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over a year ago
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So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...  |
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over a year ago
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I don't wear make up daily anymore. I only use of when I'm going out somewhere nice or meeting friends/family/fab meets.
I like the fact that it makes me feel and look better in myself and because I don't use it daily it makes me feel the occasion when I'm wearing it that little bit more special.
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Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend. |
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend. "
smells, us men (we us bearded men anyway) rely on how we smell, well that and a good collection of braces  |
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Never wear any! My youngest daughter is 22 and wears lots! When she has none looks like a different person! Looks gourgeous with or without! I prefer how she looks without! But she likes to wear it that's what matters ! X |
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend. smells, us men (we us bearded men anyway) rely on how we smell, well that and a good collection of braces "
Ladies, honestly, trust me, us unbearded men like to smell nice too! Well some of us. Most of the time..
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It is a good question (why?) and I’m no anthropologist but it’s been the case for a long time for ladies to wear make up, so I guess the simplistic answer to ‘why’ ladies wear it today is because they’ve been conditioned by society throughout their life to do so!
If it’s something they like to do, gives them confidence or makes them feel more attractive then all the more power to them.
Depending on the level of make up, as the OP says you can totally transform your look so much so it’s almost like wearing a mask .. you become unrecognisable from your natural self.
What I do find sad though is those that are like “oh my god, I can’t go out in case someone sees me without my makeup!” .. like they’re ashamed of their natural self. That’s when I find it problematic.
But yeah, their lives, their choice. If it makes them feel better about themselves it’s all good  |
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this... "
We don't rely on it. We choose to wear it for many different reasons. Maybe because we have been made to feel like we should by..... Ummmmmm...... The untouched gods that are men 
In all seriousness though, people may have conditions such as rosacia that they want to (not have to!) cover up. Or birth marks or acne scars etc.
Some people, like me, may just love thd artistry and looks they create wearing different types of make up.
Some may have body dysmorphia about certain parts of their face and make up is a pretty inexpensive way of dealing with that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
We don't rely on it. We choose to wear it for many different reasons. Maybe because we have been made to feel like we should by..... Ummmmmm...... The untouched gods that are men
In all seriousness though, people may have conditions such as rosacia that they want to (not have to!) cover up. Or birth marks or acne scars etc.
Some people, like me, may just love thd artistry and looks they create wearing different types of make up.
Some may have body dysmorphia about certain parts of their face and make up is a pretty inexpensive way of dealing with that. "
I cover up my rosacea and wear little. Just to make me feel less self-conscious. But my daughter really enjoys experimenting with all sorts of looks. She gets genuine pleasure from it. |
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
We don't rely on it. We choose to wear it for many different reasons. Maybe because we have been made to feel like we should by..... Ummmmmm...... The untouched gods that are men
In all seriousness though, people may have conditions such as rosacia that they want to (not have to!) cover up. Or birth marks or acne scars etc.
Some people, like me, may just love thd artistry and looks they create wearing different types of make up.
Some may have body dysmorphia about certain parts of their face and make up is a pretty inexpensive way of dealing with that.
I cover up my rosacea and wear little. Just to make me feel less self-conscious. But my daughter really enjoys experimenting with all sorts of looks. She gets genuine pleasure from it. "
Same. I'd love to do a SFX course and learn prosthetics etc |
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"It is a good question (why?) and I’m no anthropologist but it’s been the case for a long time for ladies to wear make up, so I guess the simplistic answer to ‘why’ ladies wear it today is because they’ve been conditioned by society throughout their life to do so!
If it’s something they like to do, gives them confidence or makes them feel more attractive then all the more power to them.
Depending on the level of make up, as the OP says you can totally transform your look so much so it’s almost like wearing a mask .. you become unrecognisable from your natural self.
What I do find sad though is those that are like “oh my god, I can’t go out in case someone sees me without my makeup!” .. like they’re ashamed of their natural self. That’s when I find it problematic.
But yeah, their lives, their choice. If it makes them feel better about themselves it’s all good "
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I get a few queer looks when I go out dressed as Linda wearing my makeup…
I think I would get an awful lot more queer looks if I went out as Linda with no makeup!
Mind I would be good to place on your mantlepiece to keep your kids away from the fire |
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"I don't wear make up daily anymore. I only use of when I'm going out somewhere nice or meeting friends/family/fab meets.
I like the fact that it makes me feel and look better in myself and because I don't use it daily it makes me feel the occasion when I'm wearing it that little bit more special.
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Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there  |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there "
Depends on the context I guess, if he’s saying it to force a behaviour then I can understand where you’re coming from.
But expressing an opinion / preference is allowed isn’t it?
My other half might ask me if I prefer the red or blue dress. Or lots of make up or a more natural look. Am I a misogynist for having a view?  |
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Make up and plastic surgery both fall into the same logical fallacy
Good make up / good plastic surgery isn’t obvious
People often have a vendetta against makeup or plastic surgery, what they fail to realise is that if you can obviously spot either, it’s not good, it’s meant to enhance a natural look, not be easy to spot
Whatever makes someone happy is a good phrase to use, but the way society is going I wonder if excessive makeup use is making people happy, or is it a chore, something they need to do to feel accepted. Are they afraid to be seen without it? Is it an addiction that helps sure their beauty anxiety? |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
Depends on the context I guess, if he’s saying it to force a behaviour then I can understand where you’re coming from.
