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Things women say that I don't believe anymore (Am I too cynical)

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol)

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

Why focus on all the negatives all the time ?

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

Then maybe you need to consider your selection process..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’ve had number 10 a few times when I was in my 20’s only to then find out a week later they were dating someone else. Just felt I was getting played

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can’t make a sweeping generalisation like that. Women all do some/all/none, we’re all different.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can’t make a sweeping generalisation like that. Women all do some/all/none, we’re all different."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wonder how you can conclude the majority of women are like this? bad experiences? poor choices?

A lot of those things you list arent exactly gender specific are they? ... or are men absolutely 100% honest?

If thats what you truly believe im suprised your even looking for women

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By *orthern StarsCouple over a year ago

Durham

I agree with number 2. I think I say it to ease my conscience, but then will go ahead and have sex on a first date.

Mrs

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x"

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

Me too. The thought makes me want to vomit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

My thoughts exactly... but about my own foof haha

NBVN x

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"You can’t make a sweeping generalisation like that. Women all do some/all/none, we’re all different."

But we must always male sweeping generalisations about gender, race and everything else in-between

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

Me too. The thought makes me want to vomit

It's literally made me shudder that thought has

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"You can’t make a sweeping generalisation like that. Women all do some/all/none, we’re all different.

But we must always male sweeping generalisations about gender, race and everything else in-between "

The only sweeping statement I make is I am awesome and everyone else is less so!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not just women who say these things (I'm guessing you're hinting at they're lying)...men do it too ya know

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By *asilyled1Man over a year ago

ogmore valley

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

Can I have it if you do please!?

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"You can’t make a sweeping generalisation like that. Women all do some/all/none, we’re all different.

But we must always male sweeping generalisations about gender, race and everything else in-between

The only sweeping statement I make is I am awesome and everyone else is less so!"

You are of course welcome to think you're more awesome than me. But I'll challenge you to a thumb war to prove who is the most awesome

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

Depends on the relationship between them, when my ex cheated on me and went to stay with another guy for a week i saw them kiss on livestream. With the amount of lying she did i couldnt trust her word

2) I don't have sex on the first date

This is more believable in that they say it but dont necessarily mean it 100%. Its quite possible they can get swept up in the moment and end up having sex

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

Also quite believable in that theyre lying to themselves and ither ppl, yes hes a nice guy, but the added bonuses are why she is with him not a nicer guy who couldnt provide the extra bonuses

4) Size does matter

Cant really say on this one

5) Height doesn't matter

No i dont believe it matters (at least for the vast majority)

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

Again its likely, looks are important for attraction just as much as personality. Even if a guy who is very physically unattractive, it wouldnt matter how happy he can make a woman, she needs that physical attraction too

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

I would for the most part believe them, only a few i believe would lie so they dont look like "sluts"

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

It depends on whats gone on between them. It might be innocent, it might not, you cant be too sure to jump to conclusions

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

For the vast majority i would believe them, again goes back to their relationship with each other, past experiences, reasons for why they broke up in the first place etc.

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Quite common and also very much a lie in some cases. Plenty guys have said they were told this only to see the girl get into a relationship soon after. Reasons for saying this, playing the field, dont wanna let the guy down by being truthful, and/or dont wanna say cos they dont wanna feel bad for being honest

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By *yrdsisWoman over a year ago

Gleam Street

I can't relate to any of them

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"You can’t make a sweeping generalisation like that. Women all do some/all/none, we’re all different."

I did say this doesn't apply to all women but it might be a slight majority, I do think it's a slight majority at the very least.

Also I did say it was slightly controversial but I appreciate your comment, and I might be too cynical like I said. Not saying I'm correct, just giving my opinion and trying to figure out of there's a consensus xx

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

Can I have it if you do please!?

You're first in line if I ever decide to rip my vagina out

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By *nitterWoman over a year ago

the land of tall tales and yarn

Can you make a list of the things you do still believe,

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Why focus on all the negatives all the time ?"

I actually posted 2 positive things today lol

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By *adyBugsWoman over a year ago

cognito

I’ve never said any of those things. Maybe I’m a man?

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By *asilyled1Man over a year ago

ogmore valley

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

Can I have it if you do please!?

You're first in line if I ever decide to rip my vagina out

You spoil me!

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Can you make a list of the things you do still believe,"

That's along the line I was thinking. Negativity breeds negativity. Often dwells on the negatives of women and the site.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

This is more believable in that they say it but dont necessarily mean it 100%. Its quite possible they can get swept up in the moment and end up having sex

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

Also quite believable in that theyre lying to themselves and ither ppl, yes hes a nice guy, but the added bonuses are why she is with him not a nicer guy who couldnt provide the extra bonuses

4) Size does matter

Cant really say on this one

5) Height doesn't matter

No i dont believe it matters (at least for the vast majority)

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

I would for the most part believe them, only a few i believe would lie so they dont look like "sluts"

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

It depends on whats gone on between them. It might be innocent, it might not, you cant be too sure to jump to conclusions

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

For the vast majority i would believe them, again goes back to their relationship with each other, past experiences, reasons for why they broke up in the first place etc.

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Yup

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Can you make a list of the things you do still believe,

That's along the line I was thinking. Negativity breeds negativity. Often dwells on the negatives of women and the site."

Did you not see the positive posts I made earlier

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

Can I have it if you do please!?

You're first in line if I ever decide to rip my vagina out

You spoil me!

I know right?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why focus on all the negatives all the time ?"

I agree negative fibes are you so last year!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

And please bear in mind and I reiterate again. Not all women say these things or lie about it and maybe my experiences with women or the type of women I look for have made me believe this but these are also a compilation of things I've observed and stories other guys have told me as well.

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By *dd_soxMan over a year ago

Suffolk

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol) "

This equally applies to men...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol) "

Bit of a generalisation some of the above does not apply to single ladies for example.

The site gets more bizarre by the hour.

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By *yrdsisWoman over a year ago

Gleam Street

All of the above could be applied to gents too..

Except I'm no quite yet that cynical

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why focus on all the negatives all the time ?

I agree negative fibes are you so last year!"

* so last year

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol)

Bit of a generalisation some of the above does not apply to single ladies for example.

The site gets more bizarre by the hour."

I never said everything applies to single women. Just said these are things women (in different scenarios) say to guys and I might be too cynical but I don't really believe it when a woman says these things. Never did the post say all these 10 things apply to single women (face palm)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"All of the above could be applied to gents too..

Except I'm no quite yet that cynical

Fair enough and I can't really argue their except with the height and size ones though. But I have friendzoned women in the past by saying I was focused on my career etc, which I was but I also wasn't interested in them like that either xx

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

you believe what you believe, I doubt anyone on here could change your mind.

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I think it is a shame you're so cynical and are making the sweeping generalisation that you don't believe these things when you're told them.

I also think you're being unfair by tarring the majority with the same brush.

Try getting to know individual ladies maybe before allowing your past experience to make decisions for you?

Just a thought.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Number 4 rings very true for me. When I’ve used vanilla dating sites that don’t allow me to post naked pictures on my profile I’ve had many occasions when a woman has told me that size doesn’t matter but has gone on to lose interest almost immediately when I either tell her or show her exactly how tiny my cock is.

I’m not saying it’s true for every woman, as I’ve spoken to and met some women for who size genuinely doesn’t matter, but in my experience it does matter for the majority of women I’ve spoken to and I’d prefer them to be upfront about it from the start.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman over a year ago

Wirral.

Jesus Christ

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By *rispyDuckMan over a year ago

Chinese Takeaway near you

My guy's been watching 'Kevin Samuals' too ayy lol

I think its good to be 'a little cynical' otherwise you'll be the opposite 'gullible'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol)

Bit of a generalisation some of the above does not apply to single ladies for example.

