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By *emma Holden OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Ramsey

I was thinking the other day about how governments now want us to stop flying as much as possible & want us all in electric cars & fitting heat pumps etc to help with climate change.

How long do you think it will be before the carbon footprint we make going on holiday, or travelling to a football match, or pop concert gets frowned upon? Is this fair on our kids not being able to do what we have done in our lives?

I hate conspiracy theories etc, but sometimes I feel every bit of fun is going to be squeezed out of our lives & we'll be made to exist in a much smaller world than we have been used to. Our kids will miss out on so much.

Thoughts & opinions all welcome. Think about what it could mean for you & are we being slowly drip fed & manipulated?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

you have no idea what a faff it was for me to visit the theatre last weekend.

The theatre announced ' no covid pass no entry AFTER i'd bought tickets.

Now the gvt and police have access to my medical records and know my whereabouts every second of the day .......

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

The extra fuss n panic I had to make before travelling to the theatre was insane.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I fear for the next generations to come, I’m worried that society will evolve into survival of the fittest. Think the great 2020 shit paper shortage, and the ensuing mayhem. Imagine that with all other essentials, and the material things.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

wokingham


"I was thinking the other day about how governments now want us to stop flying as much as possible & want us all in electric cars & fitting heat pumps etc to help with climate change.

How long do you think it will be before the carbon footprint we make going on holiday, or travelling to a football match, or pop concert gets frowned upon? Is this fair on our kids not being able to do what we have done in our lives?

I hate conspiracy theories etc, but sometimes I feel every bit of fun is going to be squeezed out of our lives & we'll be made to exist in a much smaller world than we have been used to. Our kids will miss out on so much.

Thoughts & opinions all welcome. Think about what it could mean for you & are we being slowly drip fed & manipulated?"

All while the top 1% jet around in private planes to extravagant yacht parties, or flying rockets into space

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was thinking the other day about how governments now want us to stop flying as much as possible & want us all in electric cars & fitting heat pumps etc to help with climate change.

How long do you think it will be before the carbon footprint we make going on holiday, or travelling to a football match, or pop concert gets frowned upon? Is this fair on our kids not being able to do what we have done in our lives?

I hate conspiracy theories etc, but sometimes I feel every bit of fun is going to be squeezed out of our lives & we'll be made to exist in a much smaller world than we have been used to. Our kids will miss out on so much.

Thoughts & opinions all welcome. Think about what it could mean for you & are we being slowly drip fed & manipulated?"

This is inevitable. We will all have to make big changes in time, both changing how we do some things as well as greatly reducing certain activities if not ceasing altogether.

I expect the educated of the next generation would find that preferable over the alternative.

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek

Some cunt will nuke the lot before long anyway, I don't think we'll get as far as the dumbing down bit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some cunt will nuke the lot before long anyway, I don't think we'll get as far as the dumbing down bit."

As long as I know where n when so I can go and get a front row seat to witness oblivion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was thinking the other day about how governments now want us to stop flying as much as possible & want us all in electric cars & fitting heat pumps etc to help with climate change.

How long do you think it will be before the carbon footprint we make going on holiday, or travelling to a football match, or pop concert gets frowned upon? Is this fair on our kids not being able to do what we have done in our lives?

I hate conspiracy theories etc, but sometimes I feel every bit of fun is going to be squeezed out of our lives & we'll be made to exist in a much smaller world than we have been used to. Our kids will miss out on so much.

Thoughts & opinions all welcome. Think about what it could mean for you & are we being slowly drip fed & manipulated?

All while the top 1% jet around in private planes to extravagant yacht parties, or flying rockets into space "

Or the top 1% jet round to climate change events.. whilst telling us plebs.. that having gas heating, flying on holiday etc is contributing to world decline therefore we (not them cause they’re special) need to sacrifice & give up our essentials & occasional frivolities..

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By *emma Holden OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Ramsey

Just to be clear on this. I'm no covid or climate denier, I've had my jabs & do what recycling I can, walk when I can instead of the car & try to do the right thing. I can't afford to fly away on foreign holidays or buy an electric car.

I've sat & watched everything this last 2 years & kept an open mind weighing up everything thrown at us & what they show us, & what they don't. I will maintain that position & stay open minded. But something stinks.

