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"Morning all . Just bought some razor blades no problem then got in the car then thought wow they are pricey. Any other products spring to mind " I gave up buying big name razor blades a few years ago, as they were just getting ridiculously priced. Buy them now online, in bulk, from a company called Clean Shaven, certainly works out cheaper for me. | |||
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"Morning all . Just bought some razor blades no problem then got in the car then thought wow they are pricey. Any other products spring to mind I gave up buying big name razor blades a few years ago, as they were just getting ridiculously priced. Buy them now online, in bulk, from a company called Clean Shaven, certainly works out cheaper for me." thanks mate will check the site | |||
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"Dyson hair straighteners " take your word on that . Got none no more x | |||
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"Morning all . Just bought some razor blades no problem then got in the car then thought wow they are pricey. Any other products spring to mind " They are an absolute rip off plus they are very clever (Gillette that is) where they make several types that look very similar. The amount of times I've bought the wrong ones and you only find out after you've ripped the packaging apart so can't return them ! | |||
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"Products that advertise as for men and separate ones for women. Women's are always the more expensive option. Sanitary towels - I have to pay for the privilege of bleeding every month?" Not really, you pay for the privilege of people going to work every day designing, making and operating machines that make these products and the raw materials used so that you can manage your period more comfortably than without them. You may or may not (depending on your shopping choices) also pay for a brand name. I do understand that people get upset by profiteering over sanitary products but don't understand the complaints about paying for them. We all pay for our food, our water - things we HAVE to have in order to live. We then pay for things like toothpaste and loo roll that make living a far more pleasant and hygienic experience, I just don't understand why sanitary products alone of all the things we pay for should be uniquely free? Maybe it's just I'm a man and don't understand but I can say that having worked for a company that (at other sites) produced some of the absorbant materials used in sanitary products, I'm glad they charged as it meant I got paid for working. For many years now thanks to surgery I've not needed to consider these items but when I did and they were paid from out of a joint account I never considered it an outrage that I was required to put some of my wages towards buying something that others had manufactured. Mr | |||
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"Morning all . Just bought some razor blades no problem then got in the car then thought wow they are pricey. Any other products spring to mind They are an absolute rip off plus they are very clever (Gillette that is) where they make several types that look very similar. The amount of times I've bought the wrong ones and you only find out after you've ripped the packaging apart so can't return them !" agreed. A chap earlier mentioned a site called clean shaven said he bought in bulk worked out cheaper | |||
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"Morning all . Just bought some razor blades no problem then got in the car then thought wow they are pricey. Any other products spring to mind They are an absolute rip off plus they are very clever (Gillette that is) where they make several types that look very similar. The amount of times I've bought the wrong ones and you only find out after you've ripped the packaging apart so can't return them !agreed. A chap earlier mentioned a site called clean shaven said he bought in bulk worked out cheaper " I thought that site might be something different ... | |||
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"Products that advertise as for men and separate ones for women. Women's are always the more expensive option. Sanitary towels - I have to pay for the privilege of bleeding every month? Not really, you pay for the privilege of people going to work every day designing, making and operating machines that make these products and the raw materials used so that you can manage your period more comfortably than without them. You may or may not (depending on your shopping choices) also pay for a brand name. I do understand that people get upset by profiteering over sanitary products but don't understand the complaints about paying for them. We all pay for our food, our water - things we HAVE to have in order to live. We then pay for things like toothpaste and loo roll that make living a far more pleasant and hygienic experience, I just don't understand why sanitary products alone of all the things we pay for should be uniquely free? Maybe it's just I'm a man and don't understand but I can say that having worked for a company that (at other sites) produced some of the absorbant materials used in sanitary products, I'm glad they charged as it meant I got paid for working. For many years now thanks to surgery I've not needed to consider these items but when I did and they were paid from out of a joint account I never considered it an outrage that I was required to put some of my wages towards buying something that others had manufactured. Mr" It's more so the fact that it's not a choice we have menstrual cycles. I understand where you're coming from with food, water etc but women AND men need these. It is only cis women that need sanitary products (the majority of the time anyway). There are alternatives, reusable cups being one of those which I have used but sometimes other issues mean these "cheaper in the long run" options aren't feasible. Maybe I'm just annoyed at the fact I don't want to have a menstrual cycle but I'm supposedly too young to make such a choice for myself which means I continue buying these products to make my week as comfortable as possible. | |||
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"Bottled water Branded medicine " Boil your water and save it in the freezer… saves money | |||
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"Any magic diet pills. Some high end designer stuff. Holidays during school holidays. " Particularly some high-end designer stuff that looks like something anyone who could crochet should be able to make. But just by slapping a designer label on it, it could be sold for silly money. | |||
