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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
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"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
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Giving off feminine energy right there let them do it for you and they will be happy about it!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Love the chance to be nice and/or helpful with nothing expected in return. Last time for me was loading a woman’s car in IKEA car park. Being a gent is very satisfying |
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over a year ago
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At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
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over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis."
Trust me, I have this problem too sometimes …and I’m 5’6” I had to jump and grab, and other times I had guys get me stuff at the back of the top shelves cos I also can’t reach.
This problem is real |
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"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
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I've always helped people when I can |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
I've always helped people when I can"
Do you help your self to free stuff
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Trust me, I have this problem too sometimes …and I’m 5’6” I had to jump and grab, and other times I had guys get me stuff at the back of the top shelves cos I also can’t reach.
This problem is real "
How would you feel if YOU were lifted up a la Dirty Dancing to grab that item yourself? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Trust me, I have this problem too sometimes …and I’m 5’6” I had to jump and grab, and other times I had guys get me stuff at the back of the top shelves cos I also can’t reach.
This problem is real "
Nooooooo
The only thing I have had trouble with was getting a copy of Fiesta of the top shelf of the newsagent when puberty came a calling. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis."
Yeah well go to Tesco Bridgend and ask them for the footage of the the milk section where their mars milkshakes were. First you’d see me trying to smack a bottle down with a French stick before clocking that guy and asking him. |
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over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Trust me, I have this problem too sometimes …and I’m 5’6” I had to jump and grab, and other times I had guys get me stuff at the back of the top shelves cos I also can’t reach.
This problem is real
How would you feel if YOU were lifted up a la Dirty Dancing to grab that item yourself?"
That’s exactly what I need!! that’d be the best grab and it’d actually pay off all the yoga classes I’ve taken so far |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nah, I very rarely go out of my way to help or compliment someone in real life.
I think it's because I have high expectations of people.
Probably something I should work on |
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"I take my mop x
I send my child up, a bit like chimney sweeping, but without the chimney. And soot. And confined space. You get the idea
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You think I'm kidding! You should watch a woman in a wheelchair, with a clip on trolley, hoisting a 4yo into the air to get items off shelves. It's like poetry in motion |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Yeah well go to Tesco Bridgend and ask them for the footage of the the milk section where their mars milkshakes were. First you’d see me trying to smack a bottle down with a French stick before clocking that guy and asking him. "
You see that’s where you went wrong if you had used a Welsh stick you would have reached the said liquid mars bar no problem. Those French sticks are not all they are cracked up to be? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
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Us talker guys love it when people ask us to reach things lol. Makes us feel like giants |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Trust me, I have this problem too sometimes …and I’m 5’6” I had to jump and grab, and other times I had guys get me stuff at the back of the top shelves cos I also can’t reach.
This problem is real
How would you feel if YOU were lifted up a la Dirty Dancing to grab that item yourself?
That’s exactly what I need!! that’d be the best grab and it’d actually pay off all the yoga classes I’ve taken so far "
atta girl!
"Nobody puts Baby in the corner, not according to the merchandising layout sheets anyway, I think it's the end of Aisle 19 instead." |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I take my mop x
I send my child up, a bit like chimney sweeping, but without the chimney. And soot. And confined space. You get the idea
You think I'm kidding! You should watch a woman in a wheelchair, with a clip on trolley, hoisting a 4yo into the air to get items off shelves. It's like poetry in motion "
Well you get it done xxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I usually shop with my friend, who's 5'2". I'm 6'4", so I get the stuff from the top shelves, she gets the stuff from the bottom. "
Sounds like the perfect symbiotic relationship |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I usually shop with my friend, who's 5'2". I'm 6'4", so I get the stuff from the top shelves, she gets the stuff from the bottom. "
This is a euphemism.........right? |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"I take my mop x
I send my child up, a bit like chimney sweeping, but without the chimney. And soot. And confined space. You get the idea
You think I'm kidding! You should watch a woman in a wheelchair, with a clip on trolley, hoisting a 4yo into the air to get items off shelves. It's like poetry in motion
Well you get it done xxx"
SORTED! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I usually shop with my friend, who's 5'2". I'm 6'4", so I get the stuff from the top shelves, she gets the stuff from the bottom.
Sounds like the perfect symbiotic relationship "
We argue about the stuff in the middle |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I usually shop with my friend, who's 5'2". I'm 6'4", so I get the stuff from the top shelves, she gets the stuff from the bottom.
Sounds like the perfect symbiotic relationship
We argue about the stuff in the middle "
Definitely a euphemism |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"I usually shop with my friend, who's 5'2". I'm 6'4", so I get the stuff from the top shelves, she gets the stuff from the bottom.
Sounds like the perfect symbiotic relationship
We argue about the stuff in the middle "
That sounds like marriage, doesn't it? |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis."
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
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Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back."
