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Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wont meet married men playing behind wife's back.
Just because people have account on here, doesn't mean morals have to drop.
Married men playing without permission are cheating on their partners.
As for females meeting in the day, not necessarily married, but could be single mothers as previous poster stated. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner? "
I would imagine for the individual the kids maybe seeing them in a 6 man gangbang but hey, not sure |
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over a year ago
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out? "
I read that as you think morals have no place in swinging? |
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over a year ago
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Why does that amuse you??
Some people don't have childminders in the evenings so only meet daytime, whilst the kids are at school.
Not wanting to meet married/attached people is simply a persons choice. |
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"I wont meet married men playing behind wife's back.
Just because people have account on here, doesn't mean morals have to drop.
Married men playing without permission are cheating on their partners.
As for females meeting in the day, not necessarily married, but could be single mothers as previous poster stated."
I'm Playing devils advocat here...
Marriage protection on someone else's marriage is classed as more important?
Or is the image of a role-model adult - children involved or not? |
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"Why does that amuse you??
Some people don't have childminders in the evenings so only meet daytime, whilst the kids are at school.
Not wanting to meet married/attached people is simply a persons choice."
Being a single parent myself, it can be difficult to arrange evenings out, and daytime play is easier for me to arrange.
As some people may have had a bad experience through infidelity, then their preference is not to get involved in any attached situations, unless both partners are consenting. |
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"Why does that amuse you??
Some people don't have childminders in the evenings so only meet daytime, whilst the kids are at school.
Not wanting to meet married/attached people is simply a persons choice."
Thank you for your response.
Clearly it's someones choice...
But what are your _iews on how these choices are classed in importance to each-other?
I'm playing devils advocate...
It's to do with a morals in general...
For instiance:
Some people claim to show monogamy on someone elses part, yet in the same breath being a role-model adult is not so important.
What are your _iews?
For instance would you visit a single mother that was arranging a gang-bang while her child was at school?
My point is; I'm amused to hear what peoples _iews are in regards to the moral standpoint involving marriage, and other people involved, yet still being a active swinger and all the other possible morals involved. |
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out?
I read that as you think morals have no place in swinging?"
In fact it was simply an analogy...
Do you have morals in your swinging?
My analogy is there to help you think.
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"I wont meet married men playing behind wife's back.
Just because people have account on here, doesn't mean morals have to drop.
Married men playing without permission are cheating on their partners.
As for females meeting in the day, not necessarily married, but could be single mothers as previous poster stated."
Exactly.. why is it men think that because you are on here that you will sleep with anyone whether they are cheating or not.. its ridiculous. |
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Don't agree with cheating at all, and a swingers site is not really the place for it, after all just because the marrieds cheating fancy giving it a name of swinging doesn't make it right.
As for kids well we have a 10 year old and although nearly caught us a few times with each other I certainly would prefer him not to know.
We don't and wouldn't cheat and we only play together and been doing this for 15 years (not through this site though) and won't meet marrieds. Despite some saying yes im married but thats got nothing to do with this... oh yes it is has ffs, you don't bring us into to it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I can't meet in the evening, I start growing fangs and getting a thirst for blood!!
Seriously it is a good that people do have their moral standards and then like can gravitate to like, everyone is different and especially on a site such as this one should learn not to be judgemental and move on. |
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over a year ago
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Its not part of my agenda to have meets at my home but if somebody does whilst the kids are at school then i see do problem with it.
I have different _iews on married/attached guys as i have myself had my world destroyed by my fiance.. In saying that not all guys are honest about it. |
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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago
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We deffo don't want our older teenagers to find out we swingers.They secure in the knowledge we been married for 23 years+ still very much in love.
It's our choice + wont be fair to cause embarassement or have them worried about us as parents.
We prefer to play with genuine sngl's or were we know blokes playing with consent from partners/wifes (we have friends like that).It's tricky of course in a Club as you can't tell if they really sngl. or playing away from home so I guess our morals drop in those situations.HOWEVER:it's still better that they play NSA than having an affair!(susie) |
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well i meet while lil ones at school simply as thats when im free .also my private life and family life have zero to do with my choice to swing and kept separate .
i also wont meet married guys because i dont need the complications and baggage that comes with it when theres plenty of single guys who can meet when they please and without the clock watching and sneeking about lol !
i personally dont find anything amusing about stateing when they can meet or who they wont meet . i think it more common sense and logistics ! yes people have morals and why should that be dropped just because they swing ?? i personally cant be arsed with the the potential shit storm that would happen when a spouse finds out their partner has been cheating (which will happen). im here for fun and to relax and enjoy meets ,not to complicate my life and light be stuck in middle of someone elses marital issues ! lol
as for which people class more important their child not walking in or them or married persons spouse finding out ... you seriously have to ask that ?? i take it you dont have kids ...as a parent my child would come above anyone or anything EVERYTIME ! |
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I try not to judge people on why they swing (or have sex with others) - we all have our own reasons for doing what we do.