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"Cost of childcare at nursery’s One just quoted me £58 a day " Lots of stuff with regards to kids is a ripoff. Wrapped up in the “don’t you want the best for your children” guilt trip. | |||
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"Cost of childcare at nursery’s One just quoted me £58 a day " £58 a day??? Are you sure they didn't mean per week? That would still be a lot, but probably easier to understand. What is included, trip to Disneyland daily? | |||
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"Any magic diet pills. Some high end designer stuff. Holidays during school holidays. Particularly some high-end designer stuff that looks like something anyone who could crochet should be able to make. But just by slapping a designer label on it, it could be sold for silly money. " Yeah. Some designers produce great designs and quality tailoring / materials, but others are just unforgivably expensive. My most expensive suit has been with me since the late 90’s and is as good as new. An indulgence / extravagance at the time, but good value in hindsight. | |||
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"Morning all . Just bought some razor blades no problem then got in the car then thought wow they are pricey. Any other products spring to mind " You need to switch to using a double edged safety razor. Less than 10 quid for 100 blades and a closer shave than any cartridge razor will give you | |||
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"Anything made by Apple " Very happy with my apple phones, but would never bother with their computers ... much higher prices for something that does less. | |||
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"Anything made by Apple Very happy with my apple phones, but would never bother with their computers ... much higher prices for something that does less. " That's why I get mine second hand. This iMac cost me less than £100. | |||
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"Cost of childcare at nursery’s One just quoted me £58 a day " I paid £820 a month for a year, and that wasn’t full time as there was one half day / week thrown in. I saved with Care4 vouchers that were salary sacrificed however you can see why some parents don’t return to work with these costs. | |||
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"I don’t know the selling price but a can of Red Bull costs 7.5p to produce. " Just curious. How do you know the cost to make but don't know the retail cost. | |||
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"Products that advertise as for men and separate ones for women. Women's are always the more expensive option. Sanitary towels - I have to pay for the privilege of bleeding every month? Not really, you pay for the privilege of people going to work every day designing, making and operating machines that make these products and the raw materials used so that you can manage your period more comfortably than without them. You may or may not (depending on your shopping choices) also pay for a brand name. I do understand that people get upset by profiteering over sanitary products but don't understand the complaints about paying for them. We all pay for our food, our water - things we HAVE to have in order to live. We then pay for things like toothpaste and loo roll that make living a far more pleasant and hygienic experience, I just don't understand why sanitary products alone of all the things we pay for should be uniquely free? Maybe it's just I'm a man and don't understand but I can say that having worked for a company that (at other sites) produced some of the absorbant materials used in sanitary products, I'm glad they charged as it meant I got paid for working. For many years now thanks to surgery I've not needed to consider these items but when I did and they were paid from out of a joint account I never considered it an outrage that I was required to put some of my wages towards buying something that others had manufactured. Mr It's more so the fact that it's not a choice we have menstrual cycles. I understand where you're coming from with food, water etc but women AND men need these. It is only cis women that need sanitary products (the majority of the time anyway). There are alternatives, reusable cups being one of those which I have used but sometimes other issues mean these "cheaper in the long run" options aren't feasible. Maybe I'm just annoyed at the fact I don't want to have a menstrual cycle but I'm supposedly too young to make such a choice for myself which means I continue buying these products to make my week as comfortable as possible." This has just lead to an interesting chat with her ladyship. It is the fact that this is the only cost of living that is uniquely female (used in the biological sense) that makes it feel unfair - and I totally agree it does feel that way. We just couldn't decide if it actually is morally and ethically unfair. We both feel that for those who are poor there should be an acknowledgement of this cost - a woman on benefits will have less free money than a man though it could be argued that on average a man will require more calories so have a higher food bill. A way of getting free products for those in financial difficulty would absolutely be something that I would support, I'm just unsure about universal free sanitary products in a society where I can't get a free dentist - and nor can anyone else. I'm also aware that my life biases my views, in a fair heterosexual relationship female hygiene is a cost shared by both men and women. As I'm one of the lucky ones living a relatively affluent heteronormal life and this tends to be the lense I see society through. Mr | |||
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"Morning all . Just bought some razor blades no problem then got in the car then thought wow they are pricey. Any other products spring to mind " coffee | |||
