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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" No, you can't say without offending people. But..you could say it with punctuation? | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d No, you can't say without offending people. But..you could say it with punctuation? " | |||
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"Sexy is an attitude, not a shape I really don't think it is cool to body shame " Well said x | |||
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"it was on your way to MC d" McDonald's ? | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" Everyone has their own tastes and turn ons, and the two rules that should never be broken are:- 1)No body shaming 2)No kink shaming | |||
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"I think we can do without the opinions of Gary. " Agreed | |||
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"Green arrow " I remember Gary from before | |||
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"I think we can do without the opinions of Gary. " | |||
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"I wish I were 75-85 kg. I'm nearer 120kg and yes, I'm sexy and well fit " *goes to have a peep at Nanna's pics* I agree. You are indeed very sexy and we'll fit Nanna | |||
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"I wish I were 75-85 kg. I'm nearer 120kg and yes, I'm sexy and well fit *goes to have a peep at Nanna's pics* I agree. You are indeed very sexy and we'll fit Nanna " Why, thank you so much | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" Punctuation and grammar go a long way. I'm really struggling to work out what you are trying to say or imply. I'm 74yo 85kg. I would never describe myself as ugly or old, in my opinion I'm athletic because I spend a lot of time at the gym | |||
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"Gary was quite complimentary on a bbw thread. Has something happened? " Obviously didn't get any attention | |||
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"Green arrow " Oopsie | |||
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"Gary was quite complimentary on a bbw thread. Has something happened? " He’s had a knock back and spat his dummy | |||
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"I think we can do without the opinions of Gary. " What about the opinions of Frida? Frida says sexiness cannot be defined by one single parameter. | |||
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"I thought this was going to be a thread about words guys use to refer to a fit female . Boy was I wrong " This thread is way better | |||
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"I think we can do without the opinions of Gary. What about the opinions of Frida? Frida says sexiness cannot be defined by one single parameter. " Frida's opinions are very worthy | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" Make that 1 happy meal for the OP. Hold the happy. Eating it alone with an attitude like this too. | |||
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"I think we can do without the opinions of Gary. What about the opinions of Frida? Frida says sexiness cannot be defined by one single parameter. Frida's opinions are very worthy " I do believe they are, why pull others down to make yourself feel better? Because as far as I can see it never actually works | |||
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"I’m sexy and active and closer to 100kg " You can’t say that | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP " Also not a lady | |||
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"And yet 12 weeks ago you were on a thread about BBW and curvy ladies telling them how amazing they are! " Oh oh it’s not going to end well OP | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll …" Feed me instead lol | |||
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"Gary. Go to bed . " Proper snorted at that | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP " What's your go to Mc Burger? | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" Maccy D’s may be the reason people find me unattractive sure, but at least I can change that. | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP What's your go to Mc Burger? " Chicken just think of the protein I need to feed my heavy body | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP What's your go to Mc Burger? Chicken just think of the protein I need to feed my heavy body " Have you tried the new festive pie? | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP " Wow sexy definitely | |||
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"You're entitled to your opinion OP but you might have to work harder on that "make friends and influencing people" New Years Resolution Happy 2022 " | |||
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"Well fuck me I must be living a lie... I'm active, sexy (to some) and guess what definitely not 75/80kg I'm just gonna sit over here with my popcorn and watch the carnage " Budge up and share it with me | |||
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"Well fuck me I must be living a lie... I'm active, sexy (to some) and guess what definitely not 75/80kg I'm just gonna sit over here with my popcorn and watch the carnage Budge up and share it with me " Shall I bring cake too | |||
