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I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels. |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels."
Do we need leads for the squirrels too? |
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels."
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They haven’t decimated that plague of mice have they? |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels.
Do we need leads for the squirrels too?"
No, we just need to reintroduce Pine Martins. They kill grey squirrels but find it more difficult to catch the red ones. |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels."
How are cats responsible for that? Australias wildlife is fucked due to the introduction of foreign species to the continent along with their animal welfare and rights laws. A lot of the food chain has been disrupted simply with the introduction of sheep farming, not only being a food source for coyotes allowing other species to thrive, resulting in an impact elsewhere within the environment, but also the ecological impact from sheep causing damage to the soil, affecting the vegetation and insect world, which has a chain reaction effect on the larger wildlife that rely on insects, and so on.
Cats are barely responsible for the damages to the Australian wildlife. Humans and their short-sightedness have been the biggest problem for australias wildlife, followed by the bushfires. |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels.
How are cats responsible for that? Australias wildlife is fucked due to the introduction of foreign species to the continent along with their animal welfare and rights laws. A lot of the food chain has been disrupted simply with the introduction of sheep farming, not only being a food source for coyotes allowing other species to thrive, resulting in an impact elsewhere within the environment, but also the ecological impact from sheep causing damage to the soil, affecting the vegetation and insect world, which has a chain reaction effect on the larger wildlife that rely on insects, and so on.
Cats are barely responsible for the damages to the Australian wildlife. Humans and their short-sightedness have been the biggest problem for australias wildlife, followed by the bushfires."
All of what you say might well be correct but a group of Australians who live in Australia with a view of what is actually going on wish to impose restrictions. Go and point that out to them. |
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"I watched a video YouTube of a cat on a lead and it went mental. Was like a tasman devil ×10
You would be shredded to bits trying that on some cats."
Exactly this. They aren’t stupid either, you’ll get them on the lead the first time by virtue of them not knowing what it is, and they’ll go crazy. Any time you take the lead out after that?
Good luck. Ever tried getting a cat into a cat carrier when they don’t want to go in there? Nightmare. |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels.
How are cats responsible for that? Australias wildlife is fucked due to the introduction of foreign species to the continent along with their animal welfare and rights laws. A lot of the food chain has been disrupted simply with the introduction of sheep farming, not only being a food source for coyotes allowing other species to thrive, resulting in an impact elsewhere within the environment, but also the ecological impact from sheep causing damage to the soil, affecting the vegetation and insect world, which has a chain reaction effect on the larger wildlife that rely on insects, and so on.
Cats are barely responsible for the damages to the Australian wildlife. Humans and their short-sightedness have been the biggest problem for australias wildlife, followed by the bushfires."
So Australians on leads? |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels."
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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"I watched a video YouTube of a cat on a lead and it went mental. Was like a tasman devil ×10
You would be shredded to bits trying that on some cats.
Exactly this. They aren’t stupid either, you’ll get them on the lead the first time by virtue of them not knowing what it is, and they’ll go crazy. Any time you take the lead out after that?
Good luck. Ever tried getting a cat into a cat carrier when they don’t want to go in there? Nightmare."
That's true, going the vet is a nightmare and even a nice cat can get stressed and bite or scratch.
It's an idea but one that won't actually happen. |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels.
Do we need leads for the squirrels too?"
No just a .22 rifle |
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Cats on leads have one of 3 reactions in my experience
1 they don't seem to notice it's there till they see something and try run for it
2 they flop like a toddler in a supermarket
3 they get quite upset but that's why things take small steps
I've had to have my cat use a lead at times and once she was used to it and knew it ment outdoor time she loved it |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels.
Do we need leads for the squirrels too?
No just a .22 rifle"
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"All of what you say might well be correct but a group of Australians who live in Australia with a view of what is actually going on wish to impose restrictions. Go and point that out to them."
Might be correct? And, whos to say those australians have even the slightest clue what is going on, have they provided evidence or analysed data that proves cats are the problem?
Cats responsible for the "decimation" of Australias wildlife? Does that not sound absurd to you given the vast number of poblems caused by human intervention, direct or otherwise?
I dont know where this came from to say cats are the cause for the change to ecosystem on the continent, but without even looking it up i can confidently say its the government or the farming industry, or both, covering up their own mistakes and damage theyve caused.
Just because a law was passed stating cats need to be on a lead doesnt mean you should believe it was passed for legitimate reasons or even makes any sense whatsoever. |
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"All of what you say might well be correct but a group of Australians who live in Australia with a view of what is actually going on wish to impose restrictions. Go and point that out to them.
Might be correct? And, whos to say those australians have even the slightest clue what is going on, have they provided evidence or analysed data that proves cats are the problem?
Cats responsible for the "decimation" of Australias wildlife? Does that not sound absurd to you given the vast number of poblems caused by human intervention, direct or otherwise?
I dont know where this came from to say cats are the cause for the change to ecosystem on the continent, but without even looking it up i can confidently say its the government or the farming industry, or both, covering up their own mistakes and damage theyve caused.
