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"So I love a bit of meat on the bone.. what’s the general consensus? " Bbw every time for me. | |||
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"I prefer lamb on the bone, a shank maybe? " Is your padded cell in Wales? | |||
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"I prefer lamb on the bone, a shank maybe? Is your padded cell in Wales?" Haha, I got there eventually  | |||
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"So I love a bit of meat on the bone.. what’s the general consensus? " Sex meat right. Wet hole.  | |||
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"Queen size or Slim ..... I prefer how I've re-wrote those categories .... Thank you ..." | |||
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"Queen size or Slim ..... I prefer how I've re-wrote those categories .... Thank you ..." Which Queen? | |||
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"Lol what about all the sizes in between?" Yeah I was literally about to say this. I'm not a fan of BBW, but I don't like skinny women either. Anything in between is fine for me. | |||
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"I prefer mid size women although I'm plus size myself " Awesome bod x | |||
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"I just love ladies bodies, every single one has their own unique beautifulness. I think the same for men" I'm sporting the ET look | |||
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"Is there no in between option?" Going by porn, I think there's no in-between because every size from about a 12 up gets classed as big! | |||
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"Does nobody mind being referred to as "meat on the bone" "I actually bit my lip and backed out of the thread!! 
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"Is there no in between option? Going by porn, I think there's no in-between because every size from about a 12 up gets classed as big!" Ah, course....popularised by the same folk who think we want our arseholes ploughed every 5 mins and ch0ked. | |||
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"I actually detest labels - be it in relation to size, sexual preference or what not - we are all just humans, we all have imperfections and attributes that makes us who we are - how about we stop sticking labels onto people and just appreciate everyone’s different! X" I see what you mean but to be fair you’re neither big nor very very slim. I like these threads because I like to see which men prefer more curvier/bigger women. We are all humans yes but people do have preferences and it’s good to see them. There may be people I wouldn’t have dreamt of messaging as I wouldn’t have thought they’d prefer curvier women. I often have a red through the BBW thread to see who’s commented. I also look through the slim threads and make notes on the ones who prefer slim/small boobs etc so I know not to contact them. Personally I like these kind of threads x | |||
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"Queen size or Slim ..... I prefer how I've re-wrote those categories .... Thank you ..." I much prefer the term slim too. As for my preferences; I don't have any, I'm attracted to a person's character; sexy and sassy comes in all shapes and sizes. | |||
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"A lady with all the curves in the right places… " Cankles  | |||
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"I actually detest labels - be it in relation to size, sexual preference or what not - we are all just humans, we all have imperfections and attributes that makes us who we are - how about we stop sticking labels onto people and just appreciate everyone’s different! X I see what you mean but to be fair you’re neither big nor very very slim. I like these threads because I like to see which men prefer more curvier/bigger women. We are all humans yes but people do have preferences and it’s good to see them. There may be people I wouldn’t have dreamt of messaging as I wouldn’t have thought they’d prefer curvier women. I often have a red through the BBW thread to see who’s commented. I also look through the slim threads and make notes on the ones who prefer slim/small boobs etc so I know not to contact them. Personally I like these kind of threads x" I had to look at your photos again just to check - several times in fact - but you're not what I would call BBW tbf. Curvy? Absolutely. Big? Not so much. *No labeling was intended and whilst you slot neatly into my mental box for curves I'm sure there is far more to you than that etc etc 
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"I actually detest labels - be it in relation to size, sexual preference or what not - we are all just humans, we all have imperfections and attributes that makes us who we are - how about we stop sticking labels onto people and just appreciate everyone’s different! X I see what you mean but to be fair you’re neither big nor very very slim. I like these threads because I like to see which men prefer more curvier/bigger women. We are all humans yes but people do have preferences and it’s good to see them. There may be people I wouldn’t have dreamt of messaging as I wouldn’t have thought they’d prefer curvier women. I often have a red through the BBW thread to see who’s commented. I also look through the slim threads and make notes on the ones who prefer slim/small boobs etc so I know not to contact them. Personally I like these kind of threads x I had to look at your photos again just to check - several times in fact - but you're not what I would call BBW tbf. Curvy? Absolutely. Big? Not so much. *No labeling was intended and whilst you slot neatly into my mental box for curves I'm sure there is far more to you than that etc etc
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"Thankyou but I’m a good size 16. I’m not sure what classes as a BBW but being tall also I am quite big! Not many pics of my tummy in my pics. We all post our best angles, no filters though I wouldn’t know how to apart from colour, and also new pics added recently to reflect the weight gain! (Much preferred my old ones!) xxx | |||
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"I've been having a think about this and thought I'd simplify how it works to save any confusion. I reckon the groupings are as follows: 1. Too skinny. 2. Teeeeeny, tiny wee sweet spot where you get it all right. Should have big boobs, round bum, washboard stomach, long legs but thighs must be thicc, calves toned and ankles dainty. No bones nor any hint of a lump or bump can be detectable. Must also have pretty face. NB. Should any of the above be achieved through cosmetic enhancement, you're disqualified as you must now be predominantly referred to as fake, plastic or a bimbo. 3. Should you fail to fall into either of the above categories your new prefix for everything is 'big' - big beautiful woman/big fat cow. Don't worry though, by the time you're about 40 it's all about your age anyway, so you can look forward to Milf/Gilf/Cougar/haggard or just being invisible. Pick your label ladies " | |||
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"Queen size or Slim ..... I prefer how I've re-wrote those categories .... Thank you ... Which Queen?" Victoria was ssbbw | |||
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"I've been having a think about this and thought I'd simplify how it works to save any confusion. I reckon the groupings are as follows: 1. Too skinny. 2. Teeeeeny, tiny wee sweet spot where you get it all right. Should have big boobs, round bum, washboard stomach, long legs but thighs must be thicc, calves toned and ankles dainty. No bones nor any hint of a lump or bump can be detectable. Must also have pretty face. NB. Should any of the above be achieved through cosmetic enhancement, you're disqualified as you must now be predominantly referred to as fake, plastic or a bimbo. 3. Should you fail to fall into either of the above categories your new prefix for everything is 'big' - big beautiful woman/big fat cow. Don't worry though, by the time you're about 40 it's all about your age anyway, so you can look forward to Milf/Gilf/Cougar/haggard or just being invisible. Pick your label ladies "Hahaha 
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"Does nobody mind being referred to as "meat on the bone"
I actually bit my lip and backed out of the thread!!
