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Been a couple of incidents this week where intruders have been in the back gardens down our street. Not the easiest places to access, they went fence hopping trying everyones back doors.
Recommendations for reasonably priced cameras? I'll need 2, front and back.
Ring doorbell?
Something easy to set up 
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Maybe a deterrent is better as if in hoods as likely cameras achieve little and less if unidentifiable but a simple option is one of those door bell cameras.
Try bird spikes on fence tops or bitumen paint too. Long term prickly bushes along the fence line. |
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"Been a couple of incidents this week where intruders have been in the back gardens down our street. Not the easiest places to access, they went fence hopping trying everyones back doors.
Recommendations for reasonably priced cameras? I'll need 2, front and back.
Ring doorbell?
Something easy to set up
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Mimi, avoid the dross they sell on TV they are aimed at the unknowing. If you want a reasonably priced system speak to a local electrical wholesaler and get them to recommend an installer |
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"Ring security cameras not doorbells and fit led security lights with proximity sensor.Replace door locks with best quality ones with 3 star rating by ERA. "
Forget the Ring doorbell, look at the ESP Fort range, there Doorbell is a lot cheaper and actually comes with a ringer too |
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"Maybe a deterrent is better as if in hoods as likely cameras achieve little and less if unidentifiable but a simple option is one of those door bell cameras.
Try bird spikes on fence tops or bitumen paint too. Long term prickly bushes along the fence line. "
I don't actually have fences, just really low walls. Might suggest that to the pub for their wall though! |
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Ring doorbells are good... Ive got them connected through my Alexa so that they alert me if anyone comes near my front and back door (i have echo devices all over house)
I also have standard cctv covering all sides of the house. As a woman living on my own, can never be to careful |
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The good thing about any sort of cctv is that you can keep looking at the unidentifiable masked face of the unknowns who have been on or in your property and not do anything about it.
As the poster above said, spend your money on things that will hurt and deter them. Things that will make it more difficult for them. cctv does none of this |
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By *haky 80Man
over a year ago
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I put in myself the Swann enforcer cctv, cameras are in colour even at night, and have LED light on cameras if active and can have red and blue lights come on if activated too and can be viewed on phone as long you connect to the internet at home, the one I got can have up too 8 cameras. |
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Ok so feel particularly qualified to answer this question.
I have a ring doorbell, I’m particularly geeky with tech and my job involves prosecuting people for the offences we are walking about here (no prizes for guessing).
So ring sell security products of all kinds, cameras, alarm systems and floodlight cameras, but they are not the only one and they are not the best. They are ok but there are known issues with sound and the frame rate and quality is beaten by a number of other competitors.
In short if I were buying now, from scratch I would go for Eufy. They have Alexa and Google Voice Assistant integration, the quality is good and if you worry about privacy they are able to record on local data cards. Eufy make almost all of the same products that Ring make. sticking within one brand means that you’ll simplify the set up process.
When it comes to footage and with regard to earlier an comment. I get why that person made the point about covered-faces and of course that is always best evidence, however successful convictions can and are regularly secured on clothing where there are distinctive features like branding or even flashes of colour. I know that is not in every case but having no face, doesn’t necessarily mean all is lost.
It would be wise once-bought (what ever your brand) to familiarise yourself with how to export and or share your footage. It’s pretty easy but you wouldn’t believe the amount of people who have CCTV but don’t know how to use it. Also some advice from a practitioner, very high point of view cameras are counter productive. If it were me I would try and strike a balance between keeping the camera out of reach and getting as close to any suspects that might come.
Ring and it’s competitors transmit their signal through WiFi, so if the camera is far away from your router you made need to invest in repeaters / extenders, if you don’t want to get involved in wiring.
Good luck with your purchase. I hope you feel safer when your cameras have been installed.
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"Ring doorbells are good... Ive got them connected through my Alexa so that they alert me if anyone comes near my front and back door (i have echo devices all over house)
I also have standard cctv covering all sides of the house. As a woman living on my own, can never be to careful"
I've got Alexa, that might work! |
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"The good thing about any sort of cctv is that you can keep looking at the unidentifiable masked face of the unknowns who have been on or in your property and not do anything about it.