Nonsense utter nonsense |
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense "
How the heck do you know if it's nonsense for the person posting? They know what they experience.
Try shopping from a wheelchair with a clip on trolley and then come back with your nonsense |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense "
Do you shop in many supermarkets? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot"
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets?" of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious. "
With your bare hands? |
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By *rad670Man
over a year ago
South Lakes |
It's always a nice feeling to be asked to help someone, I'm old school and despise the fact that some of the current generation see gentlemanly acts a sexist. It probably made his day you asked. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious.
With your bare hands? "
Teeth actually. |
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"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
I've always helped people when I can
Do you help your self to free stuff
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Depends what you meant by free stuff |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
STOKE ON TRENT |
"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
I've always helped people when I can
Do you help your self to free stuff
Depends what you meant by free stuff "
Shoplifting
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was asked to help look for some obscure baking ingredient once. I must have looked an efficient baker because Im not staff. We didnt find it, but got the next best thing. |
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"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
I've always helped people when I can
Do you help your self to free stuff
Depends what you meant by free stuff
Shoplifting
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Not a chance, I want to keep my clean record |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
STOKE ON TRENT |
"It's always a nice feeling to be asked to help someone, I'm old school and despise the fact that some of the current generation see gentlemanly acts a sexist. It probably made his day you asked."
Current generation?
No
Manners are manners |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind."
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
STOKE ON TRENT |
"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
I've always helped people when I can
Do you help your self to free stuff
Depends what you meant by free stuff
Shoplifting
Not a chance, I want to keep my clean record "
Oops never take kylie shopping then
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious.
With your bare hands? "
Job satisfaction and customer care? |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious.
With your bare hands?
Teeth actually."
Did you walk away like a boss? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
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You need a crook like a shepard to hoik the stuff off the back. Hate it when you have to start climbing |
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"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious.
With your bare hands? "
She didn't actually want it cut. She was struggling loading gravel in the car, and actually needed the timber in full sheets |
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
You need a crook like a shepard to hoik the stuff off the back. Hate it when you have to start climbing "
Use a 4yo. Absolute gamer changer |
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
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How many times do you have to get a worker to get you stuff from the top shelf in a supermarket?
On average per shop? |
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over a year ago
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"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious.
With your bare hands?
She didn't actually want it cut. She was struggling loading gravel in the car, and actually needed the timber in full sheets "
Completely irrelevant the timber went in the Volvo......... |
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
You need a crook like a shepard to hoik the stuff off the back. Hate it when you have to start climbing
Use a 4yo. Absolute gamer changer "
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"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious.
With your bare hands?
Teeth actually.
Did you walk away like a boss?"
I walked away like a normal chap who would do it again if asked. Did I feel like I had slayed a dragon........nah |
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Asking for help can go wrong as well. Back in 2013 in my old house I was sitting on my doorstep having a fag and when I went to go back in I could see a slug on the inside seal of my front door. Couldn’t close the door cos I’d get a squashed slug there, couldn’t move it or attempt to flick it off with anything cos slugs and polystyrene are the things I can’t be near or touch. Went to my neighbours house to ask for the son but he was out but his father offered his slug removal services. He was about 30 stone, could barely walk. I was like nah it’s fine I’ll get some hairspray and a lighter on it. He insisted, came hobbling round, got the slug off, as he was leaving he tripped over the step by my gate, went tumbling on the floor. I couldn’t get him up, he must’ve still had the slug in his hand cos he said he was gonna chuck it in the opposite neighbours skip yet it probably would’ve been mushed up in his hand. Had to enlist help again and flag these teenagers down to help me get him back on his feet. He was fine, but that stopped me asking for help off anyone for many years after. |
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
You need a crook like a shepard to hoik the stuff off the back. Hate it when you have to start climbing
Use a 4yo. Absolute gamer changer
Extendable toddler "
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"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
Agree with this 100% apart from the bit where you are deemed to not be hot
Today I cut up some timber in the B&Q carpark for a lady who was struggling. It took me 5 minutes at most. Was she hot who cares she was in need of assistance. Did I walk away feeling like I had slayed a dragon? I wouldn’t be so pretentious.
With your bare hands?
Teeth actually.
Did you walk away like a boss?
I walked away like a normal chap who would do it again if asked. Did I feel like I had slayed a dragon........nah"
Probably because Manchester lacks dragons. The OP is from Wales, aka the land of dragons |
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Trust me, I have this problem too sometimes …and I’m 5’6” I had to jump and grab, and other times I had guys get me stuff at the back of the top shelves cos I also can’t reach.
This problem is real "
I'm 5'9" and have also had this problem. Especially of the stock isn't at the edge of the shelf.
I had to go down the household aisle, pick up a mop off the shelf, go back to the high shelf, use the mop to push/pull what I wanted because I didn't want to ask someone to reach it. |
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Odd one.