But expressing an opinion / preference is allowed isn’t it?
My other half might ask me if I prefer the red or blue dress. Or lots of make up or a more natural look. Am I a misogynist for having a view? "
It IS controlling and coercive behaviour and comes under the heating of domestic violence! Yes it is misogynistic |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
Depends on the context I guess, if he’s saying it to force a behaviour then I can understand where you’re coming from.
But expressing an opinion / preference is allowed isn’t it?
My other half might ask me if I prefer the red or blue dress. Or lots of make up or a more natural look. Am I a misogynist for having a view?
It IS controlling and coercive behaviour and comes under the heating of domestic violence! Yes it is misogynistic "
Domestic violence for suggesting I prefer the red dress? Wow!  |
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"Make up and plastic surgery both fall into the same logical fallacy
Good make up / good plastic surgery isn’t obvious
People often have a vendetta against makeup or plastic surgery, what they fail to realise is that if you can obviously spot either, it’s not good, it’s meant to enhance a natural look, not be easy to spot
Whatever makes someone happy is a good phrase to use, but the way society is going I wonder if excessive makeup use is making people happy, or is it a chore, something they need to do to feel accepted. Are they afraid to be seen without it? Is it an addiction that helps sure their beauty anxiety? "
If it makes someone happy to have surgery or wear make up, it no business of yours. It’s up to the person. Would you like it if they said “your duck is too small you should get it extended?” |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there "
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick."
It starts from the make up, then drifts onto “you’re wearing that?” To “you look like a whore” and then culminates into something far worse. But to answer your original question, yes a man who criticised your appearance/style etc is a misogynistic prick and it IS domestic violence. This is a fact. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick.
It starts from the make up, then drifts onto “you’re wearing that?” To “you look like a whore” and then culminates into something far worse. But to answer your original question, yes a man who criticised your appearance/style etc is a misogynistic prick and it IS domestic violence. This is a fact. "
Mitzi is this triggering you? I'm not saying I don't agree with some of your view but you seem upset by the topic. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Some people seem to be missing the point.
It's not about telling others not to wear make up, that's your choice which nobody can take away from you, however it's you as an individual why do you wear it.
As people have said, do some ladies wear it on a self conscious level/ like the artistic design of it. On TV all genders wear it to enhance their look for lighting. I sometimes wear eye liner to enhance my eyes.  |
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"Make up and plastic surgery both fall into the same logical fallacy
Good make up / good plastic surgery isn’t obvious
People often have a vendetta against makeup or plastic surgery, what they fail to realise is that if you can obviously spot either, it’s not good, it’s meant to enhance a natural look, not be easy to spot
Whatever makes someone happy is a good phrase to use, but the way society is going I wonder if excessive makeup use is making people happy, or is it a chore, something they need to do to feel accepted. Are they afraid to be seen without it? Is it an addiction that helps sure their beauty anxiety?
If it makes someone happy to have surgery or wear make up, it no business of yours. It’s up to the person. Would you like it if they said “your duck is too small you should get it extended?” "
Not gonna bother since you’ve obviously failed to read and comprehend what I’ve written
Good luck to you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick.
It starts from the make up, then drifts onto “you’re wearing that?” To “you look like a whore” and then culminates into something far worse. But to answer your original question, yes a man who criticised your appearance/style etc is a misogynistic prick and it IS domestic violence. This is a fact. "
I know this isn’t a reply to me, but like I said above surely it’s about context.
*IF* it’s about forcing a behaviour or demeaning someone’s appearance then, yes, I can see your point. And that would be in the context of a dysfunctional relationship.
But surely functional relationships work best when you can be honest and supportive.
Answering a question such as “Do you think I look better with lots of make up on or a little bit” doesn’t make anyone abusive if they give their honest opinion, in my view.
If they were to demand they look a certain way then that is unacceptable.
Having said that, my other half hates it when I haven’t shaved for a few days and let’s me know about it too! I haven’t once considered this abuse. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick.
It starts from the make up, then drifts onto “you’re wearing that?” To “you look like a whore” and then culminates into something far worse. But to answer your original question, yes a man who criticised your appearance/style etc is a misogynistic prick and it IS domestic violence. This is a fact.
Mitzi is this triggering you? I'm not saying I don't agree with some of your view but you seem upset by the topic. "
Critiquing someone’s appearance now falls under domestic violence?
She sounds insane |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick.
It starts from the make up, then drifts onto “you’re wearing that?” To “you look like a whore” and then culminates into something far worse. But to answer your original question, yes a man who criticised your appearance/style etc is a misogynistic prick and it IS domestic violence. This is a fact.
Mitzi is this triggering you? I'm not saying I don't agree with some of your view but you seem upset by the topic.
Critiquing someone’s appearance now falls under domestic violence?
She sounds insane "
It’s called the law….. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick.
It starts from the make up, then drifts onto “you’re wearing that?” To “you look like a whore” and then culminates into something far worse. But to answer your original question, yes a man who criticised your appearance/style etc is a misogynistic prick and it IS domestic violence. This is a fact.
Mitzi is this triggering you? I'm not saying I don't agree with some of your view but you seem upset by the topic.
