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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I had a nap came back and my thread was full. Full of bollocks and derailment towards the end. I’ll have no continuation of the novel argument although I will say that it was absolutely used in the correct context on that occasions.

Right so couple of points. Guys saying some men don’t get into relationships because they want to protect their material possessions and fear the women want to take half their shit.

That’s the ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement which I’d say are code cousins to the incels.

What about women who have their own shit. What about women who earn more than men, have better cars etc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Incel not novel. Fs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Let's get cynical, cynical. I wanna get cynical

I was actually thinking about starting a thread on this topic. You beat me to it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I had a nap came back and my thread was full. Full of bollocks and derailment towards the end. I’ll have no continuation of the novel argument although I will say that it was absolutely used in the correct context on that occasions.

Right so couple of points. Guys saying some men don’t get into relationships because they want to protect their material possessions and fear the women want to take half their shit.

That’s the ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement which I’d say are code cousins to the incels.

What about women who have their own shit. What about women who earn more than men, have better cars etc.

"

Sorry your thread got derailed.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land

I'm one of those women, and I worked hard to get where I am. So using the logic used by some I should be top of the pecking order when it comes to dating. However, that wasn't the case. So I don't know if it really is due to fear of loosing assets.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan  over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"I had a nap came back and my thread was full. Full of bollocks and derailment towards the end. I’ll have no continuation of the novel argument although I will say that it was absolutely used in the correct context on that occasions.

Right so couple of points. Guys saying some men don’t get into relationships because they want to protect their material possessions and fear the women want to take half their shit.

That’s the ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement which I’d say are code cousins to the incels.

What about women who have their own shit. What about women who earn more than men, have better cars etc.

"

I couldn't give a shite about that . As long as whoever it is a decent person and we respect each other we will be friends simple

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"I had a nap came back and my thread was full. Full of bollocks and derailment towards the end. I’ll have no continuation of the novel argument although I will say that it was absolutely used in the correct context on that occasions.

Right so couple of points. Guys saying some men don’t get into relationships because they want to protect their material possessions and fear the women want to take half their shit.

That’s the ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement which I’d say are code cousins to the incels.

What about women who have their own shit. What about women who earn more than men, have better cars etc.

I couldn't give a shite about that . As long as whoever it is a decent person and we respect each other we will be friends simple "

This love is love. I might be simple and naive but that's all there is to it for me

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I had a nap came back and my thread was full. Full of bollocks and derailment towards the end. I’ll have no continuation of the novel argument although I will say that it was absolutely used in the correct context on that occasions.

Right so couple of points. Guys saying some men don’t get into relationships because they want to protect their material possessions and fear the women want to take half their shit.

That’s the ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement which I’d say are code cousins to the incels.

What about women who have their own shit. What about women who earn more than men, have better cars etc.

Sorry your thread got derailed. "

It wasn’t you, was someone taking offence to something on someone else’s behalf who wasn’t even arsed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm suspicious of men periodically when several of them have lied about being involved with someone else. Suspicious when men chat just so they can get some sexting I'd see more pics. That's happened of late so I'm in the mode.

Generally there are lots of great things about men and I like them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People should be kind and respect and support each other. Nowadays these seems a rarity

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I had a nap came back and my thread was full. Full of bollocks and derailment towards the end. I’ll have no continuation of the novel argument although I will say that it was absolutely used in the correct context on that occasions.

Right so couple of points. Guys saying some men don’t get into relationships because they want to protect their material possessions and fear the women want to take half their shit.

That’s the ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement which I’d say are code cousins to the incels.

What about women who have their own shit. What about women who earn more than men, have better cars etc.

Sorry your thread got derailed.

It wasn’t you, was someone taking offence to something on someone else’s behalf who wasn’t even arsed. "

Still, I saw the message count and thought you will be back and it will be full!!

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan  over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"I had a nap came back and my thread was full. Full of bollocks and derailment towards the end. I’ll have no continuation of the novel argument although I will say that it was absolutely used in the correct context on that occasions.

Right so couple of points. Guys saying some men don’t get into relationships because they want to protect their material possessions and fear the women want to take half their shit.

That’s the ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement which I’d say are code cousins to the incels.

What about women who have their own shit. What about women who earn more than men, have better cars etc.

I couldn't give a shite about that . As long as whoever it is a decent person and we respect each other we will be friends simple

This love is love. I might be simple and naive but that's all there is to it for me "

Exactly xx

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed

Why is it a gender issue?

Surely it is just a human relationship issue, some homosexuals I am sure have similar views.

So less a gender issue more a issue of how you manage your relationships.

We share everything where as I know others split finances.

I'm not going to value one way over another but having no long term relationships is just an extension of this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It’s just sooo much simpler to be single and happy.

Why would I give away any of my freedoms? Why would I make my life more complicated? A man can’t bring anything to my table that I don’t already bring myself so I have no need for one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've been turned down for a job after the company owner said his wife wouldn't like it if he took me on .

I've been on dating sites (when they were actually used for proper dating. Remember those days?!) Where guys have turn me down because of my career / qualifications. They said they would feel less of a man by dating me due to my career and qualifications .

My ex took my money and kept on asking for more cash. Proper gold digger.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Because both Men and Women have made wrong choices in the past. Perhaps.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Some women also walk away with nothing but their pride, not every woman is a money grabber and yes, plenty have their own money. Unfortunately it's another outdated view that all woman are gold diggers and are laughing all the way to the bank if they get divorced.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I will always be suspicious of the gender that has the ability to break my heart.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense? What if you become a couple and move into her home?

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By *haron StonerTV/TS  over a year ago

Haywards Heath


"Why is it a gender issue?

Surely it is just a human relationship issue, some homosexuals I am sure have similar views.

So less a gender issue more a issue of how you manage your relationships.

We share everything where as I know others split finances.

I'm not going to value one way over another but having no long term relationships is just an extension of this. "

If it works, it doesn't matter if it doesn't tick the boxes in someone else's relationship. It works because people accept they're different people but like each other enough, material things don't come into it.

And if your worried about your partner nicking your shit, then your off on the wrong foot already.

This why we have pre nuptial contracts to show and prove how shallow we are.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some women also walk away with nothing but their pride, not every woman is a money grabber and yes, plenty have their own money. Unfortunately it's another outdated view that all woman are gold diggers and are laughing all the way to the bank if they get divorced.

"

Very true.

My sister is twice divorced. After both of those break ups, she was still skint just like before.

I've been the victim of male gold diggers twice now.

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By *haron StonerTV/TS  over a year ago

Haywards Heath


"I've been turned down for a job after the company owner said his wife wouldn't like it if he took me on .

I've been on dating sites (when they were actually used for proper dating. Remember those days?!) Where guys have turn me down because of my career / qualifications. They said they would feel less of a man by dating me due to my career and qualifications .

My ex took my money and kept on asking for more cash. Proper gold digger. "

Why would people be hung up on that, I don't care about your money or if your stilettos make look like a short ass. If I'm happy, your happy and that is all that matters. Nice to share a life together, why mire it down with pettiness.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed


"Why is it a gender issue?

Surely it is just a human relationship issue, some homosexuals I am sure have similar views.

So less a gender issue more a issue of how you manage your relationships.

We share everything where as I know others split finances.

I'm not going to value one way over another but having no long term relationships is just an extension of this.

If it works, it doesn't matter if it doesn't tick the boxes in someone else's relationship. It works because people accept they're different people but like each other enough, material things don't come into it.

And if your worried about your partner nicking your shit, then your off on the wrong foot already.

This why we have pre nuptial contracts to show and prove how shallow we are. "

Exactly why does it matter if someone does not want a long term relationship? It's their choice.

Be with someone who does want one and all will be good.

I'd rather more people were cautious about commitment than just rushing into a big commitment without considering all the consequences of that choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Because some people like to make someone the bad guy/women.

Rather than see we share similar problems one wants to blame the other (as a whole).

All Men are xyz.

All Women are xyz.

Men and women can be as equally shitty in their own way.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"Because some people like to make someone the bad guy/women.

Rather than see we share similar problems one wants to blame the other (as a whole).

All Men are xyz.

All Women are xyz.

Men and women can be as equally shitty in their own way. "

This, and yes we have bias to what we've experienced. But surely everyone should be open to listening on the others life experiences?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Men and women can be as equally shitty in their own way. "

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By *a LunaWoman  over a year ago

South

I think a lot of folk carry their emotional hurts with them for a very, very long time and makes them reluctant to put themselves in a vulnerable position again.

You see it on Fab all the time. All said as off the cuff comments but that they are determined to never love/commit to another again. Swearing off the opposite sex. They are only here for casual sex as they have no wish to settle down EVER AGAIN.

And that’s fine if that’s what you truly want. But I suspect a lot of it is just bravado in a lot of cases.

But anyway, that said, I only see that sort of thing on here. Amongst friends etc over the years that’s not my experience.

People get hurt, they heal, they move on.

And this is both men and women, I’m not singling any out. I’ve seen men and women emotionally devastated by the end of relationships.

But it seems (to me) to be only on fab where it is seen as a badge of honour to be steadfastly unavailable and eternally single. When did being in a relationship turn into being seen as a bad thing? What’s wrong with being loved?

Waffling now I know, sorry…

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed

Given the change to marriage over the last few years I do wonder whether there will be a change coming in future were friends marry friends (could be male or female) but keep sex outside of their relationship.

People might make better life partner choices commuting to their friends and child rearing with friends, as opposed to doing that with someone who they got together with due to sexual attraction.

Also means you can change your sexual partner without it getting tied into the other more complex and challenging parts of having a relationship.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w

Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think its probably only as people get older and a bit battered and brusised by life and previous relationships they can be suspicious of each other, and the hurts they can inflict. I like to think youngsters in their first flush of youth still have all the hope and trusts of good lasting love. And that there is someone there for all the more jaded amongst us too. People are just protecting themselves I dont think they mean to be suspicious and wary, it's just circumstances.

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By *iamondCougarWoman  over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire


"Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense?