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"I actually detest labels - be it in relation to size, sexual preference or what not - we are all just humans, we all have imperfections and attributes that makes us who we are - how about we stop sticking labels onto people and just appreciate everyone’s different! X" I understand this and Nora's reply. It is instinctive to categorise people, whether that's scruffy/smart or old/young, friendly/grumpy we all do it all the time. I am with you on the labels though. I'm not a fan of telling people how my mind has labelled them unless they ask though - and make a conscious effort to see past any labels I have. When it comes to attraction, we all have certain body types or looks that work for us - every other profile includes a description of the ideal candidates shape/size. Nora has flagged up one of the biggest problems with labels in that they are totally subjective. I suspect if she's reading through BBW threads to find men who may like what she perceives as her body type she could be missing a lot of guys for whom BBW means something totally different to what she thinks of it as. Mr | |||
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"It's interesting the amount of discussion around labeling and what is/isn't acceptable, what words people find demeaning etc. I just hope all the posters put these same responses on the next thread about the ideal height or cock size for a man - especially given these are both things that no one has any control over unlike body shape where we all have a degree of control. There should be a new height/cock size thread in the next 15 mins or so it's been a while ... Mr" I’m guilty of the height thing but it’s MY issue not theirs. I’ve never been happy with my height. I’ve always said it’s the one thing I’d change. I’m the one who doesn’t feel comfortable with someone shorter than me. I wish I did but I don’t. | |||
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"I hate being called skinny as would rather say slim. We are what we are and mostly down down to lifestyle and genes." I can't recall ever hearing a guy use the word in real life though it must have happened. Have heard it used plenty by other women though, almost always in a negative way. | |||
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"It's interesting the amount of discussion around labeling and what is/isn't acceptable, what words people find demeaning etc. I just hope all the posters put these same responses on the next thread about the ideal height or cock size for a man - especially given these are both things that no one has any control over unlike body shape where we all have a degree of control. There should be a new height/cock size thread in the next 15 mins or so it's been a while ... Mr I’m guilty of the height thing but it’s MY issue not theirs. I’ve never been happy with my height. I’ve always said it’s the one thing I’d change. I’m the one who doesn’t feel comfortable with someone shorter than me. I wish I did but I don’t. " In all honesty I don't get bothered by those threads, I'm lucky enough to be over the magic 6 foot mark and well, without making a fuss, I'm happy with what I have down there. In fairness to yourself, you say you like these threads as they let you select people who will be interested. I can't be bothered/I'm not petty enough to back check every post about labels to see if the author uses them in their profiles or has commented on their preference of height/hairyness/dad bod figure/cock size etc. It's more that those threads almost never have ladies protesting about word choice whilst this kind invariably does. 
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" Also the thread title - skinny is offensive its the equivalent of saying fat versus slim. So the thread title really should be BBW versus Slim. Just to add woman can be be a size 8 and have fantastic curves so women can be curvy whether the fall on the size spectrum. KJ" Lots of women hate the BBW label. Can't win, really | |||
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"It's interesting the amount of discussion around labeling and what is/isn't acceptable, what words people find demeaning etc. I just hope all the posters put these same responses on the next thread about the ideal height or cock size for a man - especially given these are both things that no one has any control over unlike body shape where we all have a degree of control. There should be a new height/cock size thread in the next 15 mins or so it's been a while ... Mr I’m guilty of the height thing but it’s MY issue not theirs. I’ve never been happy with my height. I’ve always said it’s the one thing I’d change. I’m the one who doesn’t feel comfortable with someone shorter than me. I wish I did but I don’t. In all honesty I don't get bothered by those threads, I'm lucky enough to be over the magic 6 foot mark and well, without making a fuss, I'm happy with what I have down there. In fairness to yourself, you say you like these threads as they let you select people who will be interested. I can't be bothered/I'm not petty enough to back check every post about labels to see if the author uses them in their profiles or has commented on their preference of height/hairyness/dad bod figure/cock size etc. It's more that those threads almost never have ladies protesting about word choice whilst this kind invariably does.
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"It's interesting the amount of discussion around labeling and what is/isn't acceptable, what words people find demeaning etc. I just hope all the posters put these same responses on the next thread about the ideal height or cock size for a man - especially given these are both things that no one has any control over unlike body shape where we all have a degree of control. There should be a new height/cock size thread in the next 15 mins or so it's been a while ... Mr I’m guilty of the height thing but it’s MY issue not theirs. I’ve never been happy with my height. I’ve always said it’s the one thing I’d change. I’m the one who doesn’t feel comfortable with someone shorter than me. I wish I did but I don’t. In all honesty I don't get bothered by those threads, I'm lucky enough to be over the magic 6 foot mark and well, without making a fuss, I'm happy with what I have down there. In fairness to yourself, you say you like these threads as they let you select people who will be interested. I can't be bothered/I'm not petty enough to back check every post about labels to see if the author uses them in their profiles or has commented on their preference of height/hairyness/dad bod figure/cock size etc. It's more that those threads almost never have ladies protesting about word choice whilst this kind invariably does.