Critiquing someone’s appearance now falls under domestic violence?
She sounds insane
It’s called the law….."
It might fall under the umbrella of domestic violence if it’s accompanied by a long list of controlling/abusive behaviours
But simply critiquing someone’s appearance, or expressing a preference in a certain appearance, doesn’t fall under domestic abuse definitions
Sorry to tell you, you can have someone jailed for saying they prefer someone without making up |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
Depends on the context I guess, if he’s saying it to force a behaviour then I can understand where you’re coming from.
But expressing an opinion / preference is allowed isn’t it?
My other half might ask me if I prefer the red or blue dress. Or lots of make up or a more natural look. Am I a misogynist for having a view?
It IS controlling and coercive behaviour and comes under the heating of domestic violence! Yes it is misogynistic "
What!!!!??? Give me strength! |
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I generally don't wear much day to day, saying that even when going out or meeting someone my make up is very minimal.
My FWB says he loves the fact I feel comfortable to be around him with no make up on and my hair in a messy updo....he is by no means a misogynistic controlling man x |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick.
It starts from the make up, then drifts onto “you’re wearing that?” To “you look like a whore” and then culminates into something far worse. But to answer your original question, yes a man who criticised your appearance/style etc is a misogynistic prick and it IS domestic violence. This is a fact. "
Been there, you can't wear that it's too revealing. Seriously had to wear polo necks to appease the ex in the end.
But and this is a massive but, M my current partner does prefere minimal make up, not just on me but on women in general. That doesn't make him a controlling arse, if anything he'd probably prefer me to wear more revealing clothes. So sometimes it is just about a preference for a certain look.
Hope you're ok, it's hard to live your life querying if he's going to kick off just because of the way you look. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
Depends on the context I guess, if he’s saying it to force a behaviour then I can understand where you’re coming from.
But expressing an opinion / preference is allowed isn’t it?
My other half might ask me if I prefer the red or blue dress. Or lots of make up or a more natural look. Am I a misogynist for having a view?
It IS controlling and coercive behaviour and comes under the heating of domestic violence! Yes it is misogynistic
What!!!!??? Give me strength!"
It is true though… |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
Depends on the context I guess, if he’s saying it to force a behaviour then I can understand where you’re coming from.
But expressing an opinion / preference is allowed isn’t it?
My other half might ask me if I prefer the red or blue dress. Or lots of make up or a more natural look. Am I a misogynist for having a view?
It IS controlling and coercive behaviour and comes under the heating of domestic violence! Yes it is misogynistic
What!!!!??? Give me strength!
It is true though…"
It’s absolutely not true. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
What about the context? I wear makeup to cover up rosacea. If a FWB said to me that I I looked great without it and I'd no need to cover up - I think he'd be saying it to encourage me to be more positive about myself and that he found me attractive without makeup. I do know the kind of misogyny you mean but it's a bit strong that every man who says something like that is being a misogynist prick.
It starts from the make up, then drifts onto “you’re wearing that?” To “you look like a whore” and then culminates into something far worse. But to answer your original question, yes a man who criticised your appearance/style etc is a misogynistic prick and it IS domestic violence. This is a fact.
Been there, you can't wear that it's too revealing. Seriously had to wear polo necks to appease the ex in the end.
But and this is a massive but, M my current partner does prefere minimal make up, not just on me but on women in general. That doesn't make him a controlling arse, if anything he'd probably prefer me to wear more revealing clothes. So sometimes it is just about a preference for a certain look.
Hope you're ok, it's hard to live your life querying if he's going to kick off just because of the way you look. "
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over a year ago
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There are many reasons people wear it..it’s like a camouflage for some, hides scars or imperfections they aren’t comfortable with or on the flip side to enhance the bits they love, it’s an experiment for others a creation, a hobby, an art almost or a seduction when your dressed up in a killer outfit and feel like you could take on the world with a bit of glam war paint!
I find it playful, experimental, fun…I love applying different looks and playing around with colour - Im a very creative person it’s an expression of my personality but I don’t need it to face the day, I wear it when I choose and I wear it because I enjoy it and why the hell not
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"I'd like to turn this question around to you OP. Why is it women want to spend time and effort to enhance their looks with make up and men don't?"
I’ll take a shot
Women attract largely by physical appearance. So they enhance that
Men attract largely by social standing, resources, humour/wit/power etc etc
Buying a nice watch or a flash car is mens equivalent of wearing make up. They are ways of showing “I have resources/power”
Obviously taking in general terms. Personality applies to everyone, just taking in the initial stages of attraction |
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"I'd like to turn this question around to you OP. Why is it women want to spend time and effort to enhance their looks with make up and men don't?"
Probably because "men" still don't feel comfortable wearing makeup. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
Depends on the context I guess, if he’s saying it to force a behaviour then I can understand where you’re coming from.
But expressing an opinion / preference is allowed isn’t it?
My other half might ask me if I prefer the red or blue dress. Or lots of make up or a more natural look. Am I a misogynist for having a view?
It IS controlling and coercive behaviour and comes under the heating of domestic violence! Yes it is misogynistic
What!!!!??? Give me strength!
It is true though…"
I get you've probably had bad experiences in the past on this subject but you surely can't lump all men into this category??
