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"I'll take the second option everytime without fail and probably leave them to it at that point. If they aren't prepared to respect my boundaries they aren't worth meeting. " Just to add, I wouldn't be polite. | |||
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"I'll take the second option everytime without fail and probably leave them to it at that point. If they aren't prepared to respect my boundaries they aren't worth meeting. " Yeah you would have thought that there would have been a clear understanding about that before anything even started  | |||
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"So he's sexually abusing you? " I thought this as well | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand " Why is it harsh to say what it is exactly?  | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand " Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand " In addition you've put the onus on the OP. No that's not how consent works. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand " It's definitely sexual assault, worrying that you think it's not | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand " To be fair to this poster ^. He does say assuming sexuality and consent was not discussed prior. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand To be fair to this poster ^. He does say assuming sexuality and consent was not discussed prior." Well then you ask if it's ok and get consent, otherwise they're just assuming you're ok with it which is never ok | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol" I'd be less than polite. Its a hard boundary and if he disregarded it I would be gone. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand It's definitely sexual assault, worrying that you think it's not " No need to worry about me, I know right from wrong, If you was in the room and the Lady removed her clothes while you was laying down and sat on your face or kneeled in front of you and started to give you a Bj would you say the same | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand To be fair to this poster ^. He does say assuming sexuality and consent was not discussed prior. Well then you ask if it's ok and get consent, otherwise they're just assuming you're ok with it which is never ok" Why would a couple assume a guy who has no hint of being bi on his profile would want to have his cock sucked? Until there is a Fab straight category... | |||
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"I find this interesting actually, I mean, if I don't specifically say someone can touch my nipple and they do touch my nipple, is that sexual assault? Are we supposed to ask permission before doing anything at all? . Ie, Can I kiss you? With tongues? Can I touch all of your body? Can I put this bit of my body in that bit of your body? And so on? Or do you just say what you will and won't do beforehand? " Think there is also the issue that he couldn't see what was going to happen as the woman was sat on his face. Which to me sits very wrong. If he could see he was about to put his cock in his mouth he could have said no this option was taken away. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand It's definitely sexual assault, worrying that you think it's not No need to worry about me, I know right from wrong, If you was in the room and the Lady removed her clothes while you was laying down and sat on your face or kneeled in front of you and started to give you a Bj would you say the same" That wouldn't be happening unless she knew it was ok  | |||
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"I'll take the second option everytime without fail and probably leave them to it at that point. If they aren't prepared to respect my boundaries they aren't worth meeting. Just to add, I wouldn't be polite. "  | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand To be fair to this poster ^. He does say assuming sexuality and consent was not discussed prior. Well then you ask if it's ok and get consent, otherwise they're just assuming you're ok with it which is never ok Why would a couple assume a guy who has no hint of being bi on his profile would want to have his cock sucked? Until there is a Fab straight category..." It probably happens, it really shouldn't though and especially not if they've read my profile | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand It's definitely sexual assault, worrying that you think it's not No need to worry about me, I know right from wrong, If you was in the room and the Lady removed her clothes while you was laying down and sat on your face or kneeled in front of you and started to give you a Bj would you say the same" I've been in an hotel room with a woman who didn't discuss boundaries beforehand. She punched me in the face in the hope of getting a reaction because that was her kink. Needless to say she didn't get the reaction she wanted or expected but I gave her the benefit of the doubt and we discussed the fact I wasn't that person. An hour later she decided to try again and drove her knee into my balls so I got dressed and left her there. Imagine if the roles had been reversed! | |||
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"I find this interesting actually, I mean, if I don't specifically say someone can touch my nipple and they do touch my nipple, is that sexual assault? Are we supposed to ask permission before doing anything at all? . Ie, Can I kiss you? With tongues? Can I touch all of your body? Can I put this bit of my body in that bit of your body? And so on? Or do you just say what you will and won't do beforehand? Think there is also the issue that he couldn't see what was going to happen as the woman was sat on his face. Which to me sits very wrong. If he could see he was about to put his cock in his mouth he could have said no this option was taken away. " Ah yes and maybe also difficult to move quickly if he felt something he didn't want | |||