The site gets more bizarre by the hour.

I just don’t understand where you are coming from on this. You list 10 random statements and apply them to women?

How utterly bizarre!

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By *orraine999Woman over a year ago

Somewhere

I love sweeping sweeping generalizations threads…

I wish you the best of luck OP in your quest for a perfect woman.

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By *moothdickMan over a year ago

stoke

Well said op..

All different but had quite a few of the points happen to me ..

Always say, can or have to live with the truth, but lies and players ? No. To much self ego, on their behalf

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Number 9 is the truth surely

NBVN x

Bloody is in my case, think I'd rather rip my own vagina out than go there again

Spat out my drink at that!

I feel the same

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I love sweeping sweeping generalizations threads…

I wish you the best of luck OP in your quest for a perfect woman.

Nah I'm done lol, (hence why I'm back on fab) I just want some sex with some hot women without having to open up emotionally for the next 6-9 months minimum. I have a very high sex drive so have needs that have to be met xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Well said op..

All different but had quite a few of the points happen to me ..

Always say, can or have to live with the truth, but lies and players ? No. To much self ego, on their behalf

Thanks and tbh the amount of stories I have and these aren't about women who wronged me but women who cheated on other guys with me.

I've sene first hand a girl txt a guy friend after she left the club with me, had sex by my place and the guy was worried about her was texting asking her if she had gone home with me and she said no, we just shared an Uber. Guy was relieved and started pouring out his feelings to the girl and she showed me the txt, shook her head and started feeling up my dick through my jeans before telling me " I think it's time you fucked me"

Not to mention the time I told off a girl in a Club for flirting with me and walking up to me and then saying she couldn't give me her number she had a boyfriend (later found out it was a fiancee) and 30 mins after she was giving me a blowjob (which I didn't even ask for, she asked to see a pic of my dick, claiming she hadn't had a black guy in so long, saw the pic and them 5 mins after she asked me "do you want a blowjob") her fiancee was calling her while her mouth was on my cock, after the 3rd missed call, because we were in alley way and the ringing was drawing attention I asked her "are you going to answer that" and she said "not at all. I'm enjoying this way too much." I took her phone amd turned it off. After she sucked me off, I fucked her.

Or this time when I was invited to a little get get together, it was me another guy and 3 women. The person who invited me I was just chatting with her on insta ams she was married and I wasn't trying to flirt with her or anything f and things just got hot and steamy and her husband who was not in the country at the time, was calling her to wish her happy birthday, and I was feeling her up but she had the phone at an angle so that he couldn't see me.

Plus there was the time when a girl canceled a date on me saying she was sick and her female friend (she specifically said that in the text) was coming over to take care of her. Me being this naive guy from from the Caribbean was sending her some funny/naughty and inspiring memes on a daily basis to cheer her up. After the 4th day she told me it was really her ex who was with her, and that they made back up and she's sorry and I'm such a nice guy and that she's sorry for disappointing me etc. I handled it well and moved on.

So yea and this is only a snippet of stories I have about women a I could even add that 2 of my exes (back in the Caribbean) cheated on me and the first thing they said was, it was just a kiss nothing else happened, found out the truth 2 months later on one occasion and 1 year later on the other one.

And to tell you how toxic that relationship was the one who told me the truth 2 months later. Actually tried to make it appear that the guy forced himself on her, this was a few weeks after admitted to the cheating but I got all the details from her when she admitted it (guys always get all the details the first time on case they change their story) and things just weren't adding up. Then she admitted in tears a couple days later (because I had blocked her on everything) that the guy she cheated on me with fyi he was much richer than me, just used her for sex, so she came back to me and thought she could get me to feel sorry for her by making it seem he forced sex with her.

So yes I'll be the first to admit I can be cynical but all I'm saying is I have some good reasons for being that way.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love sweeping sweeping generalizations threads…

I wish you the best of luck OP in your quest for a perfect woman.

It’s a well known fact that the best way to go about attracting hot women to have sex with you is by basically calling the majority of them liars and making a derogatory and offensive list of all the ways you think they lie, so I’m sure they’ll be lining up for you.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman over a year ago

Wirral.

"I love sweeping sweeping generalizations threads…

I wish you the best of luck OP in your quest for a perfect woman.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol) "

You’re 6’1” and you have a big dick, I can’t imagine you’ve ever been rejected for being too short or for not having a big enough dick so what experience do you have of women saying height or size doesn’t matter and it not being true?

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By *ucka39Man over a year ago

Newcastle

I prefer the it just happened like it isn't their fault

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol)

I never said women told me all these things lol. I'm just saying these are stuff women normally tell guys. But when I hear them say it whether to me or in conversation for example a girl might say to me size doesn't matter but then she might say well if is 3 inches then ... or she might say in conversation height doesn't matter but all her exes were over 6 feet tall.

So while some of them women might have told me either directly or just in conversation about the topic my first inclination is not to believe what they're saying and I know it's bad but just being honest about my past experiences.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well said op..

All different but had quite a few of the points happen to me ..

Always say, can or have to live with the truth, but lies and players ? No. To much self ego, on their behalf

Thanks and tbh the amount of stories I have and these aren't about women who wronged me but women who cheated on other guys with me.

So yes I'll be the first to admit I can be cynical but all I'm saying is I have some good reasons for being that way.

Have you ever considered that you’re just associating with woman who have no morals and just because a few women behave like that it doesn’t mean the majority are the same? I have a fair few female friends and relatives and I’ve never known any of them behave in that way.

Have you ever heard of racial profiling? It’s terrible and wrong but happens a lot, what you’re doing is just another form of that, you’re assuming all women behave in the same way that you’ve witnessed a very small percentage of women behave rather than judging them all as individuals.

I’ve met a few fans of the football team that i support who are proper football hooligans, real thugs who love violence and will fight anyone just for fun. Does that mean i should assume that the majority of fans of my football team are hooligans?

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By *urls and DressesWoman over a year ago

Somewhere near here

U ok hun?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Well said op..

All different but had quite a few of the points happen to me ..

Always say, can or have to live with the truth, but lies and players ? No. To much self ego, on their behalf

Thanks and tbh the amount of stories I have and these aren't about women who wronged me but women who cheated on other guys with me.

So yes I'll be the first to admit I can be cynical but all I'm saying is I have some good reasons for being that way.

The key word you said is you met a "few" in my case I've met and interacted with a lot women since coming to the UK. About 3 months ago I said I was taking a fresh start, clearing out my address book from all the women I interacted with via fab/ Tinder/real life/ ONS etc, some ended up ok sex, some didn't, I deleted just about 250 phone numbers (in 2 years) so again you met a few, I've met and interacted with a lot.

As for the morals part the woman who lied about being assaulted, because she wanted me to feel sorry for her and give her another chance. She is a devout Catholic and struggled to date me initially because I was an atheist.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"U ok hun?"
I'm good now thanks, xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol)

Why are you saying it if you know it’s bad to say? You clearly know you shouldn’t say it because you have said it’s controversial and you’re expecting angry replies.

I’m sure I’ve said something similar to this to you before, and I’m going to say it again, imagine how you’d feel if someone posted a list of all the things that black men say that they don’t believe, just like you’ve done for women. I’m guessing you wouldn’t be ok with that so why do you think it’s ok to do it about women?

Everyone should be judged on their own merits and failings not on their sex, race or religion.

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By *lectrumMan over a year ago

south shields

You forgot

No 11 no body has made me cum like that before

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well said op..

All different but had quite a few of the points happen to me ..

Always say, can or have to live with the truth, but lies and players ? No. To much self ego, on their behalf

Thanks and tbh the amount of stories I have and these aren't about women who wronged me but women who cheated on other guys with me.