I would not want to meet up with someone at their place if their children were around (unless they were babes-in-arms). |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I don't see a pecking order in morals but I do in terms of the potential consequences.
Your children finding out in the middle of a gangbang could leave a trauma from which they never recover. The same could be true of a spouse. The difference is that the spouse is an adult, with more knowledge and experience and the ability to better articulate their feelings. The child does not yet have that ability to reason and express their feelings. The spouse can leave, the child cannot.
If I were ever in a relationship I would expect fidelity but not necessarily monogamy. I would expect honesty. That is where the breach of trust happens, not the act of sex. |
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"I wont meet married men playing behind wife's back.
Just because people have account on here, doesn't mean morals have to drop.
Married men playing without permission are cheating on their partners.
As for females meeting in the day, not necessarily married, but could be single mothers as previous poster stated."
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"well i meet while lil ones at school simply as thats when im free .also my private life and family life have zero to do with my choice to swing and kept separate .
i also wont meet married guys because i dont need the complications and baggage that comes with it when theres plenty of single guys who can meet when they please and without the clock watching and sneeking about lol !
i personally dont find anything amusing about stateing when they can meet or who they wont meet . i think it more common sense and logistics ! yes people have morals and why should that be dropped just because they swing ?? i personally cant be arsed with the the potential shit storm that would happen when a spouse finds out their partner has been cheating (which will happen). im here for fun and to relax and enjoy meets ,not to complicate my life and light be stuck in middle of someone elses marital issues ! lol
as for which people class more important their child not walking in or them or married persons spouse finding out ... you seriously have to ask that ?? i take it you dont have kids ...as a parent my child would come above anyone or anything EVERYTIME ! "
Interesting blog 
Interesting despite the fact that my analogy is only hypothetical, bearing no relevance wether if I have kids or not.
Your _iew seems to be more of a cautious one in regards to the potential confrontation or disaster presented when swinging with a married person?
How about all the other people reading this:
Do you care more about the fundamentals of marriage /Cheating etc?
Or the potential disaster if your child, work or social picture was affected by your involvement in swinging? |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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If I were ever in a relationship I would expect fidelity but not necessarily monogamy. I would expect honesty. That is where the breach of trust happens, not the act of sex."
I would agree with that statement - that is what people sometimes confuse.
And no, I don't think morals (which are by and large individual choices) stop at the swing scene; just being involved in the scene for some means a dropping of some morality in the first instance.
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"I don't see a pecking order in morals but I do in terms of the potential consequences.
Your children finding out in the middle of a gangbang could leave a trauma from which they never recover. The same could be true of a spouse. The difference is that the spouse is an adult, with more knowledge and experience and the ability to better articulate their feelings. The child does not yet have that ability to reason and express their feelings. The spouse can leave, the child cannot.
If I were ever in a relationship I would expect fidelity but not necessarily monogamy. I would expect honesty. That is where the breach of trust happens, not the act of sex."
Maybe people on here have a pecking order in their morals?
Maybe they see it as their kids, friends, or work colleagues will never discover anything so it's ok?
Then on the other hand mayby they have such a respect for the fundamentals of marriage they could never possibly involve themselves in anything to defy it?
Or maybe they perceive ceartain consequences easier to ignore?
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner? "
It seems highly unlikely any female would be involved in a 'six man'gangbang whilst they know the kids are due home.
Just because a woman may say can only do meets while the kids are at school,it does not mean they are cheating on someone so i really don't get your point |
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I've met both couples and women (single patrents) who have kids, you simply work around it to a time they won't be around. That's what I did when I was playing before.
Some ladies (and a few men) like daytime meets when the kids are at school, others prefer have the kids elsewhere with a childminder. As long as it's planed carefully then any slip ups are usually avoided.
As long as both parties know the score and sensible arrangements are made then it's okay in my book.
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I meet often while my kids are at school. To be honest what someone is doing doesn't bother me as long As it doesn't mess with my life. Selfish yes but I am not going to pretend that the single guys I meet in a club are not likely to be married.
My one rule is I won't play behind another swingers back. So wouldn't play with one half of a couple.
As to kids coming home to a gang bang. Even my 16year old isn't just allowed out of school. I must pick her up. So no chance of that.
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Slightly off topic with this comment but here goes anyway.