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"I find this interesting actually, I mean, if I don't specifically say someone can touch my nipple and they do touch my nipple, is that sexual assault? Are we supposed to ask permission before doing anything at all? . Ie, Can I kiss you? With tongues? Can I touch all of your body? Can I put this bit of my body in that bit of your body? And so on? Or do you just say what you will and won't do beforehand? " The post is about someone touching you that hasn't been given consent | |||
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"I find this interesting actually, I mean, if I don't specifically say someone can touch my nipple and they do touch my nipple, is that sexual assault? Are we supposed to ask permission before doing anything at all? . Ie, Can I kiss you? With tongues? Can I touch all of your body? Can I put this bit of my body in that bit of your body? And so on? Or do you just say what you will and won't do beforehand? " There is a reasonable belief of consent In the situation you're proposing. But in a kink scene we would spell out limits in advance and they'd be agreed. Including kissing which is often a limit for some people as it is here for some couples. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand It's definitely sexual assault, worrying that you think it's not No need to worry about me, I know right from wrong, If you was in the room and the Lady removed her clothes while you was laying down and sat on your face or kneeled in front of you and started to give you a Bj would you say the same I've been in an hotel room with a woman who didn't discuss boundaries beforehand. She punched me in the face in the hope of getting a reaction because that was her kink. Needless to say she didn't get the reaction she wanted or expected but I gave her the benefit of the doubt and we discussed the fact I wasn't that person. An hour later she decided to try again and drove her knee into my balls so I got dressed and left her there. Imagine if the roles had been reversed! " Wow | |||
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"I find this interesting actually, I mean, if I don't specifically say someone can touch my nipple and they do touch my nipple, is that sexual assault? Are we supposed to ask permission before doing anything at all? . Ie, Can I kiss you? With tongues? Can I touch all of your body? Can I put this bit of my body in that bit of your body? And so on? Or do you just say what you will and won't do beforehand? " Question is aimed at straight men though. If you're on fab and your profile says straight take that for what it is and don't assume you can perform bisexual acts only because I didn't say no | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand To be fair to this poster ^. He does say assuming sexuality and consent was not discussed prior. Well then you ask if it's ok and get consent, otherwise they're just assuming you're ok with it which is never ok Why would a couple assume a guy who has no hint of being bi on his profile would want to have his cock sucked? Until there is a Fab straight category... It probably happens, it really shouldn't though and especially not if they've read my profile " It should never be assumed! | |||
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"I find this interesting actually, I mean, if I don't specifically say someone can touch my nipple and they do touch my nipple, is that sexual assault? Are we supposed to ask permission before doing anything at all? . Ie, Can I kiss you? With tongues? Can I touch all of your body? Can I put this bit of my body in that bit of your body? And so on? Or do you just say what you will and won't do beforehand? Think there is also the issue that he couldn't see what was going to happen as the woman was sat on his face. Which to me sits very wrong. If he could see he was about to put his cock in his mouth he could have said no this option was taken away. Ah yes and maybe also difficult to move quickly if he felt something he didn't want " Exactly the situation as outlined. It does have hints of premeditation if his cock had not been touched prior to this bit. Not saying that was the case. But sends alarm bells ringing to me | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand To be fair to this poster ^. He does say assuming sexuality and consent was not discussed prior. Well then you ask if it's ok and get consent, otherwise they're just assuming you're ok with it which is never ok Why would a couple assume a guy who has no hint of being bi on his profile would want to have his cock sucked? Until there is a Fab straight category... It probably happens, it really shouldn't though and especially not if they've read my profile It should never be assumed!" Absolutely. I’m not defending the act either. It shouldn’t have happened. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand It's definitely sexual assault, worrying that you think it's not No need to worry about me, I know right from wrong, If you was in the room and the Lady removed her clothes while you was laying down and sat on your face or kneeled in front of you and started to give you a Bj would you say the same" ? What? If you know right from wrong why are you saying it's "harsh" to call the scenario assault? You've just switched it to a woman as a straw man. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand It's definitely sexual assault, worrying that you think it's not No need to worry about me, I know right from wrong, If you was in the room and the Lady removed her clothes while you was laying down and sat on your face or kneeled in front of you and started to give you a Bj would you say the same I've been in an hotel room with a woman who didn't discuss boundaries beforehand. She punched me in the face in the hope of getting a reaction because that was her kink. Needless to say she didn't get the reaction she wanted or expected but I gave her the benefit of the doubt and we discussed the fact I wasn't that person. An hour later she decided to try again and drove her knee into my balls so I got dressed and left her there. Imagine if the roles had been reversed! " That is terrible | |||
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"I’d go with the flow I wouldn’t put myself in a dangerous or illegal situation but a loving couple both sucking your cock and sharing each other it would be rude not to it is 2022 you know" Please say you're joking? | |||