What if you become a couple and move into her home? "

He gets a wake up call when I ask for a half contribution towards the running costs of said home

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I think its probably only as people get older and a bit battered and brusised by life and previous relationships they can be suspicious of each other, and the hurts they can inflict. I like to think youngsters in their first flush of youth still have all the hope and trusts of good lasting love. And that there is someone there for all the more jaded amongst us too. People are just protecting themselves I dont think they mean to be suspicious and wary, it's just circumstances. "

I'm not suspicious of people but I place my trust wisely.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me "

I was about to get on the defensive then but you’re actually right. IT IS easier for a woman to cheat. I reckon any woman regardless of looks could go out and get extra marital sex with no issue at all but would be harder for the man.

That being said I think women are less likely to cheat just to get some extra sex cos their fella would be more than happy to provide it. Also think women need more of an emotional connection and would need to know the person a fair bit in order for them to cheat.

Think guys are more opportunistic cheaters than plan to cheaters.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"I had a nap came back and my thread was full. Full of bollocks and derailment towards the end. I’ll have no continuation of the novel argument although I will say that it was absolutely used in the correct context on that occasions.

Right so couple of points. Guys saying some men don’t get into relationships because they want to protect their material possessions and fear the women want to take half their shit.

That’s the ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ movement which I’d say are code cousins to the incels.

What about women who have their own shit. What about women who earn more than men, have better cars etc.

"

Some people are very suspicious, some are very trusting, and there’s every shade possible in between.

Not really sure what you are asking.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

I was about to get on the defensive then but you’re actually right. IT IS easier for a woman to cheat. I reckon any woman regardless of looks could go out and get extra marital sex with no issue at all but would be harder for the man.

That being said I think women are less likely to cheat just to get some extra sex cos their fella would be more than happy to provide it. Also think women need more of an emotional connection and would need to know the person a fair bit in order for them to cheat.

Think guys are more opportunistic cheaters than plan to cheaters. "

True but it doesn’t settle any of my issues

The idea that a girlfriend or wife could download tinder and have a different penis in her mouth weekly with no risk of getting caught

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Given the change to marriage over the last few years I do wonder whether there will be a change coming in future were friends marry friends (could be male or female) but keep sex outside of their relationship.

People might make better life partner choices commuting to their friends and child rearing with friends, as opposed to doing that with someone who they got together with due to sexual attraction.

Also means you can change your sexual partner without it getting tied into the other more complex and challenging parts of having a relationship. "

This is the relationship/ marriage that I'd have. Friendships seem to last, whereas sexuality/ needs and wants can evolve more over time.

I think sex muddies the waters.

Or people get together because they fancy the person, then time changes/ ages them and the attraction wanes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

I was about to get on the defensive then but you’re actually right. IT IS easier for a woman to cheat. I reckon any woman regardless of looks could go out and get extra marital sex with no issue at all but would be harder for the man.

That being said I think women are less likely to cheat just to get some extra sex cos their fella would be more than happy to provide it. Also think women need more of an emotional connection and would need to know the person a fair bit in order for them to cheat.

Think guys are more opportunistic cheaters than plan to cheaters.

True but it doesn’t settle any of my issues

The idea that a girlfriend or wife could download tinder and have a different penis in her mouth weekly with no risk of getting caught "

Right I’m not blowing smoke up my arse but if I wanted to I could clean up on sites like this. I could have a cock in the mouth, and be skiing with a pair of cocks in each hand IF I wanted to.

If I had a boyfriend, thinking of getting cock from elsewhere would be the absolute last thing on my mind.

I don’t think women really want to have lots of different men, even on here a lot of the single women would be more than happy just having the one regular guy over loads of one offs.

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By *agerMorganMan  over a year ago

Canvey Island

Some of the comments I’ve seen here are emotionally charged! That doesn’t help with trying to provide a view…

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

I was about to get on the defensive then but you’re actually right. IT IS easier for a woman to cheat. I reckon any woman regardless of looks could go out and get extra marital sex with no issue at all but would be harder for the man.

That being said I think women are less likely to cheat just to get some extra sex cos their fella would be more than happy to provide it. Also think women need more of an emotional connection and would need to know the person a fair bit in order for them to cheat.

Think guys are more opportunistic cheaters than plan to cheaters.

True but it doesn’t settle any of my issues

The idea that a girlfriend or wife could download tinder and have a different penis in her mouth weekly with no risk of getting caught

Right I’m not blowing smoke up my arse but if I wanted to I could clean up on sites like this. I could have a cock in the mouth, and be skiing with a pair of cocks in each hand IF I wanted to.

If I had a boyfriend, thinking of getting cock from elsewhere would be the absolute last thing on my mind.

I don’t think women really want to have lots of different men, even on here a lot of the single women would be more than happy just having the one regular guy over loads of one offs.

"

Doesn’t help my mistrust though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think a lot of folk carry their emotional hurts with them for a very, very long time and makes them reluctant to put themselves in a vulnerable position again.

You see it on Fab all the time. All said as off the cuff comments but that they are determined to never love/commit to another again. Swearing off the opposite sex. They are only here for casual sex as they have no wish to settle down EVER AGAIN.

And that’s fine if that’s what you truly want. But I suspect a lot of it is just bravado in a lot of cases.

But anyway, that said, I only see that sort of thing on here. Amongst friends etc over the years that’s not my experience.

People get hurt, they heal, they move on.

And this is both men and women, I’m not singling any out. I’ve seen men and women emotionally devastated by the end of relationships.

But it seems (to me) to be only on fab where it is seen as a badge of honour to be steadfastly unavailable and eternally single. When did being in a relationship turn into being seen as a bad thing? What’s wrong with being loved?

Waffling now I know, sorry…"

Absolutely not.

Usually I lose concentration after the first 5 lines but I read all of that post.

I agree

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By *hancer666Man  over a year ago

Redbourn


"Some women also walk away with nothing but their pride, not every woman is a money grabber and yes, plenty have their own money. Unfortunately it's another outdated view that all woman are gold diggers and are laughing all the way to the bank if they get divorced.

Very true.

My sister is twice divorced. After both of those break ups, she was still skint just like before.

I've been the victim of male gold diggers twice now. "

Its not a competition girls, but someone has to go for the hatrick yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

I was about to get on the defensive then but you’re actually right. IT IS easier for a woman to cheat. I reckon any woman regardless of looks could go out and get extra marital sex with no issue at all but would be harder for the man.

That being said I think women are less likely to cheat just to get some extra sex cos their fella would be more than happy to provide it. Also think women need more of an emotional connection and would need to know the person a fair bit in order for them to cheat.

Think guys are more opportunistic cheaters than plan to cheaters.

True but it doesn’t settle any of my issues

The idea that a girlfriend or wife could download tinder and have a different penis in her mouth weekly with no risk of getting caught

Right I’m not blowing smoke up my arse but if I wanted to I could clean up on sites like this. I could have a cock in the mouth, and be skiing with a pair of cocks in each hand IF I wanted to.

If I had a boyfriend, thinking of getting cock from elsewhere would be the absolute last thing on my mind.

I don’t think women really want to have lots of different men, even on here a lot of the single women would be more than happy just having the one regular guy over loads of one offs.

"

On here, I think pretty much any woman could.

Men think women can get sex whenever/wherever so why wouldn't they?

Women think men wouldnt say no to sex so why would that change?

We just always think the worst of each other.

And yes I know not always some people are annoyingly loved up

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I think a lot of folk carry their emotional hurts with them for a very, very long time and makes them reluctant to put themselves in a vulnerable position again.

You see it on Fab all the time. All said as off the cuff comments but that they are determined to never love/commit to another again. Swearing off the opposite sex. They are only here for casual sex as they have no wish to settle down EVER AGAIN.

And that’s fine if that’s what you truly want. But I suspect a lot of it is just bravado in a lot of cases.

But anyway, that said, I only see that sort of thing on here. Amongst friends etc over the years that’s not my experience.

People get hurt, they heal, they move on.

And this is both men and women, I’m not singling any out. I’ve seen men and women emotionally devastated by the end of relationships.

But it seems (to me) to be only on fab where it is seen as a badge of honour to be steadfastly unavailable and eternally single. When did being in a relationship turn into being seen as a bad thing? What’s wrong with being loved?

Waffling now I know, sorry…"

I don't think it's universally seen as a bad thing but I think there are a fair few people who do think that way for whatever reason and they're probably more likely to gravitate towards a site like this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’m suspicious of mosquitoes! I just don’t understand the point of them, they contribute nothing to the world other than the spread of disease! And dinosaur DNA in Jurassic park

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

I was about to get on the defensive then but you’re actually right. IT IS easier for a woman to cheat. I reckon any woman regardless of looks could go out and get extra marital sex with no issue at all but would be harder for the man.

That being said I think women are less likely to cheat just to get some extra sex cos their fella would be more than happy to provide it. Also think women need more of an emotional connection and would need to know the person a fair bit in order for them to cheat.

Think guys are more opportunistic cheaters than plan to cheaters.

True but it doesn’t settle any of my issues

The idea that a girlfriend or wife could download tinder and have a different penis in her mouth weekly with no risk of getting caught

Right I’m not blowing smoke up my arse but if I wanted to I could clean up on sites like this. I could have a cock in the mouth, and be skiing with a pair of cocks in each hand IF I wanted to.

If I had a boyfriend, thinking of getting cock from elsewhere would be the absolute last thing on my mind.

I don’t think women really want to have lots of different men, even on here a lot of the single women would be more than happy just having the one regular guy over loads of one offs.

"

Women get offered sex daily here, so I agree with you. Personally if I had a boyfriend (and I would like that) I would still be interested in other men because I'm not monogamous. But not hookups.

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By *haron StonerTV/TS  over a year ago

Haywards Heath

Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

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By *imi_RougeWoman  over a year ago

Portsmouth


"It’s just sooo much simpler to be single and happy.

Why would I give away any of my freedoms? Why would I make my life more complicated? A man can’t bring anything to my table that I don’t already bring myself so I have no need for one "

Round of applause

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By *imi_RougeWoman  over a year ago

Portsmouth


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me "

Easier, but less likely. Unless there's something they're not getting from you.