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What word choice around height and cocks do you think we should be protesting? "BBC? | |||
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"It's interesting the amount of discussion around labeling and what is/isn't acceptable, what words people find demeaning etc. I just hope all the posters put these same responses on the next thread about the ideal height or cock size for a man - especially given these are both things that no one has any control over unlike body shape where we all have a degree of control. There should be a new height/cock size thread in the next 15 mins or so it's been a while ... Mr I’m guilty of the height thing but it’s MY issue not theirs. I’ve never been happy with my height. I’ve always said it’s the one thing I’d change. I’m the one who doesn’t feel comfortable with someone shorter than me. I wish I did but I don’t. In all honesty I don't get bothered by those threads, I'm lucky enough to be over the magic 6 foot mark and well, without making a fuss, I'm happy with what I have down there. In fairness to yourself, you say you like these threads as they let you select people who will be interested. I can't be bothered/I'm not petty enough to back check every post about labels to see if the author uses them in their profiles or has commented on their preference of height/hairyness/dad bod figure/cock size etc. It's more that those threads almost never have ladies protesting about word choice whilst this kind invariably does.
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What word choice around height and cocks do you think we should be protesting?
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"It's interesting the amount of discussion around labeling and what is/isn't acceptable, what words people find demeaning etc. I just hope all the posters put these same responses on the next thread about the ideal height or cock size for a man - especially given these are both things that no one has any control over unlike body shape where we all have a degree of control. There should be a new height/cock size thread in the next 15 mins or so it's been a while ... Mr I’m guilty of the height thing but it’s MY issue not theirs. I’ve never been happy with my height. I’ve always said it’s the one thing I’d change. I’m the one who doesn’t feel comfortable with someone shorter than me. I wish I did but I don’t. In all honesty I don't get bothered by those threads, I'm lucky enough to be over the magic 6 foot mark and well, without making a fuss, I'm happy with what I have down there. In fairness to yourself, you say you like these threads as they let you select people who will be interested. I can't be bothered/I'm not petty enough to back check every post about labels to see if the author uses them in their profiles or has commented on their preference of height/hairyness/dad bod figure/cock size etc. It's more that those threads almost never have ladies protesting about word choice whilst this kind invariably does.
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What word choice around height and cocks do you think we should be protesting? "I don't think you *should* be protesting about anything, you can say what you like in those threads. Then again, I don't think you *should* protest about words like skinny, BBW or fat. I'm merely pointing out that there is a big difference between the type of answers on a thread that asks men what their preferred body shape/size/colour/scent/hairyness is than one that asks women the same.
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"It's interesting the amount of discussion around labeling and what is/isn't acceptable, what words people find demeaning etc. I just hope all the posters put these same responses on the next thread about the ideal height or cock size for a man - especially given these are both things that no one has any control over unlike body shape where we all have a degree of control. There should be a new height/cock size thread in the next 15 mins or so it's been a while ... Mr I’m guilty of the height thing but it’s MY issue not theirs. I’ve never been happy with my height. I’ve always said it’s the one thing I’d change. I’m the one who doesn’t feel comfortable with someone shorter than me. I wish I did but I don’t. In all honesty I don't get bothered by those threads, I'm lucky enough to be over the magic 6 foot mark and well, without making a fuss, I'm happy with what I have down there. In fairness to yourself, you say you like these threads as they let you select people who will be interested. I can't be bothered/I'm not petty enough to back check every post about labels to see if the author uses them in their profiles or has commented on their preference of height/hairyness/dad bod figure/cock size etc. It's more that those threads almost never have ladies protesting about word choice whilst this kind invariably does.
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What word choice around height and cocks do you think we should be protesting?
I don't think you *should* be protesting about anything, you can say what you like in those threads. Then again, I don't think you *should* protest about words like skinny, BBW or fat.
I'm merely pointing out that there is a big difference between the type of answers on a thread that asks men what their preferred body shape/size/colour/scent/hairyness is than one that asks women the same.
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"BBWs give the best head Just my experiences " After reading some replies I’d like to alter this reply Girls with a BMI 26 give the best head Just my experiences | |||
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"BBWs give the best head Just my experiences After reading some replies I’d like to alter this reply Girls with a BMI 26 give the best head Just my experiences " | |||
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"I prefer lamb on the bone, a shank maybe? Is your padded cell in Wales?" No, he's locked in my basement | |||
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"To me bbw snd skinny are 2 extremes. Personally I prefer slimmer women, when it comes to curvy women I have to see pics (face and body) because curvy women in the UK means something totally different to curvy women, back home in the Caribbean where I'm from, for example, Scarlett Johanson, Jennifer Lopez would be considered curvy, a woman with a big tummy or her tummy over her breasts is fat. I don’t believe in fat shaming, but everyone has a right to their preference as well as their lifestyle. For me I'm more turned on by small, slim, petite women, yes I love a big butt and nicely shaped boobs, but a petite figure does it for me. The interesting thing is that guys can't change their height or their dick size (the average guy, not a rich one who can afford surgery on their dick) but women can change their weight. Also the body positivity movement is seriously gender skewed, because you don't hear about plus size male models do you? Just something to think about. " A woman with her tummy over her breasts is upside down, not fat. | |||
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"All women what ever there size should be appreciated "I agree, but not every woman needs to be appreciated by every guy and the body positivity movement seems to be trying to force all guys to find all women, specifically all plus size women, beautiful when they clearly never will. If I'm not into someone I'm happy with just saying no, I don't need to justify my decision. And neither do women when it comes to not finding me attractive. | |||
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"To me bbw snd skinny are 2 extremes. Personally I prefer slimmer women, when it comes to curvy women I have to see pics (face and body) because curvy women in the UK means something totally different to curvy women, back home in the Caribbean where I'm from, for example, Scarlett Johanson, Jennifer Lopez would be considered curvy, a woman with a big tummy or her tummy over her breasts is fat. I don’t believe in fat shaming, but everyone has a right to their preference as well as their lifestyle. For me I'm more turned on by small, slim, petite women, yes I love a big butt and nicely shaped boobs, but a petite figure does it for me. The interesting thing is that guys can't change their height or their dick size (the average guy, not a rich one who can afford surgery on their dick) but women can change their weight. Also the body positivity movement is seriously gender skewed, because you don't hear about plus size male models do you? Just something to think about. A woman with her tummy over her breasts is upside down, not fat. " | |||
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"Depends on my mood if I’m wanting to go all night then skinny as they’ll have the stamina or if looking for more intimate than BBW " | |||
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"Depends on my mood if I’m wanting to go all night then skinny as they’ll have the stamina or if looking for more intimate than BBW "  | |||
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"All women what ever there size should be appreciated
I agree, but not every woman needs to be appreciated by every guy and the body positivity movement seems to be trying to force all guys to find all women, specifically all plus size women, beautiful when they clearly never will.