As the poster above said, spend your money on things that will hurt and deter them. Things that will make it more difficult for them. cctv does none of this "
Not sure I really want to hurt anyone. And I have cats, not just my own to think about in the garden. So lights and cameras are my best option. |
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Ring doorbells are worse than cctv they are ok within reason but they cant go over next doors fence (privacy issues)
swan system is also ok but most use normal dvr units and have come to the end of there upgrade position
nvr systems are far better quality they are that clear on picture.
you use a wire like the internet connection so is thiner and supplys both image and power to them.
They will use up to 9mp unlike the dvr counter parts.
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"Ok so feel particularly qualified to answer this question.
I have a ring doorbell, I’m particularly geeky with tech and my job involves prosecuting people for the offences we are walking about here (no prizes for guessing).
So ring sell security products of all kinds, cameras, alarm systems and floodlight cameras, but they are not the only one and they are not the best. They are ok but there are known issues with sound and the frame rate and quality is beaten by a number of other competitors.
In short if I were buying now, from scratch I would go for Eufy. They have Alexa and Google Voice Assistant integration, the quality is good and if you worry about privacy they are able to record on local data cards. Eufy make almost all of the same products that Ring make. sticking within one brand means that you’ll simplify the set up process.
When it comes to footage and with regard to earlier an comment. I get why that person made the point about covered-faces and of course that is always best evidence, however successful convictions can and are regularly secured on clothing where there are distinctive features like branding or even flashes of colour. I know that is not in every case but having no face, doesn’t necessarily mean all is lost.
It would be wise once-bought (what ever your brand) to familiarise yourself with how to export and or share your footage. It’s pretty easy but you wouldn’t believe the amount of people who have CCTV but don’t know how to use it. Also some advice from a practitioner, very high point of view cameras are counter productive. If it were me I would try and strike a balance between keeping the camera out of reach and getting as close to any suspects that might come.
Ring and it’s competitors transmit their signal through WiFi, so if the camera is far away from your router you made need to invest in repeaters / extenders, if you don’t want to get involved in wiring.
Good luck with your purchase. I hope you feel safer when your cameras have been installed.
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Any recommendations for systems that don't encroach on privacy? |
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"Ok so feel particularly qualified to answer this question.
I have a ring doorbell, I’m particularly geeky with tech and my job involves prosecuting people for the offences we are walking about here (no prizes for guessing).
So ring sell security products of all kinds, cameras, alarm systems and floodlight cameras, but they are not the only one and they are not the best. They are ok but there are known issues with sound and the frame rate and quality is beaten by a number of other competitors.
In short if I were buying now, from scratch I would go for Eufy. They have Alexa and Google Voice Assistant integration, the quality is good and if you worry about privacy they are able to record on local data cards. Eufy make almost all of the same products that Ring make. sticking within one brand means that you’ll simplify the set up process.
When it comes to footage and with regard to earlier an comment. I get why that person made the point about covered-faces and of course that is always best evidence, however successful convictions can and are regularly secured on clothing where there are distinctive features like branding or even flashes of colour. I know that is not in every case but having no face, doesn’t necessarily mean all is lost.
It would be wise once-bought (what ever your brand) to familiarise yourself with how to export and or share your footage. It’s pretty easy but you wouldn’t believe the amount of people who have CCTV but don’t know how to use it. Also some advice from a practitioner, very high point of view cameras are counter productive. If it were me I would try and strike a balance between keeping the camera out of reach and getting as close to any suspects that might come.
Ring and it’s competitors transmit their signal through WiFi, so if the camera is far away from your router you made need to invest in repeaters / extenders, if you don’t want to get involved in wiring.
Good luck with your purchase. I hope you feel safer when your cameras have been installed.
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Any recommendations for systems that don't encroach on privacy?"
I don’t know if any WiFi-based systems which offer to ‘black out’ areas within the field of view, although on most of the decent ones you can draw ‘motion detection zones’ where recordings are only started when there is movement inside those zones. That doesn’t stop manually recording other peoples back gardens or having a view towards people’s widows.
Placing ‘geostationary blocks over windows and areas of people’s private property is something I’ve only ever seen on Cat 5 (wired) systems. I should write here though that I general the privacy issue where it comes to ‘collaterally intrude’ on people’s privacy is overblown. I know of no court cases where there has been issues over the field of view of a WiFi-based camera system.