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By *imi_RougeWoman  over a year ago

Portsmouth


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"

It's tattooed on... So she doesn't have that problem

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

Easier, but less likely. Unless there's something they're not getting from you."

I think women cheat more then men, but it’s all opinion no one knows

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm suspicious of men periodically when several of them have lied about being involved with someone else. Suspicious when men chat just so they can get some sexting I'd see more pics. That's happened of late so I'm in the mode.

Generally there are lots of great things about men and I like them "

Take the Sex, entanglements out and resources from the men/women dynamic.

What else do we any of us have to bring to the table from a non selfishness level.

Keep it simple and transparent as possible.

If our eye's,heart attraction levels of opposites what not there!!

Would we bother will it All??

Game/Hunt/pursue??

Ie,if we worked and did not get paid,what would we do?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out. "

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers"

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?"

Be careful mate you’ll be getting slagged right off in the group chat

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By *ilverjagMan  over a year ago

swansea

The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

Be careful mate you’ll be getting slagged right off in the group chat "

Oh no I'm shaking.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?"

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

Be careful mate you’ll be getting slagged right off in the group chat

Oh no I'm shaking."

They’ll send the cronies for you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

Be careful mate you’ll be getting slagged right off in the group chat "

What group chat? I'm not in any groups?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun. "

Can you translate please? Are women supposed to be "arm candy"?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her. "

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

Be careful mate you’ll be getting slagged right off in the group chat

Oh no I'm shaking.

They’ll send the cronies for you "

Played through the witcher a few times, think I can handle em.

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By *amie HantsWoman  over a year ago

Atlantis

I’ve been the higher earner in the majority of my relationships. I don’t like the ‘they’re just gold diggers’ attitude from a lot of men. I’d never accuse a guy of only being interested in me because of something like money. Im not sure if it’s a guys insecurities that tell him that’s the only thing a woman would be interested in about him or whether he genuinely has a really negative view of women.

That being said, I’ve changed careers and taken a massive pay cut so if there are any rich eligible bachelors…

I promise I’m not just after the money. wink wink.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now? "

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Maybe people give off a vibe that attracts "gold diggers" male and female?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies. "

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single. "

Nice

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single. "

If that's not a bit of banter fella the it's likely you may well be..

Bit of a low shot and not really needed in all honesty..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single. "

Really! Is that even necessary?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

If that's not a bit of banter fella the it's likely you may well be..

Bit of a low shot and not really needed in all honesty..

"

Agree to disagree.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

"

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Pint

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Maybe people give off a vibe that attracts "gold diggers" male and female?"

Vulnerability will definitely play a part in some of those situations. People who want to attain something will find an angle to work.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes"

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip? "

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Pint "

Of wine? Yes please.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Pint

Of wine? Yes please."

On route. Light the candles.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Pint

Of wine? Yes please.

On route. Light the candles."

Oh go away with your romantic crap, your naked body will do just fine.

Oh and the wine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you. "

Wow

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

Wow"

I know right? Want some popcorn?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Pint

Of wine? Yes please.

On route. Light the candles.

Oh go away with your romantic crap, your naked body will do just fine.

Oh and the wine "

candles cancelled!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

~Well, the way she eye'd up my 'Caterpillar cake' i saw her eyes scan his cheerful face and down past his colourful smarties coat gleefully noticing his 'm&s' badge of honour.

~Yes jennifer, hes the real deal -i thought, as she stood there Leaning away with her hearty hearty lookin tan. Hes a 'colin' i thought, as her eyes widened spotting his little 'm&s' badge.

Now i have to admit at this point im feeling atad sceptical, was it me she was after?

Or was it my vast Caterpillar cake wealth?

would her eyes have widened if it was 'archie' the vegan Caterpillar?

Or id saved £1 and bought a Tesco 'Calli the Caterpillar' with her pink face and obscure heavy weekend on the magic mushrooms eyes.

* 'Going home by tom day' plays *

-Is jennifer a cake digger?

-Will gatsby trust in her?

-Will they make mad passionate love accidentally squashing 'colin' into the quartz worktop on island in the process and live happily ever after?

*'going home by tom day' fades out

To be continued

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you. "

It’s not bragging, simply agreeing with what OP said, it’s true. But you felt the need to be rude about it. Then be rude to another lady and thats after being rude to yet another lady on a prior thread..

You’re being unnecessarily rude to people.

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman  over a year ago

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"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you. "

It’s not bragging, it’s just how it is - women get a lot of messages.

Your comment above on age was nothing but rude and unnecessary, carry on that way and yes I’d say you would still be single

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

Wow

I know right? Want some popcorn?"

I’ll have some but only if it’s sweet. Salty makes my skin tingle (in a bad way) hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

Wow

I know right? Want some popcorn?

I’ll have some but only if it’s sweet. Salty makes my skin tingle (in a bad way) hahaha "

I've got both!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

~Well, the way she eye'd up my 'Caterpillar cake' i saw her eyes scan his cheerful face and down past his colourful smarties coat gleefully noticing his 'm&s' badge of honour.

~Yes jennifer, hes the real deal -i thought, as she stood there Leaning away with her hearty hearty lookin tan. Hes a 'colin' i thought, as her eyes widened spotting his little 'm&s' badge.

Now i have to admit at this point im feeling atad sceptical, was it me she was after?

Or was it my vast Caterpillar cake wealth?

would her eyes have widened if it was 'archie' the vegan Caterpillar?

Or id saved £1 and bought a Tesco 'Calli the Caterpillar' with her pink face and obscure heavy weekend on the magic mushrooms eyes.

* 'Going home by tom day' plays *

-Is jennifer a cake digger?

-Will gatsby trust in her?

-Will they make mad passionate love accidentally squashing 'colin' into the quartz worktop on island in the process and live happily ever after?

*'going home by tom day' fades out

To be continued

"

When's the next instalment land?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you. "

There is no need to be insulting, your comments are out of order, and say a lot about you, and nothing about anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

Wow

I know right? Want some popcorn?

I’ll have some but only if it’s sweet. Salty makes my skin tingle (in a bad way) hahaha

I've got both! "

Fabulous! I’m on my way

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

Wow

I know right? Want some popcorn?

I’ll have some but only if it’s sweet. Salty makes my skin tingle (in a bad way) hahaha

I've got both!

Fabulous! I’m on my way "

Saved you a seat with a good view

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

There is no need to be insulting, your comments are out of order, and say a lot about you, and nothing about anyone else. "

Popcorn, my lovely?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Argue about the thread

Argue about someone's post

Dont resort to being personal

Up with the fugleys x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

There is no need to be insulting, your comments are out of order, and say a lot about you, and nothing about anyone else.

Popcorn, my lovely? "

No popcorn, but I’ll snuggle up with you two

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Slow news day today by the looks of it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"Not blowing smoke up my own arse" then proceeds to attach smoke blower 9000 to anal cavity.

To be honest I highly doubt its the worry of material possessions that have dudes dipping out.

Rude. Here three weeks and you're insulting women. And Calling out single mothers. The OP has no shortage of admirers

Nice to see you making up lies about me. Never called out single mothers and insulted(barely) one women for a massively contradictory comment. And really don't care if people admire her lol. What am I supposed to fall in line with the rest of them?

It's on the thread - people can read it and make up their own minds. But yeah I think saying that single mums often use maintenance for themselves is calling them out.

I'm saying that she has every reason to believe she could clean up here. You were rude about her.

Does it matter? I was making fun about her blowing smoke up her own arse. Which she did. Can you stop crying at me now?

Sure. Good luck with the ladies.

Ill let you know if I'm 52 and still single.

Really! Is that even necessary?

Yes

No it really wasn’t. But no point trying to reason with someone taking a low shot while dick slinging.

As for what you said regarding OP she’s actually right. On a sight like this, single women could clean up IF they chose to. Men far outweigh the women and if women took up every offer in their DM s they really wouldn’t have time for much else.

It’s not really an opinion nor blowing smoke up her arse. Or have you not been here long enough to see how the scales tip?

Been here on and off actually. The scales tip differently for everyone. If ya want to brag about fugly dudes blowing up your inbox you do you.

There is no need to be insulting, your comments are out of order, and say a lot about you, and nothing about anyone else.

Popcorn, my lovely?

No popcorn, but I’ll snuggle up with you two "

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By *haron StonerTV/TS  over a year ago

Haywards Heath


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun. "

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

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By *oshker71Man  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

I was about to get on the defensive then but you’re actually right. IT IS easier for a woman to cheat. I reckon any woman regardless of looks could go out and get extra marital sex with no issue at all but would be harder for the man.

That being said I think women are less likely to cheat just to get some extra sex cos their fella would be more than happy to provide it. Also think women need more of an emotional connection and would need to know the person a fair bit in order for them to cheat.

Think guys are more opportunistic cheaters than plan to cheaters.

True but it doesn’t settle any of my issues

The idea that a girlfriend or wife could download tinder and have a different penis in her mouth weekly with no risk of getting caught

Right I’m not blowing smoke up my arse but if I wanted to I could clean up on sites like this. I could have a cock in the mouth, and be skiing with a pair of cocks in each hand IF I wanted to.

If I had a boyfriend, thinking of getting cock from elsewhere would be the absolute last thing on my mind.

I don’t think women really want to have lots of different men, even on here a lot of the single women would be more than happy just having the one regular guy over loads of one offs.

"

Skiing with a pair of cocks in each hand….wow what a classic line lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because it’s way easier for them to cheat

than it is for me

I was about to get on the defensive then but you’re actually right. IT IS easier for a woman to cheat. I reckon any woman regardless of looks could go out and get extra marital sex with no issue at all but would be harder for the man.

That being said I think women are less likely to cheat just to get some extra sex cos their fella would be more than happy to provide it. Also think women need more of an emotional connection and would need to know the person a fair bit in order for them to cheat.

Think guys are more opportunistic cheaters than plan to cheaters.