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"I’d go with the flow I wouldn’t put myself in a dangerous or illegal situation but a loving couple both sucking your cock and sharing each other it would be rude not to it is 2022 you know" Do you think your bi curiosity is the reason? | |||
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"I’d go with the flow I wouldn’t put myself in a dangerous or illegal situation but a loving couple both sucking your cock and sharing each other it would be rude not to it is 2022 you know Please say you're joking?" He's bi curious which is why is ok with it | |||
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"There is a growing trend on here recently to assume that every straight man is in denial. I've seen many forum posts claiming that anyone trying to justify the fact they are straight is protesting too much and other comments saying that they should be open to exploring. I've asked quite a few times for someone to explain to me why I have to justify my choices in the first place? If a woman says she is straight the general consensus is that she should never do anything she doesn't want to and her choices are sacrosanct. Some men might be comfortable with the op's scenario but I'm not one of them because I don't have even the slightest interest in other men and I expect the same level of respect as those men who are bisexual or bicurious. " You don't have and never should to justify your choices. | |||
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"I find this interesting actually, I mean, if I don't specifically say someone can touch my nipple and they do touch my nipple, is that sexual assault? Are we supposed to ask permission before doing anything at all? . Ie, Can I kiss you? With tongues? Can I touch all of your body? Can I put this bit of my body in that bit of your body? And so on? Or do you just say what you will and won't do beforehand? " First the guy asks for permission to have sex with you. If you don't like anything you does, you stop him. In the OP's scenario a guy is initiating sex with someone who hasn't given consent yet | |||
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"There is a growing trend on here recently to assume that every straight man is in denial. I've seen many forum posts claiming that anyone trying to justify the fact they are straight is protesting too much and other comments saying that they should be open to exploring. I've asked quite a few times for someone to explain to me why I have to justify my choices in the first place? If a woman says she is straight the general consensus is that she should never do anything she doesn't want to and her choices are sacrosanct. Some men might be comfortable with the op's scenario but I'm not one of them because I don't have even the slightest interest in other men and I expect the same level of respect as those men who are bisexual or bicurious. " In my book if anyone says they're straight or anything else should never do anything they don't want to and their choices are sacrosanct. | |||
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"I’d go with the flow I wouldn’t put myself in a dangerous or illegal situation but a loving couple both sucking your cock and sharing each other it would be rude not to it is 2022 you know Please say you're joking? He's bi curious which is why is ok with it" Ah ok. It reads like he thinks in 2022 all guys should be open to have their cock sucked by other men. | |||
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"I’d go with the flow I wouldn’t put myself in a dangerous or illegal situation but a loving couple both sucking your cock and sharing each other it would be rude not to it is 2022 you know" The title says it is a question for straight guys. So, your actions would be very different from an actual straight male. However, if you found the guy unattractive and stated you didn't want him touching you, how would you feel then ? Or if he had a coldsore and sucking you would give you herpes ? How happy would you be to go with the flow then ? A boundary is a boundary. | |||
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"There is a growing trend on here recently to assume that every straight man is in denial. I've seen many forum posts claiming that anyone trying to justify the fact they are straight is protesting too much and other comments saying that they should be open to exploring. I've asked quite a few times for someone to explain to me why I have to justify my choices in the first place? If a woman says she is straight the general consensus is that she should never do anything she doesn't want to and her choices are sacrosanct. Some men might be comfortable with the op's scenario but I'm not one of them because I don't have even the slightest interest in other men and I expect the same level of respect as those men who are bisexual or bicurious. " +1 Have been receiving messages from guys recently asking "are you sure you are not bisexual?" There was also another thread a few months back where someone mentioned that a couple got a straight guy to believe that the wife was behind a glory hole, but the husband sucked him off. When I told it was sex without consent and is a serious mistake, I was told that I am overreacting. | |||
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"I’d go with the flow I wouldn’t put myself in a dangerous or illegal situation but a loving couple both sucking your cock and sharing each other it would be rude not to it is 2022 you know Please say you're joking? He's bi curious which is why is ok with it Ah ok. It reads like he thinks in 2022 all guys should be open to have their cock sucked by other men. " No they shouldn't. If that isn't their thing, 2022 or not, boundaries should be respected. | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol" Unless you are bi or have bi tendencies why would you let this continue???? Why??? Did this scenario happen to you OP and you are trying to come to terms with it or something??? The post is referring to straight guys, “what do you think scenario” Before engaging in any activity I would make it clear that I only want direct physical activity with just the lady. If the other guy makes any attempt to cross that, any action would be shut down immediately. And I’d probably stop the 3some situation there and then. And likely I would not be very happy about this and would make my feelings known in a direct and assertive manner. Polite or not. | |||