Just because a law was passed stating cats need to be on a lead doesnt mean you should believe it was passed for legitimate reasons or even makes any sense whatsoever."
The report is published on the Australian parliament website, it's called Tackling the feral cat pandemic: a plan to save Australian wildlife (December 2020).
If it lends any credibility at all the Australian RSPCA has backed calls to have cats contained 24/7 to stop them roaming freely.
I'm not in Australia and don't know how severe the issue is, so I bow to the greater knowledge of those dealing with it. |
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"The report is published on the Australian parliament website, it's called Tackling the feral cat pandemic: a plan to save Australian wildlife (December 2020).
If it lends any credibility at all the Australian RSPCA has backed calls to have cats contained 24/7 to stop them roaming freely.
I'm not in Australia and don't know how severe the issue is, so I bow to the greater knowledge of those dealing with it."
You bow to the greater knowledge of those dealing with it? No offence but that makes me facepalm so hard.
Australia is having serious issues with the ecosystem as a result of human intervention cos they thought they knew best. Cane toads native to south america are rampant across the continent and have no known predators due to their toxic glands, they were introduced to combat the cane beetles that were destroying sugar cane crops. The toads were useless as they cant reach the beetles at the top of the sugar canes and have an insanely high level of reproduction.
There are also numerous wildlife conservation laws to protect endangered species like koalas, laws that have made absolutely no impact on the preservation of the species theyre supposed to protect.
And if i recall correctly australia is 4th in the world for causing extinctions to species. Pointing the blame at cats, domestic or feral, is hilarious. So just because something is government funded doesnt mean its true. Farmers and other industries would happily pay a lot of money to avoid the blame being put on them as the causes for such disasters and have a track record of doing just that.
Seriously dont believe everything you read, its easy to fool someone with bullshit if they dont have a good knowledge of previous events. |
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"I watched a video YouTube of a cat on a lead and it went mental. Was like a tasman devil ×10
You would be shredded to bits trying that on some cats.
Exactly this. They aren’t stupid either, you’ll get them on the lead the first time by virtue of them not knowing what it is, and they’ll go crazy. Any time you take the lead out after that?
Good luck. Ever tried getting a cat into a cat carrier when they don’t want to go in there? Nightmare."
There's a knack to the carrier problem. Put the carrier on the floor behind the cat, put your hand on its head and cover the eyes, then push gently and the cat will back away straight into the carrier. Not always 100% successful, but this method works better than any other I've tried  |
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"This is all over the news and I can guess the next step. Cats not on leave after midnight... I fear their fate "
Fuck 'em, they're only cats, they don't care about you.  |
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To train a cat on a lead you have to start doing it as a kitten ,If you try to put a adult cat on a lead then good luck to you ..
Someone I know walks their cat on a lead but it’s one of them expensive ones but they had to introduce the lead from 8 weeks old now when she grabs the lead the cat runs to her ..Personally I think we should just let cats run free otherwise we will be over run with vermin. |
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By *exfordMan
over a year ago
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"A council in Australia is imposing that all cats that are out of the house are put on leads. Could it catch on?"
Cats on Leeds... Didn't know they had an opinion on West Yorkshire towns! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I am not privvy but could it be that any cat out late at night without a in lead is fair game for hunting.. ?
Are you insane?"
Yes I am but I wonder if this paves the way cull the cats not on a lead |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels.
Do we need leads for the squirrels too?"
no just my shot gun |
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over a year ago
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I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked! "
And the damage they cause ? |
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"The report is published on the Australian parliament website, it's called Tackling the feral cat pandemic: a plan to save Australian wildlife (December 2020).
If it lends any credibility at all the Australian RSPCA has backed calls to have cats contained 24/7 to stop them roaming freely.
I'm not in Australia and don't know how severe the issue is, so I bow to the greater knowledge of those dealing with it.
You bow to the greater knowledge of those dealing with it? No offence but that makes me facepalm so hard.
Australia is having serious issues with the ecosystem as a result of human intervention cos they thought they knew best. Cane toads native to south america are rampant across the continent and have no known predators due to their toxic glands, they were introduced to combat the cane beetles that were destroying sugar cane crops. The toads were useless as they cant reach the beetles at the top of the sugar canes and have an insanely high level of reproduction.
There are also numerous wildlife conservation laws to protect endangered species like koalas, laws that have made absolutely no impact on the preservation of the species theyre supposed to protect.
And if i recall correctly australia is 4th in the world for causing extinctions to species. Pointing the blame at cats, domestic or feral, is hilarious. So just because something is government funded doesnt mean its true. Farmers and other industries would happily pay a lot of money to avoid the blame being put on them as the causes for such disasters and have a track record of doing just that.
Seriously dont believe everything you read, its easy to fool someone with bullshit if they dont have a good knowledge of previous events."
I am not saying they never get it wrong, but my uninformed opinion is far more likely to be wrong than the opinions of all the scientific advisors brought in to inform the government's report so yes, I bow to their knowledge.