A former fab friend of mine looked gorgeous natural and one morning I complimented her on how she looked lovely natural that morning and it was meant as a compliment and was taken as such and that was it ..
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
Depends on the context I guess, if he’s saying it to force a behaviour then I can understand where you’re coming from.
But expressing an opinion / preference is allowed isn’t it?
My other half might ask me if I prefer the red or blue dress. Or lots of make up or a more natural look. Am I a misogynist for having a view?
It IS controlling and coercive behaviour and comes under the heating of domestic violence! Yes it is misogynistic "
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Good makeup can correct our beauty flaws, skin imperfections, too prominent nose, sparse eyebrows. I personally know many men who use foundation and concealer. Just like we choose clothes that emphasize our strengths and mask our shortcomings, makeup works in the same way. Unfortunately, many people have problems with self-acceptance resulting from the pressure of the environment and the media, so they help themselves with makeup. Some people manifest who they are with makeup. I love my makeup, but I don't wear it every day. |
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"I'd like to turn this question around to you OP. Why is it women want to spend time and effort to enhance their looks with make up and men don't?
Probably because "men" still don't feel comfortable wearing makeup."
I agree with you. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there "
I actually agree with this. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
I actually agree with this."
The only bit I agree with is that women should wear whatever she wants.
Just because a man says a woman looks lovely without makeup doesn't make him a "misogynistic, coercive controlling little prick" x |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
I actually agree with this.
The only bit I agree with is that women should wear whatever she wants.
Just because a man says a woman looks lovely without makeup doesn't make him a "misogynistic, coercive controlling little prick" x"
I also agree all women are different with regards to make up. Plus I kind of want my other half to think I'm beautiful when we wake up together. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
I actually agree with this."
There's often a creepy controlling undertone to it.
I do know it's not always intended that way, but it lands wrong with me.
My compromise (because I know, I know, "not all men") is to just put it in the spam folder in my brain, along with my family's wild political views, unsolicited demands about the contents of my uterus, and the street preachers screeching about hellfire and damnation. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
I actually agree with this.
The only bit I agree with is that women should wear whatever she wants.
Just because a man says a woman looks lovely without makeup doesn't make him a "misogynistic, coercive controlling little prick" x
I also agree all women are different with regards to make up. Plus I kind of want my other half to think I'm beautiful when we wake up together. "
Exactly x I can see the other argument if the guy was to say "get that muck off your face or ffs put some slap on" then yes he is a prick x |
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Oh dear, another thread arguing virtually about the same thing. I usually ignore such argumentative threads but thought I would voice my opinion anywat. It's realy up to the individual what they wear and feel comfortable with. If they ask for an opinion from a loved one then it's up to them. Personally I would always say 'it's whatever makes you feel good and happy with'. Why something as simple as that can yet again be taken to extremes. Asking for an opinion voluntarily, surely it's different to controlling behaviour unless someone has been forced or conditioned to always ask first. No-one will ever and should never condone controlling behaviour but we all ask for opinions on our daily life. Look at the threads on here asking for advise on profiles looks and so on ... |
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I love it when women can apply fantastic makeup with all the contouring and highlighting and I know not what.
Sadly when I try I look like a pissed up clown who has fallen on hard times and is making a living walking the streets, so I tend not to bother.
I'll wear eyeshadow and mascara if I'm going out but that's about it.
I tell you though, if pissed clown hooker is ever a fashionable look I've got it nailed. |
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Like someone else said, anything you do to improve the way you look falls under the cosmetics umbrella. There is no difference between getting a hair cut and wearing lipstick. Both are meant to improve someone's appearance. Some things just have more stigma attached to them than others. It's ok for men to shave their face but not their body. If I go out dressed up with loads of makeup on a Saturday night no one bats an eyelid. If I do it on a Wednesday afternoon I get the "angry stares" lol. More and more things are becoming less stigmatized. I think in the future men will be just as likely as women to get their nails or eyelashes done. The idea that men attract women by demonstrating power is so old fashioned. Women have never been more financially independent. They don't need men with power anymore so what they look for in a potential partner will change. Men will make of an effort cosmetically to attract a partner. Just my opinion X |
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend. "
Thank you! Exactly that
I think it enhances a woman and if that makes us feel better than great
I mean, we dye our hair, we do our nails, some have fillers or Botox, or surgery to enhance themselves.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with any of these things so long as they make us feel good x |
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I wear make-up as a form of artistic expression, and it also makes me feel good. I like to keep my face quite natural and highlight my pale complexion but go quite bold on the eyes - bright eyeliner, sparkle etc. I also use a light foundation as an extra barrier as I’m very sensitive to the sun |
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"I love it when women can apply fantastic makeup with all the contouring and highlighting and I know not what.
Sadly when I try I look like a pissed up clown who has fallen on hard times and is making a living walking the streets, so I tend not to bother.
I'll wear eyeshadow and mascara if I'm going out but that's about it.
I tell you though, if pissed clown hooker is ever a fashionable look I've got it nailed."
Me too. I think it's my freckles. Anything more than the basics and I look like "raddled whore". |
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I tend to just use a corrector to make sure my skin is even, some eyeliner, a bit of blush for my cheeks and lip gloss x
Pretty quick and easy tbf only takes me 10 mins x
If I go out out, then I might do something more dramatic like contouring and highlighting and play with eyeshadow. It’s fun and it makes me feel sexy, so |
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"I love it when women can apply fantastic makeup with all the contouring and highlighting and I know not what.