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"Well fuck me I must be living a lie... I'm active, sexy (to some) and guess what definitely not 75/80kg I'm just gonna sit over here with my popcorn and watch the carnage Budge up and share it with me Shall I bring cake too " Sod it why not? | |||
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"I must admit to not being very active though. I try, but my poor, arthritic body doesn't like it. I had a Mc Filet o fish tonight , because I can't taste anything and my son was ordering. " I'm sorry to hear you're feeling poorly. If we ever get together though you will find me gentle and considerate Nanna | |||
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"It seems all women on the thread would prefer McDonald's to you op. If someone could get me 20 mcnuggets when there that would be great, I need a little snack x" I'm thinking of making a McD run - happy to pick up some. Mmm. | |||
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"It seems all women on the thread would prefer McDonald's to you op. If someone could get me 20 mcnuggets when there that would be great, I need a little snack x I'm thinking of making a McD run - happy to pick up some. Mmm." Grab us a double quarter pounder please with extra pickles | |||
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"It seems all women on the thread would prefer McDonald's to you op. If someone could get me 20 mcnuggets when there that would be great, I need a little snack x I'm thinking of making a McD run - happy to pick up some. Mmm. Grab us a double quarter pounder please with extra pickles " Of course! | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" That is so cruel and unkind. Shame on you. | |||
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"Can we give you our order!! Xx" I'm giggling at all the McD orders | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d That is so cruel and unkind. Shame on you." | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" Wow! I'm 93kg I do charity ultra challenge walks consisting of walking 50km /65km walk constantly in 10 hours hardest course the company can find so lots of large hills etc so yes I maybe fat but I'm bloody active . Yes I've never considered myself as sexy | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP Wow sexy definitely " But alas I’m far too heavy | |||
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"Well fuck me I must be living a lie... I'm active, sexy (to some) and guess what definitely not 75/80kg I'm just gonna sit over here with my popcorn and watch the carnage " Remove the to some part please | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP Wow sexy definitely But alas I’m far too heavy " Ah well. Can I get you a burger to make up for not being sexy? | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll …" Wise words | |||
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"Why are people posting answers to this troll . If no one feeds it it will go some else if it's not already " Because we want to. | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words " 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's | |||
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"Why are people posting answers to this troll . If no one feeds it it will go some else if it's not already " Maybe so the OP can see how nasty his words are. The fact he's stayed silent says it all really. | |||
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"Why are people posting answers to this troll . If no one feeds it it will go some else if it's not already " Because if we don't lighten the mood, we may just believe his nonsense | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's " Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. | |||
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"Maybe he's off to McDonalds" Wanna share my milkshake? | |||
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"I forgot to say I lift weights and dance 4 times a week. I've got chocolates left from Xmas, who wants some?" I’d love some, but not the chocolates… | |||
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"Why are people posting answers to this troll . If no one feeds it it will go some else if it's not already Maybe so the OP can see how nasty his words are. The fact he's stayed silent says it all really. " Although he is getting a reaction. And if you’re not getting any attention, then negative attention is better than none at all. First rule of attachment theory. | |||
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"Maybe he's off to McDonalds Wanna share my milkshake? " Does it bring all the sexy’s to the yard | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. " Can you pick me up a banana milkshake x | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" And then you'd think that "mature" (im being polite) People would be actually wiser..but NO absolutely wrong ! | |||
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"Maybe he's off to McDonalds Wanna share my milkshake? Does it bring all the sexy’s to the yard " Sadly, not any more! | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. Can you pick me up a banana milkshake x" Added to my list! | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. Can you pick me up a banana milkshake x Added to my list! " Filet-o-fish and a Big Mac please, I’ll PayPal you. | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. Can you pick me up a banana milkshake x Added to my list! Filet-o-fish and a Big Mac please, I’ll PayPal you. " Happy to be of service! | |||