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"There is a growing trend on here recently to assume that every straight man is in denial. I've seen many forum posts claiming that anyone trying to justify the fact they are straight is protesting too much and other comments saying that they should be open to exploring. I've asked quite a few times for someone to explain to me why I have to justify my choices in the first place? If a woman says she is straight the general consensus is that she should never do anything she doesn't want to and her choices are sacrosanct. Some men might be comfortable with the op's scenario but I'm not one of them because I don't have even the slightest interest in other men and I expect the same level of respect as those men who are bisexual or bicurious. +1 Have been receiving messages from guys recently asking "are you sure you are not bisexual?" There was also another thread a few months back where someone mentioned that a couple got a straight guy to believe that the wife was behind a glory hole, but the husband sucked him off. When I told it was sex without consent and is a serious mistake, I was told that I am overreacting." Firstly I would be livid, secondly they should be ashamed of themselves for fooling him and thirdly I will never use a glory hole | |||
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"This is what concerns me about 3somes. That people might cross boundaries. " In any scenario with anyone there is a risk that people might cross boundaries. Knowing the people so you can trust them and having lots of communication beforehand as well as a social work for a couple, should also apply to three. I was talking to someone recently who wouldn't let me say what my limits were. Point blank refused. Bye. | |||
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"lol thought you lot would be a bit more open minded to some sexy fun and not so serious." Open minded to no consent, sexual abuse and assault? Because no matter how you look at it, that's exactly what it is. "Sexual assault is any unwanted sexual attention, touch, or act that is forced on you without your consent. ... Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults." Something that we all should take seriously | |||
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"lol thought you lot would be a bit more open minded to some sexy fun and not so serious." There's a difference and a big one from sexy fun and sexual assault. The question was aimed at straight guys | |||
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"lol thought you lot would be a bit more open minded to some sexy fun and not so serious." If that is your genuine viewpoint on this then I'm at a complete loss, I absolutely despair. You might find it funny but can assure you they'll be many who absolutely don't. Out of curiosity is it something you would do when meeting a couple with a straight man given you're a bisexual man and why? | |||
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"lol thought you lot would be a bit more open minded to some sexy fun and not so serious." Spoken like a true predator. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand It's definitely sexual assault, worrying that you think it's not " Exactly x | |||
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"Me I’d let him carry on & be well pleased "That's because you're bisexual. The question was aimed at straight men. | |||
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"lol thought you lot would be a bit more open minded to some sexy fun and not so serious." Red flag! | |||
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"lol thought you lot would be a bit more open minded to some sexy fun and not so serious. Spoken like a true predator. " I thought that. Red flag. | |||
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"Fascinating this one, I agree its Assault in law, and its clearly bad manners and Rude. But i wonder how true it is that Men would rush off affronted. We Men are not known for being Picky about getting off. So if the Bloke Really knew what he was doing and it was GOOD, think most men would wait a little to see how it goes before offsky. Those who would jump out of their skin at the Meare thought of such are rare." I think you insult your sex as well as undermine the concept of consent. | |||
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"Fascinating this one, I agree its Assault in law, and its clearly bad manners and Rude. But i wonder how true it is that Men would rush off affronted. We Men are not known for being Picky about getting off. So if the Bloke Really knew what he was doing and it was GOOD, think most men would wait a little to see how it goes before offsky. Those who would jump out of their skin at the Meare thought of such are rare." So if I jump in here to disagree does that mean I was triggered by your post and am in denial or does it actually mean I think you are talking crap? | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol" Consent and boundaries.. It should never get to that point. If it did. They are breaking the number 1 rule, that is your trust. Trust that they would follow the boundaries set. Legally it is a form of sexual assult.  | |||
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"I'll take the second option everytime without fail and probably leave them to it at that point. If they aren't prepared to respect my boundaries they aren't worth meeting. Just to add, I wouldn't be polite. " This! I would have told them I'm straight and not into it, so at that point it's a non-consensual act. Exactly the same as if the women said she didn't want sex except with her partner and you slipped your cock in. | |||