Sadly when I try I look like a pissed up clown who has fallen on hard times and is making a living walking the streets, so I tend not to bother.
I'll wear eyeshadow and mascara if I'm going out but that's about it.
I tell you though, if pissed clown hooker is ever a fashionable look I've got it nailed.
Me too. I think it's my freckles. Anything more than the basics and I look like "raddled whore". "
I have freckles, maybe it's that for me too!
(It's not, I'm proper cack-handed and have no idea what I'm doing).
I am endlessly fascinated watching someone else with all the skills though, it's a hugely soothing thing to watch. |
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this... "
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"Because we can and it makes us feel good. We don't do it for you guys "
But we sure do appreciate all your efforts and will continue to do so definitely |
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"I'd like to turn this question around to you OP. Why is it women want to spend time and effort to enhance their looks with make up and men don't?"
Good question. I have started exploring with eyeliner, can't talk for other men.. |
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"I'd like to turn this question around to you OP. Why is it women want to spend time and effort to enhance their looks with make up and men don't?
Good question. I have started exploring with eyeliner, can't talk for other men.."
Several years ago I saw a guy in a department store whose contour was razor sharp. I did double take, but mostly because hot damn the technique was flawless. |
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I like make up, but I'm not good enough at it to change my features (I probably would if I had the skills!). I'd just rather spend 15mins in the morning to cheat not looking completely knackered, than actually make the effort to get enough sleep and drink enough water 
Re mens opinions, I'm not that fussed what they think. Except my ex, who is far cooler and more fashionable than me, so I'll often get his input if I'm trying something new. |
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"I love it when women can apply fantastic makeup with all the contouring and highlighting and I know not what.
Sadly when I try I look like a pissed up clown who has fallen on hard times and is making a living walking the streets, so I tend not to bother.
I'll wear eyeshadow and mascara if I'm going out but that's about it.
I tell you though, if pissed clown hooker is ever a fashionable look I've got it nailed.
Me too. I think it's my freckles. Anything more than the basics and I look like "raddled whore".
I have freckles, maybe it's that for me too!
(It's not, I'm proper cack-handed and have no idea what I'm doing).
I am endlessly fascinated watching someone else with all the skills though, it's a hugely soothing thing to watch."
Yep I admire it but I've given up on trying new stuff as more makeup doesn't suit me. |
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
What about guys covered in tattoos trying to compensate for being built like a Twiglet?"
Who are you referring to? |
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"I am blonde with fair features. A bit of make-up adds definition to those features, and keeps me from looking washed out."
Dieu, you certainly look far from washed out, you know just how to use your make up, let's go crazy in Selfridges or HN one day! |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there "
When I met her ladyship she wouldn't even put the bins out without makeup after years of influence from important men and women in her life telling her that's how a woman should behave. I happen to disagree, I believe a woman should be able to wear what she wants and in return in free to express my opinion about which looks I do or don't like. I genuinely do think she looks gorgeous without makeup and will tell her so when and where I feel like it. She is now confident and happy out in public without feeling pressure to apply an hours worth of makeup. If that makes me a mysoginistic coercive controlling little prick then I'm totally fine with that.
Personally, I think the endless shit from social media influencers convincing young girls that they have to look a certain way is coercive and controlling and worse still it's paid for by the companies that make money selling the stuff.
But hey, what do I know? Being male and having an opinion or indeed even a preference is highly controversial around these parts.
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
What about guys covered in tattoos trying to compensate for being built like a Twiglet?"
Body shaming? On Fab? Shurley not!? |
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
What about guys covered in tattoos trying to compensate for being built like a Twiglet?
Body shaming? On Fab? Shurley not!?"
Just drawing a comparison is all. I see a fair few threads about women and make up, which is fair enough.....a lot of guys don't like it as is their right. But to suggest that men make absolutely no alterations to their appearance (whether that be through tattoos, beards, funky hair cuts, whatever) is simply untrue. We all alter our appearance to a greater or lesser degree. Make up is just a more obvious way of doing it.
I like putting on make up most days because I think I look better for it and it's a wee bit of self-love/me time in the morning. The rest of the day I'm running about like a blue arsed fly. |
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
What about guys covered in tattoos trying to compensate for being built like a Twiglet?
Body shaming? On Fab? Shurley not!?
Just drawing a comparison is all. I see a fair few threads about women and make up, which is fair enough.....a lot of guys don't like it as is their right. But to suggest that men make absolutely no alterations to their appearance (whether that be through tattoos, beards, funky hair cuts, whatever) is simply untrue. We all alter our appearance to a greater or lesser degree. Make up is just a more obvious way of doing it.
I like putting on make up most days because I think I look better for it and it's a wee bit of self-love/me time in the morning. The rest of the day I'm running about like a blue arsed fly."