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" This has just lead to an interesting chat with her ladyship. It is the fact that this is the only cost of living that is uniquely female (used in the biological sense) that makes it feel unfair - and I totally agree it does feel that way. We just couldn't decide if it actually is morally and ethically unfair. We both feel that for those who are poor there should be an acknowledgement of this cost - a woman on benefits will have less free money than a man though it could be argued that on average a man will require more calories so have a higher food bill. A way of getting free products for those in financial difficulty would absolutely be something that I would support, I'm just unsure about universal free sanitary products in a society where I can't get a free dentist - and nor can anyone else. I'm also aware that my life biases my views, in a fair heterosexual relationship female hygiene is a cost shared by both men and women. As I'm one of the lucky ones living a relatively affluent heteronormal life and this tends to be the lense I see society through. Mr" Thank you for not jumping down my throat and taking the time to actually reflect on different view points. I'm lucky that I can afford it no quarms, and I do feel for those who can't afford the basic sanitary products. On my road to discovering reusable products I bought quite a few cups to gift to women, all were graciously received and hopefully the end of buying sanitary items for themselves. One small thing can free up lots of smaller amounts of money that can equate to food for themselves or their children. I guess it's also whether the cost of sanitary products has an impact on you or whether you're actually that interested in it as to how you view the issue. There is a red box project that is a NPO charity which provides sanitary products to women who may not otherwise be able to afford them. (should anyone be silently following this and can sympathise/empathise) | |||
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"Womens underwear. In fact any woman's clothing " Apart from blue - that's worth every penny. | |||
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""Marmite" it's rubbish and belongs in the bin " Nooooo!!! | |||
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"Posh nosh. I just don't get why people pay so much for food where the chef has given you a half portion & added a flower on top. " Depends! Some of the most expensive meals I have ever had have also been among the best value, due to quality of ingredients, recipes, execution, quality, memorability. Some “posh” food may be a ripoff, but not all | |||
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" Thank you for not jumping down my throat and taking the time to actually reflect on different view points. I'm lucky that I can afford it no quarms, and I do feel for those who can't afford the basic sanitary products. On my road to discovering reusable products I bought quite a few cups to gift to women, all were graciously received and hopefully the end of buying sanitary items for themselves. One small thing can free up lots of smaller amounts of money that can equate to food for themselves or their children. I guess it's also whether the cost of sanitary products has an impact on you or whether you're actually that interested in it as to how you view the issue. There is a red box project that is a NPO charity which provides sanitary products to women who may not otherwise be able to afford them. (should anyone be silently following this and can sympathise/empathise) " Hey, nothing to thank me for, I genuinely thought the same about your response, it can be really hard on here to express a difference of opinion without it becoming heated or personal, I would far rather exchange ideas and learn. I absolutely agree with your comments about affordability and charity work. I think sanitary products are overlooked way too much when we think of helping others. Anyone who is genuinely struggling with the cost of feminine hygiene is going to be struggling with a great deal else besides and anyone in this situation should be helped by society. Mr | |||
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"Robux. Hats off to the genius who's got all these parents working real jobs to buy virtual clothes and houses for wee virtual people! " I feel your pain!! | |||
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" This has just lead to an interesting chat with her ladyship. It is the fact that this is the only cost of living that is uniquely female (used in the biological sense) that makes it feel unfair - and I totally agree it does feel that way. We just couldn't decide if it actually is morally and ethically unfair. We both feel that for those who are poor there should be an acknowledgement of this cost - a woman on benefits will have less free money than a man though it could be argued that on average a man will require more calories so have a higher food bill. A way of getting free products for those in financial difficulty would absolutely be something that I would support, I'm just unsure about universal free sanitary products in a society where I can't get a free dentist - and nor can anyone else. I'm also aware that my life biases my views, in a fair heterosexual relationship female hygiene is a cost shared by both men and women. As I'm one of the lucky ones living a relatively affluent heteronormal life and this tends to be the lense I see society through. Mr Thank you for not jumping down my throat and taking the time to actually reflect on different view points. I'm lucky that I can afford it no quarms, and I do feel for those who can't afford the basic sanitary products. On my road to discovering reusable products I bought quite a few cups to gift to women, all were graciously received and hopefully the end of buying sanitary items for themselves. One small thing can free up lots of smaller amounts of money that can equate to food for themselves or their children. I guess it's also whether the cost of sanitary products has an impact on you or whether you're actually that interested in it as to how you view the issue. There is a red box project that is a NPO charity which provides sanitary products to women who may not otherwise be able to afford them. (should anyone be silently following this and can sympathise/empathise) " They do the red box at schools too | |||
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"Robux. Hats off to the genius who's got all these parents working real jobs to buy virtual clothes and houses for wee virtual people! I feel your pain!! " Glad I'm not the only sucker | |||
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"Cost of childcare at nursery’s One just quoted me £58 a day £58 a day??? Are you sure they didn't mean per week? That would still be a lot, but probably easier to understand. What is included, trip to Disneyland daily? " £58 a week, just over 11 quid a day. Not too sure how you work out the rent, council tax, insurance, heating, fixtures and fittings, wages etc., etc and god forbid they may like to make a profit. | |||