I've had replies from people on this site who say they wouldn't meet me because they have children of similar age etc. I have no problem what so ever with that and I'm happy with the honest reply.
But if I was in their shoes I'd be slightly worried that my children Or even their friends might come across this site with being an adult and bump into their parents.
Does anyone have a similar _iew on this and also what do people who have kids in their 20s make of this? Or has anyone ever had this happen? |
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My sons friends are on here. My daughters 18 with her own profile on here.
My older kids know my lifestyle. And we just don't pry into each other's sex life.
Cali |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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My daughter is well aware of what I get up to, as she was old enough to work it out mostly anyway. I'd rather she got the truth from me than some skewed version from a tabloid.
As for not playing with married people, it has nothing to do with their other half, and everything to do with the fact they can't accommodate, and can usually only meet for 40 mins from 2.30pm on the 2nd Thurdsy after alternative full moons. I don't have the time to wait for that sort of meet.
The OP will never get a 'standard' Fab response, as we all have different morals, as we are all different people. But one thing I do agree with other posters on - my daughter comes first. Always. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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The OP will never get a 'standard' Fab response, as we all have different morals, as we are all different people. But one thing I do agree with other posters on - my daughter comes first. Always."
And there is that sentiment that whatever your morals are... it really is only your business and nobody else's.
And yes, kids come first everytime. |
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"I meet often while my kids are at school. To be honest what someone is doing doesn't bother me as long As it doesn't mess with my life. Selfish yes but I am not going to pretend that the single guys I meet in a club are not likely to be married.
My one rule is I won't play behind another swingers back. So wouldn't play with one half of a couple.
As to kids coming home to a gang bang. Even my 16year old isn't just allowed out of school. I must pick her up. So no chance of that.
Cali"
I've not read all the comments on here. And I only posted this forum to see the responses of diffetent _iews. However this response out of all that i have seen, i could nod my head to. So far I would say I it's the most logical / honest. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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My opinion is that other people's morals are their own concern. I'm not their mother and I am not leading anyone astray - they are, after all, on here anyway. However, I do not like seeing attached people simply because they often cancel at the last minute as something 'domestic' pops up.
As for me - I have a simple philosophy. When I am attached I am utterly and completely monogamous. When I am single I am a total slut. No middle ground.  |
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"Slightly off topic with this comment but here goes anyway.
I've had replies from people on this site who say they wouldn't meet me because they have children of similar age etc. I have no problem what so ever with that and I'm happy with the honest reply.
But if I was in their shoes I'd be slightly worried that my children Or even their friends might come across this site with being an adult and bump into their parents.
Does anyone have a similar _iew on this and also what do people who have kids in their 20s make of this? Or has anyone ever had this happen? "
Now this comment is very interesting!!
Fidelity _iews on this please. |
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"My opinion is that other people's morals are their own concern. I'm not their mother and I am not leading anyone astray - they are, after all, on here anyway. However, I do not like seeing attached people simply because they often cancel at the last minute as something 'domestic' pops up.
As for me - I have a simple philosophy. When I am attached I am utterly and completely monogamous. When I am single I am a total slut. No middle ground. "
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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I would not be worried about bumping into my children as they would not be in the scene until they are considerably older. We discussed this and they feel, as I do, that it is a life style probably more suited to people once they had their family. Hey that is just our _iew.
I personally would nt meet anybody close in age to my own kids or my parents - it would not "feel" right and also we would be at completely different life stages so it would be unlikely we have much in common. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out? "
I think they are two different situations that are trying to be tied together for a reason I am not sure...
the way that it is worded suggestion that it is hypocritical so say you do one, but not the other...... which is very tenious at best....
meeting people at home when children is not there is more about availability for most people.... whereas deciding not to meet married people playing away is very much a moral issue.... |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Slightly off topic with this comment but here goes anyway.
I've had replies from people on this site who say they wouldn't meet me because they have children of similar age etc. I have no problem what so ever with that and I'm happy with the honest reply.
But if I was in their shoes I'd be slightly worried that my children Or even their friends might come across this site with being an adult and bump into their parents.
Does anyone have a similar _iew on this and also what do people who have kids in their 20s make of this? Or has anyone ever had this happen?
Now this comment is very interesting!!
Fidelity _iews on this please. "
Not quite the same but my daughter is 30. She split up over a year ago from her long-term partner. She knows what I do online (we have that kind of open and honest relationship) but not what sites I am on. She recently signed up to OKCupid which I am also on so I had to tell her I was there. So far neither of us has bumped into each other but then, both being female looking for male it is unlikely. |
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
Why do you assume the day time meet will be at the woman's house?"