It’s a good point to make
There’s plenty of lads out there taking steroids at the gym or paying 1000s of pounds for the local tattoo shops “basic fuck boy package #1” to make up for their lack of personality
There’s nothing wrong with trying to improve your look either through makeup or tattoos or surgery or steroids. All the more power to you |
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I don't wear make-up. I never have. The only make-up I own was bought for me by well meaning friends. I wouldn't know what to do with it really. I tried a little when I was a student but I have a minus level of artistic talent so I can't say it improved any of my looks.
My friends did my hair and make-up for my wedding and my husband said I didn't look like myself. Luckily he still married me |
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over a year ago
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend. "
Quite a few men do wear it and don’t care if it’s a tend or not ! You just have to look v carefully |
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Not sure you understand how hair and beards work. I don't grow them because its fashionable, I grow them because I can't be bothered to cut them, they get trimmed when they iritate me - or ar least I used to, and certainly many men still do.
Her ladyship however didn't like the buzz cut look so since being with her I've got into the habit of going to the barbers and having both my hair and beard trimmed in a style she likes.
I would like to thank the commentators on this thread for helping me to understand that I am suffering domestic abuse and live with a misandrist coercive controlling little prick. So sorry NBVNHW, I've finally seen your true character 
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"Not sure you understand how hair and beards work. I don't grow them because its fashionable, I grow them because I can't be bothered to cut them, they get trimmed when they iritate me - or ar least I used to, and certainly many men still do.
Her ladyship however didn't like the buzz cut look so since being with her I've got into the habit of going to the barbers and having both my hair and beard trimmed in a style she likes.
I would like to thank the commentators on this thread for helping me to understand that I am suffering domestic abuse and live with a misandrist coercive controlling little prick. So sorry NBVNHW, I've finally seen your true character
Mr"
So for you, your hair and beard is a reflection of you being a lazy wee so and so
But for many their appearance is a conscious choice and effort to portray themselves to the outside world in a certain way. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. My issue was with the suggestion that only women do this. |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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I don't wear makeup often, maybe four/five times a year? Number of reasons - sensory, lack of quality makeup that's flattering to my skin tone (cool toned mixed race women do exist), general laziness and happy in how I look without it. Plus I'm crap at applying it.
I'm very lucky in that my partners both find me rather attractive without it and compliment me on my fresh, freckled face. It's not down to them being controlling, it's because they like me feeling good about myself.
That being said, when I do wear it I enjoy wearing it for me, I feel more dressed up. More like I've made an effort. |
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So for you, your hair and beard is a reflection of you being a lazy wee so and so
But for many their appearance is a conscious choice and effort to portray themselves to the outside world in a certain way. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. My issue was with the suggestion that only women do this."
Absolutely - and yeah, you're right, it absolutely isn't only women who mess with their look.
My biggest objection in this thread (and its not from you) is the idea that expressing a preference in any circumstances at all makes you a misogynistic little prick.
That said, I strongly believe holding that opinion makes you an irrational deeply unpleasant nut job ...
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
When I met her ladyship she wouldn't even put the bins out without makeup after years of influence from important men and women in her life telling her that's how a woman should behave. I happen to disagree, I believe a woman should be able to wear what she wants and in return in free to express my opinion about which looks I do or don't like. I genuinely do think she looks gorgeous without makeup and will tell her so when and where I feel like it. She is now confident and happy out in public without feeling pressure to apply an hours worth of makeup. If that makes me a mysoginistic coercive controlling little prick then I'm totally fine with that.
Personally, I think the endless shit from social media influencers convincing young girls that they have to look a certain way is coercive and controlling and worse still it's paid for by the companies that make money selling the stuff.
But hey, what do I know? Being male and having an opinion or indeed even a preference is highly controversial around these parts.
Mr"
I have a daughter and she and her friends seem to see makeup as an experiment. Not to fit in. They all seem happy to go without it, they just enjoy playing. They get ideas from TikTok videos etc but my sense is very much that they are relishing their independence and discovering their ability to alter how they look. I tell her I like her makeup and also tell her I love her beautiful face sans makeup. |
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
When I met her ladyship she wouldn't even put the bins out without makeup after years of influence from important men and women in her life telling her that's how a woman should behave. I happen to disagree, I believe a woman should be able to wear what she wants and in return in free to express my opinion about which looks I do or don't like. I genuinely do think she looks gorgeous without makeup and will tell her so when and where I feel like it. She is now confident and happy out in public without feeling pressure to apply an hours worth of makeup. If that makes me a mysoginistic coercive controlling little prick then I'm totally fine with that.
Personally, I think the endless shit from social media influencers convincing young girls that they have to look a certain way is coercive and controlling and worse still it's paid for by the companies that make money selling the stuff.
But hey, what do I know? Being male and having an opinion or indeed even a preference is highly controversial around these parts.
Mr
I have a daughter and she and her friends seem to see makeup as an experiment. Not to fit in. They all seem happy to go without it, they just enjoy playing. They get ideas from TikTok videos etc but my sense is very much that they are relishing their independence and discovering their ability to alter how they look. I tell her I like her makeup and also tell her I love her beautiful face sans makeup. "
That's great for them. A young female in my life has come off Insta as it made her feel constantly ugly and fat so I guess that's why I see it that way.
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
What about guys covered in tattoos trying to compensate for being built like a Twiglet?
Body shaming? On Fab? Shurley not!?