True but it doesn’t settle any of my issues

The idea that a girlfriend or wife could download tinder and have a different penis in her mouth weekly with no risk of getting caught

Right I’m not blowing smoke up my arse but if I wanted to I could clean up on sites like this. I could have a cock in the mouth, and be skiing with a pair of cocks in each hand IF I wanted to.

If I had a boyfriend, thinking of getting cock from elsewhere would be the absolute last thing on my mind.

I don’t think women really want to have lots of different men, even on here a lot of the single women would be more than happy just having the one regular guy over loads of one offs.

On here, I think pretty much any woman could.

Men think women can get sex whenever/wherever so why wouldn't they?

Women think men wouldnt say no to sex so why would that change?

We just always think the worst of each other.

And yes I know not always some people are annoyingly loved up

"

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w

Backup has arrived

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Clean up on sites like this! Lolz I'm sure most blokes would get bored to death waiting for you to get ur make up on!

"

Wears rubber boobs and womens clothing and no doubt a fuck tonne more make up than I’d ever wear yet has a dig at me. Okay then. Also my entire face is tattooed with make up so takes me no time at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Why do I get the shitty remarks when I was responding to someone who attacked me first with their comment?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do I get the shitty remarks when I was responding to someone who attacked me first with their comment? "

Because all the arseholes are out today...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do I get the shitty remarks when I was responding to someone who attacked me first with their comment?

Because all the arseholes are out today..."

It says nothing about you, and everything about them.

Don’t let them take up any space in your head.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense? What if you become a couple and move into her home? "

Women ghost me both here and on Dating apps, but it only happens after I tell them what I do for a living (I'm a trainee again after a career change) What does that say. There's too much desire for black and white when life just isn't like that. Some men some women blah blah.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman  over a year ago

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"Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense? What if you become a couple and move into her home?

Women ghost me both here and on Dating apps, but it only happens after I tell them what I do for a living (I'm a trainee again after a career change) What does that say. There's too much desire for black and white when life just isn't like that. Some men some women blah blah."

You think they block you specifically because you a trainee?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense? What if you become a couple and move into her home?

Women ghost me both here and on Dating apps, but it only happens after I tell them what I do for a living (I'm a trainee again after a career change) What does that say. There's too much desire for black and white when life just isn't like that. Some men some women blah blah.

You think they block you specifically because you a trainee?"

Not block, ghost. Conversation is going swimmingly until what you do for a living comes up, then poof, gone. Honestly not complaining, dodged a bullet I think.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman  over a year ago

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"Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense? What if you become a couple and move into her home?

Women ghost me both here and on Dating apps, but it only happens after I tell them what I do for a living (I'm a trainee again after a career change) What does that say. There's too much desire for black and white when life just isn't like that. Some men some women blah blah.

You think they block you specifically because you a trainee?

Not block, ghost. Conversation is going swimmingly until what you do for a living comes up, then poof, gone. Honestly not complaining, dodged a bullet I think."

I just don't understand why what someone does for a living would make a jot of difference on fab. Very weird.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense? What if you become a couple and move into her home?

Women ghost me both here and on Dating apps, but it only happens after I tell them what I do for a living (I'm a trainee again after a career change) What does that say. There's too much desire for black and white when life just isn't like that. Some men some women blah blah.

You think they block you specifically because you a trainee?

Not block, ghost. Conversation is going swimmingly until what you do for a living comes up, then poof, gone. Honestly not complaining, dodged a bullet I think.

I just don't understand why what someone does for a living would make a jot of difference on fab. Very weird."

Indeed, they probably use the term professional to describe themselves.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense? What if you become a couple and move into her home?

Women ghost me both here and on Dating apps, but it only happens after I tell them what I do for a living (I'm a trainee again after a career change) What does that say. There's too much desire for black and white when life just isn't like that. Some men some women blah blah.

You think they block you specifically because you a trainee?

Not block, ghost. Conversation is going swimmingly until what you do for a living comes up, then poof, gone. Honestly not complaining, dodged a bullet I think.

I just don't understand why what someone does for a living would make a jot of difference on fab. Very weird.

Indeed, they probably use the term professional to describe themselves."

Spin it a different way then. Say I used to be xxxx but even though it paid really well it didn’t make me happy, luckily I’m in a position where I can afford to change caterers and now I’m training to be xxxx instead. Then keep your beady little eye on her to make sure she’s into you for you not your wedge.

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By *ilverjagMan  over a year ago

swansea


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew. "

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk. "

It's very habit forming

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip

I (Luke) had a lot and married somebody who had nothing, thinking she was a decent person. She turned out to be a horrible person and in the divorce has taken more than half of everything I had. That has made me very cynical about marriage and is an important reason I'll never do it again.

I am in no way an incel. I think that movement is disturbing. I do not feel entitled to sex. The reason I am in a good sexual relationship now is because I'm a decent human being.

As for your point about women, I don't see any reason why a woman shouldn't have the same attitude towards marriage. If a woman has a lot and wants to protect it by not getting married, I wouldn't blame her at all.

I would only add that it's probably a less common scenario because for a long time men have earned more than women, and if children are involved then divorce more commonly favours the woman financially because she is more likely to look after the children. I'm not saying that is wrong, just that it's a common situation, so it's a question fewer women have to decide on than men. That's not a justification. It's just an observation about society.

There will certainly be plenty of exceptions. If a woman doesn't want to get married for the same reasons I don't, then all strength to her.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

King's Crustacean

Q Luke.....

Why cynicism of marriage rather than of the law or of people who don't guard their assets via a pre nup or similar?

Idle curiosity. ?

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER. "

Was about to come and say the same. Children first whatever the circumstances, it really isn't that difficult a concept.

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By *andsome HandMan  over a year ago

roundabout

I'm not suspicious of women, more shifty looking people in general.

P.s OP Annie Wilkes was a great username. Always made me wonder if you had a sledge stashed somewhere you dirty birdy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER. "

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER. "

I accept that, but in a divorce the money doesn't go to the children, it goes to the parent.

Allow me to reword my statement. Divorce favours the side with children, which is more commonly not the man's side, so the man more commonly end up with a smaller proportion of the assets.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser."

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w

Even if the rule is to favour the children, it doesn’t mean there aren’t biases

Women receive significantly shorter sentences in court for the same crime. It’s meant to be equal, but biases exist

I’d imagine the same biases exist in many different areas of the law too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work. "

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

I accept that, but in a divorce the money doesn't go to the children, it goes to the parent.

Allow me to reword my statement. Divorce favours the side with children, which is more commonly not the man's side, so the man more commonly end up with a smaller proportion of the assets. "

But surely in that case the 'assets' aren't just the woman's. They are split with the kids too.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good."

We were told the same. It did cost us a small fortune but it was the best money we've ever spent. If the mother played ball how did you loose? Sorry might be missing something here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

We were told the same. It did cost us a small fortune but it was the best money we've ever spent. If the mother played ball how did you loose? Sorry might be missing something here. "

I was preparing myself for what may have been, I didn't know how she was going to react, I just knew that she was capable of making life difficult. After a couple of months and a little less emotion, we managed to remain civil. The courts are a problem but the real problem is those that try to weaponise their kids, selfishness masquerading as love.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm suspicious of men periodically when several of them have lied about being involved with someone else. Suspicious when men chat just so they can get some sexting I'd see more pics. That's happened of late so I'm in the mode.

Generally there are lots of great things about men and I like them "

I agree with all this! X

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

We were told the same. It did cost us a small fortune but it was the best money we've ever spent. If the mother played ball how did you loose? Sorry might be missing something here.

I was preparing myself for what may have been, I didn't know how she was going to react, I just knew that she was capable of making life difficult. After a couple of months and a little less emotion, we managed to remain civil. The courts are a problem but the real problem is those that try to weaponise their kids, selfishness masquerading as love."

Oh god yes I agree with you there. That's what Ms ex did essentially because he had a new partner. We decided that that wasn't on, she lied big time to cafcass to try and prevent M having access. So I do understand where you are coming from. She did everything she possibly could to get the court to agree with her. In the end she failed it did cost us a lot i won't lie and we were told not to bother by many. But we felt it was worth it and it has been.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good."

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations. "

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

We were told the same. It did cost us a small fortune but it was the best money we've ever spent. If the mother played ball how did you loose? Sorry might be missing something here.

I was preparing myself for what may have been, I didn't know how she was going to react, I just knew that she was capable of making life difficult. After a couple of months and a little less emotion, we managed to remain civil. The courts are a problem but the real problem is those that try to weaponise their kids, selfishness masquerading as love.

Oh god yes I agree with you there. That's what Ms ex did essentially because he had a new partner. We decided that that wasn't on, she lied big time to cafcass to try and prevent M having access. So I do understand where you are coming from. She did everything she possibly could to get the court to agree with her. In the end she failed it did cost us a lot i won't lie and we were told not to bother by many. But we felt it was worth it and it has been. "

That's brilliant that it worked out. I was told there's more of an effort to even things up nowadays but like a lot of institutions it'll take time.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much."

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

We were told the same. It did cost us a small fortune but it was the best money we've ever spent. If the mother played ball how did you loose? Sorry might be missing something here.

I was preparing myself for what may have been, I didn't know how she was going to react, I just knew that she was capable of making life difficult. After a couple of months and a little less emotion, we managed to remain civil. The courts are a problem but the real problem is those that try to weaponise their kids, selfishness masquerading as love.

Oh god yes I agree with you there. That's what Ms ex did essentially because he had a new partner. We decided that that wasn't on, she lied big time to cafcass to try and prevent M having access. So I do understand where you are coming from. She did everything she possibly could to get the court to agree with her. In the end she failed it did cost us a lot i won't lie and we were told not to bother by many. But we felt it was worth it and it has been.

That's brilliant that it worked out. I was told there's more of an effort to even things up nowadays but like a lot of institutions it'll take time."

