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"Me no understand?  you will look at your baby and wonder how you can hurt such a little being...just hope the guilt doesnt make you bring out your service weapon and use it on yourself..."
Ahh gotcha 
Yes, true I guess of any war. The ones authorising it are never the ones on the battlefield, are they? |
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They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
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"Me no understand? you will look at your baby and wonder how you can hurt such a little being...just hope the guilt doesnt make you bring out your service weapon and use it on yourself...
Ahh gotcha
Yes, true I guess of any war. The ones authorising it are never the ones on the battlefield, are they? "
The OP hoping they go outside and the use of the word brave suggests they believe the soldiers are the guilty ones ... |
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
Mr"
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Many Russians will not support this invasion but if you're in the armed forces you can't exactly refuse to do your job... |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not "
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the cause |
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the cause"
what the soldier does is too extreme for any human...you cannot unforget... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the cause"
you would kill or risk you or your mates being killed i think the logics as simple as that really going all the way back to the greeks protect the man to your left |
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
Mr
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Many Russians will not support this invasion but if you're in the armed forces you can't exactly refuse to do your job... "
fighting soldiers ok...kids...oldens....??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
Mr
This.
Many Russians will not support this invasion but if you're in the armed forces you can't exactly refuse to do your job... fighting soldiers ok...kids...oldens....???"
Can I just ask have you served? |
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the cause"
Same. My heart goes out to those in times of conscription, but I can't get my head around voluntarily signing up to obey any order based on political whim. |
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
Mr
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Many Russians will not support this invasion but if you're in the armed forces you can't exactly refuse to do your job... "
you may be suprised...?? |
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
Mr
This.
Many Russians will not support this invasion but if you're in the armed forces you can't exactly refuse to do your job... fighting soldiers ok...kids...oldens....???
Can I just ask have you served?"
no.i have not..lots of screaming terrorised kids on tv today..lots of soldiers unwittingly putting grief in their debt bank.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not just hope you dont kill a toddler..then have one a few years later...???"
eh why would i kill a toddler?
I dont get your point at all soldiers dont sign up to kill children they sign up to serve there country to feel a sense of pride the soldiers wouldnt be there if not for the politicians and higher ups who create war strategy i dont see your logic not sure i ever will |
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"Most soldiers i know stay out of the politics they fight to serve once there they fight for there mates "
i hope they enjoy viewing of screaming tots today then..very brave russian soldiers..and their corageous leader..
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the causeyou would kill or risk you or your mates being killed i think the logics as simple as that really going all the way back to the greeks protect the man to your left "
Yeah, I get the kill or be killed and the protect bit- when under fire. What I struggle with sometimes is the mindset that one can be directed to kill and murder and dismiss it as simply following orders- especially for questionable cause and objectives. |
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the causeyou would kill or risk you or your mates being killed i think the logics as simple as that really going all the way back to the greeks protect the man to your left
Yeah, I get the kill or be killed and the protect bit- when under fire. What I struggle with sometimes is the mindset that one can be directed to kill and murder and dismiss it as simply following orders- especially for questionable cause and objectives."
Erm Russia is very different from this country! The kill or be killed would apply to them I would imagine if they don’t do as they’re told! |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the cause
Same. My heart goes out to those in times of conscription, but I can't get my head around voluntarily signing up to obey any order based on political whim. "
Certain types of people seem ok with this, country and nationalism is more important than lives of strangers.
Others are probably very young and just looking for a way out without thinking it through. |
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the causeyou would kill or risk you or your mates being killed i think the logics as simple as that really going all the way back to the greeks protect the man to your left
Yeah, I get the kill or be killed and the protect bit- when under fire. What I struggle with sometimes is the mindset that one can be directed to kill and murder and dismiss it as simply following orders- especially for questionable cause and objectives.
Erm Russia is very different from this country! The kill or be killed would apply to them I would imagine if they don’t do as they’re told!"
true..but if i was a soldier and saw them kids today ..that would haunt me years later...no winners in any of this..? |
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the causeyou would kill or risk you or your mates being killed i think the logics as simple as that really going all the way back to the greeks protect the man to your left
Yeah, I get the kill or be killed and the protect bit- when under fire. What I struggle with sometimes is the mindset that one can be directed to kill and murder and dismiss it as simply following orders- especially for questionable cause and objectives.
Erm Russia is very different from this country! The kill or be killed would apply to them I would imagine if they don’t do as they’re told!true..but if i was a soldier and saw them kids today ..that would haunt me years later...no winners in any of this..?"
it would haunt anyone but i doubt the russian propaganda machine will ever let any of them see it |
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the cause
Same. My heart goes out to those in times of conscription, but I can't get my head around voluntarily signing up to obey any order based on political whim.
Certain types of people seem ok with this, country and nationalism is more important than lives of strangers.