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"Fascinating this one, I agree its Assault in law, and its clearly bad manners and Rude. But i wonder how true it is that Men would rush off affronted. We Men are not known for being Picky about getting off. So if the Bloke Really knew what he was doing and it was GOOD, think most men would wait a little to see how it goes before offsky. Those who would jump out of their skin at the Meare thought of such are rare." Think you’re judging other men by your own standards. Personally speaking the couple would know prior to meeting that I was straight so if the man took a liberty like that I would be the opposite of polite. | |||
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"Fascinating this one, I agree its Assault in law, and its clearly bad manners and Rude. But i wonder how true it is that Men would rush off affronted. We Men are not known for being Picky about getting off. So if the Bloke Really knew what he was doing and it was GOOD, think most men would wait a little to see how it goes before offsky. Those who would jump out of their skin at the Meare thought of such are rare." You are bi, bi-curious or have bi tendencies, so your view point is “bi” iased…. And don’t agree that you can speak for most men here. Non bi/curious/flexible/gay would act differently. For me It’s attraction over action, and has nothing to do with phobia, prejudices. I’f I am Not attracted to the person (inc men) then no Hankey pankey. | |||
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"I wouldn't go as far as to call it sexual assault, more a case of chancing his luck! We all know that that in mmf or gang bangs male body contact is basically impossible to avoid, and sending a woman into orbit who loves dp is sensational for everyone. I can only say that it's only ever happened to me me once without the guy saying from the start that he was bi. She was absolutely gorgeous, and we were on a sheepskin rug on the floor with her riding my cock when he put two fingers either side of my shaft, and seriously started licking my balls. I tapped him on the head, and said to him that this was for the ladies only. He took the hint and backed off, and it didn't spoil the night. However although I was invited back a few times, I told them everytime that I couldn't make it for whatever reason. " Bumping limbs while manoeuvring in a mmf is so very different to someone deliberately putting your genitals in to their mouth without prior and to call it simply chancing his luck is quite frankly disgusting. This type of attitude just highlights why sexual assault against men (and often women) is not taken as seriously as it should be. Some men seem to think any type of sexual encounter is game on. Another example is teachers having inappropriate relationships with students. Male teacher/female student and the majority want to cut his balls off. Female teacher/male student and the predominant response from mostly men is 'you lucky fucker, I'd have loved to fuck Mrs xxx when I was at school'. It's gross. | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol" That is exactly what happened to me, but it was a double BJ, I woke on the bed up in the dark with the feeling of being given a BJ then wondered who was licking my balls. when I discovered it was the husband I was off the bed and dressed and out of the hotel room, that was the day I discovered what a chuck was. | |||
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"Fascinating this one, I agree its Assault in law, and its clearly bad manners and Rude. But i wonder how true it is that Men would rush off affronted. We Men are not known for being Picky about getting off. So if the Bloke Really knew what he was doing and it was GOOD, think most men would wait a little to see how it goes before offsky. Those who would jump out of their skin at the Meare thought of such are rare." Do you have any statistics/surveys that proves the thing you told? Why are you speaking for all men? | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol" I'm definitely in the second option group and I would be polite.  | |||
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"Just because it is 2022 doesnt mean we all suddenly have to be Bi or bi-curious... That is your choice and even in 2022 we have a choice to say no... Bi sexuality is not compulsory just because it is 2022. " It's weird. There was a time when people struggled to understand bisexuality and homosexuality. Now we are back teaching people what being straight means
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"You could just tap him on the head and say don't do that. A reasonable guy would probably respect that " A reasonable guy wouldn't need to be told in the first place because he wouldn't be making assumptions. | |||
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"You could just tap him on the head and say don't do that. A reasonable guy would probably respect that A reasonable guy wouldn't need to be told in the first place because he wouldn't be making assumptions. " Fair enough | |||
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"I wouldn't go as far as to call it sexual assault, more a case of chancing his luck! We all know that that in mmf or gang bangs male body contact is basically impossible to avoid, and sending a woman into orbit who loves dp is sensational for everyone. I can only say that it's only ever happened to me me once without the guy saying from the start that he was bi. She was absolutely gorgeous, and we were on a sheepskin rug on the floor with her riding my cock when he put two fingers either side of my shaft, and seriously started licking my balls. I tapped him on the head, and said to him that this was for the ladies only. He took the hint and backed off, and it didn't spoil the night. However although I was invited back a few times, I told them everytime that I couldn't make it for whatever reason. Bumping limbs while manoeuvring in a mmf is so very different to someone deliberately putting your genitals in to their mouth without prior and to call it simply chancing his luck is quite frankly disgusting. This type of attitude just highlights why sexual assault against men (and often women) is not taken as seriously as it should be. Some men seem to think any type of sexual encounter is game on. Another example is teachers having inappropriate relationships with students. Male teacher/female student and the majority want to cut his balls off. Female teacher/male student and the predominant response from mostly men is 'you lucky fucker, I'd have loved to fuck Mrs xxx when I was at school'. It's gross. " Absolutely agree. The attitudes shown in this thread are bloody alarming. | |||