A lady in heels tripped on some steps and fell down them breaking a heel.
I stopped to help her, she told me, “fuck off do I look like I need help”, stood up and fell down another five steps.
Just left her.
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I'm always helpful and its not just a damsel in distress. Earlier at the services I held the door for a woman pushing her partner in a wheelchair,they must have been about 15 metres away from the door. They said thankyou and I replied your very welcome. My good deed done for the day. |
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"Odd one.
A lady in heels tripped on some steps and fell down them breaking a heel.
I stopped to help her, she told me, “fuck off do I look like I need help”, stood up and fell down another five steps.
Just left her.
Respect involves reciprocity."
Do you not think there might have been something more going on there?? |
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Trust me, I have this problem too sometimes …and I’m 5’6” I had to jump and grab, and other times I had guys get me stuff at the back of the top shelves cos I also can’t reach.
This problem is real
I'm 5'9" and have also had this problem. Especially of the stock isn't at the edge of the shelf.
I had to go down the household aisle, pick up a mop off the shelf, go back to the high shelf, use the mop to push/pull what I wanted because I didn't want to ask someone to reach it. "
First world problems are a bitch.......
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over a year ago
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"Odd one.
A lady in heels tripped on some steps and fell down them breaking a heel.
I stopped to help her, she told me, “fuck off do I look like I need help”, stood up and fell down another five steps.
Just left her.
Respect involves reciprocity.
Do you not think there might have been something more going on there??"
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"Odd one.
A lady in heels tripped on some steps and fell down them breaking a heel.
I stopped to help her, she told me, “fuck off do I look like I need help”, stood up and fell down another five steps.
Just left her.
Respect involves reciprocity.
Do you not think there might have been something more going on there??
Like?"
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"Asking for help can go wrong as well. Back in 2013 in my old house I was sitting on my doorstep having a fag and when I went to go back in I could see a slug on the inside seal of my front door. Couldn’t close the door cos I’d get a squashed slug there, couldn’t move it or attempt to flick it off with anything cos slugs and polystyrene are the things I can’t be near or touch. Went to my neighbours house to ask for the son but he was out but his father offered his slug removal services. He was about 30 stone, could barely walk. I was like nah it’s fine I’ll get some hairspray and a lighter on it. He insisted, came hobbling round, got the slug off, as he was leaving he tripped over the step by my gate, went tumbling on the floor. I couldn’t get him up, he must’ve still had the slug in his hand cos he said he was gonna chuck it in the opposite neighbours skip yet it probably would’ve been mushed up in his hand. Had to enlist help again and flag these teenagers down to help me get him back on his feet. He was fine, but that stopped me asking for help off anyone for many years after. "
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over a year ago
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"Odd one.
A lady in heels tripped on some steps and fell down them breaking a heel.
I stopped to help her, she told me, “fuck off do I look like I need help”, stood up and fell down another five steps.
Just left her.
Respect involves reciprocity.
Do you not think there might have been something more going on there??
Like?
D*unk? On drugs? "
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over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
How many times do you have to get a worker to get you stuff from the top shelf in a supermarket?
On average per shop?"
I go Lidl now and get Asda delivery.
Lidl doesn't have high shelves like Asda-and now my local Morrisons who added a few feet to their shelving to accommodate the Amazon Prime goods.
I can't remember what the last thing I got help with was, but the worker had blonde hair.
He didn't walk away like a boss.
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"Odd one.
A lady in heels tripped on some steps and fell down them breaking a heel.
I stopped to help her, she told me, “fuck off do I look like I need help”, stood up and fell down another five steps.
Just left her.
Respect involves reciprocity.
Do you not think there might have been something more going on there??
Like?
D*unk? On drugs?
Well dressed, coherent, mouth like a…embarrassed, I can deal with, what’s wrong with a person offering gentleman help?"
I'm sure she was just a rude woman who enjoyed falling down steps
Appearances can be deceptive. |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"Odd one.
A lady in heels tripped on some steps and fell down them breaking a heel.
I stopped to help her, she told me, “fuck off do I look like I need help”, stood up and fell down another five steps.
Just left her.
Respect involves reciprocity.
Do you not think there might have been something more going on there??
Like?
D*unk? On drugs?
Well dressed, coherent, mouth like a…embarrassed, I can deal with, what’s wrong with a person offering gentleman help?
I'm sure she was just a rude woman who enjoyed falling down steps
Appearances can be deceptive. "
She is who she is, just crossed a few of my (old fashioned) values.
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
How many times do you have to get a worker to get you stuff from the top shelf in a supermarket?
On average per shop?
I go Lidl now and get Asda delivery.
Lidl doesn't have high shelves like Asda-and now my local Morrisons who added a few feet to their shelving to accommodate the Amazon Prime goods.