Doctors get it wrong but I still go there when I get sick.
If that makes you facepalm I find I can bear that with equanimity. |
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?"
Owners should be held responsible? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?
Owners should be held responsible? "
Or prevent by putting cats on leads
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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I know of a couple of people who walk their cats…I don’t do this but mine are moody and would flip out if I tried. If you start young then I guess it would be easier. It does look very cute to see them out and about though |
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?
Owners should be held responsible?
Or prevent by putting cats on leads
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So you’re advocating tying up a cat so it cannot roam around outside? Mayne of cats are so dangerous that people should not own them?
Have had 4 cats over the years and all of them roamed outside and did their own thing when not in the house. No walking them around the block.
When dogs are tied up in the the yard for hours on end people tend to call the RAPCA. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?
Owners should be held responsible?
Or prevent by putting cats on leads
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So you’re advocating tying up a cat so it cannot roam around outside? Mayne of cats are so dangerous that people should not own them?
Have had 4 cats over the years and all of them roamed outside and did their own thing when not in the house. No walking them around the block.
When dogs are tied up in the the yard for hours on end people tend to call the RAPCA. "
And where did they shit.. ?
In your garden or someone else's ? |
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?
Owners should be held responsible?
Or prevent by putting cats on leads
.
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So you’re advocating tying up a cat so it cannot roam around outside? Mayne of cats are so dangerous that people should not own them?
Have had 4 cats over the years and all of them roamed outside and did their own thing when not in the house. No walking them around the block.
When dogs are tied up in the the yard for hours on end people tend to call the RAPCA. "
I think they are legislating that when out of the house they are on a lead... |
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"I think cats are responsible for decimating some of the Australian wildlife. I guess they are actually saying 'get rid of your cat if you want to live here'.
We appear to have a similar problem with grey squirrels.
Do we need leads for the squirrels too?
No just a .22 rifle"
fully agree cats are decimating our country side as it is |
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?
Owners should be held responsible?
Or prevent by putting cats on leads
.
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So you’re advocating tying up a cat so it cannot roam around outside? Mayne of cats are so dangerous that people should not own them?
Have had 4 cats over the years and all of them roamed outside and did their own thing when not in the house. No walking them around the block.
When dogs are tied up in the the yard for hours on end people tend to call the RAPCA.
And where did they shit.. ?
In your garden or someone else's ?"
Fk knows. We’d not see them for days sometimes. They’re fiercely independent animals! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?
Owners should be held responsible?
Or prevent by putting cats on leads
.
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So you’re advocating tying up a cat so it cannot roam around outside? Mayne of cats are so dangerous that people should not own them?
Have had 4 cats over the years and all of them roamed outside and did their own thing when not in the house. No walking them around the block.
When dogs are tied up in the the yard for hours on end people tend to call the RAPCA.
And where did they shit.. ?
In your garden or someone else's ?
Fk knows. We’d not see them for days sometimes. They’re fiercely independent animals! "
AKA... shit in someone elses garden..
Dirty buggers..
Maybe that's what the Australians want to stop.. |
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?
Owners should be held responsible?
Or prevent by putting cats on leads
.
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So you’re advocating tying up a cat so it cannot roam around outside? Mayne of cats are so dangerous that people should not own them?
Have had 4 cats over the years and all of them roamed outside and did their own thing when not in the house. No walking them around the block.
When dogs are tied up in the the yard for hours on end people tend to call the RAPCA.
I think they are legislating that when out of the house they are on a lead..."
Well of it becomes law then cat owners won’t have a choice. Don’t own any cats so don’t really give a fk tbh
Still what’s probably more daft is people keeping thee things when they don’t have the space to allow them to roam and have to put them on a lead. That’s just sad (for the cats). But each to their own. |
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"I’ll park this nonsense in the same category as carrying a small dog in a bag. Some bright spark in Kensington thinks it is fashionable and it catches on.
Cats should run free and don’t need to be walked!
And the damage they cause ?
Owners should be held responsible?
Or prevent by putting cats on leads
.
.
So you’re advocating tying up a cat so it cannot roam around outside? Mayne of cats are so dangerous that people should not own them?
Have had 4 cats over the years and all of them roamed outside and did their own thing when not in the house. No walking them around the block.
When dogs are tied up in the the yard for hours on end people tend to call the RAPCA.
And where did they shit.. ?
In your garden or someone else's ?
Fk knows. We’d not see them for days sometimes. They’re fiercely independent animals!
AKA... shit in someone elses garden..
Dirty buggers..
Maybe that's what the Australians want to stop.. "
Aka nothing of the sort, unless they walked a VERY long way. The cats were landed gentry  |
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kinda the opposite, but it makes me happy to remember...
Outside table at a coffee shop on tooting broadway. It's a super busy junction; cars and people.
Dude with a long beard dressed as a wizard (proper old school wizard) having a coffee with 2 cats.
2 cats.
No leashes.
1 on a chair, 1 on the table. purrfectly content sat there.
tooting broadway wizards and their cats make thier own rules
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