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"I wouldn't go as far as to call it sexual assault, more a case of chancing his luck! We all know that that in mmf or gang bangs male body contact is basically impossible to avoid, and sending a woman into orbit who loves dp is sensational for everyone. I can only say that it's only ever happened to me me once without the guy saying from the start that he was bi. She was absolutely gorgeous, and we were on a sheepskin rug on the floor with her riding my cock when he put two fingers either side of my shaft, and seriously started licking my balls. I tapped him on the head, and said to him that this was for the ladies only. He took the hint and backed off, and it didn't spoil the night. However although I was invited back a few times, I told them everytime that I couldn't make it for whatever reason. " It's sexual assault according to the law. | |||
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"I'm intrigued that these types of questions are never directed at women. " I'd guess if two girls were involved with playing with one man ..then they'll be up for playing with each other ..I'd like feedback if I was wrong | |||
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"I'm intrigued that these types of questions are never directed at women. I'd guess if two girls were involved with playing with one man ..then they'll be up for playing with each other ..I'd like feedback if I was wrong "I'm assuming your last two posts are tongue in cheek because they obviously couldn't be serious. Why should I as a straight man "go with the flow" and allow someone to do something I don't want them to do? As to a woman playing with another woman just because it seems the right thing to do that's also a load of bull. Many women are straight and have no interest in exploring a non existent bi side and anyone expecting them to needs to look seriously at their own agenda. | |||
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"I'm intrigued that these types of questions are never directed at women. I'd guess if two girls were involved with playing with one man ..then they'll be up for playing with each other ..I'd like feedback if I was wrong "You are wrong. Two women playing with one man doesn't mean that the women want to play with each other. | |||
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"I think if you go to play with a hot couple then if he wants to suck your cock then let him ...you're enjoying the lady ..she's enjoying you...the guys enjoying you ...just be clear if you don't want to suck him ...you don't have to "Wrong again. If the guy is straight, why should he "let him"? | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol" Can't say anything...yer mouth is full of her pussy! Vic x | |||
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"When single men what to join us in a 3some, if it says on the profile bisexual, I immediately say no thanks as hubby is straight. I know some bi people can play straight, but that's our preference. I know if a man touched my hubby I would immediately stop and ask him to leave. " I've had the flip side of this when a couple with 100 veries sent me an introductory message that just told me I had 2 options. Option 1 was to play bi because I would never get anywhere on fab if I was straight. Option 2 was to guarantee a sexy bi lady. All I had to do was choose which option and they would consider adding me to their to do list. Those were their words not mine. | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol" It would be an instant stop to proceedings for me, this would have been discussed in advance. I would probably be considering involving the police. Cal | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol It would be an instant stop to proceedings for me, this would have been discussed in advance. I would probably be considering involving the police. Cal" Let's suppose you hadn't had an explicit conversation about not wanting to have the guy suck your cock Would you still consider involving the police? | |||
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"Mr: As a bi curious man I have 0 interest in any interaction with another man unless I know he's as into it as I am, but reading peoples opinion on this thread my straight wife has been 'assaulted' by other women in clubs on numerous occasions as there seems to be an assumption that all women are bi. " Jebus. This is horrifying | |||
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"I'm intrigued that these types of questions are never directed at women. I'd guess if two girls were involved with playing with one man ..then they'll be up for playing with each other ..I'd like feedback if I was wrong "You're wrong. We should never make assumptions like this. I'm straight and if I agreed to a threesome involving another women - I wouldn't magically become bi-curious. Nor do men become magically bi-curious. It's a dangerous way to think | |||
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"Mr: As a bi curious man I have 0 interest in any interaction with another man unless I know he's as into it as I am, but reading peoples opinion on this thread my straight wife has been 'assaulted' by other women in clubs on numerous occasions as there seems to be an assumption that all women are bi. " A straight couple I know have had the same thing happen (to the lady). Gropey gropey as soon as they have entered a room. | |||
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"lucky to have a threesum so let him carry on " You seem to like bi-couples. | |||
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"Carry on... Bi mmf is THE best activity ever." Um "Bi"ased... | |||