So yes I'll be the first to admit I can be cynical but all I'm saying is I have some good reasons for being that way.

In terms of percentages, I’d say I’ve met a higher percentage of fans of my team than you have UK women so my survey is actually more accurate.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Allllllllll of this makes me and us grateful that dating is not a thing we need to worry about and we can very much take or leave any "extras". Far too much drama and shite for my liking

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Allllllllll of this makes me and us grateful that dating is not a thing we need to worry about and we can very much take or leave any "extras". Far too much drama and shite for my liking

Well, according to OP, the majority of women are cheating on their partner because he’s had sex with some women who have been in relationships so if the male of the couple has posted that then your partner is probably dating men behind your back and getting ‘extras’ without telling you and if the female of the couple has posted that then you’re probably lying and you’re getting plenty of ‘extras’ behind your partner’s back....

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Allllllllll of this makes me and us grateful that dating is not a thing we need to worry about and we can very much take or leave any "extras". Far too much drama and shite for my liking

And if I'm Schrödinger's KC?!

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

A slight majority?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A slight majority?"

Well it would have been disrespectful and probably inaccurate to just say a minority, he was being fair and considerate by saying just a slight minority

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By *uriousscouserWoman over a year ago

Wirral

It's brilliant that we women are one homogeneous mass of vagina, that such rules apply across the board.

Well done you for the discovery OP, must make life so much easier for you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All smokescreen talk.

Observe what they actually do.

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

wokingham

In short, judge people by actions not words

People in general say all kinds of shit and give terrible advice and have no idea what that really want. Their words aren’t always lies, it’s just hard to tell the truth when you don’t know what it is. Verbal diarrhoea + uncertainty makes the best of us look like liars

Ignore their words, react to their actions. You’ll have a much easier time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Reconsider who you date or are around? if you believe all or most women you’re around lie to you like that you’re part of your own problem for continuously selecting that sort of personality, it’s a bit easy to just shove that majority of women surely.

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By *illibethWoman over a year ago

Midlands and North Wales

I think unfortunately you may be speaking to the wrong women, as I have often spoken to the wrong men.

I just don't lie (which most people don't believe) and can mean that honesty can also be a bit harsh.

I did stop saying number 2 as I kept accidentally fibbing!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's brilliant that we women are one homogeneous mass of vagina, that such rules apply across the board.

Well done you for the discovery OP, must make life so much easier for you

What a quality research!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can’t help feeling this reads like a ‘hey look at me’ post as I’ve thought with some of your other threads. I’m wondering what you’re trying to achieve in this entire thread.

Sweeping statements and bragging posts might draw attention to your profile but I wonder how many people will think ‘this is a guy I want to know/fuck.’

Personally threads and posts like this help me as to the no thanks list. But hey we can’t all appeal to everyone. This place would be dull if we were all the same.

Good luck in your Fab quest OP.

All different but had quite a few of the points happen to me ..

Always say, can or have to live with the truth, but lies and players ? No. To much self ego, on their behalf

Thanks and tbh the amount of stories I have and these aren't about women who wronged me but women who cheated on other guys with me.

So yes I'll be the first to admit I can be cynical but all I'm saying is I have some good reasons for being that way.

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By *ea monkeyMan over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

If this is a thread aimed at pointing out the fallacies in making judgements about people based on broad groups and limited experiences, then it’s an interesting point.

Lots of people make judgements based on interactions with a small group.

I really don’t know how many times I’ve read that couples won’t meet guys based around the actions of one or two, how many people won’t meet Asians or other groups of people for the same reasons.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Seen a like you've got some hang ups with women who gave exes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Allllllllll of this makes me and us grateful that dating is not a thing we need to worry about and we can very much take or leave any "extras". Far too much drama and shite for my liking

And if I'm Schrödinger's KC?!

Are we still talking about women that tell the odd porky or Schrodingers cat

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By *a LunaWoman over a year ago

South Wales

Got to take a leap of faith sometimes. Not everybody is out to hurt you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship "

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question? "

In that past when I have dated the question has come up

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

I think many of the statements are just sugar coating and more harsh fact that they're not into the person.

So do not worry and try and look for people who are positive towards you

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By *odgerMooreMan over a year ago

Nowhere

I remember being really into a girl when i was in my 20’s and she was about 5 or so years older and she gave me the ‘ im not really looking to date - you’re lovely but not my type!’ Which is absolutely fine - a few months went by and I played the venue with my band and all of a sudden - I WAS her type!! Because I was getting attention from other girls - my question to the panel is What’s that all about?

oh and to make it worse I definitely could have finally got in her pants but said no because I wanted her to know she couldn’t just change her mind just like that and expect me to just say oh ok!! On a scale of 1-10 how stupid was I??

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question? "

Has it. I've seen it asked in threads on here and answered. Do people ask the people they meet via fab? We never have or been asked

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I remember being really into a girl when i was in my 20’s and she was about 5 or so years older and she gave me the ‘ im not really looking to date - you’re lovely but not my type!’ Which is absolutely fine - a few months went by and I played the venue with my band and all of a sudden - I WAS her type!! Because I was getting attention from other girls - my question to the panel is What’s that all about?

Was it because you were getting attention from other women or because you looked really attractive up on stage?

You weren't stupid though. So 0/10

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By *lee cuckold coupleCouple over a year ago

Cleethorpes

Women are alright but you can't beat the real thing......

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By *assConductorMan over a year ago

the wild

OP, it's unfair to lay the baggage of your past experiences on new people you meet.

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By *ust PeachyWoman over a year ago

Prestonish

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol) "

So - the reasons:

1) - Double standards - women are still expected to be ‘purer’ than men and are harshly judged if they are promiscuous. Hence to avoid harsh judgment we’re essentially forced to lie to protect our ‘reputation’!

2) See the answer above.

3) Not admirable - but there’s still a substantial wage gap between *most men and women. Men are more likely to have better jobs and more money than the majority of women - particularly if the woman is a single parent who previously spent a decade or more caring for the home and children whilst her partner was free to develop his career/business. This happens in many, many relationships.

4) To some it does - to some it doesn’t.

5) Same as answer 4.

6) Women are condemned as ‘fickle’ and ‘shallow’ if they are looks centric. We are expected to be ethereal beings who value only goodness and virtue in a man.

Actually - we’re genetically wired to ‘hunt’ for the best guy we can get - as in a good potential provider, protector and a healthy specimen to reproduce with. Ergo those factors- when looking for a relationship rather than a fab meet - override good looks alone.

7) See response to answer 1.

8) see response to answer 1 - also this applies to both sexes equally I’d imagine.

9) - see response to answer 8.

10) - We’re trying to be nice. We figure your ego would rather hear that than ‘I want a relationship but not with you!’

There - I think that covers everything.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Gosh they really want YOU!

What's the problem

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol) "

Men also say a lot of these things, you're not the only person to get continuously lied to. People in general are shit.

A lot of your threads are incredibly pessimistic though... Not gonna lie it's quite tiring.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a father of 4 girls i remember one as a teenager moaning about how much her hair had cost her. like a good father i stepped in to help out with a 'why dont you use the same hairdresser as your mum its only £15". Cue a red faced mother and 4 hysterical girls ... yup id been had and me men have an inate ability to be dense.

Some white lies are acceptable and sometimes we men arent prepared for the 100% truth .... particularly when outnumbered 5-1

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Men and women lie to each other.

Who knew!?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"As a father of 4 girls i remember one as a teenager moaning about how much her hair had cost her. like a good father i stepped in to help out with a 'why dont you use the same hairdresser as your mum its only £15". Cue a red faced mother and 4 hysterical girls ... yup id been had and me men have an inate ability to be dense.