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"And yet 12 weeks ago you were on a thread about BBW and curvy ladies telling them how amazing they are! " I imagine they turned him down. | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. Can you pick me up a banana milkshake x Added to my list! Filet-o-fish and a Big Mac please, I’ll PayPal you. Happy to be of service! " Don’t forget the serviettes, those filets can be messy! | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's " Someone crikey I need to read what I post , that predictive text is dangerous | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP Wow sexy definitely But alas I’m far too heavy Ah well. Can I get you a burger to make up for not being sexy? " Yes please but which are the best buns to cry into? | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP Wow sexy definitely But alas I’m far too heavy Ah well. Can I get you a burger to make up for not being sexy? Yes please but which are the best buns to cry into? " Mine | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. Can you pick me up a banana milkshake x Added to my list! Filet-o-fish and a Big Mac please, I’ll PayPal you. Happy to be of service! Don’t forget the serviettes, those filets can be messy! " Oh totally. Wouldn't want you dribbling. | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP Wow sexy definitely But alas I’m far too heavy Ah well. Can I get you a burger to make up for not being sexy? Yes please but which are the best buns to cry into? Mine " According to your avatar, he's already got his hands on those | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. Can you pick me up a banana milkshake x Added to my list! Filet-o-fish and a Big Mac please, I’ll PayPal you. Happy to be of service! Don’t forget the serviettes, those filets can be messy! Oh totally. Wouldn't want you dribbling. " Or squirting… …tartare sauce of course! | |||
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"I not handsome have faults but omg can I say without offending people... don't say you sexy and active when..75 80kg..get real..be true...I know I will be slaughtered... but you know if you slaughter me...it was on your way to MC d" Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe some think you are sexy. Others wont | |||
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"For the record op; I’m 80kg. Body shaming is not cool. I’m very proud of my body. " Sexy body it is too | |||
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"Notice how the op has not responded. Body shaming and looking to get a reaction. Who knew there were trolls on here! Never feed the troll … Wise words 100% Did singing say they were going to McDonald's Me! So far I'm getting 20 nuggets and a double quarter pounder and I was thinking fries and a McFlurry. Can you pick me up a banana milkshake x Added to my list! Filet-o-fish and a Big Mac please, I’ll PayPal you. Happy to be of service! Don’t forget the serviettes, those filets can be messy! Oh totally. Wouldn't want you dribbling. Or squirting… …tartare sauce of course! " Of course. | |||
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"Gary. Go to bed . " I’m guessing alone And for the record, also over 80kg here! | |||
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"Maybe he's off to McDonalds Wanna share my milkshake? " I'm watching my weight, garys not happy with chunky ladies | |||
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"Maybe he's off to McDonalds Wanna share my milkshake? I'm watching my weight, garys not happy with chunky ladies " Gary can get to... McDonalds. | |||
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"Maybe he's off to McDonalds Wanna share my milkshake? I'm watching my weight, garys not happy with chunky ladies Gary can get to... McDonalds. " | |||
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"For the record op; I’m 80kg. Body shaming is not cool. I’m very proud of my body. Sexy body it is too " Thank you. I’m not trying to lose weight. I love my shape. | |||
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"I have just weighed myself and I am 74kg. Can someone pick me up around 6 quarter pounders please so I can round up to 75kg? Thanks " This is turning into quite the trip! I'd best use the app. | |||
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"For the record op; I’m 80kg. Body shaming is not cool. I’m very proud of my body. Sexy body it is too Thank you. I’m not trying to lose weight. I love my shape. " I wouldn't either in your position, banging shape you have | |||
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"Gary was quite complimentary on a bbw thread. Has something happened? " They hadn't started knocking him back then | |||
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"Maybe he's off to McDonalds Wanna share my milkshake? I'm watching my weight, garys not happy with chunky ladies " I’m not Gary! | |||
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". I’ll have a Big Mac meal please. Oh and a cheeseburger. Always gotta have a little sneaky extra Happy new year " My sneaky extra is a hot apple pie. I am salivating. Happy New Year, Nora | |||