It was hard I won't lie and cost a lot. And we were absolutely petrified on court day, because of being told the court would take her side. We did put a strong case together and over prepared. But we did it so it is possible, I think the more men do go to court the more normal it will become. And hopefully stop selfish women using kids as weapons.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed. "

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What about women, what about men, women do this men do that...blah, blah, blah, blah...these type of posts are sexist from all sides...

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By *ustBoWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I am not suspicious of men any more than I am of women. I can see through most of the bull shit people sprout and can see those who are genuine.

I've lived with a guy for years who basically sponged off me and I was an idiot for allowing it to happen but I did and I learnt a valuable lesson to never allow anyone to do that again .I have no interest in what anyone owns or how much money they make as long as they can pay their own way then I'm happy. Just as I will pay my own way. I find someone boasting constantly about how much money they have or what they own a major turn off. I don't need their money I'm happy out pottering along as I am. Now I wouldn't say no to a lotto win but that's another story.

Both genders are equally capable of manipulating others to get what they want and if you ignore red flags and allow yourself to be manipulated then that's on you. Like I said I did for years and it's my fault for not copping on and letting my heart rule my head.Now I take everyone as an individual and if I think some are playing me then away with them My life is a lot easier and a hell of a lot more drama as well.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk. "

Referring to women as arm candy

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly."

On what grounds were you applying for full custody then and not just access with staying contact? Agree it’s a different beast when you’re talking about applying for full custody of the child. But again it’s looked at in a way that limits the disruption to that child.

A father who wants to apply for full custody of the child I’m assuming would be doing so over concerns of the welfare of their children or the mothers inability to be an appropriate safeguard and caregiver. Otherwise why not just go for access and staying contact? Your case is looked at your working hours, the child’s schooling and then it’s decided how many nights you can have your children. Normally the father says well I could have them this day/night and this day/night and then it’s awarded.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly.

On what grounds were you applying for full custody then and not just access with staying contact? Agree it’s a different beast when you’re talking about applying for full custody of the child. But again it’s looked at in a way that limits the disruption to that child.

A father who wants to apply for full custody of the child I’m assuming would be doing so over concerns of the welfare of their children or the mothers inability to be an appropriate safeguard and caregiver. Otherwise why not just go for access and staying contact? Your case is looked at your working hours, the child’s schooling and then it’s decided how many nights you can have your children. Normally the father says well I could have them this day/night and this day/night and then it’s awarded. "

I was preparing myself for the worst, I was a stay at home dad and did almost everything, I was acutely aware of how things could've gone if she chose to be an arse about it. Thankfully after the dust settled and emotions were less raw, her screw me attitude was replaced by a more positive one. I was merely being cautious at the beginning.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly.

On what grounds were you applying for full custody then and not just access with staying contact? Agree it’s a different beast when you’re talking about applying for full custody of the child. But again it’s looked at in a way that limits the disruption to that child.

A father who wants to apply for full custody of the child I’m assuming would be doing so over concerns of the welfare of their children or the mothers inability to be an appropriate safeguard and caregiver. Otherwise why not just go for access and staying contact? Your case is looked at your working hours, the child’s schooling and then it’s decided how many nights you can have your children. Normally the father says well I could have them this day/night and this day/night and then it’s awarded.

I was preparing myself for the worst, I was a stay at home dad and did almost everything, I was acutely aware of how things could've gone if she chose to be an arse about it. Thankfully after the dust settled and emotions were less raw, her screw me attitude was replaced by a more positive one. I was merely being cautious at the beginning."

I still don’t understand the grounds to apply for full custody though. If you were a stay at home Dad living in the same household whilst she went out to work, who left the home when you split?

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By *inda May SimmonsTV/TS  over a year ago

hexham


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk.

Referring to women as arm candy "

“Lurve” can be twice the expense for half the fun?

I take it “lurve” means love !

So love can be twice the expense for half the fun?

I didn’t know love had a monetary value or limitations on fun. Is this to say that as you get older love becomes more expensive?

I don’t get it.

In all of my loving relationships the love grows stronger the more I share and give with the person I love. The pay back for me is in seeing the person I love appearing more happy because I am sharing in that persons life … I think

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By *esparate danMan  over a year ago

glasgow


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

I accept that, but in a divorce the money doesn't go to the children, it goes to the parent.

Allow me to reword my statement. Divorce favours the side with children, which is more commonly not the man's side, so the man more commonly end up with a smaller proportion of the assets. "

... but more time to pursue his other interests than the mother

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk. "

Why is it that I knew exactly which contributor had posted it, before scrolling up to confirm?

I believe the Order of the Benedictine monks are recruiting

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By *hebritukCouple  over a year ago

London


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk.

Why is it that I knew exactly which contributor had posted it, before scrolling up to confirm?

I believe the Order of the Benedictine monks are recruiting "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can’t stand the view that some guys think women are after money they don’t even have in the first place and use that as reasons not to enter into a relationship.

Use logic. Look at the info available. They meet a woman who has a house a job and a car, but someone that woman wants your house and money, how does that make sense? What if you become a couple and move into her home?

Women ghost me both here and on Dating apps, but it only happens after I tell them what I do for a living (I'm a trainee again after a career change) What does that say. There's too much desire for black and white when life just isn't like that. Some men some women blah blah.

You think they block you specifically because you a trainee?

Not block, ghost. Conversation is going swimmingly until what you do for a living comes up, then poof, gone. Honestly not complaining, dodged a bullet I think.

I just don't understand why what someone does for a living would make a jot of difference on fab. Very weird.

Indeed, they probably use the term professional to describe themselves.

Spin it a different way then. Say I used to be xxxx but even though it paid really well it didn’t make me happy, luckily I’m in a position where I can afford to change caterers and now I’m training to be xxxx instead. Then keep your beady little eye on her to make sure she’s into you for you not your wedge. "

I've only just noticed this

May be I should do that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly.

On what grounds were you applying for full custody then and not just access with staying contact? Agree it’s a different beast when you’re talking about applying for full custody of the child. But again it’s looked at in a way that limits the disruption to that child.

A father who wants to apply for full custody of the child I’m assuming would be doing so over concerns of the welfare of their children or the mothers inability to be an appropriate safeguard and caregiver. Otherwise why not just go for access and staying contact? Your case is looked at your working hours, the child’s schooling and then it’s decided how many nights you can have your children. Normally the father says well I could have them this day/night and this day/night and then it’s awarded.

I was preparing myself for the worst, I was a stay at home dad and did almost everything, I was acutely aware of how things could've gone if she chose to be an arse about it. Thankfully after the dust settled and emotions were less raw, her screw me attitude was replaced by a more positive one. I was merely being cautious at the beginning.

I still don’t understand the grounds to apply for full custody though. If you were a stay at home Dad living in the same household whilst she went out to work, who left the home when you split? "

When we first split, she, understandably, was upset and saying some pretty outrageous things. I looked into it because I was scared I'd lose everything. Like I said, I was preparing myself for the worse.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly.

On what grounds were you applying for full custody then and not just access with staying contact? Agree it’s a different beast when you’re talking about applying for full custody of the child. But again it’s looked at in a way that limits the disruption to that child.

A father who wants to apply for full custody of the child I’m assuming would be doing so over concerns of the welfare of their children or the mothers inability to be an appropriate safeguard and caregiver. Otherwise why not just go for access and staying contact? Your case is looked at your working hours, the child’s schooling and then it’s decided how many nights you can have your children. Normally the father says well I could have them this day/night and this day/night and then it’s awarded.

I was preparing myself for the worst, I was a stay at home dad and did almost everything, I was acutely aware of how things could've gone if she chose to be an arse about it. Thankfully after the dust settled and emotions were less raw, her screw me attitude was replaced by a more positive one. I was merely being cautious at the beginning.

I still don’t understand the grounds to apply for full custody though. If you were a stay at home Dad living in the same household whilst she went out to work, who left the home when you split?

When we first split, she, understandably, was upset and saying some pretty outrageous things. I looked into it because I was scared I'd lose everything. Like I said, I was preparing myself for the worse."

Still don’t understand the grounds in which you’d apply for full custody of the children. What were the circumstances. Did you leave the family home, did she? Doesn’t make sense why you’d apply for full custody (taking the children to live with you) and not just access to them with staying contact.

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By *eyond PurityCouple  over a year ago

Lincolnshire

I haven't read your previous thread, OP, and going on the thread title alone, I'd say there are two scenarios - suspicion with cause, and suspicion without cause.

The former happens when untruths are told, or attempts at mis-selling. Sometimes there are red flags, sometimes you can't quite put your finger on it, it just doesn't feel quite right.

Then there's the whole distrusting of anyone and everyone because you've been hurt in past. It's a futile way to protect oneself, as it just shows you've not really learned lessons from before, or healed properly yet. Small steps. No leap of faith will work in this situation.

C

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly.

On what grounds were you applying for full custody then and not just access with staying contact? Agree it’s a different beast when you’re talking about applying for full custody of the child. But again it’s looked at in a way that limits the disruption to that child.

A father who wants to apply for full custody of the child I’m assuming would be doing so over concerns of the welfare of their children or the mothers inability to be an appropriate safeguard and caregiver. Otherwise why not just go for access and staying contact? Your case is looked at your working hours, the child’s schooling and then it’s decided how many nights you can have your children. Normally the father says well I could have them this day/night and this day/night and then it’s awarded.

I was preparing myself for the worst, I was a stay at home dad and did almost everything, I was acutely aware of how things could've gone if she chose to be an arse about it. Thankfully after the dust settled and emotions were less raw, her screw me attitude was replaced by a more positive one. I was merely being cautious at the beginning.

I still don’t understand the grounds to apply for full custody though. If you were a stay at home Dad living in the same household whilst she went out to work, who left the home when you split?

When we first split, she, understandably, was upset and saying some pretty outrageous things. I looked into it because I was scared I'd lose everything. Like I said, I was preparing myself for the worse.

Still don’t understand the grounds in which you’d apply for full custody of the children. What were the circumstances. Did you leave the family home, did she? Doesn’t make sense why you’d apply for full custody (taking the children to live with you) and not just access to them with staying contact. "

I didn't apply, I looked into all eventualities including consulting a solicitor about all the possible scenarios.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames

Some people are suspicious by nature. Others aren’t. Some become suspicious over time, scarred by life experiences.

