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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon

A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies. Saying I need to make a civil claim against them. I think it's crap so have made a formal complaint. I'm currently going after the man who paid for all this. I think I need a solicitor lol. My van was parked in a rented bay from council and I'm awaiting refund as no longer need.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You won't find what you want in here

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple  over a year ago

Lincoln

I feel like the Citizens Advice Bureau is going to be a lot more help to you than a gang of perverts...

LvM

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West

Suggest a solicitor that gives free or low cost initial advice or the CAB

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes you need a solicitor....

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

Have you asked the skip company where they took your caravan ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How much is your claim. Reason I ask is you could do it via small claims court - look it up google and quiet cheap but take advice.

Don't forget, you may win in small claims but if the man does not have a penny to their name you wont get anyhting

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes you need a solicitor....

"

Or a hitman.

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon

It was disposed off.

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon

Yep

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon

Thanks it's not a lot so yes small claims. He has enough money for this. Ta

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"Have you asked the skip company where they took your caravan ? "

Yep crushed

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"How much is your claim. Reason I ask is you could do it via small claims court - look it up google and quiet cheap but take advice.

Don't forget, you may win in small claims but if the man does not have a penny to their name you wont get anyhting"

Thanks it's not a lot so yes small claims. He has enough money for this. Ta

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"I feel like the Citizens Advice Bureau is going to be a lot more help to you than a gang of perverts...

LvM"

Yep lol. Always worth an ask. Waiting in CAB

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The man isn't from the council is he?..

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"The man isn't from the council is he?.. "

Nope ??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At least report it to police as a theft and get a crime number. The police will do sod all about it, but having that number may help in future.

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By *ourNextAddictionMan  over a year ago

Somerset


"At least report it to police as a theft and get a crime number. The police will do sod all about it, but having that number may help in future."

This. You need to show you’ve been proactive.

Crime ref # that’ll then support any claims you bring against him in the small claims court. Most small claims cases can be won with a well prepared individual without the need for a lawyer.

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies. Saying I need to make a civil claim against them. I think it's crap so have made a formal complaint. I'm currently going after the man who paid for all this. I think I need a solicitor lol. My van was parked in a rented bay from council and I'm awaiting refund as no longer need.

"

Have a look at the government online money claim, it replaces small claims courts and works really well, I’ve done a few and got my money within a a few weeks. This sounds a bit more complex though , like he had rights to enter abs remove the items ? If he didn’t I would have thought it’s a criminal matter / theft

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The man isn't from the council is he?..

Nope ??"

Well as your van and all contents have been disposed of and it was in a council bay, it sounds like the bay being repossessed? What possible motive could this man have?

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"At least report it to police as a theft and get a crime number. The police will do sod all about it, but having that number may help in future.

This. You need to show you’ve been proactive.

Crime ref # that’ll then support any claims you bring against him in the small claims court. Most small claims cases can be won with a well prepared individual without the need for a lawyer.

"

If it’s theft the criminal court will determine criminal compensation, small claims is for civil matters only , you cannot sue someone fir theft or burglary , they are crimes

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By *he_Last_TitanMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies. Saying I need to make a civil claim against them. I think it's crap so have made a formal complaint. I'm currently going after the man who paid for all this. I think I need a solicitor lol. My van was parked in a rented bay from council and I'm awaiting refund as no longer need.

"

Your complaint should generate some traction here. That's been my experience. The police are overstretched and under resourced. Unless you push the right buttons they won't pursue something like this.

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By *he_Last_TitanMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"At least report it to police as a theft and get a crime number. The police will do sod all about it, but having that number may help in future.

This. You need to show you’ve been proactive.

Crime ref # that’ll then support any claims you bring against him in the small claims court. Most small claims cases can be won with a well prepared individual without the need for a lawyer.

If it’s theft the criminal court will determine criminal compensation, small claims is for civil matters only , you cannot sue someone fir theft or burglary , they are crimes "

You can pursue a private prosecution however.

Will be costly, but it's possible the CPS will take it over, if it starts to gain traction. However, as I said in the last post - I would see where the complaint gets you first.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Without knowing the where or why of where your caravan was...