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"Robux. Hats off to the genius who's got all these parents working real jobs to buy virtual clothes and houses for wee virtual people! I feel your pain!! Glad I'm not the only sucker " And blinking Fornite, season passes and blinking skins arghhh | |||
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"Cost of childcare at nursery’s One just quoted me £58 a day I paid £820 a month for a year, and that wasn’t full time as there was one half day / week thrown in. I saved with Care4 vouchers that were salary sacrificed however you can see why some parents don’t return to work with these costs. " At one point I had 3 kids in nursery and it took my entire wage even with the salary sacrifice. I think if it was now I couldn't work. The cost is exorbitant but actually I think good care for young children is worth it. | |||
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"Those American sweet shops we have here now that want to charge £9 for a packet of crisps " Those expensive potato chips and candy grrrr | |||
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"Printer ink is about £1 or less to make and sold for 10+ Branded clothing Housing prices Music etc " Sometimes it’s actually cheaper to buy a new printer that comes with ink than it is to buy an ink cartridge | |||
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"Male entry fees to swing clubs " This | |||
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"Harrods at Christmas is on…. £115,000 for a perfume… I like a good scent but £115k " Tell me you like to show off without telling me you like to show off | |||
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"APPLE products" Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts " Until the screen gets (very easily) cracked. | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts Until the screen gets (very easily) cracked." iPhone or apple computer? | |||
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"Milk " You drink milk? | |||
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"Milk You drink milk? " | |||
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"Crotch less panties" Awww I love my crotch less panties they make me horny | |||
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"Morning all . Just bought some razor blades no problem then got in the car then thought wow they are pricey. Any other products spring to mind " Try the orange & blue Lidl own brand ones. finally got hacked off with the price of Gilette (a chunk of which seems to go to pay for a bunch of crap footballers who've continuously failed to win a tin cup for well over half a centuary to tell me real me use gilette ). Bought the Lidl one as a trial (about £4 for the razor and single blade), which works great and is about a quid per blade refill (i.e. £5 for a five pack) So, stop giving your cash to sporting failures and give the own brand a crack | |||
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"Crotch less panties Awww I love my crotch less panties they make me horny " Rip them off! | |||
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"Cold sore cream, £2500 a kilo." 3000 where I live | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts " sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price" MacBook air M1 | |||
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"Those non stick george forman grills and air fryers, an oven can do all these jobs. Knife sets, all you need is a cleaver " remind me not to meet you in a dark alley | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price MacBook air M1 " ok fan boys will be fan boys, but sorry dont by it, have used both for years, always go back to pc/android due to price, if that makes me cheap then so be it, but they do what i need for often less than half the price | |||
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"Tv tax/licence." dont pay mine, havnt missed terestial tv at all | |||
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"Why does a good turkey cost so much? It can cost over £100 for a big bird " your joking | |||
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"Why does a good turkey cost so much? It can cost over £100 for a big bird your joking " Sadly I am not, but as surprised as you are. | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price MacBook air M1 ok fan boys will be fan boys, but sorry dont by it, have used both for years, always go back to pc/android due to price, if that makes me cheap then so be it, but they do what i need for often less than half the price" I'm not a fanbboy, as I don't rate the iPhone and use android phones. However I do love macbooks. I only switched because of Windows 8 but have never looked back and wouldn't go back to windows now, still use it at work and prefer Mac os. That they're sexy is a good bonus. iPad are also the easiest tablet for the casual user. | |||
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"Why does a good turkey cost so much? It can cost over £100 for a big bird your joking Sadly I am not, but as surprised as you are." used to be £20 for a good one, anyway horrible things give me a nice chicken everytime, much nicer, and if you need more cook 2, or for that price 10 | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price MacBook air M1 ok fan boys will be fan boys, but sorry dont by it, have used both for years, always go back to pc/android due to price, if that makes me cheap then so be it, but they do what i need for often less than half the price" I've an android phone too because iPhone is not good value but MacBook air M1's performance per £ is much better than windows laptops | |||