Maybe we are the first humans to have our wings clipped after decades of plenty, greed & extravagance & we don't like it one iota & rail against it.

You can see how people get weary of all the depressing armageddon stories & think to hell with it & carry on like normal. You don't know what to believe & should avoid the extremes of both sides of the arguments.

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek

Maybe we are the first humans to have our wings clipped after decades of plenty, greed & extravagance & we don't like it one iota & rail against it.

Spot on with this bit.

It's been all about innovation, industrialist, engineering etc. Take take take, entitlement, self, more, bla bla bla.

Funny thing is, the most content people on the whole are those who still live in tribes and live life the "natural" way, with community, family and plant life.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm happy to clip my wings so that future generations can have a decent standard of living.

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By *icolerobbieCouple  over a year ago

walsall

I’m too busy living my life to listen to people who think that they can tell me how they would prefer I lived my life.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don’t deny climate change… however.. industrialisation had brought us to this current world…

However we can’t ignore the world cycles before this.. ice age, extinction of dinosaurs, mount Vesuvius erupting.. all these things happened before we were in existence..pre industrial world.

We have exacerbated it.. but … is there also not a natural life/world cycle to the universe?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Soon be extinct like the dinosaurs only difference will be no planet after global warming

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"I don’t deny climate change… however.. industrialisation had brought us to this current world…

However we can’t ignore the world cycles before this.. ice age, extinction of dinosaurs, mount Vesuvius erupting.. all these things happened before we were in existence..pre industrial world.

We have exacerbated it.. but … is there also not a natural life/world cycle to the universe?

"

Volcanoes erupting is just normal planetary behaviour - plate tectonics.

Our best understanding of the reason for the mass extinction of the dinosaurs is a meteor impact - a cosmic event unrelated to activity on Earth. Yes, the resulting change to the planet brought about by the impact was considerable but not comparable with the changes in global temperature that have happened in the past 150-200yrs.

The simple fact remains that average global temperatures have changed (increased) more rapidly in a far shorter time period than any time that we can ascertain. The changes that brought about the mass extinction of dinosaurs happened over a far longer period (apart from those directly in the impact zone, obviously).

Yes, global temperatures have previously been cold enough for "ice ages" but again, the heating that has occurred after the ice ages is far more rapid in the post industrial era than any previous event.

The only explanation for the speed and severity of changes being experienced across the global is the impact of human activity.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Our kids will miss out on so much.

"

Generations have grown up finding different things to do, and having different aspirations and values than their parents. We might not want what they get, but they’ll have grown up with it and it will be normal for them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don’t deny climate change… however.. industrialisation had brought us to this current world…

However we can’t ignore the world cycles before this.. ice age, extinction of dinosaurs, mount Vesuvius erupting.. all these things happened before we were in existence..pre industrial world.

We have exacerbated it.. but … is there also not a natural life/world cycle to the universe?

"

Saving the planet is a nice idea, but the planet is fine, look at places like Chernobyl which are in many ways idyllic nature reserves now. What’s not fine is our ability to live on it in the way we currently do. The earth has been hotter, it’s been cooler, Humans are a blip in the history of the earth, we’ll fuck off like the dinosaurs eventually and the planet will carry on fine thanks, reclaiming all the cities and oceans. If climate deniers had it framed as ‘save the humans’ they might pay more attention, because that’s what’s actually at stake

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’ll stick to the osmands !

Love me for a reason !

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester

its got nothing to do with climate change, its about controling the plebs and more taxes, look at the recent cop thing , nothing was really decided, the worst poluting countries dont want to change, never mind that the uk is one of the least poluting countries there is, but insulate britain etc make headlines, and it suits our leaders to play on this, the restrictions on public cars in london for instance have made little or no differance, and in some areas unbelivably made it worse, but its raised billions of pounds, and we just sit back and take it, unless things are dont on a global scale then nothing will work, never mind the climate changes on a cycle if we are here or not, it always has.

I do live in a clean a way as i can, dont have a car, recicle etc, i might add, as i dont see a reason to not, but it makes no difference when boris flys to cop for the talks, and undoes everything i and thousands have done for good.

As always one rule for us, and one rule for them, and its not just boris, look at India, where i had the misfortune to work for a bit, talk about smog, yet they still build coal power stations etc

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester

And yes its a shame that the next generation wont enjoy the freadoms we had, but i dont see what we can do, apart from inventing climate friendly and cheap energy.