Some white lies are acceptable and sometimes we men arent prepared for the 100% truth .... particularly when outnumbered 5-1"

Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol)

Men also say a lot of these things, you're not the only person to get continuously lied to. People in general are shit.

A lot of your threads are incredibly pessimistic though... Not gonna lie it's quite tiring. "

I'm realistic about the world we live in tbh

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By *abs..Woman over a year ago

Some women will lie about some of those things. That’s life

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Gosh they really want YOU!

What's the problem

I'm not saying there's a problem and I like the attention etc, I'm just actually don't bother, I'm just here having some fun lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"OP, it's unfair to lay the baggage of your past experiences on new people you meet. "

You see that's the slippery slope, if you see signs that are parallel to things you experienced in the past do you ignore it and allow yourself to willfully be duped again.

For me I'm just trying to not get emotionally attached for the next 9 mths, just fun as I invest more time in my 2 careers

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This might be controversial but these are just a few things women say that I don't believe anymore. Some of these I stopped believing when I was back in the Caribbean.

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened.

2) I don't have sex on the first date

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter

5) Height doesn't matter

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number)

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s)

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm.

Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)

Don't all try to rush and bite off my head at the same time (and guys I'm looking for a little back up here, even if you risk putting yourself in the firing line)

So am I being too cynical, are any of these true?

Comments, angry messages etc are welcome (just don't make it too personal lol)

So - the reasons:

2) See the answer above.

4) To some it does - to some it doesn’t.

5) Same as answer 4.

6) Women are condemned as ‘fickle’ and ‘shallow’ if they are looks centric. We are expected to be ethereal beings who value only goodness and virtue in a man.

7) See response to answer 1.

8) see response to answer 1 - also this applies to both sexes equally I’d imagine.

9) - see response to answer 8.

10) - We’re trying to be nice. We figure your ego would rather hear that than ‘I want a relationship but not with you!’

There - I think that covers everything.

Thanks I liked this response. I think I posted something similar on a thread a week or so ago when it came to the psychology of women and why they're more likely to mate with tall guys, good looking guys they want genetic traits to pass on to their kids, be in a financially secure relationship. So yea I get all of that and not complaining tbh, just saying that I understand the reasons for women behaviour a lot more now than I did 5 years ago for instance. Hence I know when a woman is lying but more importantly the reason why she is lying

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

You did the right thing and trust me I know a about that. I always say the guys at tbe top of the dating pyramid have one of 3 factors

Looks

Money

Status

If you just have looks, you'll get a lot of sex but women may not see you as long term. Money gets you long term but if it's not accompanied with looks, chances are she might be using you for security and to help raise her kids.

Status same thing applies and yes don't be fooled women always want a guy they see other women are attracted to it's called fomo-fear of missing out, they want to be with the guy others want, it's a boost for their egos among other things

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think a lof of you have been too harsh on dreads and berating and demonising him for his wording when describing his opinions from past experiences.

Ive seen numerous threads where men get generalised for their behaviour but have seen little in the way of support for men, and see more comments being made as an echo chamber, often threads and comments made by women. And when someone speaks up in support of other men, the other participants of the thread go in defence of the OP and women, participants who are either women or "allied" men.

I say, dont judge dreads too harshly for his words if you do not wish to be judged equally for any opinions you may have. This is an open forum for discussion and sharing of ideas and opinions, but i feel theres less sharing and attempts of understanding and more berating going on in this thread. Picking apart what dreads has said, despite his own experiences in life, simply to feed some sense of moral egotism.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question? "

To be honest I have gotten asked the question here from women a few times (these were women who were really into me and I'll be honest, I did lie, some caught me in it and were like (insert my mame) stop lying, you know you've been with more women than that) back home I got asked that question a lot.

As a firm rule I don't ask women that question anymore, their past is their past, and that doesn't concern me tbh

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think a lof of you have been too harsh on dreads and berating and demonising him for his wording when describing his opinions from past experiences.

Thanks bruv. I just wanted to stir a healthy debate and while I know the answer as to why some women say these things I was hoping other knew it as well and could even provide some new insight I might not have been aware of.

But it's cool I'm accustomed to being attacked virtually and in person, people being envious of me. People thinking my dating profiles are fake because how can I be good looking, never smoked, never done drugs, love art and the opera, be a bestselling poet and author, yet be an amateur Astrophysicist.

So I get it. I'm weird, I don't quite fit the mould people want to put me into (I never have) and that makes ppl uncomfortable because they can't quite understand me and can't predict what I'll do next.

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"If this is a thread aimed at pointing out the fallacies in making judgements about people based on broad groups and limited experiences, then it’s an interesting point.

Lots of people make judgements based on interactions with a small group.

Well said and a very interesting point.

Most people do the same thing, judge a minority based on the limited interaction they've had with them

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I can’t help feeling this reads like a ‘hey look at me’ post as I’ve thought with some of your other threads. I’m wondering what you’re trying to achieve in this entire thread.

Sweeping statements and bragging posts might draw attention to your profile but I wonder how many people will think ‘this is a guy I want to know/fuck.’

Personally threads and posts like this help me as to the no thanks list. But hey we can’t all appeal to everyone. This place would be dull if we were all the same.

Good luck in your Fab quest OP.

All different but had quite a few of the points happen to me ..

Always say, can or have to live with the truth, but lies and players ? No. To much self ego, on their behalf

Thanks and tbh the amount of stories I have and these aren't about women who wronged me but women who cheated on other guys with me.

So yes I'll be the first to admit I can be cynical but all I'm saying is I have some good reasons for being that way.

Lol this is not a look at me post, I posted harmful things done to me and also being a part of the problem in other relationships via infedility.

I don't have a fab quest per se, I'm just chilling. Not big on a lot of attention, hence why my bio has what I'm looking for in a woman because I don't want every woman messaging me. Also yes this gives an insight into my personality and I'm ok with it rubbing people the wrong way because I'm not everyone's cuppa tea.

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

Just wondering and this a genuine question. What percentage of all women on the planet do you believe adhere to your bullet points?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thanks bruv. I just wanted to stir a healthy debate and while I know the answer as to why some women say these things I was hoping other knew it as well and could even provide some new insight I might not have been aware of.

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

I dont believe its cos youre weird and i know weird given how fucking weird i can be too. I feel its more likely to do with you throwing out controversial subjects and usually when it comes to those subjects ppl will instinctively bundle together in their camps and throw out opinions of others cos thats easy to do.

Its hard for ppl to let go of their ideals and beliefs and try to view things objectively, which is why its more common to see personal opinions given, often of the OP who introduced the topic of discussion, than ppl asking questions as to why you think and feel that way, to be better understand what youre saying.

Its even harder still for ppl to be objective in a discussion cos the notion of trying to understand the other persons experiences and points of view might suggest to them that theyre wrong in their initial opinion, and ppl hate being wrong, at least for the vast majority of ppl. Its so common in human psychology especially in modern times with access to social media and such. Its why we have more divide among society than acceptance and tolerance.

I also find it unpleasant to see ppl berate you and say that your opinions will exclude you from having any success on the site. Thats absolutely not true as ive spoken with others myself who actually like to see other ppl with conflicting opinions and maintaining their integrity, despite how much hate they may receive for a particular opinion.

And its a lack of maturity to behave in such a way as to say "your opinion is wrong cos it conflicts with ours so no sex for you". Given how much ppl talk about acceptance of each others opinions and preferences and the like, youd think the majority of us would be above making such comments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Gosh they really want YOU!