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". I’ll have a Big Mac meal please. Oh and a cheeseburger. Always gotta have a little sneaky extra Happy new year My sneaky extra is a hot apple pie. I am salivating. Happy New Year, Nora " That’s not an extra . That’s pudding. That’s standard | |||
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"I'm sure I weigh 80kg (no idea). Took my makeup off and I'm down to 3oz. I need those burgers. Important question though - the one everyone should be asking. Do you dunk your fries in your milkshake? " I don't have the milkshakes, but surely the important question is - gherkins or not?? | |||
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". I’ll have a Big Mac meal please. Oh and a cheeseburger. Always gotta have a little sneaky extra Happy new year My sneaky extra is a hot apple pie. I am salivating. Happy New Year, Nora That’s not an extra . That’s pudding. That’s standard " That's such a relief. My people | |||
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"I'm sure I weigh 80kg (no idea). Took my makeup off and I'm down to 3oz. I need those burgers. Important question though - the one everyone should be asking. Do you dunk your fries in your milkshake? I don't have the milkshakes, but surely the important question is - gherkins or not??" The gherkins raise mcd above BK. Its the defining mark of a civilised burger imo | |||
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"Maybe he's off to McDonalds Wanna share my milkshake? I'm watching my weight, garys not happy with chunky ladies I’m not Gary! " if you throw in some mozza bites, I'm all yours! | |||
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"For the record op; I’m 80kg. Body shaming is not cool. I’m very proud of my body. " And so you should be | |||
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"I'm sure I weigh 80kg (no idea). Took my makeup off and I'm down to 3oz. I need those burgers. Important question though - the one everyone should be asking. Do you dunk your fries in your milkshake? I don't have the milkshakes, but surely the important question is - gherkins or not??" Hell no are there people that don’t take the gherkins out? | |||
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"I'm sure I weigh 80kg (no idea). Took my makeup off and I'm down to 3oz. I need those burgers. Important question though - the one everyone should be asking. Do you dunk your fries in your milkshake? I don't have the milkshakes, but surely the important question is - gherkins or not?? Hell no are there people that don’t take the gherkins out? " That would be me! | |||
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"I’m sexy and I’m active Oh fuck I wasn’t meant to say that being over 80kg My apologies OP Wow sexy definitely But alas I’m far too heavy Ah well. Can I get you a burger to make up for not being sexy? Yes please but which are the best buns to cry into? Mine According to your avatar, he's already got his hands on those " Too bloody right I have. Hubba hubba | |||
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"I'm sure I weigh 80kg (no idea). Took my makeup off and I'm down to 3oz. I need those burgers. Important question though - the one everyone should be asking. Do you dunk your fries in your milkshake? I don't have the milkshakes, but surely the important question is - gherkins or not?? The gherkins raise mcd above BK. Its the defining mark of a civilised burger imo" | |||
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"Purely for research and to ensure my point was going to be 100% accurate, I have taken the time to perv on every lady in this thread, and I can confirm everyone of you lovely lassies are 100% sexy. Of course it has already been established that OP is speaking nonsense. Ladies, you all look great " Bloody opportunist! | |||
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"I'm sure I weigh 80kg (no idea). Took my makeup off and I'm down to 3oz. I need those burgers. Important question though - the one everyone should be asking. Do you dunk your fries in your milkshake? I don't have the milkshakes, but surely the important question is - gherkins or not?? Hell no are there people that don’t take the gherkins out? That would be me! " I could never snog you after a McDonald’s! | |||
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"I'm sure I weigh 80kg (no idea). Took my makeup off and I'm down to 3oz. I need those burgers. Important question though - the one everyone should be asking. Do you dunk your fries in your milkshake? I don't have the milkshakes, but surely the important question is - gherkins or not?? Hell no are there people that don’t take the gherkins out? That would be me! I could never snog you after a McDonald’s!" A fellow £20+ spender. I doff my hat | |||
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"I'm sure I weigh 80kg (no idea). Took my makeup off and I'm down to 3oz. I need those burgers. Important question though - the one everyone should be asking. Do you dunk your fries in your milkshake? I don't have the milkshakes, but surely the important question is - gherkins or not?? Hell no are there people that don’t take the gherkins out? That would be me! I could never snog you after a McDonald’s!" Meh, I’d eat McNuggets before hand then. | |||
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"I'm heavier than the weights you mentioned OP but I'm probably six thousands times more active than you and also very sexy especially right now in my bed with my yellow pajamas. Stop being so jealous and negative bestie. X " Very, very sexy. | |||