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"I'm intrigued that these types of questions are never directed at women. I'd guess if two girls were involved with playing with one man ..then they'll be up for playing with each other ..I'd like feedback if I was wrong "Definitely wrong. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else." Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid." But people ask before having sexual contact with someone for the first time. Not sure why it's hard to understand. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid. But people ask before having sexual contact with someone for the first time. Not sure why it's hard to understand." In the scenario listed, the people have agreed to meet for sex. Unless there was an explicit list of “we will and won’t do these things” then I don’t think there’s any malicious intent or assault happening, and if the person says no and the other party stops then fine. It’s a mistake. That’s it. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid. But people ask before having sexual contact with someone for the first time. Not sure why it's hard to understand. In the scenario listed, the people have agreed to meet for sex. Unless there was an explicit list of “we will and won’t do these things” then I don’t think there’s any malicious intent or assault happening, and if the person says no and the other party stops then fine. It’s a mistake. That’s it." What do you think about someone poking his dick into someone's butthole without permission in a group sex event? The basic etiquette in swinging is you ask permission before you indulge in sexual act with someone. There is no consent unless you verbally asked for it. The situation OP mentioned states that the guy is straight. So if asked, the guy would have said no. If he isn't asked, it should be assumed that there is no consent. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid. But people ask before having sexual contact with someone for the first time. Not sure why it's hard to understand. In the scenario listed, the people have agreed to meet for sex. Unless there was an explicit list of “we will and won’t do these things” then I don’t think there’s any malicious intent or assault happening, and if the person says no and the other party stops then fine. It’s a mistake. That’s it." Go to a club and touch someone without asking first. You’ll be kicked out instantly. | |||
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"In the scenario listed, the people have agreed to meet for sex. Unless there was an explicit list of “we will and won’t do these things” then I don’t think there’s any malicious intent or assault happening, and if the person says no and the other party stops then fine. It’s a mistake. That’s it." If the male half of the couple is listed as straight, and the guest is listed as straight then there's not ambiguity is there? There's no need for such a conversation. Thats the main reason why people should be honest with themselves and with others, and accurately describe their sexual orientation - it would prevent the scenario that the op described. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid. But people ask before having sexual contact with someone for the first time. Not sure why it's hard to understand. In the scenario listed, the people have agreed to meet for sex. Unless there was an explicit list of “we will and won’t do these things” then I don’t think there’s any malicious intent or assault happening, and if the person says no and the other party stops then fine. It’s a mistake. That’s it. Go to a club and touch someone without asking first. You’ll be kicked out instantly." As I said, I’m the scenario mentioned people have already agreed to meet for sex. In a club that’s not the case | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid. But people ask before having sexual contact with someone for the first time. Not sure why it's hard to understand. In the scenario listed, the people have agreed to meet for sex. Unless there was an explicit list of “we will and won’t do these things” then I don’t think there’s any malicious intent or assault happening, and if the person says no and the other party stops then fine. It’s a mistake. That’s it. Go to a club and touch someone without asking first. You’ll be kicked out instantly. As I said, I’m the scenario mentioned people have already agreed to meet for sex. In a club that’s not the case " How do they agree to meet? Pretty sure there must have been some talk about who has sex with who? People don't meet blindly. If that conversation did not have any discussion about male to male sex, there is no consent for that yet. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid. But people ask before having sexual contact with someone for the first time. Not sure why it's hard to understand. In the scenario listed, the people have agreed to meet for sex. Unless there was an explicit list of “we will and won’t do these things” then I don’t think there’s any malicious intent or assault happening, and if the person says no and the other party stops then fine. It’s a mistake. That’s it. Go to a club and touch someone without asking first. You’ll be kicked out instantly." Bit of a difference than meeting 2 other people for sex? X | |||
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X" Nope, not without prior consent. | |||
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X" If playing with a straight couple why would you exited bi play? Some close contact is usually unavoidable but why would a straight male want to deliberately indulge in bi play? | |||
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"There is a growing trend on here recently to assume that every straight man is in denial. I've seen many forum posts claiming that anyone trying to justify the fact they are straight is protesting too much and other comments saying that they should be open to exploring. I've asked quite a few times for someone to explain to me why I have to justify my choices in the first place? If a woman says she is straight the general consensus is that she should never do anything she doesn't want to and her choices are sacrosanct. Some men might be comfortable with the op's scenario but I'm not one of them because I don't have even the slightest interest in other men and I expect the same level of respect as those men who are bisexual or bicurious. "