Where it comes to that issue if you can show you have made reasonable efforts to stop such intrusion you won’t be landed with a court summons. The privacy issue is a long boring issue as are the practicalities, however where it comes to the question of ‘Camera or no camera?’ I would always say camera.
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"Ok so feel particularly qualified to answer this question.
I have a ring doorbell, I’m particularly geeky with tech and my job involves prosecuting people for the offences we are walking about here (no prizes for guessing).
So ring sell security products of all kinds, cameras, alarm systems and floodlight cameras, but they are not the only one and they are not the best. They are ok but there are known issues with sound and the frame rate and quality is beaten by a number of other competitors.
In short if I were buying now, from scratch I would go for Eufy. They have Alexa and Google Voice Assistant integration, the quality is good and if you worry about privacy they are able to record on local data cards. Eufy make almost all of the same products that Ring make. sticking within one brand means that you’ll simplify the set up process.
When it comes to footage and with regard to earlier an comment. I get why that person made the point about covered-faces and of course that is always best evidence, however successful convictions can and are regularly secured on clothing where there are distinctive features like branding or even flashes of colour. I know that is not in every case but having no face, doesn’t necessarily mean all is lost.
It would be wise once-bought (what ever your brand) to familiarise yourself with how to export and or share your footage. It’s pretty easy but you wouldn’t believe the amount of people who have CCTV but don’t know how to use it. Also some advice from a practitioner, very high point of view cameras are counter productive. If it were me I would try and strike a balance between keeping the camera out of reach and getting as close to any suspects that might come.
Ring and it’s competitors transmit their signal through WiFi, so if the camera is far away from your router you made need to invest in repeaters / extenders, if you don’t want to get involved in wiring.
Good luck with your purchase. I hope you feel safer when your cameras have been installed.
x
Any recommendations for systems that don't encroach on privacy?
I don’t know if any WiFi-based systems which offer to ‘black out’ areas within the field of view, although on most of the decent ones you can draw ‘motion detection zones’ where recordings are only started when there is movement inside those zones. That doesn’t stop manually recording other peoples back gardens or having a view towards people’s widows.
Placing ‘geostationary blocks over windows and areas of people’s private property is something I’ve only ever seen on Cat 5 (wired) systems. I should write here though that I general the privacy issue where it comes to ‘collaterally intrude’ on people’s privacy is overblown. I know of no court cases where there has been issues over the field of view of a WiFi-based camera system.
Where it comes to that issue if you can show you have made reasonable efforts to stop such intrusion you won’t be landed with a court summons. The privacy issue is a long boring issue as are the practicalities, however where it comes to the question of ‘Camera or no camera?’ I would always say camera.
I hope that answers your question? "
I think you misunderstand my question.
I mean as in a system that doesn't rely on companies like amazon and Google. Call me paranoid but I'm partial to keeping my private information as just that, private. |
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"Ok so feel particularly qualified to answer this question.
I have a ring doorbell, I’m particularly geeky with tech and my job involves prosecuting people for the offences we are walking about here (no prizes for guessing).
So ring sell security products of all kinds, cameras, alarm systems and floodlight cameras, but they are not the only one and they are not the best. They are ok but there are known issues with sound and the frame rate and quality is beaten by a number of other competitors.
In short if I were buying now, from scratch I would go for Eufy. They have Alexa and Google Voice Assistant integration, the quality is good and if you worry about privacy they are able to record on local data cards. Eufy make almost all of the same products that Ring make. sticking within one brand means that you’ll simplify the set up process.
When it comes to footage and with regard to earlier an comment. I get why that person made the point about covered-faces and of course that is always best evidence, however successful convictions can and are regularly secured on clothing where there are distinctive features like branding or even flashes of colour. I know that is not in every case but having no face, doesn’t necessarily mean all is lost.
It would be wise once-bought (what ever your brand) to familiarise yourself with how to export and or share your footage. It’s pretty easy but you wouldn’t believe the amount of people who have CCTV but don’t know how to use it. Also some advice from a practitioner, very high point of view cameras are counter productive. If it were me I would try and strike a balance between keeping the camera out of reach and getting as close to any suspects that might come.
Ring and it’s competitors transmit their signal through WiFi, so if the camera is far away from your router you made need to invest in repeaters / extenders, if you don’t want to get involved in wiring.
Good luck with your purchase. I hope you feel safer when your cameras have been installed.
x
Any recommendations for systems that don't encroach on privacy?