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"All women what ever there size should be appreciated "What do you mean by that though. In what way? | |||
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"All women what ever there size should be appreciated
What do you mean by that though. In what way?"say thankyou for washing our undies | |||
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"Who the heck am i to judge someone " The question wasn’t abiit judging. It was asking if people had a preference. “No” is a perfectly acceptable answer | |||
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"I don't mind size of person it's more the confidence in their figure "Same here. A confident lady who is comfortable in her own skin, is dead sexy. I find the highest proportion of women who fit that description among the portion of the population that could be described as “athletic” rather than simply being slim. Ie can be a very light build or a large powerful build, but i find that athletic women are usually more confident about their bodies . Same for me, when I am at my fittest and strongest, I know that I feel more comfortable, feel more confident, carry myself differently. | |||
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"To me bbw snd skinny are 2 extremes. Personally I prefer slimmer women, when it comes to curvy women I have to see pics (face and body) because curvy women in the UK means something totally different to curvy women, back home in the Caribbean where I'm from, for example, Scarlett Johanson, Jennifer Lopez would be considered curvy, a woman with a big tummy or her tummy over her breasts is fat. I don’t believe in fat shaming, but everyone has a right to their preference as well as their lifestyle. For me I'm more turned on by small, slim, petite women, yes I love a big butt and nicely shaped boobs, but a petite figure does it for me. The interesting thing is that guys can't change their height or their dick size (the average guy, not a rich one who can afford surgery on their dick) but women can change their weight. Also the body positivity movement is seriously gender skewed, because you don't hear about plus size male models do you? Just something to think about. A woman with her tummy over her breasts is upside down, not fat. "I think what is being described is some sort of contortionist, with her belly on top of her tits. That’s some going! | |||
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"To me bbw snd skinny are 2 extremes. Personally I prefer slimmer women, when it comes to curvy women I have to see pics (face and body) because curvy women in the UK means something totally different to curvy women, back home in the Caribbean where I'm from, for example, Scarlett Johanson, Jennifer Lopez would be considered curvy, a woman with a big tummy or her tummy over her breasts is fat. I don’t believe in fat shaming, but everyone has a right to their preference as well as their lifestyle. For me I'm more turned on by small, slim, petite women, yes I love a big butt and nicely shaped boobs, but a petite figure does it for me. The interesting thing is that guys can't change their height or their dick size (the average guy, not a rich one who can afford surgery on their dick) but women can change their weight. Also the body positivity movement is seriously gender skewed, because you don't hear about plus size male models do you? Just something to think about. A woman with her tummy over her breasts is upside down, not fat. " I think this is the best answer in the thread.
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"To me bbw snd skinny are 2 extremes. Personally I prefer slimmer women, when it comes to curvy women I have to see pics (face and body) because curvy women in the UK means something totally different to curvy women, back home in the Caribbean where I'm from, for example, Scarlett Johanson, Jennifer Lopez would be considered curvy, a woman with a big tummy or her tummy over her breasts is fat. I don’t believe in fat shaming, but everyone has a right to their preference as well as their lifestyle. For me I'm more turned on by small, slim, petite women, yes I love a big butt and nicely shaped boobs, but a petite figure does it for me. The interesting thing is that guys can't change their height or their dick size (the average guy, not a rich one who can afford surgery on their dick) but women can change their weight. Also the body positivity movement is seriously gender skewed, because you don't hear about plus size male models do you? Just something to think about. A woman with her tummy over her breasts is upside down, not fat. I think this is the best answer in the thread.
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"To me bbw snd skinny are 2 extremes. Personally I prefer slimmer women, when it comes to curvy women I have to see pics (face and body) because curvy women in the UK means something totally different to curvy women, back home in the Caribbean where I'm from, for example, Scarlett Johanson, Jennifer Lopez would be considered curvy, a woman with a big tummy or her tummy over her breasts is fat. I don’t believe in fat shaming, but everyone has a right to their preference as well as their lifestyle. For me I'm more turned on by small, slim, petite women, yes I love a big butt and nicely shaped boobs, but a petite figure does it for me. The interesting thing is that guys can't change their height or their dick size (the average guy, not a rich one who can afford surgery on their dick) but women can change their weight. Also the body positivity movement is seriously gender skewed, because you don't hear about plus size male models do you? Just something to think about. A woman with her tummy over her breasts is upside down, not fat. I think this is the best answer in the thread.
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"To me bbw snd skinny are 2 extremes. Personally I prefer slimmer women, when it comes to curvy women I have to see pics (face and body) because curvy women in the UK means something totally different to curvy women, back home in the Caribbean where I'm from, for example, Scarlett Johanson, Jennifer Lopez would be considered curvy, a woman with a big tummy or her tummy over her breasts is fat. I don’t believe in fat shaming, but everyone has a right to their preference as well as their lifestyle. For me I'm more turned on by small, slim, petite women, yes I love a big butt and nicely shaped boobs, but a petite figure does it for me. The interesting thing is that guys can't change their height or their dick size (the average guy, not a rich one who can afford surgery on their dick) but women can change their weight. Also the body positivity movement is seriously gender skewed, because you don't hear about plus size male models do you? Just something to think about. A woman with her tummy over her breasts is upside down, not fat. I think this is the best answer in the thread.
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"To me bbw snd skinny are 2 extremes. Personally I prefer slimmer women, when it comes to curvy women I have to see pics (face and body) because curvy women in the UK means something totally different to curvy women, back home in the Caribbean where I'm from, for example, Scarlett Johanson, Jennifer Lopez would be considered curvy, a woman with a big tummy or her tummy over her breasts is fat. I don’t believe in fat shaming, but everyone has a right to their preference as well as their lifestyle. For me I'm more turned on by small, slim, petite women, yes I love a big butt and nicely shaped boobs, but a petite figure does it for me. The interesting thing is that guys can't change their height or their dick size (the average guy, not a rich one who can afford surgery on their dick) but women can change their weight. Also the body positivity movement is seriously gender skewed, because you don't hear about plus size male models do you? Just something to think about. A woman with her tummy over her breasts is upside down, not fat. I think this is the best answer in the thread.
