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Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal. |
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Considering the cronies they've already thrown in there it's a bit late to just get upset about Blair.
I mean, somehow Evgeny Lebedev, the son of a former KGB agent, is ok but Blair isn't? Guess Tony doesn't have kompromat on Boris.
The whole honours system is corrupt, it just plays to the English innate love if the class system, like somehow you can rise up from the plebs. |
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"Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal."
He and Gordon Brown as chancellor left the country totally broke requiring all those years of austerity.
As for Iraq what good did that do? Saddam was an evil tyrant but once he was removed it left a political vacuum which allowed looting, murders and assaults carried out by Iraqis knowing the largely powerless British and US troops left to police them could only look on. It was a half arsed job by him and Bush and I'm sad that any proud British soldier lost his life or recieved injury.
He gave like any labour government a feel good factor by copious amounts of spending which we all later paid for.
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"Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal."
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"To y Blair? .. Seriously? "
That explains why he was hanging around in good ole blighty then!
Like a cling-on round the shit bowl giving interviews to news outlets that would listen to him....
I wonder who he had to:-
(A) Fuck?
(B) Gobble off?
(C) Make a charitable donation to someones bank account?
(D) Provide a contact from his little red book (fropm his PM days)?
(E) All the above.
Really? Not bad for going to war illeagly then....? |
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"Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal.
He and Gordon Brown as chancellor left the country totally broke requiring all those years of austerity.
As for Iraq what good did that do? Saddam was an evil tyrant but once he was removed it left a political vacuum which allowed looting, murders and assaults carried out by Iraqis knowing the largely powerless British and US troops left to police them could only look on. It was a half arsed job by him and Bush and I'm sad that any proud British soldier lost his life or recieved injury.
He gave like any labour government a feel good factor by copious amounts of spending which we all later paid for.
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As someone who moved here from Sweden in 2000 I'll say this: Britain was at the time woefully behind, in everything. It was like going back to the 80s. The years of Conservative, essentially the same then as now, focused on what is basically a trickle down economy, left social care, education, etc., all severely lacking.
It was simply a case of plugging the gaps which had arose. Conservatives like to say it's about wasting money when it comes to giving people an education, making sure the state actually functions. And then they cut but don't exactly suffer themselves. The problem isn't the money spent because you benefit from it from the way it benefits the economy through innovation. Countries like Sweden, Germany, and Japan all have higher taxes but also benefit from it. The UK has set itself up as the casino banking centre of the world which benefits no one as all profits and taxes are moved abroad. |
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"Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal.
He and Gordon Brown as chancellor left the country totally broke requiring all those years of austerity.
As for Iraq what good did that do? Saddam was an evil tyrant but once he was removed it left a political vacuum which allowed looting, murders and assaults carried out by Iraqis knowing the largely powerless British and US troops left to police them could only look on. It was a half arsed job by him and Bush and I'm sad that any proud British soldier lost his life or recieved injury.
He gave like any labour government a feel good factor by copious amounts of spending which we all later paid for.
As someone who moved here from Sweden in 2000 I'll say this: Britain was at the time woefully behind, in everything. It was like going back to the 80s. The years of Conservative, essentially the same then as now, focused on what is basically a trickle down economy, left social care, education, etc., all severely lacking.
It was simply a case of plugging the gaps which had arose. Conservatives like to say it's about wasting money when it comes to giving people an education, making sure the state actually functions. And then they cut but don't exactly suffer themselves. The problem isn't the money spent because you benefit from it from the way it benefits the economy through innovation. Countries like Sweden, Germany, and Japan all have higher taxes but also benefit from it. The UK has set itself up as the casino banking centre of the world which benefits no one as all profits and taxes are moved abroad. "
Blair came into power in May 1997, what you saw when you got here was at least 3 and a half years of his policies. He's famous rise to power was largely based on Conservative attitudes whilst using the best (perhaps) of Thatcherism.
After a very bland John Major his housewives choice smile and 43yr old vigour was undoubtedly a vote winner.
However the proof in a successful government only really shows when someone else takes power and only then are its predecessors failings uncovered and bought to light.
Brown though I don't knock him personally was a mistake as PM but the years of austerity during the Cameron years were because Labour had completely overspent and left the country with massive amounts of debt.
To begin with he was a breath of fresh air, broke the influential hold of the unions that weilded great power within labour, grabbed sympathetic attention after Princess Diana's death and rode the "cool Britania" wave of hype but in my mind he was allowed to stay in government too long.
The reasons for his political downfall are why America only ever allows a president a maximum of 2 terms in office.
Yes he made us feel good for a while by spending public money, but we paid for it in the end.
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"Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal.
He and Gordon Brown as chancellor left the country totally broke requiring all those years of austerity.
As for Iraq what good did that do? Saddam was an evil tyrant but once he was removed it left a political vacuum which allowed looting, murders and assaults carried out by Iraqis knowing the largely powerless British and US troops left to police them could only look on. It was a half arsed job by him and Bush and I'm sad that any proud British soldier lost his life or recieved injury.
He gave like any labour government a feel good factor by copious amounts of spending which we all later paid for.
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Utter nonsense. Ww didnt require 10 years of austerity and the global financial crisis wasnt brown and blairs Blair's fault. Thats the tory myth used to ideologically cut government budgets |
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"Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal.
He and Gordon Brown as chancellor left the country totally broke requiring all those years of austerity.
As for Iraq what good did that do? Saddam was an evil tyrant but once he was removed it left a political vacuum which allowed looting, murders and assaults carried out by Iraqis knowing the largely powerless British and US troops left to police them could only look on. It was a half arsed job by him and Bush and I'm sad that any proud British soldier lost his life or recieved injury.
He gave like any labour government a feel good factor by copious amounts of spending which we all later paid for.
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"Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal.
He and Gordon Brown as chancellor left the country totally broke requiring all those years of austerity.
As for Iraq what good did that do? Saddam was an evil tyrant but once he was removed it left a political vacuum which allowed looting, murders and assaults carried out by Iraqis knowing the largely powerless British and US troops left to police them could only look on. It was a half arsed job by him and Bush and I'm sad that any proud British soldier lost his life or recieved injury.
He gave like any labour government a feel good factor by copious amounts of spending which we all later paid for.
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"Sir Tony - best pm since Churchill and left the country much better than he started with. People bang on about iraq but he made the call and parliament backed it. Sadam was wicked and it was post invasion planning that was the problem not the decision to invade - which was legal.
He and Gordon Brown as chancellor left the country totally broke requiring all those years of austerity.
As for Iraq what good did that do? Saddam was an evil tyrant but once he was removed it left a political vacuum which allowed looting, murders and assaults carried out by Iraqis knowing the largely powerless British and US troops left to police them could only look on. It was a half arsed job by him and Bush and I'm sad that any proud British soldier lost his life or recieved injury.
He gave like any labour government a feel good factor by copious amounts of spending which we all later paid for.
Utter nonsense. Ww didnt require 10 years of austerity and the global financial crisis wasnt brown and blairs Blair's fault. Thats the tory myth used to ideologically cut government budgets "
Tony Blair is a war criminal!
He also fucked this country as a neo Liberal closet tory |
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