Others are probably very young and just looking for a way out without thinking it through. "
The second part I can also get actually. A steady career and training for people who might not have had much of a future otherwise. I just can't do the blanket hero worship of armed services when there's no identifiable bad guy that made them sign up. I know this is a VERY unpopular opinion generally though. |
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the causeyou would kill or risk you or your mates being killed i think the logics as simple as that really going all the way back to the greeks protect the man to your left
Yeah, I get the kill or be killed and the protect bit- when under fire. What I struggle with sometimes is the mindset that one can be directed to kill and murder and dismiss it as simply following orders- especially for questionable cause and objectives.
Erm Russia is very different from this country! The kill or be killed would apply to them I would imagine if they don’t do as they’re told!true..but if i was a soldier and saw them kids today ..that would haunt me years later...no winners in any of this..?"
Oh no there really isn’t. True for any soldier though. |
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
Mr
This.
Many Russians will not support this invasion but if you're in the armed forces you can't exactly refuse to do your job... "
Most Russians don't and for the interviews I've seen with Russian civilians in Russia they are also in shock and devastated plus they have started demonstrating in the capital. |
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"Tad harsh there doing the job they are ordered to do it doesnt matter if they believe in the war or not
That's something that makes me wonder about conflict. Just how effective the brainwashing/training is to induce one human to murder another without questioning the validity or merit of the cause
Same. My heart goes out to those in times of conscription, but I can't get my head around voluntarily signing up to obey any order based on political whim.
Certain types of people seem ok with this, country and nationalism is more important than lives of strangers.
Others are probably very young and just looking for a way out without thinking it through.
The second part I can also get actually. A steady career and training for people who might not have had much of a future otherwise. I just can't do the blanket hero worship of armed services when there's no identifiable bad guy that made them sign up. I know this is a VERY unpopular opinion generally though. "
It's one I share 
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
Mr
This.
Many Russians will not support this invasion but if you're in the armed forces you can't exactly refuse to do your job... "
Apparently a squadron of the Russian 74th brigade surrendered precisely because they refused to fashion ukranians. This is treated as confirmed by various news outlets including the bbc |
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
Mr
This.
Many Russians will not support this invasion but if you're in the armed forces you can't exactly refuse to do your job...
Apparently a squadron of the Russian 74th brigade surrendered precisely because they refused to fashion ukranians. This is treated as confirmed by various news outlets including the bbc"
Do you have a link for that as I've been trying to find what you have just said but might be googling the wrong thing as nothing is coming up. |
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"just hope the guilt doesnt make you bring out your service weapon and use it on yourself..."
With your opening post I didn't know what you were on about, but this cleared it up. You're just a massive see you next Tuesday. You honestly think all soldiers sign up (if they even get the choice of signing up, and they're not conscripted) to go and kill babies?
I can only hope you're a massive troll, because if you're genuine.... |
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"just hope the guilt doesnt make you bring out your service weapon and use it on yourself...
With your opening post I didn't know what you were on about, but this cleared it up. You're just a massive see you next Tuesday. You honestly think all soldiers sign up (if they even get the choice of signing up, and they're not conscripted) to go and kill babies?
I can only hope you're a massive troll, because if you're genuine.... "
Theyre not trolling. Its simply charged righteous ignorance |
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Not following a direct order is a court-martial offence. I imagine if they don’t do as they are told they will be shot. So it barely leaves them any choice. |
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By *ltra72Man
over a year ago
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"They're soldiers. Do you believe every member of the British forces who went into Iraq on the back of Tony Blairs lies should consider shooting themselves?
They're not Russians, they're humans, no different to you or I.
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"just hope the guilt doesnt make you bring out your service weapon and use it on yourself...
With your opening post I didn't know what you were on about, but this cleared it up. You're just a massive see you next Tuesday. You honestly think all soldiers sign up (if they even get the choice of signing up, and they're not conscripted) to go and kill babies?
I can only hope you're a massive troll, because if you're genuine.... "
go tell a little tot that in the year 2022..and its mother...??i understand your views though... |
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"just hope the guilt doesnt make you bring out your service weapon and use it on yourself...
With your opening post I didn't know what you were on about, but this cleared it up. You're just a massive see you next Tuesday. You honestly think all soldiers sign up (if they even get the choice of signing up, and they're not conscripted) to go and kill babies?
I can only hope you're a massive troll, because if you're genuine.... "
Not a troll, just uneducated
Blaming the actions of putin on the soldiers  |
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Having visited Russia, I found its people incredibly friendly and welcoming. They look after a number of war memorials erected to British was dead (and did through the Cold War)
Don’t forget that the sanction will hit them hardest. They voted for Putin based on the best media misinformation campaigns (where the Brexit campaign learned its lesson) around and that polls were rigged |
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