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Fair enough, I still stand by what I said though "You’re going to have to explain the bit about women who have their belly on top of their tits. I can’t even visualise that. For the belly to be big enough to reach over the tits, the tits would probably be huge too so the belly wouldn’t be able to reach over them. Do you have any examples of this phenomenon that you can share with us? Or was the other poster correct, ther this can only be achieved if the woman is upside down? | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. " To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary" Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! " To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion | |||
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"I thought the background to BBW was because slim women for many years have been the standard and receive a lot of appreciation. The BBW label was just a way of ensuring that the more voluptuous ladies were recognised too. After all the majority of women we see in magazines and ads are slim - it's the default beauty standard." I think that assumes that slim women recognise themselves in those magazine ads. What people often object to isn't big women being called beautiful. It's the unfavourable comparisons other women receive. By all means give affirmation but not by tearing someone else down. If there's a universal balancing scheme you just cancel the positive. | |||
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"I thought the background to BBW was because slim women for many years have been the standard and receive a lot of appreciation. The BBW label was just a way of ensuring that the more voluptuous ladies were recognised too. After all the majority of women we see in magazines and ads are slim - it's the default beauty standard. I think that assumes that slim women recognise themselves in those magazine ads. What people often object to isn't big women being called beautiful. It's the unfavourable comparisons other women receive. By all means give affirmation but not by tearing someone else down. If there's a universal balancing scheme you just cancel the positive." I don't assume slim women recognise themselves - I was just adding some context to how we got here, I guess. I like that Fab is very body positive for people. It's perfectly possible to appreciate a bigger woman without putting others down. Comments or messages like "at last, a real woman" should get short shrift! | |||
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"I thought the background to BBW was because slim women for many years have been the standard and receive a lot of appreciation. The BBW label was just a way of ensuring that the more voluptuous ladies were recognised too. After all the majority of women we see in magazines and ads are slim - it's the default beauty standard. I think that assumes that slim women recognise themselves in those magazine ads. What people often object to isn't big women being called beautiful. It's the unfavourable comparisons other women receive. By all means give affirmation but not by tearing someone else down. If there's a universal balancing scheme you just cancel the positive." Exactly, this thread showed it completely, by having a tag that all large women are beautiful. And well, skinny… those are just skinny women and should be fine with that because tv and media has picked a certain type of woman (a type of woman who’d be beautiful regardless of shape because actresses and models are just objectively beautiful to look at - they just have good genetic make up) Also. I mean not to kick up a fight, but larger men certainly don’t get any positive affirmations. They probably get the worst of it all , just saying | |||
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"Seems you can’t do anything these days without upsetting someone Even a compliment like beautiful is enough to set people off Sticks and stones may break my bones but insults, compliments, descriptions or anything between will cause me to have a mental break down " Oh jeez, I’m definitely not upset it was a freaking observation | |||
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"I thought the background to BBW was because slim women for many years have been the standard and receive a lot of appreciation. The BBW label was just a way of ensuring that the more voluptuous ladies were recognised too. After all the majority of women we see in magazines and ads are slim - it's the default beauty standard. I think that assumes that slim women recognise themselves in those magazine ads. What people often object to isn't big women being called beautiful. It's the unfavourable comparisons other women receive. By all means give affirmation but not by tearing someone else down. If there's a universal balancing scheme you just cancel the positive. I don't assume slim women recognise themselves - I was just adding some context to how we got here, I guess. I like that Fab is very body positive for people. It's perfectly possible to appreciate a bigger woman without putting others down. Comments or messages like "at last, a real woman" should get short shrift! " Oh ok. | |||
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"I thought the background to BBW was because slim women for many years have been the standard and receive a lot of appreciation. The BBW label was just a way of ensuring that the more voluptuous ladies were recognised too. After all the majority of women we see in magazines and ads are slim - it's the default beauty standard. I think that assumes that slim women recognise themselves in those magazine ads. What people often object to isn't big women being called beautiful. It's the unfavourable comparisons other women receive. By all means give affirmation but not by tearing someone else down. If there's a universal balancing scheme you just cancel the positive. Exactly, this thread showed it completely, by having a tag that all large women are beautiful. And well, skinny… those are just skinny women and should be fine with that because tv and media has picked a certain type of woman (a type of woman who’d be beautiful regardless of shape because actresses and models are just objectively beautiful to look at - they just have good genetic make up) Also. I mean not to kick up a fight, but larger men certainly don’t get any positive affirmations. They probably get the worst of it all , just saying " Tbf Kylie, someone else came up with BBW (not just this thread!!) and it doesn't take away from other women. Skinny is a word that doesn't need to be seen as negative. I think you've misconstrued what I said. BBW was just a movement to give bigger women some appreciation at a time when they weren't getting it. It's now used as a label. And actresses and models ARE partly lauded because of their shape because they fit society's ideal. I feel like this has all been said before and does it really matter anyway? Some men like some women regardless of their shape or because of it and vice versa. You're right about bigger guys though. | |||
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" To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion "I agree completely with the sentiment, and object to the term BBW being applied willy nilly. However, I also object to "big", "curvy" and "fat" being used to all mean the same thing, as they don't. Big is a size. Curvy is a shape. And fat is technically a thing, although as it is and has been used as an adjective for quite some time, that's probably a different discussion. I'm big, because I'm tall and large all over. I'm fat, I'm also curvy and I'm sure as shit not beautiful. I'm also not "meat on the bone". I don't object to these threads, because everyone has preferences, including me. But dear god. If you're going to fling labels around at least make them a bit more accurate ffs. And "fat", "skinny"... if we all stopped taking offense at these simple words, those using them to cause offence wouldn't have any power. | |||
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"Seems you can’t do anything these days without upsetting someone Even a compliment like beautiful is enough to set people off Sticks and stones may break my bones but insults, compliments, descriptions or anything between will cause me to have a mental break down Oh jeez, I’m definitely not upset it was a freaking observation "A fairly negative observation If you don’t like the extra affirmation why don’t you add an affirmation of your own to however you identify? Instead of trying to tear down someone else’s? Sexy slim senorita? In a world where we keep telling everyone to be kind, surely that’s the observation to have? | |||
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" To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree completely with the sentiment, and object to the term BBW being applied willy nilly.