I'm a single mum and only meet when kids are at school or at parents but I don't accommodate
And I don't meet married or attached guys
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
Why do you assume the day time meet will be at the woman's house?"
My thoughts exactly... |
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out? "
I haven't time to read all the replies so if someone's said this then apols BUT.....
Can only meet while the kids are at school ...simply means.... when MY kids are HOME I am LOOKING after them. |
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No kids and no baggage here.
I do not knowingly meet gents that are in a significant relationship, regardless whether they have permission to play alone or not, for the reason that I do not wish to be cited as a home-breaker ever again.
Been there, done that, with 2 broken marriages behind me, one of which was my own.
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out?
I haven't time to read all the replies so if someone's said this then apols BUT.....
Can only meet while the kids are at school ...simply means.... when MY kids are HOME I am LOOKING after them. "
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
It seems highly unlikely any female would be involved in a 'six man'gangbang whilst they know the kids are due home.
Just because a woman may say can only do meets while the kids are at school,it does not mean they are cheating on someone so i really don't get your point"
Ok never mind...
Not everyone can grasp the subject firmly.
I would suggest looking up the word fidelity first and then returning. It is a common used word with connotations toward two sexual partners. However the meaning can be applied to far more subjects. Many People have morals involving different things. My analogy was only to make you think.
Here's another one:
Would you have loud sex if you knew your child or someone else's child was awake in the next room? Some would say that's morally wrong. Would you talk about sex at the dinner table among strangers? Some would say that's morally wrong too. That behaviour in some people's eyes are not seen as that of a respectable adult showing fidelity to what makes a decent person.
Some people have more morals in one baskets than the other.
Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any, if so what are they?
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out? "
There are many married swingers on here that pretend not to be married, sometimes people have a need to explore as thier own partner may not be a sexual person, is it better to swing in a safe way (condoms) or visita prostitute as alot of married men do?!
I enjoy sex and have a relationship, they are not mutally inseperatable.
The worst thing about an affair to most women is the emotional connection betwean their husband and the other person and not the sex.
Sex for gratification is just sex.
I would rather have a dalance with a maried woman away from her home than one whos kids may walk in! |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any, if so what are they?
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Ok, I think I understand what you are asking.
I do have morals re swinging. They include
- honesty and not knowingly meeting married men.
- not rubbing my lifestyle into anybody else's face and that would include having sex anywhere where there is a remote chance of children witnessing the act. I would not play in somebody's house where there are children of ANY age.
- treading carefully and trying to avoid upsetting anybody.
- Causing no harm |
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I have two rules that I live by and my children will always come first they will never wake up to a stranger in my bed and they will never have a load of *uncles* in and out of their lives what I do in my free time is just that my time I do meet at home when they are at school but if I play then its away from home and in the safety of a club x |
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out?
I think they are two different situations that are trying to be tied together for a reason I am not sure...
the way that it is worded suggestion that it is hypocritical so say you do one, but not the other...... which is very tenious at best....
meeting people at home when children is not there is more about availability for most people.... whereas deciding not to meet married people playing away is very much a moral issue.... "
Interesting...
Read my reply to Terry Strobe.
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
Why do you assume the day time meet will be at the woman's house?"
In reply to both of your posts:
Devils advocate hypothetical analogy.
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
Why do you assume the day time meet will be at the woman's house?
I'm a single mum and only meet when kids are at school or at parents but I don't accommodate
And I don't meet married or attached guys
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"I have two rules that I live by and my children will always come first they will never wake up to a stranger in my bed and they will never have a load of *uncles* in and out of their lives what I do in my free time is just that my time I do meet at home when they are at school but if I play then its away from home and in the safety of a club x"
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Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any, if so what are they?
Ok, I think I understand what you are asking.
I do have morals re swinging. They include
- honesty and not knowingly meeting married men.
- not rubbing my lifestyle into anybody else's face and that would include having sex anywhere where there is a remote chance of children witnessing the act. I would not play in somebody's house where there are children of ANY age.
- treading carefully and trying to avoid upsetting anybody.
- Causing no harm "
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
Why do you assume the day time meet will be at the woman's house?
In reply to both of your posts:
Devils advocate hypothetical analogy.
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"No kids and no baggage here.
I do not knowingly meet gents that are in a significant relationship, regardless whether they have permission to play alone or not, for the reason that I do not wish to be cited as a home-breaker ever again.
Been there, done that, with 2 broken marriages behind me, one of which was my own.
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out?
I haven't time to read all the replies so if someone's said this then apols BUT.....
