Worth noting that Adele has since clarified she includes *all* women in her definition - to avoid any bad-faith misinterpreting of her positivity as a coded message that she wanted to criticise trans women.
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"Worth noting that Adele has since clarified she includes *all* women in her definition - to avoid any bad-faith misinterpreting of her positivity as a coded message that she wanted to criticise trans women.
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I don’t think she wanted to criticise trans women at all, I think maybe it was more of a dig towards the fact that they had to mingle categories.
So it was pointed at men. Potentially
I never for a second , thought her statement was offensive to trans women.
For Christ sake, she also had a blast with Niki tutorial doing vids and she’s trans! So
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"Worth noting that Adele has since clarified she includes *all* women in her definition - to avoid any bad-faith misinterpreting of her positivity as a coded message that she wanted to criticise trans women.
I don’t think she wanted to criticise trans women at all, I think maybe it was more of a dig towards the fact that they had to mingle categories.
So it was pointed at men. Potentially
I never for a second , thought her statement was offensive to trans women.
For Christ sake, she also had a blast with Niki tutorial doing vids and she’s trans! So
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"Worth noting that Adele has since clarified she includes *all* women in her definition - to avoid any bad-faith misinterpreting of her positivity as a coded message that she wanted to criticise trans women.
I don’t think she wanted to criticise trans women at all, I think maybe it was more of a dig towards the fact that they had to mingle categories.
So it was pointed at men. Potentially
I never for a second , thought her statement was offensive to trans women.
For Christ sake, she also had a blast with Niki tutorial doing vids and she’s trans! So
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Oh totally. She’s been a vocal ally for years. It was so disingenuous for some to suggest it was some sort of “coming out” as “gender critical”. |
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"Worth noting that Adele has since clarified she includes *all* women in her definition - to avoid any bad-faith misinterpreting of her positivity as a coded message that she wanted to criticise trans women.
I don’t think she wanted to criticise trans women at all, I think maybe it was more of a dig towards the fact that they had to mingle categories.
So it was pointed at men. Potentially
I never for a second , thought her statement was offensive to trans women.
For Christ sake, she also had a blast with Niki tutorial doing vids and she’s trans! So
Oh totally. She’s been a vocal ally for years. It was so disingenuous for some to suggest it was some sort of “coming out” as “gender critical”. "
The media will insinuate any old shite to get a reaction. The problem is, some people believe it. They (the media) are bullies. |
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"Worth noting that Adele has since clarified she includes *all* women in her definition - to avoid any bad-faith misinterpreting of her positivity as a coded message that she wanted to criticise trans women.
I don’t think she wanted to criticise trans women at all, I think maybe it was more of a dig towards the fact that they had to mingle categories.
So it was pointed at men. Potentially
I never for a second , thought her statement was offensive to trans women.
For Christ sake, she also had a blast with Niki tutorial doing vids and she’s trans! So
Oh totally. She’s been a vocal ally for years. It was so disingenuous for some to suggest it was some sort of “coming out” as “gender critical”.
The media will insinuate any old shite to get a reaction. The problem is, some people believe it. They (the media) are bullies."
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"I wonder when she’s forced to apologise I hope she doesn’t I really hope she doesn’t "
I don’t think anyone is calling for an apology.
She made a statement about being proud to be a woman, and subsequently clarified that she includes all woman in that.
Nothing to see but good intersectional feminism. Certainly nothing needing an apology. |
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary."
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary."
Christ...that was actually genuine typo!
"They" are non-binary.
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I dont even know whatshe made comments about I assumed it was about criticism cancelling a day before a residency.
I went off Adele this year because she only comes out or speaks when promoting an album, I see it as not genuine in giving a shit. |
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I went off Adele this year because she only comes out or speaks when promoting an album, I see it as not genuine in giving a shit."
Um, this is what every singer, musician, actor, comedian, etc does - they do media when they have something to promote.
You can point out that showbiz is kinda shallow in that regard, but somewhat random to single Adele out for it.
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I went off Adele this year because she only comes out or speaks when promoting an album, I see it as not genuine in giving a shit.
Um, this is what every singer, musician, actor, comedian, etc does - they do media when they have something to promote.
You can point out that showbiz is kinda shallow in that regard, but somewhat random to single Adele out for it.
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I singled her out for a reason, it was obvious. She has done nearly everything to give public access to herself only to sell another album, during 2 years of lockdowns she didnt say a word even after dramatic weight transformation.
Not all artists only do media when selling an album. Certain artists only bring out albums at xmas..they are annoying too cash grab |
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I hate Adele and her music. Just whiny shite. Not impressed with her at all. |
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side. "
Why? What does it matter to you what gender they are? Does it affect your life in the slightest? Does it affect your life what gender anyone is? If you are not trying to poke your dick into their hole, why should you care what anyone has inside their knickers? Does it affect what gender you are? What impact does it have on you in any way which type of pronouns are preferred by a person that is totally outside your sphere of acquaintances? Why do you get upset about someone you will never meet? |
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side.