But to state as fact that genders are suspicious of each other is a massive overstretch.

I trust most people. I mistrust some people, some of whom are male, some of whom are female. If I don’t trust a person is has nothing to do with their gender, it is down to their actions.

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By *ilverjagMan  over a year ago

swansea

Good thread this, not sure if it's a sequel to, "War and Peace," or whether it's reminding me of the song from the Michael Caine film, "The Italian Job," "This is the self preservation society" but I think that we should take out a copyright on it before script writers get hold of it, and put the contents into a soap opera. The fact that it originated on a swingers website might mean that you could have Eastenders and Table Enders all in the one show.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly.

On what grounds were you applying for full custody then and not just access with staying contact? Agree it’s a different beast when you’re talking about applying for full custody of the child. But again it’s looked at in a way that limits the disruption to that child.

A father who wants to apply for full custody of the child I’m assuming would be doing so over concerns of the welfare of their children or the mothers inability to be an appropriate safeguard and caregiver. Otherwise why not just go for access and staying contact? Your case is looked at your working hours, the child’s schooling and then it’s decided how many nights you can have your children. Normally the father says well I could have them this day/night and this day/night and then it’s awarded.

I was preparing myself for the worst, I was a stay at home dad and did almost everything, I was acutely aware of how things could've gone if she chose to be an arse about it. Thankfully after the dust settled and emotions were less raw, her screw me attitude was replaced by a more positive one. I was merely being cautious at the beginning.

I still don’t understand the grounds to apply for full custody though. If you were a stay at home Dad living in the same household whilst she went out to work, who left the home when you split?

When we first split, she, understandably, was upset and saying some pretty outrageous things. I looked into it because I was scared I'd lose everything. Like I said, I was preparing myself for the worse.

Still don’t understand the grounds in which you’d apply for full custody of the children. What were the circumstances. Did you leave the family home, did she? Doesn’t make sense why you’d apply for full custody (taking the children to live with you) and not just access to them with staying contact.

I didn't apply, I looked into all eventualities including consulting a solicitor about all the possible scenarios. "

So essentially you’re moaning about something that hasn’t even affected you and just making up stats for the sake of it?

It is rare for children to be taken from the care of their mothers and placed with the other parent or even a grandparent but you’re making it out as if women have the say in court whether fathers see their children at all which simply isn’t true. Access is usually granted in all circumstances and it’s rare for no access at all to be awarded.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser.

Untrue M went to court to establish a routine for his child. As the mother was refusing access or there was no structure to it. His ex is neither of those things we won. Because we wanted a structured routine with as much access as possible and showed how it would work.

It is true unfortunately, I spent a small fortune looking into it, your partner had an obstructive mother, if a mum plays ball and isn't an arse about it they will, in almost all cases, side with the mother. I was told to not waste my money and work it out. Thankfully my ex has been infinitely better about it than I thought and it's good.

They do what’s in the best interest of the child. The judges themselves don’t even make decisions it goes to social services and CAFCAS to conduct a report and the court usually goes off their recommendations.

So 85% of fathers aren't competent then. Even solicitors will tell you so much.

I dunno where you get your stats from. I don’t believe that 85% of men that request a contact order are denied it. I just don’t.

Knowing what I know, knowing the type of people who have been granted access to their children though the courts who clearly should not have. I worked in the prison service for years. The amount of men in there that have committed violent crimes towards their ex partners and children AFTER being granted contact through court always made me shake my head in disbelief. That’s without counting the sex offenders. Literally mothers begging the courts not to allow contact because they fear something is going to happen to their children and they’re ignored or not believed. Then it’s too late. Then the fathers came to me. In prison leaving a string of damaged children. So no. I don’t think 85% of fathers are denied access through the courts. Only extreme extreme cases would a father not be allowed.

It would appear we're talking about different things. I'm talking about custody not access rights, the guide lines for them are way to open to abuse by the people you refer to. My bad possibly.

On what grounds were you applying for full custody then and not just access with staying contact? Agree it’s a different beast when you’re talking about applying for full custody of the child. But again it’s looked at in a way that limits the disruption to that child.

A father who wants to apply for full custody of the child I’m assuming would be doing so over concerns of the welfare of their children or the mothers inability to be an appropriate safeguard and caregiver. Otherwise why not just go for access and staying contact? Your case is looked at your working hours, the child’s schooling and then it’s decided how many nights you can have your children. Normally the father says well I could have them this day/night and this day/night and then it’s awarded.

I was preparing myself for the worst, I was a stay at home dad and did almost everything, I was acutely aware of how things could've gone if she chose to be an arse about it. Thankfully after the dust settled and emotions were less raw, her screw me attitude was replaced by a more positive one. I was merely being cautious at the beginning.

I still don’t understand the grounds to apply for full custody though. If you were a stay at home Dad living in the same household whilst she went out to work, who left the home when you split?

When we first split, she, understandably, was upset and saying some pretty outrageous things. I looked into it because I was scared I'd lose everything. Like I said, I was preparing myself for the worse.

Still don’t understand the grounds in which you’d apply for full custody of the children. What were the circumstances. Did you leave the family home, did she? Doesn’t make sense why you’d apply for full custody (taking the children to live with you) and not just access to them with staying contact.

I didn't apply, I looked into all eventualities including consulting a solicitor about all the possible scenarios.

So essentially you’re moaning about something that hasn’t even affected you and just making up stats for the sake of it?

It is rare for children to be taken from the care of their mothers and placed with the other parent or even a grandparent but you’re making it out as if women have the say in court whether fathers see their children at all which simply isn’t true. Access is usually granted in all circumstances and it’s rare for no access at all to be awarded. "

Oh I see, you just wanted to take a pop. The stats are there, not made up. I'll bid you good day

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

I accept that, but in a divorce the money doesn't go to the children, it goes to the parent.

Allow me to reword my statement. Divorce favours the side with children, which is more commonly not the man's side, so the man more commonly end up with a smaller proportion of the assets.

But surely in that case the 'assets' aren't just the woman's. They are split with the kids too. "

That's why I rephrased it to "the side with the children" and specifically moved away from saying an individual. In that situation, the man has more to lose financially than the woman I would say in most cases but certainly not all.

I responded to the OP's comment about a man protecting his material assets by avoiding relationships. I can understand that and would respect anybody's choice to do that, man or woman.

What I do object to is the OP's suggestion that a man not going into a relationship because he is worried about losing a massive chunk of his assets has got anything to do with being an incel. I don't think the two are closely related at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Don’t want to take a pop it just pissed me off massively when guys spout the bull shit that courts favour the mother when it comes to having access to their children. I was trying to show that they don’t do that at all. You then changed the narrative to going for full custody which is completely different to being able to see and have your children 2 or 3 times a week. It’s completely removing them from their home, possibly school and having them live with the other parent /caregiver which is a huge disruption to their routine.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w


"Don’t want to take a pop it just pissed me off massively when guys spout the bull shit that courts favour the mother when it comes to having access to their children. I was trying to show that they don’t do that at all. You then changed the narrative to going for full custody which is completely different to being able to see and have your children 2 or 3 times a week. It’s completely removing them from their home, possibly school and having them live with the other parent /caregiver which is a huge disruption to their routine. "

Could you maybe agree there’s a bias?

Like equal pay is the law, but there’s a wage gap

Biases exist

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

I accept that, but in a divorce the money doesn't go to the children, it goes to the parent.

Allow me to reword my statement. Divorce favours the side with children, which is more commonly not the man's side, so the man more commonly end up with a smaller proportion of the assets.

But surely in that case the 'assets' aren't just the woman's. They are split with the kids too.

That's why I rephrased it to "the side with the children" and specifically moved away from saying an individual. In that situation, the man has more to lose financially than the woman I would say in most cases but certainly not all.

I responded to the OP's comment about a man protecting his material assets by avoiding relationships. I can understand that and would respect anybody's choice to do that, man or woman.

What I do object to is the OP's suggestion that a man not going into a relationship because he is worried about losing a massive chunk of his assets has got anything to do with being an incel. I don't think the two are closely related at all. "

Umm I’ve never suggested that it has anything to do with being an incel. I said men refusing to enter into a relationship for fear that women are out for what they can get from them financially is part of the MenGoingTheirOwnWay movement. Which in itself is completely different to being an incel although they are close cousins as *some* of their beliefs overlap.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Don’t want to take a pop it just pissed me off massively when guys spout the bull shit that courts favour the mother when it comes to having access to their children. I was trying to show that they don’t do that at all. You then changed the narrative to going for full custody which is completely different to being able to see and have your children 2 or 3 times a week. It’s completely removing them from their home, possibly school and having them live with the other parent /caregiver which is a huge disruption to their routine.

Could you maybe agree there’s a bias?

Like equal pay is the law, but there’s a wage gap

Biases exist "

Yeah but not in a court situation where it involves a father having access to his own children. They wouldn’t just listen to what the mother says and then go along with her wises.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w


"Don’t want to take a pop it just pissed me off massively when guys spout the bull shit that courts favour the mother when it comes to having access to their children. I was trying to show that they don’t do that at all. You then changed the narrative to going for full custody which is completely different to being able to see and have your children 2 or 3 times a week. It’s completely removing them from their home, possibly school and having them live with the other parent /caregiver which is a huge disruption to their routine.

Could you maybe agree there’s a bias?

Like equal pay is the law, but there’s a wage gap

Biases exist

Yeah but not in a court situation where it involves a father having access to his own children. They wouldn’t just listen to what the mother says and then go along with her wises. "

But you agree bias exist?

There’s studies they exist in court. Why not this court?

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By *TJxComboMan  over a year ago

birmingham

At the end of the day the test of time will tell all

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

I accept that, but in a divorce the money doesn't go to the children, it goes to the parent.

Allow me to reword my statement. Divorce favours the side with children, which is more commonly not the man's side, so the man more commonly end up with a smaller proportion of the assets.