I don’t know if any WiFi-based systems which offer to ‘black out’ areas within the field of view, although on most of the decent ones you can draw ‘motion detection zones’ where recordings are only started when there is movement inside those zones. That doesn’t stop manually recording other peoples back gardens or having a view towards people’s widows.
Placing ‘geostationary blocks over windows and areas of people’s private property is something I’ve only ever seen on Cat 5 (wired) systems. I should write here though that I general the privacy issue where it comes to ‘collaterally intrude’ on people’s privacy is overblown. I know of no court cases where there has been issues over the field of view of a WiFi-based camera system.
Where it comes to that issue if you can show you have made reasonable efforts to stop such intrusion you won’t be landed with a court summons. The privacy issue is a long boring issue as are the practicalities, however where it comes to the question of ‘Camera or no camera?’ I would always say camera.
I hope that answers your question?
I think you misunderstand my question.
I mean as in a system that doesn't rely on companies like amazon and Google. Call me paranoid but I'm partial to keeping my private information as just that, private."
I mean I know ring doorbells for example have a clause in their small print that allows them to keep facial captures of everyone that passes the camera, they then sell that information on to companies that produce facial recognition software (which I'm also opposed to). I'm not a fan of that kind of stuff. |
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"In short if I were buying now, from scratch I would go for Eufy. They have Alexa and Google Voice Assistant integration, the quality is good and if you worry about privacy they are able to record on local data cards.
When it comes to footage and with regard to earlier an comment. I get why that person made the point about covered-faces and of course that is always best evidence, however successful convictions can and are regularly secured on clothing where there are distinctive features like branding or even flashes of colour. I know that is not in every case but having no face, doesn’t necessarily mean all is lost.
Ring and it’s competitors transmit their signal through WiFi, so if the camera is far away from your router you made need to invest in repeaters / extenders, if you don’t want to get involved in wiring."
really 
privacy is for reference of next door users.
you cannot have a camera facing into next doors property otherwise you will get done.
dont use wifi cameras they can be hacked into its better to use a wired system.
better quality is always through a wired unit
wifi signal is poor and you do lose quality through this sending the info down it.
if your really woried about your gear go down the camera route but also install a smoke screen unit where a room will be filled with smoke.
if they cant see they cant pinch your stuff |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
Some points to be considered, touched upon already by some, but not fully explained, if you install any camera or CCTV equipment to cover the exterior, it MUST only view to the perimeter edges of your property.
If you live in a house with limited front space, or you are on a corner location, say a terrace house or at a junction adjacent, you can only cover your home frontage, doorstep and access path from the pavement, but NOT the pavement itself nor the street as that is Public Highway.
Your home Camera system can only record images within your property. Equally, you cannot include neighbouring properties in your images.
Some CCTV systems can include a program to block out sections of the viewing, to allow the operator to screen off pavement, street or neighbour's home areas.
Also, for anyone inclined to place spikes, or other deterrent items on top of garden walls (like barbed wire, broken glass) or as I have done in business property boundary walls, installed anti-climb paint on fences, you MUST also put up Warning Notices to alert people to the potential risk.
Crazily, if you don't and some villain injured themselves climbing over a wall or fence, in theory they could sue the property owner.
Two items which get around that are -
1) Cat Protection Spike strips, designed to be baiked or glued along the tops of walls or fences. Cats cannot walk along them as they cannot find a safe grip, and the spiked strip top makes it very difficult for intruders to secure handholds.
2). Install Grow-Bags of Spiked or Thorny plants at the base of walls or fences. If you can install any trellis fence with relevant plants growing up it, all the better!
These two items were suggested by Crime Preventuon officers a few years ago because of intruders cut or lacerate themselves on spiky items and leave blood drops, it's valuable evidence for CIS officers to gather. |
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"Some points to be considered, touched upon already by some, but not fully explained, if you install any camera or CCTV equipment to cover the exterior, it MUST only view to the perimeter edges of your property.
If you live in a house with limited front space, or you are on a corner location, say a terrace house or at a junction adjacent, you can only cover your home frontage, doorstep and access path from the pavement, but NOT the pavement itself nor the street as that is Public Highway.
Your home Camera system can only record images within your property. Equally, you cannot include neighbouring properties in your images.