Can only meet while the kids are at school ...simply means.... when MY kids are HOME I am LOOKING after them. "
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
Why do you assume the day time meet will be at the woman's house?
In reply to both of your posts:
Devils advocate hypothetical analogy.
Which... hypothetical or an analogy?"
Apply it to both of your posts.
If you can't figure it out I can't help you.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Swinging is a lifestyle and it is an individuals choice to enter into this or not. We all have morals and they are unique to each individual, they may not match anyone else's but equally not for others to sit in judgement upon them. Respect for individual choices is paramount but it seems that some people feel it is their right to judge.
An old saying "people in glass houses should not throw stones" if they do it is their own glass panes they break first. For every finger pointing in judgement there will be 3 or more pointing straight back at ya no matter what. No one is perfect and it is far from ideal sometimes, but respect for an individual at all times. Oh dear I have wittered on. Thanks for your time xxx |
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"Oh..... and P.S.
No SECRETIVE marrieds or attacheds means just that. They don't want to play with cheaters.
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Some morals for both sides?
What advice would you say to the man who has sex on his wifes bed with another woman? What would you say to the woman who has a gang-bang in the living room where the kids play?
I guess the scenarios can go on lol...
Food for thought...
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Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any, if so what are they?
Ok, I think I understand what you are asking.
I do have morals re swinging. They include
- honesty and not knowingly meeting married men.
- not rubbing my lifestyle into anybody else's face and that would include having sex anywhere where there is a remote chance of children witnessing the act. I would not play in somebody's house where there are children of ANY age.
- treading carefully and trying to avoid upsetting anybody.
- Causing no harm "
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Oh..... and P.S.
No SECRETIVE marrieds or attacheds means just that. They don't want to play with cheaters.
Some morals for both sides?
What advice would you say to the man who has sex on his wifes bed with another woman? What would you say to the woman who has a gang-bang in the living room where the kids play?
I guess the scenarios can go on lol...
Food for thought...
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again... are you trying to link both into being hypocritical if you do one but not the other?
you are going round the houses, but not actually presenting a _iew...
if it as if you are trying to create an arguement, but when people ask you for your opinion you stand back and say "not me guv.. don't have one"..... |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Oh..... and P.S.
No SECRETIVE marrieds or attacheds means just that. They don't want to play with cheaters.
Some morals for both sides?
What advice would you say to the man who has sex on his wifes bed with another woman? What would you say to the woman who has a gang-bang in the living room where the kids play?
I guess the scenarios can go on lol...
Food for thought...
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The scenarios can go on and on, and get more ridiculous. Horror of horrors I have had sex in my bed and I have had the kids sleep with me in that bed. I've had sex in my living room and then had people over to watch a film. Just NEVER at the same time (except where watching a film has led to sex).
The word moral comes from the Latin, moralis, for custom. We use it now around the principles of right and wrong behaviour or the principles for proper conduct. You seem to be using it solely on the judgment of the good or bad of action and character. Morals are personal but, for most of us, shaped on custom and conditioning.
It's a good debate but I now get the sense that debate isn't what you want and the thread is more of a survey. |
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"Oh..... and P.S.
No SECRETIVE marrieds or attacheds means just that. They don't want to play with cheaters.
Some morals for both sides?
What advice would you say to the man who has sex on his wifes bed with another woman? What would you say to the woman who has a gang-bang in the living room where the kids play?
I guess the scenarios can go on lol...
Food for thought...
The scenarios can go on and on, and get more ridiculous. Horror of horrors I have had sex in my bed and I have had the kids sleep with me in that bed. I've had sex in my living room and then had people over to watch a film. Just NEVER at the same time (except where watching a film has led to sex).
The word moral comes from the Latin, moralis, for custom. We use it now around the principles of right and wrong behaviour or the principles for proper conduct. You seem to be using it solely on the judgment of the good or bad of action and character. Morals are personal but, for most of us, shaped on custom and conditioning.
It's a good debate but I now get the sense that debate isn't what you want and the thread is more of a survey."
Brilliant.
And yes a debate is what I intended.
I like the fact that you know some details on the English language.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"It's a good debate but I now get the sense that debate isn't what you want and the thread is more of a survey.
Brilliant.
And yes a debate is what I intended.
I like the fact that you know some details on the English language.
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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Brilliant.
And yes a debate is what I intended.
I like the fact that you know some details on the English language.
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What made you make such a condescending remark on another poster who has shown many times over that she is one of the most eloquent people on the forums? I am just curious why you feel the need for this? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Can I ask what your _iews are on the subject?
would like to know this also
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I believe the OP has yet to answer Rugby's question. "
I am sure there is no answer to give. The OP wants a debate but is merely overseeing proceedings. If it slows down too much he prompts. To be fair, at no point has the OP indicated he intended to give a _iew. On the other hand, he has never said he won't give an answer when asked for his _iew. All very paternalistic.