However, I also object to "big", "curvy" and "fat" being used to all mean the same thing, as they don't.
Big is a size. Curvy is a shape. And fat is technically a thing, although as it is and has been used as an adjective for quite some time, that's probably a different discussion.
I'm big, because I'm tall and large all over. I'm fat, I'm also curvy and I'm sure as shit not beautiful. I'm also not "meat on the bone".
I don't object to these threads, because everyone has preferences, including me. But dear god. If you're going to fling labels around at least make them a bit more accurate ffs.
And "fat", "skinny"... if we all stopped taking offense at these simple words, those using them to cause offence wouldn't have any power."I don't take offence at words, I take offence at tone and context. I actually rarely take offence because I only really care what people I love think but if I'm going to raise an eyebrow it's time and the context words are used in that will do it, not the actual words themselves. | |||
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" To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree completely with the sentiment, and object to the term BBW being applied willy nilly.
However, I also object to "big", "curvy" and "fat" being used to all mean the same thing, as they don't.
Big is a size. Curvy is a shape. And fat is technically a thing, although as it is and has been used as an adjective for quite some time, that's probably a different discussion.
I'm big, because I'm tall and large all over. I'm fat, I'm also curvy and I'm sure as shit not beautiful. I'm also not "meat on the bone".
I don't object to these threads, because everyone has preferences, including me. But dear god. If you're going to fling labels around at least make them a bit more accurate ffs.
And "fat", "skinny"... if we all stopped taking offense at these simple words, those using them to cause offence wouldn't have any power.
I don't take offence at words, I take offence at tone and context.
I actually rarely take offence because I only really care what people I love think but if I'm going to raise an eyebrow it's time and the context words are used in that will do it, not the actual words themselves."*tone and the context | |||
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" To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree completely with the sentiment, and object to the term BBW being applied willy nilly.
However, I also object to "big", "curvy" and "fat" being used to all mean the same thing, as they don't.
Big is a size. Curvy is a shape. And fat is technically a thing, although as it is and has been used as an adjective for quite some time, that's probably a different discussion.
I'm big, because I'm tall and large all over. I'm fat, I'm also curvy and I'm sure as shit not beautiful. I'm also not "meat on the bone".
I don't object to these threads, because everyone has preferences, including me. But dear god. If you're going to fling labels around at least make them a bit more accurate ffs.
And "fat", "skinny"... if we all stopped taking offense at these simple words, those using them to cause offence wouldn't have any power."I agree with what you said here posh. And the description of size, shape etc Nothing to object really. Regarding stop taking offence, guess it’s easier said than done because everyone has their weak spots I guess. I’m no way skinny now, (thank fuck) but I did have a time where I also had my problems with food, and I was very skin and bones and didn’t recognise it Obviously I wasn’t seeing it, as I was too concerned on why I’d still have some belly fat when sitting down.. but yeah, it is a weak spot now that I recognise the signs. | |||
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"I don't take offence at words, I take offence at tone and context. I actually rarely take offence because I only really care what people I love think but if I'm going to raise an eyebrow it's time and the context words are used in that will do it, not the actual words themselves. I always say this, it is rarely about what is being said but how it is being said that goes a hell of a long way to not causing issues. Some people, will still find fault but a much fewer people in comparison. More often than not posts similar to this will generally ask who prefers X or Y, the OP prefers X but will then add in a slight (or blatant dig at Y. Sometimes quite an insulting dig too. " Exactly. The contrary of the word BBW isn’t exactly skinny. But whatever
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion "I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t. And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to. Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar! | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. " The slim vs Bbw thing isnt a double standard But i agree with you that the term 'skinny' isnt used very fairly here (I personally would never refer to someone as skinny as I feel it holds negative connotations) Slimmer women are societies idea of the ideal woman, lots of them are actually seem as being more attractive simply because they are slim, where as in real life big women don't have that luxury. It's just a phrase which doesn't actually mean that all big women are beautiful, the same way that the term BBC is used when in reality not all black men have big penis, nor does penis size have any colleration to race. | |||
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If you don’t like the extra affirmation why don’t you add an affirmation of your own to however you identify? Instead of trying to tear down someone else’s?
Sexy slim senorita?
In a world where we keep telling everyone to be kind, surely that’s the observation to have?"I didn’t freaking open the thread tho, but that could be a good new term . Triple S
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I agree completely with the sentiment, and object to the term BBW being applied willy nilly.
However, I also object to "big", "curvy" and "fat" being used to all mean the same thing, as they don't.
Big is a size. Curvy is a shape. And fat is technically a thing, although as it is and has been used as an adjective for quite some time, that's probably a different discussion.
I'm big, because I'm tall and large all over. I'm fat, I'm also curvy and I'm sure as shit not beautiful. I'm also not "meat on the bone".
I don't object to these threads, because everyone has preferences, including me. But dear god. If you're going to fling labels around at least make them a bit more accurate ffs.
And "fat", "skinny"... if we all stopped taking offense at these simple words, those using them to cause offence wouldn't have any power.
I don't take offence at words, I take offence at tone and context.