What's the problem

I'm not saying there's a problem and I like the attention etc, I'm just actually don't bother, I'm just here having some fun lol xx"

Tongue in cheek dear

apparently

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

Which is ok it's his judgement and his opinion. Now a few of us have said we wouldn't touch the father of our kid's with a bargepole. Genuinely I would rather rip out my vagina than go there. If it was a discussion about the points maybe a question would have been asked why is that? In my case it's down to domestic and sexual abuse. So yeah it is a tad hard to be objective, but I also don't see any objectiveness or trying to understand my perspective from the OP.

But yes I agree, people should be less judgemental and should try and have a balanced discussion on different subjects on here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

But yes I agree, people should be less judgemental and should try and have a balanced discussion on different subjects on here. "

One of my intentions from this post was to get feedback from men and women. Men who would give stories supporting some of this and women giving reasons (whether guys can handle it or not) for why sometimes they sat the things they do.

At least this wasn't as bad as the time I asked the question "should guys bring flowers on the first date' which led to women literally attacking me on the post (at that time I used to bring flowers kn the first date, because I was a bit of an old school romantic, and I thought even of she's going through a rough day, she can at least have some flowers to cheer her up) but my words got horribly misconstrued lop, but that's life lol

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

But yes I agree, people should be less judgemental and should try and have a balanced discussion on different subjects on here.

So you only wanted opinions that supported your viewpoints and not others? Then why ask if you are cynical or not?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I haven't read any comments but so what if they are true?

It has no bearing on your life so why get hung up on it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

Not everyone is an expert linguist, everyone makes mistakes in how they word things and nobody can expect everyone to spend ages proofreading and editing to avoid loopholes or slipups in their wording that can be taken out of context or picked apart

It takes a level of interpretation for the readers to understand what the OP is asking or proposing as the topic of discussion. A lot of what Dreads has said has been taken at face value and picked apart. That being said not everyone can be expected to be understand the intent of the OP and know exactly what hes looking for in the discussion, but it helps if at least someone is able to make it clearer for others where the OP has failed to do so, so that everyone can understand the discussion better and contribute in a more meaningful way rather than turning it into a witch hunt

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

Sorry I'm confused by your reply and hence I cannot answer.

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By *sBlueWoman over a year ago

Up North

"You can’t make a sweeping generalisation like that. Women all do some/all/none, we’re all different.

I did say this doesn't apply to all women but it might be a slight majority, I do think it's a slight majority at the very least.

Of course your not correct. Far from it actually

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

Lol I wasn't even aware ppl said I wouldn't be successful on this site because of my posts lol, news to me tbh, because since coming back on fab, I've seen an uptick in ever metric from msgs, to views, to winks, to fabs, so if I'm not having luck, it's news to me.

But I do get the point and why people like to cling together. I always believe in understanding another person's point of view, listen to understand not to reply. Also personally it helps strengthen my own arguments in the future because then I can deconstruct your argument and be better informed. It's why people back home can no longer debate something like gay rights to me because I know every angle they'll come at me from and have my counter arguments ready.

But like I've said, I've been off this site for 8 months now getting back into the swing of things (pun intended) so I'm calm lol.

Also the keeping your integrity part is very important to me. People no longer value who they are, they try to make themselves who others want them to be. I always say this, I'll be honest whether it is to my detriment or not, because your integrity who you are as a person should be more valuable than anything. Sometimes men will say anything to impress a woman and that's just not me, I have faults and flaws but I know I'm not a bad person and tbh most people when they meet me in public think I'm one of the nicest people they meet, because I'm kind, I'm generous and care about people much more than myself.

If I had to sum it up like this I'm Tony Stark/ Iron Man. I'm extremely intelligent (and I'm not afraid to say it or show it) and sometimes it can rob people the wrong way because it can come across as arrogance, being egotistical, etc. I have strong views but I do believe in listening to other parts of the conversation.

However I am the few people who will readily admit I will put on the Infinity gauntlet amd sacrifice my life to save others. For me the continuation of the human species is more important than any one life and I have no problem being the person to give up my life for this.

I actually think because of my strong will to make the world a better place through my books, my research into Astrophysics is the reason why I might be destined to be alone forever, it's something that has always been in the back of my head ever since I was a teenager because I know what it will take to achieve my goals and maybe family life isn't for me.

That's why I'm on fab. Like I told close friends and family, the next 9 months is about elevating my careers, however I do have a high sex drive and some toys I bought this year I'd love to use more often. Nsa fun, no feelings, no emotions, just raw passion amd animalistic sex to help balance off my body chemistry and be cool lol.

Yea I think that about covers it lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

Thats where the misinterpretation lies. The majority of ppl commenting have taken that as his solid opinion and belief, that all of the bullet points he listed, are things he completely believes to be true.

Without dreads wording his initial post in such a way to avoid misinterpretation, its allowed ppl to mistake the intent of the thread, and assume his beliefs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

I deffo agree with this is terms of helping people understand a topic rather than just picking it apart because you don't agree with it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love sweeping sweeping generalizations threads…

I wish you the best of luck OP in your quest for a perfect woman.

Hang on, your need have to be met? Why? What will happen if your sexual needs aren't met? Will you explode?

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

Without dreads wording his initial post in such a way to avoid misinterpretation, its allowed ppl to mistake the intent of the thread, and assume his beliefs."

Oh now I get where you are coming from. Ok well to me

"Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)"

Indicates that this is how he judges the behaviour of the majority of women. This may not have been his intention, why is why I asked what he thought the % were.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow...you sound so bitter. To be fair the comments can be applied to some men..not all.

Please don't apply all your negative experiences to the whole of the female population, we are not all the same.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

But yes I agree, people should be less judgemental and should try and have a balanced discussion on different subjects on here.

So you only wanted opinions that supported your viewpoints and not others? Then why ask if you are cynical or not? "

I never said anything about just wanting people to support my view. I just wanted an honest discussion about this and for people not to get caught up in their feelings.

The past couple of months I've had this conversation with women (up here and back home) and you know what the gener consensus was, yea women do lie about these things. However and this is actually backed by scientific research women are more likely to admit these things in a private setting than in a public setting i.e a forum like this. So I'm honestly not surprised by the reactions.

Take this for example if I'm so wrong why is it that most of the profiles I see from women amd couples on this site have these 3 things

Guys should be big VWE (especially girthy)

Guys need to be a minimum of 6 feet tall

Please send a face pic, as there must be an attraction.

If I'm so wrong then why do many of these profiles share these 3 common criteria for guys to have???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

Without dreads wording his initial post in such a way to avoid misinterpretation, its allowed ppl to mistake the intent of the thread, and assume his beliefs.

Oh now I get where you are coming from. Ok well to me

"Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)"

Indicates that this is how he judges the behaviour of the majority of women. This may not have been his intention, why is why I asked what he thought the % were. "

Thats based on his experiences with women, as others have mentioned, maybe the OP associates with the wrong women for him to come to this conclusion, but hes still asking for opinions from other women on the site to shed some light on this, given what he has experienced himself

But its not an invitation for ppl to feel insulted and berate the OP.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Very Carrie Bradshaw on here today

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Wow...you sound so bitter. To be fair the comments can be applied to some men..not all.

Please don't apply all your negative experiences to the whole of the female population, we are not all the same."

Never said the whole, I was very specific I said a majority, I even conceded and said it might be a slight majority. I'm not bitter lol. Like over said b4 and clearly I need to say it again at the risk of sounding egotistical. I honestly and truly don't have any problems getting women, and you'll never see me post something that suggests that. Like I've said I don't even approach women in public and I'm accustomed to women hitting on me any time I go out.

Not to belay a point but this post was to spark a discussion and conversation

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

But yes I agree, people should be less judgemental and should try and have a balanced discussion on different subjects on here.

So you only wanted opinions that supported your viewpoints and not others? Then why ask if you are cynical or not?

I never said anything about just wanting people to support my view. I just wanted an honest discussion about this and for people not to get caught up in their feelings.