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You can record onto the street if your protecting your car.
you can also take photos and video on the street.
what you cant do is have a camera looking into others windows
or over looking there property
This is where height comes into it
ring doorbells and amazon doorbell isnt legal
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/property/1513895/ring-doorbell-legal-battle-data-protection-evg
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/14/amazon-asks-ring-owners-to-respect-privacy-after-court-rules-usage-broke-law |
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"We have recently installed a 4 camera Swann system from Screwfix. It’s been a godsend this week as we’ve been away leaving eldest child at home. We’ve been able to watch from our phone"
Poor youth of today. The days of parents away parties are doomed. |
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"We have recently installed a 4 camera Swann system from Screwfix. It’s been a godsend this week as we’ve been away leaving eldest child at home. We’ve been able to watch from our phone
Poor youth of today. The days of parents away parties are doomed. "
I was about to say something similar! Our son did the whole party thing when we left him in charge. Only very minor (and random) damage  |
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over a year ago
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I’m going to be ducking out of this thread because it is fast becoming a different thread than the OP started. She wanted advice on what I would imagine would help her feel safe which I think I covered in my first post.
For the legal Eagles on here if you are in public, you can be filmed council owned or otherwise. The regulation of the privacy of CCTV cameras is dealt with by a quite toothless ICO, which having seen them in action, really allow people to do what they should be able to do when they don’t feel safe, buy and use CCTV.
I hope the OP can find a camera system to put up which she feels safe with. Take it easy guys x |
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"I’m going to be ducking out of this thread because it is fast becoming a different thread than the OP started. She wanted advice on what I would imagine would help her feel safe which I think I covered in my first post.
For the legal Eagles on here if you are in public, you can be filmed council owned or otherwise. The regulation of the privacy of CCTV cameras is dealt with by a quite toothless ICO, which having seen them in action, really allow people to do what they should be able to do when they don’t feel safe, buy and use CCTV.
I hope the OP can find a camera system to put up which she feels safe with. Take it easy guys x"
Who would have thought home CCTV brought out so many experts, opinions, tribalism and caused so much friction! |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
Reading |
"We have recently installed a 4 camera Swann system from Screwfix. It’s been a godsend this week as we’ve been away leaving eldest child at home. We’ve been able to watch from our phone"
I have the two camera system. Set up myself and using app . Able to watch live and recordings. This when away in Asia . Only downside is needing a monitor / laptop plug in etc to see system. Yes has its own box. Someone I know paid Swann to install. Cannot connect to android phone for some reason. I use iPhone and app worked ok |
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Cameras are a complete waste of time - the ability to identify any half witted crim who wears a hoody and baseball cap in universal black leisurewear having a go at residential property is so remote its quite frankly a waste of police time. It’s also after the fact. It’s not much of a deterrent at all. At night the pictures rarely pick up sufficient details that would allow identification anyway. Congratulations though, they still broke in whilst you were asleep. Let’s watch 8hrs of grainy B&W footage to watch someone you can’t quite make out, force the lock on your patio doors at 3am
Put up a fake camera and save your money. Things that actually work which will likely deter a thief - Fake dog kennel and dog toys, signs etc.
Motion sensor floodlight (up high and out of reach). Having the back or side of the house suddenly light up as an opportunistic junky is creeping towards it is a deterrent. Make sure it stays on a few minutes.
Get modern looking branded alarm boxes up
High front and back of the house. They light up and give off that ‘pick an easier target’ vibe. Don’t leave expensive garden stuff, bikes on show. Fit a Shed alarm (they will get through anything that screws into wood, big locks are a waste of money) remember a thief will cause any amount of damage to gain access to get around a big lock. Close downstairs windows (open windows are literal thief magnets). Close curtains so they can’t see your expensive gear. Don’t leave spades, garden forks etc out which are amazingly good and levering open windows and doors. |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
Reading |
"We have recently installed a 4 camera Swann system from Screwfix. It’s been a godsend this week as we’ve been away leaving eldest child at home. We’ve been able to watch from our phone
I have the two camera system. Set up myself and using app . Able to watch live and recordings. This when away in Asia . Only downside is needing a monitor / laptop plug in etc to see system. Yes has its own box. Someone I know paid Swann to install. Cannot connect to android phone for some reason. I use iPhone and app worked ok"
I also have security lights front and back. Which detects motion / heat etc. As I have a shared drive . Biggest problem is foxes and cats setting off lights ?????? |
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"Ok so feel particularly qualified to answer this question.