I actually rarely take offence because I only really care what people I love think but if I'm going to raise an eyebrow it's time and the context words are used in that will do it, not the actual words themselves."That's what I'm saying. If everyone could do that then there might be a little less offence taken over things. I call one of my best friends a "skinny twat" because he is what I'd call skinny. I find him sexy as all hell and that is in a big part to do with his body. There are women on here that I'd call skinny, and I find them sexy as hell. The first woman I was ever attracted to I'd say is skinny, and dear lord just thinking about her makes me come over all warm and fuzzy. I've always been upfront about the fact that I don't use fat as a negative word and I object to it being used as such. Same goes for skinny. I've always said you're very wise NC, and once again you've proved why | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar! "It's one song.... | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar! "Uproar? I don’t suppose you’ve listened to much hip hop? You’ve got about 25 years of extremely misogynistic and often violent music that objectified every body type No uproar yet | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
It's one song...."Yeah, but it is not an isolated suggestion, they all big women are to be celebrated, they are all beautiful but virtue of their size, and “skinny” women are the be demonised. Try “perfect 10” if you want a second example. “Anorexic chicks”? | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar! "Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here? | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Uproar?
I don’t suppose you’ve listened to much hip hop?
You’ve got about 25 years of extremely misogynistic and often violent music that objectified every body type
No uproar yet "Hip hop demonises larger women? I don’t think so . If anything, the opposite. Although they refer to all women of all shapes in disgraceful terms. I’m referring to middle of the road music. If Ed sheeran’s next song was about nice slim girls with firm arses, and contains descriptions of feb alternatives in derogatory terms (eg fat bitches), then Loose Women would be on fire taking him down | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here? "For example? My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others. | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others. "Yes of course its possible but there are more songs fat shaming women than there are songs slim shaming women | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Uproar?
I don’t suppose you’ve listened to much hip hop?
You’ve got about 25 years of extremely misogynistic and often violent music that objectified every body type
No uproar yet
Hip hop demonises larger women? I don’t think so . If anything, the opposite. Although they refer to all women of all shapes in disgraceful terms.
I’m referring to middle of the road music. If Ed sheeran’s next song was about nice slim girls with firm arses, and contains descriptions of feb alternatives in derogatory terms (eg fat bitches), then Loose Women would be on fire taking him down "Lots of rap and hip hop songs talking down on fat women And why wouldn't you class hip hop as 'middle of the road' ? Just as many people listen to it as they do to Ed Sheeran | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others. "It actually isn't clear because you are giving a one sided argument. Using perfect 10 for example a song from 1998 over 20 years ago isn't much of an argument. In the context of the 90's where hero in chic was all the rage with Kate Moss look being popular and what you should aspire to be. The song perfect 10 was a reaction to that pressure to look like that. You focused on one phrase of a song, instead of "cause we love our love, in different sizes". I very much doubt those lyrics would be written today. | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others. "Exactly!! | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others.
It actually isn't clear because you are giving a one sided argument.
Using perfect 10 for example a song from 1998 over 20 years ago isn't much of an argument. In the context of the 90's where hero in chic was all the rage with Kate Moss look being popular and what you should aspire to be. The song perfect 10 was a reaction to that pressure to look like that. You focused on one phrase of a song, instead of "cause we love our love, in different sizes". I very much doubt those lyrics would be written today.
"Just wanna be that bitch who says.. btw media thrown at ALL of us, images of women who are highly unachievable. Not only body wise, but beauty wise. You definitely had slim or skinny women look in the mirror and think “maybe if I’ll lose some more and avoid eating at night, I’ll be beautiful and look just like Kate Moss (or insert another slim lady)” Well, clearly that’s not the case even (even if they tried) for majority of women out there, whether slim or skinny or curvy or larger sized, regardless of size. Obviously nowadays the beauty standard has changed and it’s Kim Kardashian and curvy women with tiny waists and huge backs to be the ones leading the game in the media Just saying | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Uproar?
I don’t suppose you’ve listened to much hip hop?
You’ve got about 25 years of extremely misogynistic and often violent music that objectified every body type
No uproar yet
Hip hop demonises larger women? I don’t think so . If anything, the opposite. Although they refer to all women of all shapes in disgraceful terms.
I’m referring to middle of the road music. If Ed sheeran’s next song was about nice slim girls with firm arses, and contains descriptions of feb alternatives in derogatory terms (eg fat bitches), then Loose Women would be on fire taking him down
Lots of rap and hip hop songs talking down on fat women
And why wouldn't you class hip hop as 'middle of the road' ?
Just as many people listen to it as they do to Ed Sheeran "Hip-hop is not middle of the road. If you think it is, then you don’t know what middle of the road music is. Yes, hip-hop is mainstream. But it is not middle of the road. | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others.
It actually isn't clear because you are giving a one sided argument.
Using perfect 10 for example a song from 1998 over 20 years ago isn't much of an argument. In the context of the 90's where hero in chic was all the rage with Kate Moss look being popular and what you should aspire to be. The song perfect 10 was a reaction to that pressure to look like that. You focused on one phrase of a song, instead of "cause we love our love, in different sizes". I very much doubt those lyrics would be written today.
Just wanna be that bitch who says.. btw media thrown at ALL of us, images of women who are highly unachievable. Not only body wise, but beauty wise.
You definitely had slim or skinny women look in the mirror and think “maybe if I’ll lose some more and avoid eating at night, I’ll be beautiful and look just like Kate Moss (or insert another slim lady)”
Well, clearly that’s not the case even (even if they tried) for majority of women out there, whether slim or skinny or curvy or larger sized, regardless of size.
Obviously nowadays the beauty standard has changed and it’s Kim Kardashian and curvy women with tiny waists and huge backs to be the ones leading the game in the media
Just saying "I totally agree with you. What I meant was that being called anorexic back then was sometimes used as compliment. I once upon a time massively thin in the 90's, with an eating disorder to match. And I still thought I was fat. I guess I've been on both sides, I've been incredibly thin, I've been much much bigger than I am now. So I've had it at all angles at some point in my life. But personally I found when I was a lot larger, people treated me the worst. Being called fat bitch etc when just walking down a road hurts. The presumption I was lazy and thick and that somehow my weight affected my ability to do my work. These are my personal thoughts and experiences. But for me my life is easier when I am slimmer. | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Uproar?