Take this for example if I'm so wrong why is it that most of the profiles I see from women amd couples on this site have these 3 things

Guys should be big VWE (especially girthy)

Guys need to be a minimum of 6 feet tall

Please send a face pic, as there must be an attraction.

If I'm so wrong then why do many of these profiles share these 3 common criteria for guys to have???

Some do I don't disagree. But those are a biased view unless you look at men's profiles as much as you do females and couples. Even when we had profile info none of those things were in it.

I've never asked anyone for a face pic. I personally don't want a big cock and actually 6 foot is my mmax,which is Ms height my preference would be a couple of inches shorter, because I don't like being on tip toes to snog my bloke.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lol I wasn't even aware ppl said I wouldn't be successful on this site because of my posts lol, news to me tbh, because since coming back on fab, I've seen an uptick in ever metric from msgs, to views, to winks, to fabs, so if I'm not having luck, it's news to me.

There was a comment given (not pointing fingers), that was made in a sarcastic way, that youre not going to have much luck as a result of what you have said in the initial post and what you believe

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I love sweeping sweeping generalizations threads…

I wish you the best of luck OP in your quest for a perfect woman.

Hang on, your need have to be met? Why? What will happen if your sexual needs aren't met? Will you explode? "

Lol I have too much will power for that tbh.

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

"But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

Without dreads wording his initial post in such a way to avoid misinterpretation, its allowed ppl to mistake the intent of the thread, and assume his beliefs.

Oh now I get where you are coming from. Ok well to me

"Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)"

Indicates that this is how he judges the behaviour of the majority of women. This may not have been his intention, why is why I asked what he thought the % were.

But its not an invitation for ppl to feel insulted and berate the OP. "

I'm not insulted by the OP and I very much doubt the OP is by my comments. And neither am I berating him, I'm just questioning his viewpoint isn't that what a discussion is?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

There was a comment given (not pointing fingers), that was made in a sarcastic way, that youre not going to have much luck as a result of what you have said in the initial post and what you believe "

Lol well that flew over my head tbh and like I said "A brotha ain't lacking (if you know what I mean)" lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Take this for example if I'm so wrong why is it that most of the profiles I see from women amd couples on this site have these 3 things

Guys should be big VWE (especially girthy)

Guys need to be a minimum of 6 feet tall

Please send a face pic, as there must be an attraction.

If I'm so wrong then why do many of these profiles share these 3 common criteria for guys to have???

Please provide the reference to this scientific research.

Why are you strung up on peoples preferences? You really do try to show women in the worst light possible to make yourself feel better. It's really not a good look. Have you thought that the women sleeping with you being their partners backs are because you're gullible and easy?

Now, I'm not usually one to be so crass but I hope you can step back and see what you're doing. It's to try and make yourself look and feel better whilst putting others down.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

Without dreads wording his initial post in such a way to avoid misinterpretation, its allowed ppl to mistake the intent of the thread, and assume his beliefs.

Oh now I get where you are coming from. Ok well to me

"Now obviously this doesn't apply to all women, but I feel safe enough in saying this applies to a majority of women (however slight that majority may be)"

Indicates that this is how he judges the behaviour of the majority of women. This may not have been his intention, why is why I asked what he thought the % were.

But its not an invitation for ppl to feel insulted and berate the OP.

I'm not insulted by the OP and I very much doubt the OP is by my comments. And neither am I berating him, I'm just questioning his viewpoint isn't that what a discussion is? "

I didnt say you were insulted, many of the responses from other fabbers are coming from a position of feeling insulted

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By *ancer36Woman over a year ago

Stirling

1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened- quite possibly true not all kissing leads to sex

2) I don't have sex on the first date - I’d say this is flexible statement there are those meets where chemistry just takes over - so as a majority it’s likely to be true however there will be the odd occasion where inhibitions are lost

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

I don’t see what material things have to do with liking someone, some men enjoy treating woman, some woman enjoy treating men - there’s nothing wrong with that - just because someone spoils there partner doesn’t mean they don’t find them attractive for other reasons - this is a cynical statement in my opinion

4) Size does matter - true for some

5) Height doesn't matter - this is a preference - for some it’s an issue for some it’s not

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks - Probably a lie, there needs to be a physical attraction for anything sexual in my opinion

7) I've only been with x number of guys (always a very low number) - so what if it’s a low number, so what if it’s a lie - we don’t need to know this information, we all have a past it has no bearing on your connection to someone new

8) My ex just dropped me home, visited me, etc, nothing happened - depends on the relationship with the ex, if you are aware he is still part of there life’s in some way, people can remain friends after a breakup

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s) - I’d say this is a true statement why lie about that ?

10) I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I'm figuring out my life atm. - said it myself and meant it, sometimes woman just want fun and sometimes they just want to focus on themselves - nothing wrong with either

Live and let live OP - were all different, however if you go looking for a negative your likely to find one, don’t let the past effect the possibilities of the future

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So what you're saying is: from your past experience, no matter the number of people- could be from 1 upwards, that you have notice this is how they think or choose men on.

Am I right in thinking that people can choose who they go with, it's freedom of speech, and just because x amount of people may think like that , you can't categories all people into this way of thinking. It's just may be the people you have come across think like this but no matter what number of people that may be , you have noticed they may ask the same sort of questions or act in the same sort of way. The answer-everyone's entitled to an opinion and freedom of speech therefore everyone has a right to choose who they do or don't go with and any consensual activities.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"1) I only kissed him, nothing else happened- quite possibly true not all kissing leads to sex

3) I really like his personality (even though said guy is pretty rich and takes them on trips all over the world)

4) Size does matter - true for some

5) Height doesn't matter - this is a preference - for some it’s an issue for some it’s not

6) I like guys for their personality not their looks - Probably a lie, there needs to be a physical attraction for anything sexual in my opinion

9) I no longer sleep with the father of my kid(s) - I’d say this is a true statement why lie about that ?

Live and let live OP - were all different, however if you go looking for a negative your likely to find one, don’t let the past effect the possibilities of the future

xx"

Bravo and spot on

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Take this for example if I'm so wrong why is it that most of the profiles I see from women amd couples on this site have these 3 things

Guys should be big VWE (especially girthy)

Guys need to be a minimum of 6 feet tall

Please send a face pic, as there must be an attraction.

If I'm so wrong then why do many of these profiles share these 3 common criteria for guys to have???

Please provide the reference to this scientific research.

Now, I'm not usually one to be so crass but I hope you can step back and see what you're doing. It's to try and make yourself look and feel better whilst putting others down. "

Nope not because of gullible and easy because I turn down quite a few women and even the very good looking ones because sometimes when I go out, I just want to get out of the house, I'm not looking for sex, just human interaction as I literally have no family in the UK lol so I spend a lot of time by myself.

It's also interesting you bring up the being easy part because it reminds me of a story a few months ago, I'm in the queue waiting to pay get into a club and these 2 girls were behind me, one says "omg that guy is so fit" and her friend was like "shh, he can hear you" and her reply was like "I don't give a shit, I can share him from Wednesday to Saturday for all I care"

Now the typical guy would have turned around start chatting them up especially the one who wants to shag him. And I'll be completely she was literally my ideal type, slim, brunette (even though hair colour isn't a big deal for me tbh), full lips, green eyes, good bond structure on her face. But as I really knew she wanted me, I wasn't going to make it easy on her. She passed me in the club several times and she was literally undressing me with her eyes lol. I didn't approach her that night.

She saw me a couple times in other clubs and finally spoke to me and told ne how she expected me to chat her up etc, and I was like that's not me, I don't approach women. She was shocked at my response but she did tell me I should loosen up, tale signs etc. We did hook up a few more times before she had to go to Uni.