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"Why does a good turkey cost so much? It can cost over £100 for a big bird your joking Sadly I am not, but as surprised as you are. used to be £20 for a good one, anyway horrible things give me a nice chicken everytime, much nicer, and if you need more cook 2, or for that price 10" To be fair I prefer a nice free range chicken too. But if you are desperate for turkey, wait till 27th and most places sell them off at fraction of price. Get one, stick in the freezer for another time or even next Xmas | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price MacBook air M1 ok fan boys will be fan boys, but sorry dont by it, have used both for years, always go back to pc/android due to price, if that makes me cheap then so be it, but they do what i need for often less than half the price I'm not a fanbboy, as I don't rate the iPhone and use android phones. However I do love macbooks. I only switched because of Windows 8 but have never looked back and wouldn't go back to windows now, still use it at work and prefer Mac os. That they're sexy is a good bonus. iPad are also the easiest tablet for the casual user. " i will give you the ipad, but ive no need for one, but my dad had one in his last years in a home, and he loved it as it was a computer he could use in bed, so yes they are great, they were the first and nobody really ever caught up, but ive used mac computers and not a fan, but we are all different, but i can get the same speck pc for less than half the price, im typing this on a second hand notebook, all i really do with it is serf the web, cost me £200 only a year old, wiped it and re installed it, never let me down, why spend more. I do uses a high end laptop for other things, motec etc, and you need the power for that, but motec dont support macs and have never made software for them, they are one of the biggest race ecu/datalogger makers in the world, must tell you something | |||
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"Why does a good turkey cost so much? It can cost over £100 for a big bird your joking Sadly I am not, but as surprised as you are. used to be £20 for a good one, anyway horrible things give me a nice chicken everytime, much nicer, and if you need more cook 2, or for that price 10 To be fair I prefer a nice free range chicken too. But if you are desperate for turkey, wait till 27th and most places sell them off at fraction of price. Get one, stick in the freezer for another time or even next Xmas " not a fan of turkey tbh, plus dont have a big enough freezer lol | |||
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"Houses. Im fortunately mortgage free but fuck me, house prices are ridiculous for what they actually are" I share this sentiment, I don't know what would our generation do because wages are not enough to get a mortgage these days | |||
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"Why does a good turkey cost so much? It can cost over £100 for a big bird your joking Sadly I am not, but as surprised as you are. used to be £20 for a good one, anyway horrible things give me a nice chicken everytime, much nicer, and if you need more cook 2, or for that price 10 To be fair I prefer a nice free range chicken too. But if you are desperate for turkey, wait till 27th and most places sell them off at fraction of price. Get one, stick in the freezer for another time or even next Xmas not a fan of turkey tbh, plus dont have a big enough freezer lol" Certainly not a good reason to get a bigger freezer then | |||
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"Houses. Im fortunately mortgage free but fuck me, house prices are ridiculous for what they actually are I share this sentiment, I don't know what would our generation do because wages are not enough to get a mortgage these days " Precisely | |||
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"Bottled water Branded medicine " Evian. Or as its more accurately known when spelt backwards....... Winston | |||
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"Products that advertise as for men and separate ones for women. Women's are always the more expensive option. Sanitary towels - I have to pay for the privilege of bleeding every month?" You don’t need to shave your chin every other day? | |||
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"But yes it's got to be petrol at the minute. " its actually not, its very cheap, its the tax on it that makes it expensive | |||
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"anything by Apple" Are they though? They are a tad expensive but hardly a ripoff. Ripoff suggests they cost pennies in the pennies to make. That’s not the case here. LV handbags, Branded Medicines that are out if patent, and ‘Designer’ Colognes/Perfumes I agree. But there’s not 300% margin on a MacBook Pro. | |||
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"I would say designer clothes. " Creativity has its price if the buyer is willing to pay it | |||
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"Cost of childcare at nursery’s One just quoted me £58 a day " Wow! That’s not far off private school fees for non borders (London london of course). | |||
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"I would say designer clothes. Creativity has its price if the buyer is willing to pay it " If its actually creative using rich fabrics, accessories and unique ideas then fair enough.. if you are willing to pay for someone's name plastered in big font all over.. oh well what's creative about that? | |||
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"Cost of childcare at nursery’s One just quoted me £58 a day I paid £820 a month for a year, and that wasn’t full time as there was one half day / week thrown in. I saved with Care4 vouchers that were salary sacrificed however you can see why some parents don’t return to work with these costs. " Was paying £600 a month for 4 days a week nearly 18 years ago! Realisation that it cost £7k AFTER tax just to pay someone else to look after your children certainly puts into perspective the cost of having children and also the need to focus on making work time count for something! Not surprised it is close to double that now! | |||
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"Pizzas There is a reason there are so many sellers filling empty shops. High profit. If people tried making their own they are better and soooo much cheaper... " Do factor time in the calculation? Is time cheap? | |||
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"But yes it's got to be petrol at the minute. its actually not, its very cheap, its the tax on it that makes it expensive" . I'll console myself with that next time I'm filling up. | |||
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"But yes it's got to be petrol at the minute. its actually not, its very cheap, its the tax on it that makes it expensive. I'll console myself with that next time I'm filling up. " | |||