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X If playing with a straight couple why would you exited bi play? Some close contact is usually unavoidable but why would a straight male want to deliberately indulge in bi play? " I'm lost soz!! X | |||
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X No Strange is all I can say x" You can have an MMF threesome to satisfy the woman without the men having sex with each other. | |||
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X No Strange is all I can say x You can have an MMF threesome to satisfy the woman without the men having sex with each other." Yes I've had one! X | |||
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"Taking the dick of someone who hasn't consented to you is sexual assault whether the person doing it is male or female. If you are a guy doing it to a straight guy, it can be downright traumatising. I respectfully request all the bisexual and gay friends to not do that under some stupid assumptions that are being made in this thread. Ask for consent. It's not that hard." Totally agree as the person would be also responsible for whatever the reaction would be from attempting as it comes under sexual assault unconsenting | |||
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X No Strange is all I can say x You can have an MMF threesome to satisfy the woman without the men having sex with each other. Yes I've had one! X" Exactly! The problem here is that we shouldn't make assumptions. It is not really that hard to ask and confirm if the guy is ok with it. | |||
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X If playing with a straight couple why would you expect bi play? Some close contact is usually unavoidable but why would a straight male want to deliberately indulge in bi play? I'm lost soz!! X"Sorry auto correct went bonkers... Is that better? | |||
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X No Strange is all I can say x You can have an MMF threesome to satisfy the woman without the men having sex with each other. Yes I've had one! X Exactly! The problem here is that we shouldn't make assumptions. It is not really that hard to ask and confirm if the guy is ok with it." If the guy is straight and it says so on his profile then that should be enough to know that he wouldn't appreciate advances from a man | |||
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"You have met a hot couple. You are laying on your back on the bed with a raging hard on with the lady fucking your face. Suddenly the guy has taken your cock in his mouth! Do you let him carry on or politely say thanks but no thanks ? I know what I would do lol Can't say anything...yer mouth is full of her pussy! Vic x " Good lad Vic
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"I would assume by entering into a 3 sum u might expect some bi play no?? X" Eh no. The same goes for a woman meeting 2 other people regardless of whether they are a couple or not. It's very easy for someone who is bi to say there is no issue but that just shows a complete lack of respect for anyone who isn't bi. In the scenario I outlined in a previous comment on this thread, no consent had been given for the woman to punch me in the face because despite having 2 social meets in the weeks before meeting in the hotel room she had never once mentioned the fact she got a kick out of that and why would I ask about a kink I wasn't aware that anyone had at that particular time in my life? As far as I was concerned it was assault. My biggest mistake was giving her the benefit of the doubt and allowing her an opportunity to do it again because she assumed I might be into it despite having told her in no uncertain terms that I wasn't. If the roles had been reversed I've no doubt I would have had my collar felt by the boys in blue shortly after. The scenario detailed by the op may not be such obvious assault but it would never enter my head to come on a forum and tell a woman she should embrace her bisexual desires and take a try it and see approach. The same level of respect should be shown to all and nothing should be assumed. | |||
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"Saying its sexual assault is a little harsh in my opinion, His mistake was not saying he's straight and doesn't want any Male to Male touching, sucking etc, three people getting together for sex it's something that should be discussed beforehand Can I refer you to the law: The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens: They intentionally touch another person. The touching is sexual. The other person does not consent to the touching. They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents. The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else. Using this logic almost every sexual encounter I’ve had is assault, because people definitely don’t ask before every kiss, touch or change of position etc. That’s stupid. But people ask before having sexual contact with someone for the first time. Not sure why it's hard to understand. In the scenario listed, the people have agreed to meet for sex. Unless there was an explicit list of “we will and won’t do these things” then I don’t think there’s any malicious intent or assault happening, and if the person says no and the other party stops then fine. It’s a mistake. That’s it. Go to a club and touch someone without asking first. You’ll be kicked out instantly. Bit of a difference than meeting 2 other people for sex? X" The scenario might be different but both situations are the same as far as consent goes. | |||
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. I simply shook my head and he run away quickly. Whilst It shocked me it did Also make me laugh. | |||
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"What if the scenario was reversed? A straight woman has agreed to play with a MF couple with the wife watching only. When she's giving oral to the husband and can't see behind her, she realised the wife has started to lick her pussy. " I'd offer the very same suggestion | |||
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