Just drawing a comparison is all. I see a fair few threads about women and make up, which is fair enough.....a lot of guys don't like it as is their right. But to suggest that men make absolutely no alterations to their appearance (whether that be through tattoos, beards, funky hair cuts, whatever) is simply untrue. We all alter our appearance to a greater or lesser degree. Make up is just a more obvious way of doing it.
I like putting on make up most days because I think I look better for it and it's a wee bit of self-love/me time in the morning. The rest of the day I'm running about like a blue arsed fly.
It’s a good point to make
There’s plenty of lads out there taking steroids at the gym or paying 1000s of pounds for the local tattoo shops “basic fuck boy package #1” to make up for their lack of personality
There’s nothing wrong with trying to improve your look either through makeup or tattoos or surgery or steroids. All the more power to you "
U had me at “basic fuck boy package #1”
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend. "
Exactly this! Hair cuts, shaving, showering, brushing teeth, wearing certain clothes - they’re all things we do to make ourselves feel good (I mean, most are basic hygiene too but still).
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend.
Exactly this! Hair cuts, shaving, showering, brushing teeth, wearing certain clothes - they’re all things we do to make ourselves feel good (I mean, most are basic hygiene too but still).
C x"
I mean some dudes grow their beards and groom them to the point that if that goes, they almost look like another person
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
What about guys covered in tattoos trying to compensate for being built like a Twiglet?
Body shaming? On Fab? Shurley not!?
Just drawing a comparison is all. I see a fair few threads about women and make up, which is fair enough.....a lot of guys don't like it as is their right. But to suggest that men make absolutely no alterations to their appearance (whether that be through tattoos, beards, funky hair cuts, whatever) is simply untrue. We all alter our appearance to a greater or lesser degree. Make up is just a more obvious way of doing it.
I like putting on make up most days because I think I look better for it and it's a wee bit of self-love/me time in the morning. The rest of the day I'm running about like a blue arsed fly.
It’s a good point to make
There’s plenty of lads out there taking steroids at the gym or paying 1000s of pounds for the local tattoo shops “basic fuck boy package #1” to make up for their lack of personality
There’s nothing wrong with trying to improve your look either through makeup or tattoos or surgery or steroids. All the more power to you
U had me at “basic fuck boy package #1”
I’m deceased, thank you sir "
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"So I have often wondered this and asking you lovely ladies-why?
Make up can enhance the face so much you look completly different to your true self.
Of course it's everyone's choice..Men rely on their untouched looks however ladies rely on cosmetics to enhance their looks.
Just intrigued for your opinion/views on this...
What about guys covered in tattoos trying to compensate for being built like a Twiglet?
Body shaming? On Fab? Shurley not!?
Just drawing a comparison is all. I see a fair few threads about women and make up, which is fair enough.....a lot of guys don't like it as is their right. But to suggest that men make absolutely no alterations to their appearance (whether that be through tattoos, beards, funky hair cuts, whatever) is simply untrue. We all alter our appearance to a greater or lesser degree. Make up is just a more obvious way of doing it.
I like putting on make up most days because I think I look better for it and it's a wee bit of self-love/me time in the morning. The rest of the day I'm running about like a blue arsed fly.
It’s a good point to make
There’s plenty of lads out there taking steroids at the gym or paying 1000s of pounds for the local tattoo shops “basic fuck boy package #1” to make up for their lack of personality
There’s nothing wrong with trying to improve your look either through makeup or tattoos or surgery or steroids. All the more power to you
U had me at “basic fuck boy package #1”
I’m deceased, thank you sir "
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"Any man who says “ you look better without all that make up/you look better natural/prefer low maintenance girls, etc” are just misogynistic, coercive controlling little pricks. A woman has a right to wear whatever she wants! Have a look on mainstream Tinder and you’ll find a few on there
When I met her ladyship she wouldn't even put the bins out without makeup after years of influence from important men and women in her life telling her that's how a woman should behave. I happen to disagree, I believe a woman should be able to wear what she wants and in return in free to express my opinion about which looks I do or don't like. I genuinely do think she looks gorgeous without makeup and will tell her so when and where I feel like it. She is now confident and happy out in public without feeling pressure to apply an hours worth of makeup. If that makes me a mysoginistic coercive controlling little prick then I'm totally fine with that.
Personally, I think the endless shit from social media influencers convincing young girls that they have to look a certain way is coercive and controlling and worse still it's paid for by the companies that make money selling the stuff.
But hey, what do I know? Being male and having an opinion or indeed even a preference is highly controversial around these parts.
Mr
I have a daughter and she and her friends seem to see makeup as an experiment. Not to fit in. They all seem happy to go without it, they just enjoy playing. They get ideas from TikTok videos etc but my sense is very much that they are relishing their independence and discovering their ability to alter how they look. I tell her I like her makeup and also tell her I love her beautiful face sans makeup.
That's great for them. A young female in my life has come off Insta as it made her feel constantly ugly and fat so I guess that's why I see it that way.
Mr"
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I think it's rare someone looks completely different with make up on.
I wouldn't say men's looks are untouched. They cut and many style their hair, they trim or shave their facial hair and they choose their clothing to present a certain image. Some men are very low maintenance but you also get women who live in a bun or ponytail with no make up. I do think women are held to higher standards when it comes to appearance though, especially when dressing up.