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham

The thing is what you have described has only been the way of life for humans for a very short period of time. Maybe it's time to get back to something more low key because the world and people don't really seem to be too happy at the moment.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

The focus should be more on businesses and the very wealthy, but businesses have very cleverly shifted responsibility onto ourselves.

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By *hrista BellendWoman  over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

We are being asked to evolve quickly is all. The young will be able to do what fun we had but in a different way, gov are trying to force innovation to try and find a solution and there is tech out there to help but they are looking for big changes, look at what happened when the Internet was created... gov want another discovery like that

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By *he_Last_TitanMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"you have no idea what a faff it was for me to visit the theatre last weekend.

The theatre announced ' no covid pass no entry AFTER i'd bought tickets.

Now the gvt and police have access to my medical records and know my whereabouts every second of the day ....... "

The last bit was true before COVID19 passes (which I personally agree with).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

"The great re-set is Coming"

faster than a Japanese bullet train!!

" own nothing and be happy"

We will take everything away from you eventually!!

Wait until the interest rates go up,esp for people whom have taken out huge loads and big cars to impress others.

" no conspiracy here"

We the masses are being HEAD- FCUKED FULLY.

and are allowing it to be done...

Think what you wish,the wave is coming...faster than we think it is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was thinking the other day about how governments now want us to stop flying as much as possible & want us all in electric cars & fitting heat pumps etc to help with climate change.

How long do you think it will be before the carbon footprint we make going on holiday, or travelling to a football match, or pop concert gets frowned upon? Is this fair on our kids not being able to do what we have done in our lives?

I hate conspiracy theories etc, but sometimes I feel every bit of fun is going to be squeezed out of our lives & we'll be made to exist in a much smaller world than we have been used to. Our kids will miss out on so much.

Thoughts & opinions all welcome. Think about what it could mean for you & are we being slowly drip fed & manipulated?

All while the top 1% jet around in private planes to extravagant yacht parties, or flying rockets into space "

We the masses are contributing to all their plans.

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Take the long view, in 200, 500,1000 years energy and travel will be very different , science builds on science what you’re seeing now is the telegrams and stream trains compared to what’s coming.

And governments are in for 4 years only, and not smart enough or capable of implementing the conspiracy theories on YouTube , they’re more focused on their next consulting role when we vote them out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Maybe we are the first humans to have our wings clipped after decades of plenty, greed & extravagance & we don't like it one iota & rail against it.

Spot on with this bit.

It's been all about innovation, industrialist, engineering etc. Take take take, entitlement, self, more, bla bla bla.

Funny thing is, the most content people on the whole are those who still live in tribes and live life the "natural" way, with community, family and plant life.

"

Yes the natural life.

Far far away from this plastic fantastic garbage...

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

wokingham

I think a big step away from fossil fuels and a big step towards nuclear power is the way to go

But sadly until most homes and cars are powered by electric it won’t solve much yet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"its got nothing to do with climate change, its about controling the plebs and more taxes, look at the recent cop thing , nothing was really decided, the worst poluting countries dont want to change, never mind that the uk is one of the least poluting countries there is, but insulate britain etc make headlines, and it suits our leaders to play on this, the restrictions on public cars in london for instance have made little or no differance, and in some areas unbelivably made it worse, but its raised billions of pounds, and we just sit back and take it, unless things are dont on a global scale then nothing will work, never mind the climate changes on a cycle if we are here or not, it always has.

I do live in a clean a way as i can, dont have a car, recicle etc, i might add, as i dont see a reason to not, but it makes no difference when boris flys to cop for the talks, and undoes everything i and thousands have done for good.

As always one rule for us, and one rule for them, and its not just boris, look at India, where i had the misfortune to work for a bit, talk about smog, yet they still build coal power stations etc"

110% spot on!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The focus should be more on businesses and the very wealthy, but businesses have very cleverly shifted responsibility onto ourselves. "

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Maybe we are the first humans to have our wings clipped after decades of plenty, greed & extravagance & we don't like it one iota & rail against it.

Spot on with this bit.

It's been all about innovation, industrialist, engineering etc. Take take take, entitlement, self, more, bla bla bla.