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I haven't answered this because I've thought from the beginning it was something more than a simple question.
With the OP not outright refusing to give his _iews, but flatly ignoring those asking him, it seems I was right.
I doubt we'll find out what vested interest the OP has in the matter.
This kind of "discussion"? Well, let's just say it's not my thing. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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With the OP not outright refusing to give his _iews, but flatly ignoring those asking him, it seems I was right.
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That makes me think about whether an OP who posts a question of this kind, asks for people's _iew on things, etc. is expected to have a _iew. I dont mean in this specific thread but in general.
Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question? |
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"But one thing I do agree with other posters on - my daughter comes first. Always."
Good god, I'm attending a social alongside a woman who has sex races against her daughter!
Your constant losses probably boil down to your vaginal muscles being a bit flibedy dibbly with age 
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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With the OP not outright refusing to give his _iews, but flatly ignoring those asking him, it seems I was right.
That makes me think about whether an OP who posts a question of this kind, asks for people's _iew on things, etc. is expected to have a _iew. I dont mean in this specific thread but in general.
Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question? "
I think if asked outright you should respond, but them be my morals and I would not want to impose them on anyone else.
Many people who start threads don't give their _iew. They set the ball rolling and every once in a while give it a kick. |
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Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question? "
Would say yes..
a mentor once told me 'never ask a question you dont know the answer to'..
Anyone using the phrase 'am just playing devils advocate' will have a firm _iew on the issue..imho
this from the tone and 'attitude' of the op was only ever going to end thus.. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question?
Would say yes..
a mentor once told me 'never ask a question you dont know the answer to'..
Anyone using the phrase 'am just playing devils advocate' will have a firm _iew on the issue..imho
this from the tone and 'attitude' of the op was only ever going to end thus.."
It's not over until the fat lady sings. Or, the thread reaches 175 posts. |
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Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question?
Would say yes..
a mentor once told me 'never ask a question you dont know the answer to'..
Anyone using the phrase 'am just playing devils advocate' will have a firm _iew on the issue..imho
this from the tone and 'attitude' of the op was only ever going to end thus..
It's not over until the fat lady sings. Or, the thread reaches 175 posts. "
true lol..
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
Why do you assume the day time meet will be at the woman's house?
In reply to both of your posts:
Devils advocate hypothetical analogy.
Which... hypothetical or an analogy?
Apply it to both of your posts.
If you can't figure it out I can't help you.
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I know what you want me to apply 'it' to... I am asking what 'it' is? Is 'it' hypothetical or is 'it' an analogy?
If you can't figure that out then I can't help YOU.... and you appear to need the help way more than I do  |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"But one thing I do agree with other posters on - my daughter comes first. Always.
Good god, I'm attending a social alongside a woman who has sex races against her daughter!
Your constant losses probably boil down to your vaginal muscles being a bit flibedy dibbly with age
M"
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"Oh..... and P.S.
No SECRETIVE marrieds or attacheds means just that. They don't want to play with cheaters.
Some morals for both sides?
What advice would you say to the man who has sex on his wifes bed with another woman? What would you say to the woman who has a gang-bang in the living room where the kids play?
I guess the scenarios can go on lol...
Food for thought...
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My advice would be ...... Make it memorable and leave no wet patches.
To the woman who has a gang bang where the kids play ........ 'If you reach out for a toy make sure it's not fuggin Buzz Lightyear. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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My advice would be ...... Make it memorable and leave no wet patches.
To the woman who has a gang bang where the kids play ........ 'If you reach out for a toy make sure it's not fuggin Buzz Lightyear. "
"To infinity and beyond!" |
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My advice would be ...... Make it memorable and leave no wet patches.
To the woman who has a gang bang where the kids play ........ 'If you reach out for a toy make sure it's not fuggin Buzz Lightyear.
"To infinity and beyond!""
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Strikes me as being one of those people that think married swingers are immoral because they have sex with other people. Throwing in comments to get people's backs up. The 'gangbangs in the living room where kids play' comment is vile in my opinion.
Other than that I can't be arsed to comment further. |
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"What's worse?
Kids coming home from school while mum is in full-on 6man gang-bang.
Or being confronted by someone partner?
Why do you assume the day time meet will be at the woman's house?
In reply to both of your posts:
Devils advocate hypothetical analogy.
Which... hypothetical or an analogy?
Apply it to both of your posts.
If you can't figure it out I can't help you.