The definition of Criminal Damage: The Criminal Damage Act 1971 classifies criminal damage as: 'A person who, without lawful excuse, destroys or damages any property belonging to another, intending to destroy or damage any such property, or being reckless as to whether any such property would be destroyed or damaged.

Criminal damage should be reported to police as a police matter.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thanks it's not a lot so yes small claims. He has enough money for this. Ta"

FYI but do check, it can go to 10k but often sub 5k.

e took a builder to small claims about ten years ago he left the extension half done - that was paid for by us - he left for another job and left us helf way through so lying about broken leg etc etc - though we did not pay him for the whole project he still left us i limbo and time and money spent chasing him getting new builders went to small clamis for just over 4k we won he would not pay but we knew he has a newish bmw not on lease etc - got high court sherrifs and the fool had to pay the baliffis close to 7k inc costs for the removal and ret of his car, lol. we got our 4k and it worth the effort and hoepflly taught him a lesson not to lie to people

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

Why would a stranger go to the expense of paying for skips and paying to have your caravan crushed ?

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By *ig1gaz1Man  over a year ago

bradford


"A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies. Saying I need to make a civil claim against them. I think it's crap so have made a formal complaint. I'm currently going after the man who paid for all this. I think I need a solicitor lol. My van was parked in a rented bay from council and I'm awaiting refund as no longer need.

"

Im also questioning why

Though im wondering where your belongings was and if you had stored them in a caravan ?

Are you in a rented property or bought.

Has your property had warnings not to have a caravan on it.

? are you saying your caravan was in a council bay and paid for

or are you saying your van was in the bay?

was you living in the caravan?

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By *cousemMan  over a year ago

Liverpool

Hi

If you private message me with some more details I may be able to offer some advice

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By *ig1gaz1Man  over a year ago

bradford


"A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies."

you need to answer the above comment

but the reference above is theft and criminal damage.

The skip company must give the details over for removing the caravan and hire of there skips.

Therefore following up with the user.

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"At least report it to police as a theft and get a crime number. The police will do sod all about it, but having that number may help in future."

Yep all done

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"Why would a stranger go to the expense of paying for skips and paying to have your caravan crushed ? "

Today they claimed it was theirs to dispose of

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

How do you know the man drilled the hitch lock out if the caravan got crushed ?

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"At least report it to police as a theft and get a crime number. The police will do sod all about it, but having that number may help in future.

This. You need to show you’ve been proactive.

Crime ref # that’ll then support any claims you bring against him in the small claims court. Most small claims cases can be won with a well prepared individual without the need for a lawyer.

If it’s theft the criminal court will determine criminal compensation, small claims is for civil matters only , you cannot sue someone fir theft or burglary , they are crimes "

See police saying they made no profit and spent money so civil.

Currently the person is saying it's theirs to dispose off

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"The man isn't from the council is he?..

Nope ??

Well as your van and all contents have been disposed of and it was in a council bay, it sounds like the bay being repossessed? What possible motive could this man have?"

Nope I aim due a refund ??.

These people seem to seriously believe it was theirs to dispose off. Council have been fantastic.

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies. Saying I need to make a civil claim against them. I think it's crap so have made a formal complaint. I'm currently going after the man who paid for all this. I think I need a solicitor lol. My van was parked in a rented bay from council and I'm awaiting refund as no longer need.

Have a look at the government online money claim, it replaces small claims courts and works really well, I’ve done a few and got my money within a a few weeks. This sounds a bit more complex though , like he had rights to enter abs remove the items ? If he didn’t I would have thought it’s a criminal matter / theft "

Cab have sad as u have. Police say no profit so no crime.

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies. Saying I need to make a civil claim against them. I think it's crap so have made a formal complaint. I'm currently going after the man who paid for all this. I think I need a solicitor lol. My van was parked in a rented bay from council and I'm awaiting refund as no longer need.

Your complaint should generate some traction here. That's been my experience. The police are overstretched and under resourced. Unless you push the right buttons they won't pursue something like this. "

Thanks

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"

Cab have sad as u have. Police say no profit so no crime. "

But surely it is theft of your belongings and caravan

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"How do you know the man drilled the hitch lock out if the caravan got crushed ? "

I have a witness and broken drill bit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"At least report it to police as a theft and get a crime number. The police will do sod all about it, but having that number may help in future.