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"Cost of childcare at nursery’s One just quoted me £58 a day I paid £820 a month for a year, and that wasn’t full time as there was one half day / week thrown in. I saved with Care4 vouchers that were salary sacrificed however you can see why some parents don’t return to work with these costs. Was paying £600 a month for 4 days a week nearly 18 years ago! Realisation that it cost £7k AFTER tax just to pay someone else to look after your children certainly puts into perspective the cost of having children and also the need to focus on making work time count for something! Not surprised it is close to double that now! " thats the problem, most of us oldies when growing up had one parent working, the other doing child care, now one income isnt enough, but then you have to pay child care, not sure if its better really | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price" There will be a premium. It all depends what you want to do with it. But generally if you want ease of use and an elegant integrated solution. It is the superior offering. You can always build better (aka faster) for cheaper. But unless your time is very cheap then it is not really worthwhile. But they are far from ‘just’ being a fashion accessory! My iMac Pro paid for itself in under a month. So well worth the investment. | |||
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"Unpopular opinion overrated OLAPLEX Apple products " Whaaat, really? I think Olaplex is miraculous, worth every penny! | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price MacBook air M1 ok fan boys will be fan boys, but sorry dont by it, have used both for years, always go back to pc/android due to price, if that makes me cheap then so be it, but they do what i need for often less than half the price" Apple are bot meant to best bang for buck. They are not aimed at the price sensitive. That’s what Windows is for. Windows /Android = Tuning shop Subaru. Apple = BMW M3. I know which is faster and more cost effective. But also which is more refined and easier to live with day to day and long term. Usually those that are price sensitive don’t invest in the full ecosystem that adds the depth of value that comes with it as all they focus on is the specs and the process. Not the overall experience. If they were really just fashion accessories why are they generally the weapon of choice for devops engineers? | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price There will be a premium. It all depends what you want to do with it. But generally if you want ease of use and an elegant integrated solution. It is the superior offering. You can always build better (aka faster) for cheaper. But unless your time is very cheap then it is not really worthwhile. But they are far from ‘just’ being a fashion accessory! My iMac Pro paid for itself in under a month. So well worth the investment. " well if it works for you then all good | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price MacBook air M1 ok fan boys will be fan boys, but sorry dont by it, have used both for years, always go back to pc/android due to price, if that makes me cheap then so be it, but they do what i need for often less than half the price Apple are bot meant to best bang for buck. They are not aimed at the price sensitive. That’s what Windows is for. Windows /Android = Tuning shop Subaru. Apple = BMW M3. I know which is faster and more cost effective. But also which is more refined and easier to live with day to day and long term. Usually those that are price sensitive don’t invest in the full ecosystem that adds the depth of value that comes with it as all they focus on is the specs and the process. Not the overall experience. If they were really just fashion accessories why are they generally the weapon of choice for devops engineers? " Not just the Devops engineers, but editors, photo editors, video editors, live TV broadcasting etc etc. People love to slam on Apple without realising that, yes they’re expensive, they do generally last longer than a Windows equivalent. And I say with that confidence as my MacBook Pro is almost 6 years old, still gets all the new operating systems and is functioning like the day I bought it. Can’t really say that about a Windows laptop which has its performance drop over time due to updates & other issues. | |||
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"in my industry you cant get the needed software on apple so no choice but to have a pc, i spoke to one of the companies about it ant they told me its not worth the cost to develope the software for apple as they are more for the hobby user, not my words, not trying to start a argument, but this was the biggest maker of software in motorracing so they know the market" It’s horses for course though, Windows takes the biggest slice of market share, Apple is niche in what it does, but does it brilliantly. I’ve worked in what’s called a “Hybrid” environment within the media industry, a mix of both Apple & Windows, and approx 90% of the software was cross compatible. I can’t imagine using Apple Mac’s in Motor racing, not with the required connectivity, something that Apple lacks unless you buy dongles. | |||
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"Houses. Im fortunately mortgage free but fuck me, house prices are ridiculous for what they actually are I share this sentiment, I don't know what would our generation do because wages are not enough to get a mortgage these days " Study hard. Stay current on skills. Market skills in a savvy way and rise above the curve. Just like in any other supply/demand driven market. Best advice I have given my teenage kids - assess anything you want to spend on in terms of how many hours you’d have to work minimum wage to buy it. Then think again. It changed how they viewed education and spent their spare time. But agree property is too high a fraction of most peoples income. | |||
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"APPLE products Apple computers actually provide very good value for money compared to their windows and chrome based counterparts sorry they are nothing more than a fashion item, always have been, show me an apple product thats better than the equivilant pc/phone at the same price MacBook air M1 ok fan boys will be fan boys, but sorry dont by it, have used both for years, always go back to pc/android due to price, if that makes me cheap then so be it, but they do what i need for often less than half the price Apple are bot meant to best bang for buck. They are not aimed at the price sensitive. That’s what Windows is for. Windows /Android = Tuning shop Subaru. Apple = BMW M3. I know which is faster and more cost effective. But also which is more refined and easier to live with day to day and long term. Usually those that are price sensitive don’t invest in the full ecosystem that adds the depth of value that comes with it as all they focus on is the specs and the process. Not the overall experience. If they were really just fashion accessories why are they generally the weapon of choice for devops engineers? Not just the Devops engineers, but editors, photo editors, video editors, live TV broadcasting etc etc. People love to slam on Apple without realising that, yes they’re expensive, they do generally last longer than a Windows equivalent. And I say with that confidence as my MacBook Pro is almost 6 years old, still gets all the new operating systems and is functioning like the day I bought it. Can’t really say that about a Windows laptop which has its performance drop over time due to updates & other issues. " yes ive heard this before, and as i dont own an apple i cant comment, i just re instal win 10 every year or so, doesnt take long, mostly it does it on its own, and back to new again, but like i said the 3rd party software just isnt there foe apple like it is for pc, and modern pc laptops arent bad, lets face it all i need is for it to turn on and do simple tasks so works for me | |||