It's also something my mates complain about a Lot, they say my standards are too high, I'm too picky etc. They are like I should play the numbers game etc.

You'd probably have to see me in person and watch how I operate. Even on this site I've been very picky and have turned down some really beautiful women. Because they were too pushy, last minute meets, said something offensive.

So yea I've never been accused of being easy b4 lol, it's quite the opposite tbh

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So what you're saying is: from your past experience, no matter the number of people- could be from 1 upwards, that you have notice this is how they think or choose men on.

I get where you're coming from, but that isn't what this post is about tbh. I've never had a woman say I'm short, small, etc. It's about sighs. Actually read the comments and stuff, I feeling I've got got through this a million times lol.

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By *izzy.miss.lizzyCouple over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

lumping everyone in the same boat isn't right, sounds to us like you are stuck in the opinion everyone is the same, we aren't.

If people have lied to you and manipulated you perhaps you need to choose better people to mix with not get bitter and twisted about it.

We only get treated the way we allow ourselves to get treated, so whoever does you wrong should get kicked to the kerb and not given a second thought.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Take this for example if I'm so wrong why is it that most of the profiles I see from women amd couples on this site have these 3 things

Guys should be big VWE (especially girthy)

Guys need to be a minimum of 6 feet tall

Please send a face pic, as there must be an attraction.

If I'm so wrong then why do many of these profiles share these 3 common criteria for guys to have???

Please provide the reference to this scientific research.

Now, I'm not usually one to be so crass but I hope you can step back and see what you're doing. It's to try and make yourself look and feel better whilst putting others down. "

I'm also not trying to pull others down, and I'll be happy to send you the scientific data on these things there's also an interesting one where women are more likely to lie and say size doesn’t matter when they're in a relationship as oppose to when they're single so as to not hurt their partner's feelings.

I would suggest you search red pill and blackpill opinions on dating, check or youtube videos on this same thing. Most times they share the articles and you can read them for yourself.

There's also one with guys an penis sizes and how the average is not 6-6.5 inches but closer to 5-5.5 because there was a problem collecting the data as guys lied about their size and when they were actually measured were found to be smaller.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"lumping everyone in the same boat isn't right, sounds to us like you are stuck in the opinion everyone is the same, we aren't.

If people have lied to you and manipulated you perhaps you need to choose better people to mix with not get bitter and twisted about it.

We only get treated the way we allow ourselves to get treated, so whoever does you wrong should get kicked to the kerb and not given a second thought."

Never said everyone for the millionth time lol, I said a majority amd it cod be a slight majority.

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

wokingham

No wonder your arms are so big, you been digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole all day

Grab yourself a protein shake and call it a day bri. Your almost at the core

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No wonder your arms are so big, you been digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole all day

Grab yourself a protein shake and call it a day bri. Your almost at the core "

I don't take protein shakes nor supplements lol, I'm 100% natural, and seriously I can't even swallow the stuff makes me sick.

It's calm lol what most people don't realise is that by their comments they're proving my point more and more so it's cool but thanks anyway lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP I’m going to be very honest here.

I find you rather puzzling having read a number of your threads in the short time you have been back here on Fab.

A lot of them are all about how many messages you are receiving from women who are apparently all dying to meet you. You are clearly not short on self confidence or self promotion but this thread? Do you actually like women? You have basically written us all off here with your rather damming pointers and you have said it applies to the majority of us.

Can you honestly not see how it’s going to offend people?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And yes, it is controversial. You cannot post a damming thread like this and then simply write off peoples comments by saying they are “proving a point”

What point IS that exactly?

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

wokingham

"No wonder your arms are so big, you been digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole all day

Grab yourself a protein shake and call it a day bri. Your almost at the core

I don't take protein shakes nor supplements lol, I'm 100% natural, and seriously I can't even swallow the stuff makes me sick.

It's calm lol what most people don't realise is that by their comments they're proving my point more and more so it's cool but thanks anyway lol"

I’m more shocked at you thinking protein powder isn’t natural

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP I think that you have some justification in feeling bitter and cynical from the experiences you've shared on this thread and others. I can't see how getting a lot of people off-side will help you get past that. It can be a supportive place, there are some good people. But lashing out and making broad criticisms of women - you may still get the sex, sure. But lose the community's goodwill.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"OP I’m going to be very honest here.

I find you rather puzzling having read a number of your threads in the short time you have been back here on Fab.

Can you honestly not see how it’s going to offend people?

I'm not looking for something serious with a woman. I had a very soft spot for women (single mum, 2 younger sisters I'm close to) I will literally help any woman out as long as she knows it's platonic and doesn't think I'm trying to flirt with her.

I was very sweet, nice etc but women don't like nice guys and I'm cool with that. So now I'm not that nice anymore, I don't shower women with compliments, I don't do flowers on the first date not cook a meal in the first 3 dates. I'm harsh so if a girl cancels on me, I don't ever msg her again. So yea I'm not the naive Caribbean guy from the islands anymore lol.

However I'm still respectful to all women, don't send dick pics unless asked, will never touch a woman without consent and generally don't stare at women or approach them when I'm out.

So feel free to infer from this information what you would like. I'm just me, but I don't take nonsense from women anymore, that's my personal stand issue.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No wonder your arms are so big, you been digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole all day

Grab yourself a protein shake and call it a day bri. Your almost at the core

I don't take protein shakes nor supplements lol, I'm 100% natural, and seriously I can't even swallow the stuff makes me sick.

It's calm lol what most people don't realise is that by their comments they're proving my point more and more so it's cool but thanks anyway lol

I’m more shocked at you thinking protein powder isn’t natural "

I prefer my protein sources to be natural, beans, meats, eggs etc rather than something made in a lab, not being offensive just stating what I think is natural and what isn't.

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Think I’ve only said the second one anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Utterly bizarre post with sinister overtones of misogyny.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP I’m going to be very honest here.

I find you rather puzzling having read a number of your threads in the short time you have been back here on Fab.

Can you honestly not see how it’s going to offend people?

However I'm still respectful to all women, don't send dick pics unless asked, will never touch a woman without consent and generally don't stare at women or approach them when I'm out.

So feel free to infer from this information what you would like. I'm just me, but I don't take nonsense from women anymore, that's my personal stand issue. "

Women do like nice guys

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Strong incel/neck beard vibes from the OP lol didn’t think I’d ever see that on this site

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By *rucking-HellMan over a year ago

Northampton

You've been watching WAY to many MGTOW videos on Youtube mate.

I've been there. The red pill is loosely true in a lot of cases. But you know what? Try looking for evidence which contradicts all the points you make, and you'll find that too.

There are lots of quality, sincere women out there, who really do put value on a man's personality above looks or money.

I've been so surprised by the unexpected ways a lot of women don't follow the red pilled understanding of women.

For every negative, I've always found a positive to balance it out. Try looking for them, they're certainly there.

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman over a year ago

Southampton

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question? "

I've never asked anyone that question as it's no one's business - it doesn't matter

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Strong incel/neck beard vibes from the OP lol didn’t think I’d ever see that on this site "

Dude. Not cool. Dont go throwing the incel insult around.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question?

I've never asked anyone that question as it's no one's business - it doesn't matter"

doesn't matter to you or I but it clearly matters very much to some people. That's ok everyone has different criteria when it comes to choosing a partner. I'm just happy I'm not dating nowadays. I honestly could not cope with all this psychology/science/game playing.

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

It really doesn't need to be anymore complicated than that

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question?

I've never asked anyone that question as it's no one's business - it doesn't matter

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

I wish it was less complicated myself tbh, but modern dating and the modern woman is an actual thing atm as well as dating apps (but that's a whole other topic) xx

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman over a year ago

Southampton

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

But yes I agree, people should be less judgemental and should try and have a balanced discussion on different subjects on here.