This. You need to show you’ve been proactive.

Crime ref # that’ll then support any claims you bring against him in the small claims court. Most small claims cases can be won with a well prepared individual without the need for a lawyer.

If it’s theft the criminal court will determine criminal compensation, small claims is for civil matters only , you cannot sue someone fir theft or burglary , they are crimes

See police saying they made no profit and spent money so civil.

Currently the person is saying it's theirs to dispose off "

Do you have any proof of ownership?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP

No offence, but b4 you proceed and as i suggested via small claims court but your choice - check that you have legal grounds to be there and what was happening before. If you still feel the law is on your side, then as suggested earlier consider winning the claim but be warned, what assests does the other person have.

I've seen and heard about several people winning their case only to find out the law breakers have nothing in their name so all a waste of time an effort.

You will already know this - people driving around in new cars are often on lease/hp etc and the smart house is rented and more often they are not paying their rent etc

so do your homework before you proceed.

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By *atriciayoiditTV/TS  over a year ago

hatfield


"A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies. Saying I need to make a civil claim against them. I think it's crap so have made a formal complaint. I'm currently going after the man who paid for all this. I think I need a solicitor lol. My van was parked in a rented bay from council and I'm awaiting refund as no longer need.

"

we need a new legal system..you will realise this as time goes on..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why would someone take someone’s caravan and crush it? There’s way more to this.

I’ll come back to the thread when the op has actually revealed that they’d had letters or notices of possession for whatever reason and had been illegally parking the caravan and warned about repercussions but didn’t do anything. Now it’s too late.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma

Was your caravan insured in any way? If it was claim and let them deal with this person.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"Why would someone take someone’s caravan and crush it? There’s way more to this.

I’ll come back to the thread when the op has actually revealed that they’d had letters or notices of possession for whatever reason and had been illegally parking the caravan and warned about repercussions but didn’t do anything. Now it’s too late. "

I tend to agree.

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By *oly Fuck Sticks BatmanCouple  over a year ago

here & there


"How much is your claim. Reason I ask is you could do it via small claims court - look it up google and quiet cheap but take advice.

Don't forget, you may win in small claims but if the man does not have a penny to their name you wont get anyhting

Thanks it's not a lot so yes small claims. He has enough money for this. Ta"

Small claims is sub 10k

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By *oly Fuck Sticks BatmanCouple  over a year ago

here & there

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By *oly Fuck Sticks BatmanCouple  over a year ago

here & there

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Am alone in thinking there is more to this story than we are being told

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman  over a year ago

lancashire


"A man I have since found enough details to know who he is

I do not know him and do not know why he has done the following.

He drilled my hitch lock of my caravan broke in through window, hired skips then emptied my belongings into skips then paid for a skip company to remove my caravan. The police have been arses and will not investigate further than skip companies. Saying I need to make a civil claim against them. I think it's crap so have made a formal complaint. I'm currently going after the man who paid for all this. I think I need a solicitor lol. My van was parked in a rented bay from council and I'm awaiting refund as no longer need.

"

You can get an hours free advice with a solicitor...check out your local solicitor offices to see who can advice you best. Good luck.

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"Was your caravan insured in any way? If it was claim and let them deal with this person."

No due to location.

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon


"Why would someone take someone’s caravan and crush it? There’s way more to this.

I’ll come back to the thread when the op has actually revealed that they’d had letters or notices of possession for whatever reason and had been illegally parking the caravan and warned about repercussions but didn’t do anything. Now it’s too late. "

Not at all.

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By *lut and GG girl OP   Couple  over a year ago

Basildon

Over all update. They believe van was there after friend died there saying. They taken the wrong van. My bay no is 38 there's is 47 they have confirmed. This with proof. Well you took my stuff. Bloody twats. Think they check expecially after 2 people told them. They now gone silent as they know they have fucked up. All I need is there house number and I can get cracking.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The man isn't from the council is he?..

Nope ??

Well as your van and all contents have been disposed of and it was in a council bay, it sounds like the bay being repossessed? What possible motive could this man have?"

That'll be where the plot thickens and unfortunately we'll never find out....

Unless we see it on the telly ... 'Pay or we'll take it away'

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