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"Purely for research and to ensure my point was going to be 100% accurate, I have taken the time to perv on every lady in this thread, and I can confirm everyone of you lovely lassies are 100% sexy. Of course it has already been established that OP is speaking nonsense. Ladies, you all look great Bloody opportunist! " Like you don't perv your eyes out most days | |||
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"I'm heavier than the weights you mentioned OP but I'm probably six thousands times more active than you and also very sexy especially right now in my bed with my yellow pajamas. Stop being so jealous and negative bestie. X Very, very sexy. " My very active and sexy self says thank you kind sir. | |||
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"I'm interested to know how much Gary weighs From what I can see, he's hardly got the body of a racing snake " what..what the hell is a racing snake? | |||
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"Purely for research and to ensure my point was going to be 100% accurate, I have taken the time to perv on every lady in this thread, and I can confirm everyone of you lovely lassies are 100% sexy. Of course it has already been established that OP is speaking nonsense. Ladies, you all look great Bloody opportunist! Like you don't perv your eyes out most days " Moi? | |||
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"Purely for research and to ensure my point was going to be 100% accurate, I have taken the time to perv on every lady in this thread, and I can confirm everyone of you lovely lassies are 100% sexy. Of course it has already been established that OP is speaking nonsense. Ladies, you all look great Bloody opportunist! Like you don't perv your eyes out most days Moi? " No-one is convinced by your ! | |||
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"I take it you only fancy ladies who look underweight op? " Often seen hanging around the eating disorders clinic… | |||
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"Purely for research and to ensure my point was going to be 100% accurate, I have taken the time to perv on every lady in this thread, and I can confirm everyone of you lovely lassies are 100% sexy. Of course it has already been established that OP is speaking nonsense. Ladies, you all look great Bloody opportunist! Like you don't perv your eyes out most days Moi? No-one is convinced by your !" But, but, but, I’m an Angel! | |||
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"So, what I've gotten from the OP so far is; A: He's a hypocrite B: He hasn't grasped the basics of language in his years of life C: He now apparently dislikes "oversized" people?? Now. As someone said before, a person's weight can be changed. You, however, will more than likely always be a C***. Shaming anyone for anything shouldn't be welcomed, nor be a desire to do. Besides, 80kg is what, 12/13st? Hardly large and in no way not worthy of a claim to be sexy. The same applies to those weighing in at 50kg, 110kg, 75kg or whatever weight someone is. As with everything, it's all a matter of personal opinion and like arseholes, everyone has them. Unfortunately your arsehole seems to be a bit...unwashed. Better change your description... And can the McDonalds talk please stop...I'm bloody starving and can't go anywhere!! " You don't have to go anywhere McDonald's are on Uber eats. | |||
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"I'm heavier than the weights you mentioned OP but I'm probably six thousands times more active than you and also very sexy especially right now in my bed with my yellow pajamas. Stop being so jealous and negative bestie. X " You are certainly sexy LBC | |||
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"I'm interested to know how much Gary weighs From what I can see, he's hardly got the body of a racing snake what..what the hell is a racing snake? " Just means skinny. | |||
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"So, what I've gotten from the OP so far is; A: He's a hypocrite B: He hasn't grasped the basics of language in his years of life C: He now apparently dislikes "oversized" people?? Now. As someone said before, a person's weight can be changed. You, however, will more than likely always be a C***. Shaming anyone for anything shouldn't be welcomed, nor be a desire to do. Besides, 80kg is what, 12/13st? Hardly large and in no way not worthy of a claim to be sexy. The same applies to those weighing in at 50kg, 110kg, 75kg or whatever weight someone is. As with everything, it's all a matter of personal opinion and like arseholes, everyone has them. Unfortunately your arsehole seems to be a bit...unwashed. Better change your description... And can the McDonalds talk please stop...I'm bloody starving and can't go anywhere!! " I'm doing a run for the Lounge. Except for Gary. | |||
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"I take it you only fancy ladies who look underweight op? " That's a bit mean. Under 75kg isn't underweight unless you're really tall. The OP is unkind for shaming women over that weight who can also be a totally healthy weight but let's not add to the unkindness with comments like this either. | |||
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