I don’t suppose you’ve listened to much hip hop?
You’ve got about 25 years of extremely misogynistic and often violent music that objectified every body type
No uproar yet
Hip hop demonises larger women? I don’t think so . If anything, the opposite. Although they refer to all women of all shapes in disgraceful terms.
I’m referring to middle of the road music. If Ed sheeran’s next song was about nice slim girls with firm arses, and contains descriptions of feb alternatives in derogatory terms (eg fat bitches), then Loose Women would be on fire taking him down
Lots of rap and hip hop songs talking down on fat women
And why wouldn't you class hip hop as 'middle of the road' ?
Just as many people listen to it as they do to Ed Sheeran
Hip-hop is not middle of the road. If you think it is, then you don’t know what middle of the road music is.
Yes, hip-hop is mainstream. But it is not middle of the road. "I don't know what middle of the road is hence why I asked the question | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others.
It actually isn't clear because you are giving a one sided argument.
Using perfect 10 for example a song from 1998 over 20 years ago isn't much of an argument. In the context of the 90's where hero in chic was all the rage with Kate Moss look being popular and what you should aspire to be. The song perfect 10 was a reaction to that pressure to look like that. You focused on one phrase of a song, instead of "cause we love our love, in different sizes". I very much doubt those lyrics would be written today.
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others.
It actually isn't clear because you are giving a one sided argument.
Using perfect 10 for example a song from 1998 over 20 years ago isn't much of an argument. In the context of the 90's where hero in chic was all the rage with Kate Moss look being popular and what you should aspire to be. The song perfect 10 was a reaction to that pressure to look like that. You focused on one phrase of a song, instead of "cause we love our love, in different sizes". I very much doubt those lyrics would be written today.
If you really look at the lyrics, it’s saying that they love their love in different sizes ... except slim. "Because it's a conversation between a larger couple. That is their preference. | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others.
It actually isn't clear because you are giving a one sided argument.
Using perfect 10 for example a song from 1998 over 20 years ago isn't much of an argument. In the context of the 90's where hero in chic was all the rage with Kate Moss look being popular and what you should aspire to be. The song perfect 10 was a reaction to that pressure to look like that. You focused on one phrase of a song, instead of "cause we love our love, in different sizes". I very much doubt those lyrics would be written today.
If you really look at the lyrics, it’s saying that they love their love in different sizes ... except slim. "You're really hung up on this one song and seem to be completely dismissing the songs that talk down on fat women Far more song out there that compliment slimmer women than dont | |||
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Uproar?
I don’t suppose you’ve listened to much hip hop?
You’ve got about 25 years of extremely misogynistic and often violent music that objectified every body type
No uproar yet
Hip hop demonises larger women? I don’t think so . If anything, the opposite. Although they refer to all women of all shapes in disgraceful terms.
I’m referring to middle of the road music. If Ed sheeran’s next song was about nice slim girls with firm arses, and contains descriptions of feb alternatives in derogatory terms (eg fat bitches), then Loose Women would be on fire taking him down
Lots of rap and hip hop songs talking down on fat women
And why wouldn't you class hip hop as 'middle of the road' ?
Just as many people listen to it as they do to Ed Sheeran
Hip-hop is not middle of the road. If you think it is, then you don’t know what middle of the road music is.
Yes, hip-hop is mainstream. But it is not middle of the road.
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"I find the terminology interesting. Large women are referred to as BBW’s, so all of them are beautiful. But at the other end of the scale (per OP), we have “skinny” women. Not skinny beautiful women? The perception I get is that all women are beautiful as long as they are big. Slim /skinny ladies don’t seem to have the same plaudits poured their way. Why is that? I know it’s only a pop song, but Megan traynor’s song, all about that base celebrates larger women, but rather than celebrating all women, it vilifies slim ladies as “skinny bitches”. To me, this is a massive double standard ... automatically beautiful if you’re big, but fair game to be vilified as a bitch if you’re small. To be fair, I always wondered why BBW stood for big beautiful woman. Thought for ages the second B was referred to the colour of her skin. Like BBW or BWW But why is one just skinny or slim and the other is big beautiful. Almost feels like an extra affirmation to me, that seems to be unnecessary Yeah how dare those greedy little BBWs get an E tea affirmation! How dare they! To be fair, just because someone has a specific shape doesn’t particularly get the beauty card handed over. But that’s just my opinion
I agree. No idea why larger ladies get that extra B for free and are automatically deemed to be beautiful, but ladies of other physiques don’t.
And in celebrating order ladies as automatically being beautiful, this often stays into demonising petite ladies ... eg the “skinny bitches” like I referred to.
Just imagine if that song was the other way around, celebrating women with a taut midriff and firm ass and then slagging off “flabby bitches” in the next verse! There’d be uproar!
Literally hundreds of songs across multiple genres that talk down on fat women so not sure what point you're trying to make here?
For example?
My point, in case it wasn’t clear, is that it is possible to celebrate one body type without shitting on others.
It actually isn't clear because you are giving a one sided argument.
Using perfect 10 for example a song from 1998 over 20 years ago isn't much of an argument. In the context of the 90's where hero in chic was all the rage with Kate Moss look being popular and what you should aspire to be. The song perfect 10 was a reaction to that pressure to look like that. You focused on one phrase of a song, instead of "cause we love our love, in different sizes". I very much doubt those lyrics would be written today.
If you really look at the lyrics, it’s saying that they love their love in different sizes ... except slim.
You're really hung up on this one song and seem to be completely dismissing the songs that talk down on fat women
Far more song out there that compliment slimmer women than dont"I gave perfect 10 as an example because I had previously quite All About That Base, and had been told “that’s only one song”. No, I am not obsessed with perfect 10. I’m still waiting for examples of songs that do the opposite, lauding slim girls and slagging off big girls, despite being assure that there are hundreds. Best anyone had managed is to mention hip-hop, on the basis that it debases all women, but web then the centre typically lauds big girls. | |||
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