But surely in that case the 'assets' aren't just the woman's. They are split with the kids too.

That's why I rephrased it to "the side with the children" and specifically moved away from saying an individual. In that situation, the man has more to lose financially than the woman I would say in most cases but certainly not all.

I responded to the OP's comment about a man protecting his material assets by avoiding relationships. I can understand that and would respect anybody's choice to do that, man or woman.

What I do object to is the OP's suggestion that a man not going into a relationship because he is worried about losing a massive chunk of his assets has got anything to do with being an incel. I don't think the two are closely related at all.

Umm I’ve never suggested that it has anything to do with being an incel. I said men refusing to enter into a relationship for fear that women are out for what they can get from them financially is part of the MenGoingTheirOwnWay movement. Which in itself is completely different to being an incel although they are close cousins as *some* of their beliefs overlap. "

You used the term "code cousins" to link men protecting their assets with incels. It's what you wrote. I'm not quite sure how I'm not supposed to think you were saying the two are connected.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk.

Why is it that I knew exactly which contributor had posted it, before scrolling up to confirm?

I believe the Order of the Benedictine monks are recruiting "

I could guess who it was as well

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

I accept that, but in a divorce the money doesn't go to the children, it goes to the parent.

Allow me to reword my statement. Divorce favours the side with children, which is more commonly not the man's side, so the man more commonly end up with a smaller proportion of the assets.

But surely in that case the 'assets' aren't just the woman's. They are split with the kids too.

That's why I rephrased it to "the side with the children" and specifically moved away from saying an individual. In that situation, the man has more to lose financially than the woman I would say in most cases but certainly not all.

I responded to the OP's comment about a man protecting his material assets by avoiding relationships. I can understand that and would respect anybody's choice to do that, man or woman.

What I do object to is the OP's suggestion that a man not going into a relationship because he is worried about losing a massive chunk of his assets has got anything to do with being an incel. I don't think the two are closely related at all.

Umm I’ve never suggested that it has anything to do with being an incel. I said men refusing to enter into a relationship for fear that women are out for what they can get from them financially is part of the MenGoingTheirOwnWay movement. Which in itself is completely different to being an incel although they are close cousins as *some* of their beliefs overlap.

You used the term "code cousins" to link men protecting their assets with incels. It's what you wrote. I'm not quite sure how I'm not supposed to think you were saying the two are connected. "

I meant close cousins not code cousins. I’ve explained why I believe the MGTOW movement and incels are quite closely linked. I’m on 4chan, Reddit. I’m on the hunting the mammoth forum. I’m pretty familiar with the beliefs of the two and I’m confident in saying MGTOW and incels share some of the same beliefs.

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By *eavenscentitCouple  over a year ago

barnstaple


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

It's not a notion, it's a simple fact. Women will win 85% of the time, the 15% that lose are addicts, abusers or with an abuser."

In divorce nobody wins

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By *hancer666Man  over a year ago

Redbourn


"Wish people would stop buying into this notion that the courts favour the women. They favour the child not specifically the woman.

Louder for the people at the back.

COURTS FAVOUR THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER.

I accept that, but in a divorce the money doesn't go to the children, it goes to the parent.

Allow me to reword my statement. Divorce favours the side with children, which is more commonly not the man's side, so the man more commonly end up with a smaller proportion of the assets.

But surely in that case the 'assets' aren't just the woman's. They are split with the kids too.

That's why I rephrased it to "the side with the children" and specifically moved away from saying an individual. In that situation, the man has more to lose financially than the woman I would say in most cases but certainly not all.

I responded to the OP's comment about a man protecting his material assets by avoiding relationships. I can understand that and would respect anybody's choice to do that, man or woman.

What I do object to is the OP's suggestion that a man not going into a relationship because he is worried about losing a massive chunk of his assets has got anything to do with being an incel. I don't think the two are closely related at all.

Umm I’ve never suggested that it has anything to do with being an incel. I said men refusing to enter into a relationship for fear that women are out for what they can get from them financially is part of the MenGoingTheirOwnWay movement. Which in itself is completely different to being an incel although they are close cousins as *some* of their beliefs overlap.

You used the term "code cousins" to link men protecting their assets with incels. It's what you wrote. I'm not quite sure how I'm not supposed to think you were saying the two are connected.

I meant close cousins not code cousins. I’ve explained why I believe the MGTOW movement and incels are quite closely linked. I’m on 4chan, Reddit. I’m on the hunting the mammoth forum. I’m pretty familiar with the beliefs of the two and I’m confident in saying MGTOW and incels share some of the same beliefs. "

Im confident (heard from reliable source) the Benedicktine Monks are being disbanded for choosing to dedicate their lives to themeselves, living in self congratulatory contemplation. Their final act will be to stap on suicide vests, wrap themselves around this conversation thread, as it had no signs of slowing down,while not actually going anywhere.... stoll to an undisclosed location and kaboom....this rent-a-showcaseegohavetohavelastword is no more

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip

OP, what exactly do you think is wrong with a man choosing not to get married because he doesn't want to risk getting into the situation in which he has to give away half of everything he owns? Why is that wrong?

As stated earlier, this is a situation a woman can also find herself in and decision she chooses as well. Do you have a problem with that? It appears you only have a problem with it if it's a man doing it because your criticism in your original post only mentions men.

I'm really confused by what point you are trying to make. You say there is an overlap with incel beliefs but you earlier denied you are making a connection between the two. I just don't know what you are trying to say. It seems to be at least partly contradictory.

So take my situation. I got divorced from a greedy, selfish, money-grabbing nut-job who throughout the marriage abused me financially by chronic overspending pushing us close to bankruptcy, and she relished it. In our divorce she refused to negotiate and racked up tens of thousands of pounds of legal fees which I now have to pay because she doesn't have any savings and I do. That money could have helped the children, but she made sure as much money as possible went down the drain because she got off on wasting money because she knows it drives me insane. I am never ever going to allow myself to even vaguely risk being in that situation again.

In your original post, you say a man who protects his assets in that way is MGTOW. You didn't say "might be" or "sometimes is". You said "is". Then you say that is a close cousin of the incel movement. You draw a direct line between my plans to protect myself and the incel movement. I object to that. I am demonstrably not an incel. Just saying there is an overlap of some ideas doesn't remove the fact that you drew the line.

You clearly think there is a connection because you said that my attitude is a close cousin of incel ideas. Maybe you expressed yourself badly, I don't know. But you drew that line and I think you a wrong to have written that. If you are not making that connection in the way I'm reading, what exactly are you trying to say by bringing up incels as part of your train of thought?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"OP, what exactly do you think is wrong with a man choosing not to get married because he doesn't want to risk getting into the situation in which he has to give away half of everything he owns? Why is that wrong?

As stated earlier, this is a situation a woman can also find herself in and decision she chooses as well. Do you have a problem with that? It appears you only have a problem with it if it's a man doing it because your criticism in your original post only mentions men.

I'm really confused by what point you are trying to make. You say there is an overlap with incel beliefs but you earlier denied you are making a connection between the two. I just don't know what you are trying to say. It seems to be at least partly contradictory.

So take my situation. I got divorced from a greedy, selfish, money-grabbing nut-job who throughout the marriage abused me financially by chronic overspending pushing us close to bankruptcy, and she relished it. In our divorce she refused to negotiate and racked up tens of thousands of pounds of legal fees which I now have to pay because she doesn't have any savings and I do. That money could have helped the children, but she made sure as much money as possible went down the drain because she got off on wasting money because she knows it drives me insane. I am never ever going to allow myself to even vaguely risk being in that situation again.

In your original post, you say a man who protects his assets in that way is MGTOW. You didn't say "might be" or "sometimes is". You said "is". Then you say that is a close cousin of the incel movement. You draw a direct line between my plans to protect myself and the incel movement. I object to that. I am demonstrably not an incel. Just saying there is an overlap of some ideas doesn't remove the fact that you drew the line.

You clearly think there is a connection because you said that my attitude is a close cousin of incel ideas. Maybe you expressed yourself badly, I don't know. But you drew that line and I think you a wrong to have written that. If you are not making that connection in the way I'm reading, what exactly are you trying to say by bringing up incels as part of your train of thought? "

This is just a snippet from the MGTOW belief system.

Lack of incentive to get into relationships: women are attracted to guys who are taller than them, smarter than them, makes more money, funnier than them, stronger than them... Which leaves the guy with someone who is shorter, dumber, poorer, weaker... So women put in nothing on the table besides sex. So the guy has to risk losing half of his life’s savings, his kids, going to jail and ruining his career and on top of that put up with her mood swings and expensive demands just for sex (which she controls) when he can just choose to have one night stands or hire prostitutes. So if there's simply a more logical, cheaper and safer alternative, there's no logical reason for a guy to get into relationships.

If a guy is that paranoid about losing his stuff if he got married then get a prenup. Being boyfriend and girlfriend doesn’t entitle you to half their stuff so fear of a woman taking their money is a stupid excuse not to have a relationship.

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By *ilverjagMan  over a year ago

swansea


"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk.

Referring to women as arm candy

“Lurve” can be twice the expense for half the fun?

I take it “lurve” means love !

So love can be twice the expense for half the fun?

I didn’t know love had a monetary value or limitations on fun. Is this to say that as you get older love becomes more expensive?

I don’t get it.

In all of my loving relationships the love grows stronger the more I share and give with the person I love. The pay back for me is in seeing the person I love appearing more happy because I am sharing in that persons life … I think "

You sound just my ex wife, she was full of that kind of stuff, till one day when our business profits were down, when suddenly other words of wisdom came to my mind, "When poverty comes in the door, lurve flies out of the window!" Needless to say, say was made into history before getting into any other news headlines. So although I still enjoy the practice, it's kinda put me off the taste of wedding cake.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w


"OP, what exactly do you think is wrong with a man choosing not to get married because he doesn't want to risk getting into the situation in which he has to give away half of everything he owns? Why is that wrong?

As stated earlier, this is a situation a woman can also find herself in and decision she chooses as well. Do you have a problem with that? It appears you only have a problem with it if it's a man doing it because your criticism in your original post only mentions men.