I know what you want me to apply 'it' to... I am asking what 'it' is? Is 'it' hypothetical or is 'it' an analogy?
If you can't figure that out then I can't help YOU.... and you appear to need the help way more than I do "
What da?! Who da?! lol!
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"Strikes me as being one of those people that think married swingers are immoral because they have sex with other people. Throwing in comments to get people's backs up. The 'gangbangs in the living room where kids play' comment is vile in my opinion.
Other than that I can't be arsed to comment further. "
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"It's a good debate but I now get the sense that debate isn't what you want and the thread is more of a survey.
Brilliant.
And yes a debate is what I intended.
I like the fact that you know some details on the English language.
God lord, condescension too! "
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"Oh..... and P.S.
No SECRETIVE marrieds or attacheds means just that. They don't want to play with cheaters.
Some morals for both sides?
What advice would you say to the man who has sex on his wifes bed with another woman? What would you say to the woman who has a gang-bang in the living room where the kids play?
I guess the scenarios can go on lol...
Food for thought...
again... are you trying to link both into being hypocritical if you do one but not the other?
you are going round the houses, but not actually presenting a _iew...
if it as if you are trying to create an arguement, but when people ask you for your opinion you stand back and say "not me guv.. don't have one"....."
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Brilliant.
And yes a debate is what I intended.
I like the fact that you know some details on the English language.
What made you make such a condescending remark on another poster who has shown many times over that she is one of the most eloquent people on the forums? I am just curious why you feel the need for this? "
Sorry for my late reply.
No no people settle down. I read her reply and was amazed to see the detail she went into. My reaction was one of applaud. If I hated it I would have said so. I liked it. I'm a very respectful guy just so you know. No feelings hurt I hope. After all, I posted this to read interesting responses,and that post was probably one of the most interesting.
Phew. I thought the shotguns were being loaded for me just then lol xxx |
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Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question?
Would say yes..
a mentor once told me 'never ask a question you dont know the answer to'..
Anyone using the phrase 'am just playing devils advocate' will have a firm _iew on the issue..imho
this from the tone and 'attitude' of the op was only ever going to end thus..
It's not over until the fat lady sings. Or, the thread reaches 175 posts.
true lol..
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"Strikes me as being one of those people that think married swingers are immoral because they have sex with other people. Throwing in comments to get people's backs up. The 'gangbangs in the living room where kids play' comment is vile in my opinion.
Other than that I can't be arsed to comment further.
Please comment. "
I apologise. Perhaps I was wrong.
Either way, it is an interesting thread. X |
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With the OP not outright refusing to give his _iews, but flatly ignoring those asking him, it seems I was right.
That makes me think about whether an OP who posts a question of this kind, asks for people's _iew on things, etc. is expected to have a _iew. I dont mean in this specific thread but in general.
Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question?
I think if asked outright you should respond, but them be my morals and I would not want to impose them on anyone else.
Many people who start threads don't give their _iew. They set the ball rolling and every once in a while give it a kick."
yes that would be me. |
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out? "
Do I have morals in swinging? - I have morals which effect the way I live all my life, swinging is just a very small part of it.
Which is more detrimental kids or someone partner finding out? - It depends completely on the context, but neither of these are a direct question about morals. Morals are not about being caught or people 'finding out', they are about doing what you believe to be the right thing regardless of the potential of being caught based on your core values or customs.
With that in mind I suggest that no level headed person would say it is wrong in any way to have sex in your own home, one would want to protect their own privacy and the 'innocence' of their children, but is it wrong?
Sex with a married person behind their partners back wherever it happens involves deceit.
The key difference between the two scenarios is that one involves deceit. Forget the sex for a moment, the aspect that many people take issue with is implicit deceit.
The Op is trying to compare two scenarios but has decided not to provide two scenarios that involve deceit. Comparing apples and pears is one thing but........ |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"I have no _iew at the moment - or at least not one that I care to share at this time.
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.....if that if the case why should people share their _iews with you if you are not prepared to do the same?
In fact it could be seen are being very "hypocritical".
Kinda ironic bearing in mind how the opening post could be perceived! |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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I have my morals as outlined above and I hope that whatever I do in life, in the scene or outside, will never affect anybody else in a detrimental way. That sums up my mantra.
I do not wish to criticise the OP for posting the thread which has indeed been very interesting.
I do not believe one necessarily has to take a stance, it is ok to sit on the dence sometimes and just to watch what happens.
Somehow I cannot help but feel that while many people have posted genuine comments the vibes I get from you, OP come across as a little arrogant.