Why? What does it matter to you what gender they are? Does it affect your life in the slightest? Does it affect your life what gender anyone is? If you are not trying to poke your dick into their hole, why should you care what anyone has inside their knickers? Does it affect what gender you are? What impact does it have on you in any way which type of pronouns are preferred by a person that is totally outside your sphere of acquaintances? Why do you get upset about someone you will never meet?"
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side.
Why? What does it matter to you what gender they are? Does it affect your life in the slightest? Does it affect your life what gender anyone is? If you are not trying to poke your dick into their hole, why should you care what anyone has inside their knickers? Does it affect what gender you are? What impact does it have on you in any way which type of pronouns are preferred by a person that is totally outside your sphere of acquaintances? Why do you get upset about someone you will never meet?"
Carlos thinks you should calm down before you have an aneurysm, that's a helluva ranty rant you're on. Relax, be like Fonzie.  |
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side.
Why? What does it matter to you what gender they are? Does it affect your life in the slightest? Does it affect your life what gender anyone is? If you are not trying to poke your dick into their hole, why should you care what anyone has inside their knickers? Does it affect what gender you are? What impact does it have on you in any way which type of pronouns are preferred by a person that is totally outside your sphere of acquaintances? Why do you get upset about someone you will never meet?
Carlos thinks you should calm down before you have an aneurysm, that's a helluva ranty rant you're on. Relax, be like Fonzie. "
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side.
Why? What does it matter to you what gender they are? Does it affect your life in the slightest? Does it affect your life what gender anyone is? If you are not trying to poke your dick into their hole, why should you care what anyone has inside their knickers? Does it affect what gender you are? What impact does it have on you in any way which type of pronouns are preferred by a person that is totally outside your sphere of acquaintances? Why do you get upset about someone you will never meet?
Carlos thinks you should calm down before you have an aneurysm, that's a helluva ranty rant you're on. Relax, be like Fonzie.
I am relaxed. I'm not the one whose world view is challenged by the gender of people I don't know."
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"She's on Graham Norton, not literally."
Oh good I'll watch her. She annoys me and I want to see how she is in an interview to see if I can change my mind about her. |
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I don’t think anyone is calling for an apology.
She made a statement about being proud to be a woman, and subsequently clarified that she includes all woman in that.
Nothing to see but good intersectional feminism. Certainly nothing needing an apology. "
Shy does she need to make an apology for making a statement about how she personally feels about something?
This had nothing to do with anyone else but her, but as usual everyone else wants to make it all about them |
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"She's on Graham Norton, not literally.
Oh good I'll watch her. She annoys me and I want to see how she is in an interview to see if I can change my mind about her."
Unfortunately not.  |
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Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side.
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He doesn't. You need him to because your brain can't cope with it. He's happy being who he is. |
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Oh good I'll watch her. She annoys me and I want to see how she is in an interview to see if I can change my mind about her.
Unfortunately not. "
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side. "
Why? To make you feel better? |
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"She's on Graham Norton, not literally.
Oh good I'll watch her. She annoys me and I want to see how she is in an interview to see if I can change my mind about her.
Unfortunately not.
I don't understand why she kept swearing .
Dame Helen looked fab as per. "
Dame Helen was making a very deliberate and obvious point to include Golda in the conversations. She's awesome.  |
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Oh good I'll watch her. She annoys me and I want to see how she is in an interview to see if I can change my mind about her.
Unfortunately not.
I don't understand why she kept swearing .
Dame Helen looked fab as per.
Dame Helen was making a very deliberate and obvious point to include Golda in the conversations. She's awesome. "
She is. She gives me hope. What about her boots! |
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side.
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What a sad attitude to have. The irony of the “don’t call me cis” crowd having the opposite view when faced with other people is quite something.
Sam Smith is very unlikely to converse with you, let alone sleep with you… so their pronouns and genitals shouldn’t be so much of a worry for you. |
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"Carlos feels this is all Sam Smith's fault.
Is this Sam Smith actually a male or female or trans or what?
He's non-binary.
Exactly, he needs to pick a side.
Your such a bigot! "
Jeez, thats like saying you cant be bi pick a sex and stay with it and dont do both ever (In my head) I think Sam Smith doesnt feel comfortable as being treated as Male and obviously has a feminine side..but non binary is hard to understand unless you relate to that. I dont understand it tbh but maybe its sort of like bi or pansexual..inbetween either or both,neither. It gets confusing when they dont like he or she and I mean that in a respectful way. I met a female who feels non binary I think they feel inbetween? |
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Jeez, thats like saying you cant be bi pick a sex and stay with it and dont do both ever (In my head) I think Sam Smith doesnt feel comfortable as being treated as Male and obviously has a feminine side..but non binary is hard to understand unless you relate to that. I dont understand it tbh but maybe its sort of like bi or pansexual..inbetween either or both,neither. It gets confusing when they dont like he or she and I mean that in a respectful way. I met a female who feels non binary I think they feel inbetween?"
Indeed. It *is* confusing for many, and that’s the issue. The right was to deal with that confusion is as you describe - compassion (and curiosity is fine too as long as it’s respectful and in good faith). |
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