I'm really confused by what point you are trying to make. You say there is an overlap with incel beliefs but you earlier denied you are making a connection between the two. I just don't know what you are trying to say. It seems to be at least partly contradictory.

So take my situation. I got divorced from a greedy, selfish, money-grabbing nut-job who throughout the marriage abused me financially by chronic overspending pushing us close to bankruptcy, and she relished it. In our divorce she refused to negotiate and racked up tens of thousands of pounds of legal fees which I now have to pay because she doesn't have any savings and I do. That money could have helped the children, but she made sure as much money as possible went down the drain because she got off on wasting money because she knows it drives me insane. I am never ever going to allow myself to even vaguely risk being in that situation again.

In your original post, you say a man who protects his assets in that way is MGTOW. You didn't say "might be" or "sometimes is". You said "is". Then you say that is a close cousin of the incel movement. You draw a direct line between my plans to protect myself and the incel movement. I object to that. I am demonstrably not an incel. Just saying there is an overlap of some ideas doesn't remove the fact that you drew the line.

You clearly think there is a connection because you said that my attitude is a close cousin of incel ideas. Maybe you expressed yourself badly, I don't know. But you drew that line and I think you a wrong to have written that. If you are not making that connection in the way I'm reading, what exactly are you trying to say by bringing up incels as part of your train of thought?

This is just a snippet from the MGTOW belief system.

Lack of incentive to get into relationships: women are attracted to guys who are taller than them, smarter than them, makes more money, funnier than them, stronger than them... Which leaves the guy with someone who is shorter, dumber, poorer, weaker... So women put in nothing on the table besides sex. So the guy has to risk losing half of his life’s savings, his kids, going to jail and ruining his career and on top of that put up with her mood swings and expensive demands just for sex (which she controls) when he can just choose to have one night stands or hire prostitutes. So if there's simply a more logical, cheaper and safer alternative, there's no logical reason for a guy to get into relationships.

If a guy is that paranoid about losing his stuff if he got married then get a prenup. Being boyfriend and girlfriend doesn’t entitle you to half their stuff so fear of a woman taking their money is a stupid excuse not to have a relationship. "

Is that thought pattern meant to be bad? Doesn’t seem that bad to me. Can’t get what they want out a relationship so they resort to 1 night stands or prostitution. Seems sensible

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By * Sophie xTV/TS  over a year ago

Derby


"

If a guy is that paranoid about losing his stuff if he got married then get a prenup. Being boyfriend and girlfriend doesn’t entitle you to half their stuff so fear of a woman taking their money is a stupid excuse not to have a relationship. "

A prenup is fine IF it is admissible in court and not overturned and IF copies of it are made and kept secure.

I've never been married so a prenup wasn't available to me, I did however enter into a mortgage with and ex partner who bought nothing financially to the table where I did so in my case a declaration of trust was drawn up with the solicitor the house was purchased through and all seemed well.

The relationship was a long arduous breakdown in which I suffered immensely but that's for another time.

What did happen around 3 years before I eventually escaped however is the solicitor who drew up the declaration of trust retired (he kept all copies as was the law at the time) and he posted them to my home address unbeknownst to me.

My ex got hold of them and destroyed them so that meant that everything that was in my favour that I had earned and built up before we met suddenly became 50/50.

However, it did not go 50/50....she cleared the house out of everything I owned, all she had paid for in the 12 years we were together were 2 sofas.

Technically when she left she would have needed to pay me £1000 plus left me my belongings, as it happened I had to pay her £16500 and accept that I now owned nothing after 23 years of working to pay my way through life.

I had paid every bill we ever had, bought her 2 cars, paid for all holidays, kept her 3 children as her ex husband never paid maintenance and also gave her money even though she also earned her own too, neither the house nor her children ever saw any of that.

I was beaten regularly, destroyed emotionally and almost 7 years later I know I can still react out of the ordinary to the things people do but I'm learning and getting better all the time.

Are all women like she was? Absolutely not but when you have reason to look deeply onto the differences in the way the law and help is biased towards women and in a lot of cases totally disregarded towards men then you can understand why men who have been through a lot can and will be cynical.

Yes I also understand that women go through abuse too but what we all need to understand is that there are no universal rules that say men or women are the abusers.

Thankfully there are some really good people out there of all genders and they're the ones we should all hope we are like and are a part of

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In my opinion gender issues will be a problem till end of times unless both parties seem to realise the problems they have on each end. Men have issues and women have issues. Not all men/women. I think until people keep going on Aboit the opposite gender there’ll always be problems. Just gotta love your life and be good.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I just don’t buy the whole argument of guys saying whaa she’s gonna take my house and car and everything else. It’s like mate my house is nicer than yours, my car is nicer than yours. Keep your shit and just give me your dick.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just don’t buy the whole argument of guys saying whaa she’s gonna take my house and car and everything else. It’s like mate my house is nicer than yours, my car is nicer than yours. Keep your shit and just give me your dick. "

In my opinion if both or one decides to leave then just leave and keep it at that. You keep your shit, I keep mine, but sadly the law etc is biased to one side, abd that’s just how it is. Surely if a giy with no house etc marries you and then leaves with half your stuff.. you’d be scared of that possibility.

But then again entering a relationship with the thought of them leaving isn’t the right mindset but that’s why prenups are there for safety. However bringing up a prenup with your partner is never a good convo.. they’d take it offensively..

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

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"I just don’t buy the whole argument of guys saying whaa she’s gonna take my house and car and everything else. It’s like mate my house is nicer than yours, my car is nicer than yours. Keep your shit and just give me your dick. "

So you just date poor people

Ask a millionaire how he feels about thaf

Ask Dr Dre who has to pay 300k a month in spousal support for potentially the rest of his life

Your anecdotal experience doesn’t dictate facts

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By *ilverjagMan  over a year ago

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"The older you get, the wiser you get, and despite having a compelling desire for arm candy, many of us become acutely aware that lurve can be twice the expense for half the fun.

Absolutely! So if your so rich and want to keep it, buy a hooker. But not like Prince Andrew.

I've never been in a knocking shop in my life, or handed over cash for sex, which is why the business ladies on here, whose line of business is not going attract grant funding, or an overdraft facility from a bank manager to fund an expansion programme, get nowhere fast with me. I'm a nice guy, and bear with me for repeating myself, one from the era when it was also hip for a guy to take a lady out who had gone to a bit of effort to look her best for the occasion, and not expect her to have a pocket calculator in her handbag to work out her share of the tab, I've taken flowers, chocolates, and champagne for the hostess at parties, even taken ladies whom I've struck up a friendship with, on holiday with me because, I always have to pay single room supplement anyway, and might as well ask someone I particularly like to join me. If I sat down and did the maths, it might work out cheaper to do, "Rent-a-pussy." The day that I can't seduce a woman with my natural charm and charisma, I'll give up and become a monk.

Why is it that I knew exactly which contributor had posted it, before scrolling up to confirm?

I believe the Order of the Benedictine monks are recruiting "

Think I'd prefer that order that vow to live on a diet of nothing but deep fried sliced potatoes. I believe that they are called the chip monk's, and their spiritual leader is fella called Alvin. At least you wouldn't starve.

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"OP, what exactly do you think is wrong with a man choosing not to get married because he doesn't want to risk getting into the situation in which he has to give away half of everything he owns? Why is that wrong?

As stated earlier, this is a situation a woman can also find herself in and decision she chooses as well. Do you have a problem with that? It appears you only have a problem with it if it's a man doing it because your criticism in your original post only mentions men.

I'm really confused by what point you are trying to make. You say there is an overlap with incel beliefs but you earlier denied you are making a connection between the two. I just don't know what you are trying to say. It seems to be at least partly contradictory.

So take my situation. I got divorced from a greedy, selfish, money-grabbing nut-job who throughout the marriage abused me financially by chronic overspending pushing us close to bankruptcy, and she relished it. In our divorce she refused to negotiate and racked up tens of thousands of pounds of legal fees which I now have to pay because she doesn't have any savings and I do. That money could have helped the children, but she made sure as much money as possible went down the drain because she got off on wasting money because she knows it drives me insane. I am never ever going to allow myself to even vaguely risk being in that situation again.

In your original post, you say a man who protects his assets in that way is MGTOW. You didn't say "might be" or "sometimes is". You said "is". Then you say that is a close cousin of the incel movement. You draw a direct line between my plans to protect myself and the incel movement. I object to that. I am demonstrably not an incel. Just saying there is an overlap of some ideas doesn't remove the fact that you drew the line.

You clearly think there is a connection because you said that my attitude is a close cousin of incel ideas. Maybe you expressed yourself badly, I don't know. But you drew that line and I think you a wrong to have written that. If you are not making that connection in the way I'm reading, what exactly are you trying to say by bringing up incels as part of your train of thought?

This is just a snippet from the MGTOW belief system.

Lack of incentive to get into relationships: women are attracted to guys who are taller than them, smarter than them, makes more money, funnier than them, stronger than them... Which leaves the guy with someone who is shorter, dumber, poorer, weaker... So women put in nothing on the table besides sex. So the guy has to risk losing half of his life’s savings, his kids, going to jail and ruining his career and on top of that put up with her mood swings and expensive demands just for sex (which she controls) when he can just choose to have one night stands or hire prostitutes. So if there's simply a more logical, cheaper and safer alternative, there's no logical reason for a guy to get into relationships.

If a guy is that paranoid about losing his stuff if he got married then get a prenup. Being boyfriend and girlfriend doesn’t entitle you to half their stuff so fear of a woman taking their money is a stupid excuse not to have a relationship. "

I'm really not surprised you get massive blowback on your threads sometimes. As far as I can tell you are saying that because I don't want to lose any more of my savings I am in some way related to being an incel. You haven't really explained how and you seem to argue at one point that you are not saying that. It's a deeply offensive and inflammatory thing to say and very wrong. I don't have any sympathy for you getting criticised on this one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP, your threads are always well entertaining. Merci, Mon Cherie!!

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