million refugees, uk has taken 50 so far.
0.000029%
For perspective 1.76M people at 50 to a coach, that’s 30,000 full coaches of which UK has accepted one.
In other news prime minister involved in a dodgy peerage to son of a former KGB agent. Tory party won’t return the £2m party donation from Russian donor. |
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