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"in my industry you cant get the needed software on apple so no choice but to have a pc, i spoke to one of the companies about it ant they told me its not worth the cost to develope the software for apple as they are more for the hobby user, not my words, not trying to start a argument, but this was the biggest maker of software in motorracing so they know the market It’s horses for course though, Windows takes the biggest slice of market share, Apple is niche in what it does, but does it brilliantly. I’ve worked in what’s called a “Hybrid” environment within the media industry, a mix of both Apple & Windows, and approx 90% of the software was cross compatible. I can’t imagine using Apple Mac’s in Motor racing, not with the required connectivity, something that Apple lacks unless you buy dongles. " im not even sure if thats possable tbh, never seen an apple laptop in the paddok, must say something, maybe they have missed a trick there, as globaly there must be millions like me | |||
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"Houses. Im fortunately mortgage free but fuck me, house prices are ridiculous for what they actually are I share this sentiment, I don't know what would our generation do because wages are not enough to get a mortgage these days Study hard. Stay current on skills. Market skills in a savvy way and rise above the curve. Just like in any other supply/demand driven market. Best advice I have given my teenage kids - assess anything you want to spend on in terms of how many hours you’d have to work minimum wage to buy it. Then think again. It changed how they viewed education and spent their spare time. But agree property is too high a fraction of most peoples income. " maybe we will become a nation of renters like most of europe has been for a while | |||
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"in my industry you cant get the needed software on apple so no choice but to have a pc, i spoke to one of the companies about it ant they told me its not worth the cost to develope the software for apple as they are more for the hobby user, not my words, not trying to start a argument, but this was the biggest maker of software in motorracing so they know the market It’s horses for course though, Windows takes the biggest slice of market share, Apple is niche in what it does, but does it brilliantly. I’ve worked in what’s called a “Hybrid” environment within the media industry, a mix of both Apple & Windows, and approx 90% of the software was cross compatible. I can’t imagine using Apple Mac’s in Motor racing, not with the required connectivity, something that Apple lacks unless you buy dongles. im not even sure if thats possable tbh, never seen an apple laptop in the paddok, must say something, maybe they have missed a trick there, as globaly there must be millions like me" Well they would be more durable as they’re made out of milled aluminium, but it’s the price vs performance vs available software. I’ve never seen tuning software or sensor monitoring software written for MacOS. | |||
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"in my industry you cant get the needed software on apple so no choice but to have a pc, i spoke to one of the companies about it ant they told me its not worth the cost to develope the software for apple as they are more for the hobby user, not my words, not trying to start a argument, but this was the biggest maker of software in motorracing so they know the market" That’s a niche software package in a very niche market. Makes complete sense. Their choice is solely baed on market share and the target market, like many niche areas tends to be PC only. Sadly no longer with the new AS Processors. But all Intel CPU macs can run Windows as well. Apple don’t make rugged (properly rugged) engineering laptops either which is a big reason for the dominance of Windows in those niche markets. There’s no need to argue - but it is worth realising that experience in one industry does not translate to exactly the same experience across the board. The market value of the entire motor racing industry software suppliers would be chicken feed compared to Apple’s budget just to engineer a single chip. So they’re not going to invest in the small things; they’ll let niche players pick that up. Tampons though should be free. | |||
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"in my industry you cant get the needed software on apple so no choice but to have a pc, i spoke to one of the companies about it ant they told me its not worth the cost to develope the software for apple as they are more for the hobby user, not my words, not trying to start a argument, but this was the biggest maker of software in motorracing so they know the market It’s horses for course though, Windows takes the biggest slice of market share, Apple is niche in what it does, but does it brilliantly. I’ve worked in what’s called a “Hybrid” environment within the media industry, a mix of both Apple & Windows, and approx 90% of the software was cross compatible. I can’t imagine using Apple Mac’s in Motor racing, not with the required connectivity, something that Apple lacks unless you buy dongles. im not even sure if thats possable tbh, never seen an apple laptop in the paddok, must say something, maybe they have missed a trick there, as globaly there must be millions like me Well they would be more durable as they’re made out of milled aluminium, but it’s the price vs performance vs available software. I’ve never seen tuning software or sensor monitoring software written for MacOS. " you can get stong laptops but nobody buys them as crap and expensive, maybe the core os doesnt work well with the software on mac, i dont know, im not an it geek, but i know what works, ive got a big laptop, v powerfull for full ecu writing etc, and a lichtweight notebook for gen use like datalogging downloading dta from cars etc, the big one is over a decade ols ads its still fine, and can write to the latest stuff no problem. and the biggest issue is you need to have a serial port for historic f1 crs etc, and modern stuff doesnt have that. In my world old laptops that cn run old historic cars are fectching a premium now, often sold with the cars, as new stuff cant talk to them lol, funny how things change | |||