There's also nothing to stop men from wearing makeup if they want to. |
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"Make up and plastic surgery both fall into the same logical fallacy
Good make up / good plastic surgery isn’t obvious
People often have a vendetta against makeup or plastic surgery, what they fail to realise is that if you can obviously spot either, it’s not good, it’s meant to enhance a natural look, not be easy to spot
Whatever makes someone happy is a good phrase to use, but the way society is going I wonder if excessive makeup use is making people happy, or is it a chore, something they need to do to feel accepted. Are they afraid to be seen without it? Is it an addiction that helps sure their beauty anxiety? "
I mostly agree. When it comes to plastic surgery and day to day make up anyway. I've had the opposite before when people have thought I had make up on when I didn't which I guess is a sign that my usual make up is pretty natural .
I also totally agree that if people are forcing themselves tonput it on when they would rather not, if they feel they need to wear it or if they're scared to be seen without it then there is a problem.
However, I do want to add though that there are times I enjoy wearing make up that isn't natural, usually bold eyeshadow colours and glitter for particular events. On these occasions, to me it's more like another accessory, just like with the jewellery and shoes I wouldn't wear every day. It is very obvious I have make up on if my eyelids are purple with gold glitter . I do it because it's fun though. In every day life I'm seen more without make up than with it. I'm not wasting it just to go to the supermarket . |
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend.
Exactly this! Hair cuts, shaving, showering, brushing teeth, wearing certain clothes - they’re all things we do to make ourselves feel good (I mean, most are basic hygiene too but still).
C x
I mean some dudes grow their beards and groom them to the point that if that goes, they almost look like another person
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It's funny you say this because I barely recognise one of my partners in photos where he has no beard as I've only ever known him with one . |
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend.
Exactly this! Hair cuts, shaving, showering, brushing teeth, wearing certain clothes - they’re all things we do to make ourselves feel good (I mean, most are basic hygiene too but still).
C x
I mean some dudes grow their beards and groom them to the point that if that goes, they almost look like another person
It's funny you say this because I barely recognise one of my partners in photos where he has no beard as I've only ever known him with one . "
Exactly haha! So funny x it’s almost like “this can’t be the same person, surely”
“Who is dis? Will the police recognise him if he goes missing but he looks like a 12yrs old kid, without the beard?!”
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"Men's looks aren't untouched, no one's are. Getting your hair done, shaving, washing and even brushing your teeth.. why do all these things? Why not just get out of bed and start your day?
Exactly we all like to take care of ourselves to make ourselves feel good. Make up is just a luxury women have and more men would wear it too if it was a trend.
Exactly this! Hair cuts, shaving, showering, brushing teeth, wearing certain clothes - they’re all things we do to make ourselves feel good (I mean, most are basic hygiene too but still).
C x
I mean some dudes grow their beards and groom them to the point that if that goes, they almost look like another person
It's funny you say this because I barely recognise one of my partners in photos where he has no beard as I've only ever known him with one .
Exactly haha! So funny x it’s almost like “this can’t be the same person, surely”
“Who is dis? Will the police recognise him if he goes missing but he looks like a 12yrs old kid, without the beard?!”
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He shaved his head in the middle of the pandemic because of not being able to get a haircut too and honestly I think if he did that and shaved his beard too he could easily knock about in broad daylight without being recognised . |
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"I think it's rare someone looks completely different with make up on.
I wouldn't say men's looks are untouched. They cut and many style their hair, they trim or shave their facial hair and they choose their clothing to present a certain image. Some men are very low maintenance but you also get women who live in a bun or ponytail with no make up. I do think women are held to higher standards when it comes to appearance though, especially when dressing up.
There's also nothing to stop men from wearing makeup if they want to. "
I think you're spot on with women being held to higher standards.
Fashion pages love to point out a bit of cellulite, the "wrong" style of clothing or a tired face sans makeup of some poor celebrity who dared to step outside without a full makeover
Us men are lucky, when we get old and wrinkly we are called distinguished not haggard.
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So for you, your hair and beard is a reflection of you being a lazy wee so and so
But for many their appearance is a conscious choice and effort to portray themselves to the outside world in a certain way. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. My issue was with the suggestion that only women do this.
Absolutely - and yeah, you're right, it absolutely isn't only women who mess with their look.
My biggest objection in this thread (and its not from you) is the idea that expressing a preference in any circumstances at all makes you a misogynistic little prick.
That said, I strongly believe holding that opinion makes you an irrational deeply unpleasant nut job ...
Mr"
I have to agree
But how naive of you to think we can express opinions here without being labelled an "-ist" or "-obic". |
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"I think it's rare someone looks completely different with make up on.
I wouldn't say men's looks are untouched. They cut and many style their hair, they trim or shave their facial hair and they choose their clothing to present a certain image. Some men are very low maintenance but you also get women who live in a bun or ponytail with no make up. I do think women are held to higher standards when it comes to appearance though, especially when dressing up.
There's also nothing to stop men from wearing makeup if they want to.
I think you're spot on with women being held to higher standards.
Fashion pages love to point out a bit of cellulite, the "wrong" style of clothing or a tired face sans makeup of some poor celebrity who dared to step outside without a full makeover
Us men are lucky, when we get old and wrinkly we are called distinguished not haggard.
Mr"
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