Maybe that is because this communication is through the written word as opposed to full human interaction, face to face with intonation, pitch and a chance to correct instantly what might have been misunderstood. I apologise if that was not teh OPs intention; I a only expression a slightly uncomfortable feeling.
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out? "
We've all been through school and know how cruel kids can be to each other, kids should be protected from knowing what mum an dad get up to in the bedroom, finding out your child was being bullied at school because the rest of the school knows his/her parents are on a sex site is not something I'd like my kids to find out.
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over a year ago
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"I have my morals as outlined above and I hope that whatever I do in life, in the scene or outside, will never affect anybody else in a detrimental way. That sums up my mantra.
I do not wish to criticise the OP for posting the thread which has indeed been very interesting.
I do not believe one necessarily has to take a stance, it is ok to sit on the dence sometimes and just to watch what happens.
Somehow I cannot help but feel that while many people have posted genuine comments the vibes I get from you, OP come across as a little arrogant.
Maybe that is because this communication is through the written word as opposed to full human interaction, face to face with intonation, pitch and a chance to correct instantly what might have been misunderstood. I apologise if that was not teh OPs intention; I a only expression a slightly uncomfortable feeling.
Peace with everybody! "
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"Morals on fidelity while swinging. Do you have any - if so what are they?
Some profiles amuse me...
They say things like "I can only do day time meets while the kids are at school"
Then later in the profile "...No married men or attached men..."
Whats more detrimental:
The kids finding out?
Or someone's partner finding out?
We've all been through school and know how cruel kids can be to each other, kids should be protected from knowing what mum an dad get up to in the bedroom, finding out your child was being bullied at school because the rest of the school knows his/her parents are on a sex site is not something I'd like my kids to find out.
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"The Op is trying to compare two scenarios but has decided not to provide two scenarios that involve deceit. Comparing apples and pears is one thing but........"
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over a year ago
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"I wont meet married men playing behind wife's back.
Just because people have account on here, doesn't mean morals have to drop.
Married men playing without permission are cheating on their partners.
As for females meeting in the day, not necessarily married, but could be single mothers as previous poster stated.
I'm Playing devils advocat here...
Marriage protection on someone else's marriage is classed as more important?
Or is the image of a role-model adult - children involved or not?"
i actually find this offensive my children or not less important because i am on here there is never any chance my children will find me playing as they are either not here and being looked after by someone else or i am at a hotel and btw good luck meeting after this thread |
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Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question?
Would say yes..
a mentor once told me 'never ask a question you dont know the answer to'..
Anyone using the phrase 'am just playing devils advocate' will have a firm _iew on the issue..imho
this from the tone and 'attitude' of the op was only ever going to end thus..
It's not over until the fat lady sings. Or, the thread reaches 175 posts.
true lol..
I'm just playing devils advocate "
Yes so you keep saying, is this the 4th time you've uttered those words! ... |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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Do we / Can we/ should we expect a stance of some sort from whoever posts a the original question?
Would say yes..
a mentor once told me 'never ask a question you dont know the answer to'..
Anyone using the phrase 'am just playing devils advocate' will have a firm _iew on the issue..imho
this from the tone and 'attitude' of the op was only ever going to end thus..
It's not over until the fat lady sings. Or, the thread reaches 175 posts.
true lol..
I'm just playing devils advocate
Yes so you keep saying, is this the 4th time you've uttered those words! ..."
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Interesting comments. Today I don't have an opinion. I'm just throwing things out there and seeing what comes back."
Hold on....... what happened to the opinion you said you had but didn't care to share an hour before this? |
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Interesting comments. Today I don't have an opinion. I'm just throwing things out there and seeing what comes back.
Hold on....... what happened to the opinion you said you had but didn't care to share an hour before this?"
;-) You really got your eye on me haven't cha!
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Interesting comments. Today I don't have an opinion. I'm just throwing things out there and seeing what comes back.
Hold on....... what happened to the opinion you said you had but didn't care to share an hour before this?
;-) You really got your eye on me haven't cha!
Not yet honey x"
Awww if only hey.
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"Why does that amuse you??
Some people don't have childminders in the evenings so only meet daytime, whilst the kids are at school.
Not wanting to meet married/attached people is simply a persons choice.
Being a single parent myself, it can be difficult to arrange evenings out, and daytime play is easier for me to arrange.
As some people may have had a bad experience through infidelity, then their preference is not to get involved in any attached situations, unless both partners are consenting. "
I'm a single parent too who works full time so fit fun in around when he's away. I meet loving couples together as its consenting and won't meet married ladies behind partners back as I hate dishonesty.. And infedelity. Anyway, kid walking in would only happen if they bunked off school and every bonking parent knows to snib the door |
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