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"in my industry you cant get the needed software on apple so no choice but to have a pc, i spoke to one of the companies about it ant they told me its not worth the cost to develope the software for apple as they are more for the hobby user, not my words, not trying to start a argument, but this was the biggest maker of software in motorracing so they know the market That’s a niche software package in a very niche market. Makes complete sense. Their choice is solely baed on market share and the target market, like many niche areas tends to be PC only. Sadly no longer with the new AS Processors. But all Intel CPU macs can run Windows as well. Apple don’t make rugged (properly rugged) engineering laptops either which is a big reason for the dominance of Windows in those niche markets. There’s no need to argue - but it is worth realising that experience in one industry does not translate to exactly the same experience across the board. The market value of the entire motor racing industry software suppliers would be chicken feed compared to Apple’s budget just to engineer a single chip. So they’re not going to invest in the small things; they’ll let niche players pick that up. Tampons though should be free. " i compleatly agree, they made the software for the most used product, and in turn have increased the life of that product, as for tampons im a man so not bothered lol | |||
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"in my industry you cant get the needed software on apple so no choice but to have a pc, i spoke to one of the companies about it ant they told me its not worth the cost to develope the software for apple as they are more for the hobby user, not my words, not trying to start a argument, but this was the biggest maker of software in motorracing so they know the market It’s horses for course though, Windows takes the biggest slice of market share, Apple is niche in what it does, but does it brilliantly. I’ve worked in what’s called a “Hybrid” environment within the media industry, a mix of both Apple & Windows, and approx 90% of the software was cross compatible. I can’t imagine using Apple Mac’s in Motor racing, not with the required connectivity, something that Apple lacks unless you buy dongles. im not even sure if thats possable tbh, never seen an apple laptop in the paddok, must say something, maybe they have missed a trick there, as globaly there must be millions like me Well they would be more durable as they’re made out of milled aluminium, but it’s the price vs performance vs available software. I’ve never seen tuning software or sensor monitoring software written for MacOS. you can get stong laptops but nobody buys them as crap and expensive, maybe the core os doesnt work well with the software on mac, i dont know, im not an it geek, but i know what works, ive got a big laptop, v powerfull for full ecu writing etc, and a lichtweight notebook for gen use like datalogging downloading dta from cars etc, the big one is over a decade ols ads its still fine, and can write to the latest stuff no problem. and the biggest issue is you need to have a serial port for historic f1 crs etc, and modern stuff doesnt have that. In my world old laptops that cn run old historic cars are fectching a premium now, often sold with the cars, as new stuff cant talk to them lol, funny how things change" It is. The legacy kit in many industries will command a premium these days - if only for spare parts value! | |||
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"Robux. Hats off to the genius who's got all these parents working real jobs to buy virtual clothes and houses for wee virtual people! I feel your pain!! Glad I'm not the only sucker And blinking Fornite, season passes and blinking skins arghhh" Just say no, just like Zammo. | |||
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"in my industry you cant get the needed software on apple so no choice but to have a pc, i spoke to one of the companies about it ant they told me its not worth the cost to develope the software for apple as they are more for the hobby user, not my words, not trying to start a argument, but this was the biggest maker of software in motorracing so they know the market It’s horses for course though, Windows takes the biggest slice of market share, Apple is niche in what it does, but does it brilliantly. I’ve worked in what’s called a “Hybrid” environment within the media industry, a mix of both Apple & Windows, and approx 90% of the software was cross compatible. I can’t imagine using Apple Mac’s in Motor racing, not with the required connectivity, something that Apple lacks unless you buy dongles. im not even sure if thats possable tbh, never seen an apple laptop in the paddok, must say something, maybe they have missed a trick there, as globaly there must be millions like me Well they would be more durable as they’re made out of milled aluminium, but it’s the price vs performance vs available software. I’ve never seen tuning software or sensor monitoring software written for MacOS. you can get stong laptops but nobody buys them as crap and expensive, maybe the core os doesnt work well with the software on mac, i dont know, im not an it geek, but i know what works, ive got a big laptop, v powerfull for full ecu writing etc, and a lichtweight notebook for gen use like datalogging downloading dta from cars etc, the big one is over a decade ols ads its still fine, and can write to the latest stuff no problem. and the biggest issue is you need to have a serial port for historic f1 crs etc, and modern stuff doesnt have that. In my world old laptops that cn run old historic cars are fectching a premium now, often sold with the cars, as new stuff cant talk to them lol, funny how things change" Always the way though with tech. Working in the Cyber-Security field I always find companies with huuuuge amounts of technical “debt” (older pieces of equipment) simply because the cost vs risk of replacing or buying newer software is prohibitive. It truly is a never ending circle. | |||
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