Funny thing is, the most content people on the whole are those who still live in tribes and live life the "natural" way, with community, family and plant life.

Yes the natural life.

Far far away from this plastic fantastic garbage...

"

Dint you think they deserve the standards healthcare, education, housing and opportunity to determine their future that we have ? Spend time with these kids that learn nothing about the world , have no books, roads or street lights , clean water you will change your mind

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By *xtrafun4youMan  over a year ago

Dunstable


"I was thinking the other day about how governments now want us to stop flying as much as possible & want us all in electric cars & fitting heat pumps etc to help with climate change.

How long do you think it will be before the carbon footprint we make going on holiday, or travelling to a football match, or pop concert gets frowned upon? Is this fair on our kids not being able to do what we have done in our lives?

I hate conspiracy theories etc, but sometimes I feel every bit of fun is going to be squeezed out of our lives & we'll be made to exist in a much smaller world than we have been used to. Our kids will miss out on so much.

Thoughts & opinions all welcome. Think about what it could mean for you & are we being slowly drip fed & manipulated?

All while the top 1% jet around in private planes to extravagant yacht parties, or flying rockets into space "

ignore the government and live your life. After all they are. Fact the planet has been warming up since the ice age. Look at the biger picture. It all a money taxing making scam. Pay to take a car into a city. But you can drive that car around with no restrictions elsewhere. Being pushed into expensive electric cars that run on very highly poluting chemicals that are being extracted from the planet. And dont have a real recycling value. And charged by electric that uses fuel to create....

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I think a big step away from fossil fuels and a big step towards nuclear power is the way to go

But sadly until most homes and cars are powered by electric it won’t solve much yet "

It’s happening but it takes time. Look how long it’s taking to roll out fibre across all of the U.K. 35 years so far and still a long way to go , now imagine the task of sub Saharan Africa which has practically no grid electric and runs on DC generators and diesel, with some pockets of hybrid /solar. Same for most emerging markets in Africa, Asia and LATAM. It’s going to take a long time and we need a few more developments from people like mr Musk to help us

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

wokingham


"I was thinking the other day about how governments now want us to stop flying as much as possible & want us all in electric cars & fitting heat pumps etc to help with climate change.

How long do you think it will be before the carbon footprint we make going on holiday, or travelling to a football match, or pop concert gets frowned upon? Is this fair on our kids not being able to do what we have done in our lives?

I hate conspiracy theories etc, but sometimes I feel every bit of fun is going to be squeezed out of our lives & we'll be made to exist in a much smaller world than we have been used to. Our kids will miss out on so much.

Thoughts & opinions all welcome. Think about what it could mean for you & are we being slowly drip fed & manipulated?

All while the top 1% jet around in private planes to extravagant yacht parties, or flying rockets into space ignore the government and live your life. After all they are. Fact the planet has been warming up since the ice age. Look at the biger picture. It all a money taxing making scam. Pay to take a car into a city. But you can drive that car around with no restrictions elsewhere. Being pushed into expensive electric cars that run on very highly poluting chemicals that are being extracted from the planet. And dont have a real recycling value. And charged by electric that uses fuel to create.... "

The fact that you don’t understand why electric cars running on electric is more green than fossil fuels kinda makes me think everything else you said is mute

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What’s with this trope that CCh is all about tax and controlling the plebs.

They already have many mechanisms to do this - why have a multi decade ‘conspiracy’? Just look at how much ‘control’ can be exercise in v short period of time with covid/lockdown.

Is it really that much more comforting to out head in sand and complain than to look at ways to change and embrace the opportunities?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Maybe we are the first humans to have our wings clipped after decades of plenty, greed & extravagance & we don't like it one iota & rail against it.

Spot on with this bit.

It's been all about innovation, industrialist, engineering etc. Take take take, entitlement, self, more, bla bla bla.

Funny thing is, the most content people on the whole are those who still live in tribes and live life the "natural" way, with community, family and plant life.

"

Agreed, recent generations have become extremely ungrateful, as much as im a small part of consumerism im still very restrained, but i absolutely hate what consumerism has done to the ppl of this planet

The world needs a reset, we need to return to more traditional ways of life and become closer communities again. Sure some technologies would be useful to keep but theres so much we really dont need, and we all need to understand

God i could talk about these things for days but i have to hold back on this one

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