I have a ring doorbell, I’m particularly geeky with tech and my job involves prosecuting people for the offences we are walking about here (no prizes for guessing).
So ring sell security products of all kinds, cameras, alarm systems and floodlight cameras, but they are not the only one and they are not the best. They are ok but there are known issues with sound and the frame rate and quality is beaten by a number of other competitors.
In short if I were buying now, from scratch I would go for Eufy. They have Alexa and Google Voice Assistant integration, the quality is good and if you worry about privacy they are able to record on local data cards. Eufy make almost all of the same products that Ring make. sticking within one brand means that you’ll simplify the set up process.
When it comes to footage and with regard to earlier an comment. I get why that person made the point about covered-faces and of course that is always best evidence, however successful convictions can and are regularly secured on clothing where there are distinctive features like branding or even flashes of colour. I know that is not in every case but having no face, doesn’t necessarily mean all is lost.
It would be wise once-bought (what ever your brand) to familiarise yourself with how to export and or share your footage. It’s pretty easy but you wouldn’t believe the amount of people who have CCTV but don’t know how to use it. Also some advice from a practitioner, very high point of view cameras are counter productive. If it were me I would try and strike a balance between keeping the camera out of reach and getting as close to any suspects that might come.
Ring and it’s competitors transmit their signal through WiFi, so if the camera is far away from your router you made need to invest in repeaters / extenders, if you don’t want to get involved in wiring.
Good luck with your purchase. I hope you feel safer when your cameras have been installed.
x"
Just to say.. I bought Eufy (I research before buying) and had it all connected up on both my front and back doors with wifi extenders sorted (i know what im doing) .. To send both back within a month of fitting them as they did not perform as I expected them too. Delays on notifications etc.. People would be well gone before i was notified. No such problems with the ring
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By *aulj69Man
over a year ago
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I always found as a light sleeper that any noise wakes me, I was brought up in the country and am very adept when it comes to this, there is a big difference between the noise a fox makes being inquisitive and a nosey fuck looking for something to steal, my bedroom backs onto my back garden, on hearing a human presence I would wake and open my blinds and shout 'fuck off or learn to live as a cripple' whilst hovering a 36 gauge shotgun in their general direction, if I feel they maybe still desperate to find their fix I would simply release my dogs to maul the unfortunate soul. Oh dear I simply didn't see you had wandered onto my land I cried between howls of guilty laughter. Hope this helps in your quest, don't get too technical as it's mainly a load of nonsense and just something made to wind you up. Paul xx |
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"Cameras are a complete waste of time - the ability to identify any half witted crim who wears a hoody and baseball cap in universal black leisurewear having a go at residential property is so remote its quite frankly a waste of police time. It’s also after the fact. It’s not much of a deterrent at all. At night the pictures rarely pick up sufficient details that would allow identification anyway. Congratulations though, they still broke in whilst you were asleep. Let’s watch 8hrs of grainy B&W footage to watch someone you can’t quite make out, force the lock on your patio doors at 3am
Put up a fake camera and save your money. Things that actually work which will likely deter a thief - Fake dog kennel and dog toys, signs etc.
Motion sensor floodlight (up high and out of reach). Having the back or side of the house suddenly light up as an opportunistic junky is creeping towards it is a deterrent. Make sure it stays on a few minutes.
Get modern looking branded alarm boxes up
High front and back of the house. They light up and give off that ‘pick an easier target’ vibe. Don’t leave expensive garden stuff, bikes on show. Fit a Shed alarm (they will get through anything that screws into wood, big locks are a waste of money) remember a thief will cause any amount of damage to gain access to get around a big lock. Close downstairs windows (open windows are literal thief magnets). Close curtains so they can’t see your expensive gear. Don’t leave spades, garden forks etc out which are amazingly good and levering open windows and doors. "
Definitely going to get some motion sensor lights. Luckily I don't really have anything expensive in the shed, just garden stuff. Same in the house really! Nothing of much value, it's just the thought of a stranger being in my home.
Windows are never open downstairs this time of year. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
Non drying paint might be a option and shingle along the base of the wall. Crunch, crunch
Decorative things like bamboo poles with plants growing on them are not nice to climb over, especially when fixed to the wall and likely to rip and cut their hoodies. |
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