So you only wanted opinions that supported your viewpoints and not others? Then why ask if you are cynical or not?

I never said anything about just wanting people to support my view. I just wanted an honest discussion about this and for people not to get caught up in their feelings.

Take this for example if I'm so wrong why is it that most of the profiles I see from women amd couples on this site have these 3 things

Guys should be big VWE (especially girthy)

Guys need to be a minimum of 6 feet tall

Please send a face pic, as there must be an attraction.

If I'm so wrong then why do many of these profiles share these 3 common criteria for guys to have???

Nope don't want VWE - it can hurt!

I'm 5ft 3 and a sub so I like men to be taller than me so they can dominate me better and I've never denied it

Of course there has to be an attraction - if I'm not attracted to someone why would I have sex with them

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

It really doesn't need to be anymore complicated than that "

Life it seems and dating has changed significantly.

I know that the world moves on and swooning maidens no longer drop scented, lace hankies for prospective beaux to pick up but things seem to have taken a bit of a turn.

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

I like these threads, it’s like a self selection preemptive block.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question?

I've never asked anyone that question as it's no one's business - it doesn't matter

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

I wish it was less complicated myself tbh, but modern dating and the modern woman is an actual thing atm as well as dating apps (but that's a whole other topic) xx"

What do you mean by "the modern woman"? Do you feel that they're significantly different? Genuine questions

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Strong incel/neck beard vibes from the OP lol didn’t think I’d ever see that on this site "

Intel, do you actually know what that term means. Neck beard? I don't ever allow myself to get a neck beard.

Clearly you're missing the point, feeling a butthurt about something I said. I will repeat this for the last time, this is not a post complaining about can't get a date, or sex or anything like that. This is a forum and it's topic to be discussed, do women lie about these things or not,case close. Take that incel/neck beard by somewhere else. Thank you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question?

I've never asked anyone that question as it's no one's business - it doesn't matter

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

I wish it was less complicated myself tbh, but modern dating and the modern woman is an actual thing atm as well as dating apps (but that's a whole other topic) xx

What do you mean by "the modern woman"? Do you feel that they're significantly different? Genuine questions

Yes there are, women now are a lot different than how they were, yes I get it guys in the past were horrible and perhaps this is a way for women to adapt and protect themselves especially but the types of things I'm seeing from women now, are completely opposite to 10-15 years ago.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question?

I've never asked anyone that question as it's no one's business - it doesn't matter

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

I wish it was less complicated myself tbh, but modern dating and the modern woman is an actual thing atm as well as dating apps (but that's a whole other topic) xx

What do you mean by "the modern woman"? Do you feel that they're significantly different? Genuine questions

Maybe women are just sick of mens shit? Maybe they stand up for themselves now more than before?

Who knows!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Strong incel/neck beard vibes from the OP lol didn’t think I’d ever see that on this site

Dude. Not cool. Dont go throwing the incel insult around."

Yup nearly lost my cool replying to that one.

I think I always try to have some type of deep intelligent discourse but people are just too easily offended and literally read to get offended rather than to understand.

It makes no sense posting things like these sometimes. Will be taking a break from the forums after today tbh.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question?

I've never asked anyone that question as it's no one's business - it doesn't matter

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

I wish it was less complicated myself tbh, but modern dating and the modern woman is an actual thing atm as well as dating apps (but that's a whole other topic) xx

What do you mean by "the modern woman"? Do you feel that they're significantly different? Genuine questions

Maybe women are just sick of mens shit? Maybe they stand up for themselves now more than before?

Who knows!"

That's my point.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I think all sides are capable of something on that list.

When you go on your 1st date and they ask how many sexual partners are you going to say

A) 4

B) Equivalent to the population of China.

You are instinctively always going to say lower as you don't want to put them off.

Plus it's a double standard men are seemed as stallions for fucking everything that moves but women are seen in a different light.

The above list wouldn't bother me if I was playing about or open relationship

I've never asked anyone how many sexual partners they've had. Mind you I don't date for obvious reasons

. Is it a common question?

I've never asked anyone that question as it's no one's business - it doesn't matter

You meet, you get along, you have a good time, you continue the relationship or you don't. Or was that just us?

I wish it was less complicated myself tbh, but modern dating and the modern woman is an actual thing atm as well as dating apps (but that's a whole other topic) xx

What do you mean by "the modern woman"? Do you feel that they're significantly different? Genuine questions

Can you articulate in what way women are different? Most guys in my past weren't horrible I have to say, one or two were but I was savvy enough to see that quickly. Our daughter dated a few losers but again she was quick to spot them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It's why people are aggressive and fear what they don't understand. I'm an alien trying to invade earth I guess lol

I agree and disagree with some of what you say. Nobody needs to judge others totally agree. But isn't the OP itself a judgement of women?

But yes I agree, people should be less judgemental and should try and have a balanced discussion on different subjects on here.

So you only wanted opinions that supported your viewpoints and not others? Then why ask if you are cynical or not?

I never said anything about just wanting people to support my view. I just wanted an honest discussion about this and for people not to get caught up in their feelings.

Take this for example if I'm so wrong why is it that most of the profiles I see from women amd couples on this site have these 3 things

Guys should be big VWE (especially girthy)

Guys need to be a minimum of 6 feet tall

Please send a face pic, as there must be an attraction.

If I'm so wrong then why do many of these profiles share these 3 common criteria for guys to have???

Nope don't want VWE - it can hurt!

I'm 5ft 3 and a sub so I like men to be taller than me so they can dominate me better and I've never denied it

Of course there has to be an attraction - if I'm not attracted to someone why would I have sex with them"

Right so I ask am I wrong with what

I post because you seem to have ticked 2/3.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Honestly I post questions like this at times just to test if it makes sense to post things like this. Will be taking taking break from the forums and I'll keep the questions to just sex, TV shows and light hearted topics that's less controversial.

Fair enough peace out,enjoy

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

wokingham

"No wonder your arms are so big, you been digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole all day

Grab yourself a protein shake and call it a day bri. Your almost at the core

I don't take protein shakes nor supplements lol, I'm 100% natural, and seriously I can't even swallow the stuff makes me sick.

It's calm lol what most people don't realise is that by their comments they're proving my point more and more so it's cool but thanks anyway lol

I’m more shocked at you thinking protein powder isn’t natural

I prefer my protein sources to be natural, beans, meats, eggs etc rather than something made in a lab, not being offensive just stating what I think is natural and what isn't. "

It’s made from cheese. Dunno why you think it’s made in a lab

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

wokingham

"Honestly I post questions like this at times just to test if it makes sense to post things like this. Will be taking taking break from the forums and I'll keep the questions to just sex, TV shows and light hearted topics that's less controversial.

Fair enough peace out,enjoy

Your next post

“So I was in the pub when 16 Scandinavian women walked in and started begging me for sex. And it got me thinking

What’s your favourite colour?”

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By *emorefridaCouple over a year ago

La la land

Yes you are cynical, think that answers the OP sorted

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow week. We think the same. Many flip sides to all that are mentioned!

Most we have experienced these tendencies as men/women from both ends.

In this society things and behaviours are very prevalent more so now than ever before.

And have been microscoped because of Social media and the Internet.

There will always be the Hunter/hunted mindset

Humans always do want something from one another directly and indirectly!

Some are aware of their being and some are unaware or so don't want to be accountable for anything,which then comes down to the Animal Predator behaviour!!

Just some of my observations to date.

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman over a year ago

Southampton

I replied because you wanted honesty - I gave you honesty!

I've never lied about what I want. Those things are preferences not lies

Women AND men lie to each other - always have and always will

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