I can't remember what the last thing I got help with was, but the worker had blonde hair.
He didn't walk away like a boss.
"
So it’s a very irregular event. You also get home delivery’s ?
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"Asking for help can go wrong as well. Back in 2013 in my old house I was sitting on my doorstep having a fag and when I went to go back in I could see a slug on the inside seal of my front door. Couldn’t close the door cos I’d get a squashed slug there, couldn’t move it or attempt to flick it off with anything cos slugs and polystyrene are the things I can’t be near or touch. Went to my neighbours house to ask for the son but he was out but his father offered his slug removal services. He was about 30 stone, could barely walk. I was like nah it’s fine I’ll get some hairspray and a lighter on it. He insisted, came hobbling round, got the slug off, as he was leaving he tripped over the step by my gate, went tumbling on the floor. I couldn’t get him up, he must’ve still had the slug in his hand cos he said he was gonna chuck it in the opposite neighbours skip yet it probably would’ve been mushed up in his hand. Had to enlist help again and flag these teenagers down to help me get him back on his feet. He was fine, but that stopped me asking for help off anyone for many years after. "
Jeremy Beadle would have paid hood
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
How many times do you have to get a worker to get you stuff from the top shelf in a supermarket?
On average per shop?
I go Lidl now and get Asda delivery.
Lidl doesn't have high shelves like Asda-and now my local Morrisons who added a few feet to their shelving to accommodate the Amazon Prime goods.
I can't remember what the last thing I got help with was, but the worker had blonde hair.
He didn't walk away like a boss.
So it’s a very irregular event. You also get home delivery’s ?
Why even comment other than being obtuse?"
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
How many times do you have to get a worker to get you stuff from the top shelf in a supermarket?
On average per shop?
I go Lidl now and get Asda delivery.
Lidl doesn't have high shelves like Asda-and now my local Morrisons who added a few feet to their shelving to accommodate the Amazon Prime goods.
I can't remember what the last thing I got help with was, but the worker had blonde hair.
He didn't walk away like a boss.
So it’s a very irregular event. You also get home delivery’s ?
Why even comment other than being obtuse?"
Does it have to happen regularly? You called the OP out and I said I have struggled before and I'm taller than her.
A 5ft 9 man said he had trouble with a top shelf too.
Supermarket shelves aren't standard sizes you know. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
How many times do you have to get a worker to get you stuff from the top shelf in a supermarket?
On average per shop?
I go Lidl now and get Asda delivery.
Lidl doesn't have high shelves like Asda-and now my local Morrisons who added a few feet to their shelving to accommodate the Amazon Prime goods.
I can't remember what the last thing I got help with was, but the worker had blonde hair.
He didn't walk away like a boss.
So it’s a very irregular event. You also get home delivery’s ?
Why even comment other than being obtuse?
Does it have to happen regularly? You called the OP out and I said I have struggled before and I'm taller than her.
A 5ft 9 man said he had trouble with a top shelf too.
Supermarket shelves aren't standard sizes you know. "
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
How many times do you have to get a worker to get you stuff from the top shelf in a supermarket?
On average per shop?
I go Lidl now and get Asda delivery.
Lidl doesn't have high shelves like Asda-and now my local Morrisons who added a few feet to their shelving to accommodate the Amazon Prime goods.
I can't remember what the last thing I got help with was, but the worker had blonde hair.
He didn't walk away like a boss.
So it’s a very irregular event. You also get home delivery’s ?
Why even comment other than being obtuse?
Does it have to happen regularly? You called the OP out and I said I have struggled before and I'm taller than her.
A 5ft 9 man said he had trouble with a top shelf too.
Supermarket shelves aren't standard sizes you know. "
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"At 5’3” there ain’t many top shelves out of your reach?
Also retailers usually place such dreadful products lowdown so kids can get them and fuel the obesity crisis.
Are you serious? I'm 5ft 8 and some big supermarkets have shelves that even I struggle with; especially if what I want is almost out and there's only some at the back.
Nonsense utter nonsense
Do you shop in many supermarkets? of course I do.
At 5’ 8” you are possibly the ideal ergonomic person. Supermarkets are designed with you in mind.
Because I'm just above average height for a middle aged woman?
I still occasionally have trouble with items at the back of a top shelf and usually ask a taller worker to help me; which they are happy to do.
The OP is 5 inches shorter than me too.
How many times do you have to get a worker to get you stuff from the top shelf in a supermarket?
On average per shop?
I go Lidl now and get Asda delivery.
Lidl doesn't have high shelves like Asda-and now my local Morrisons who added a few feet to their shelving to accommodate the Amazon Prime goods.
I can't remember what the last thing I got help with was, but the worker had blonde hair.
He didn't walk away like a boss.
So it’s a very irregular event. You also get home delivery’s ?
Why even comment other than being obtuse?
Does it have to happen regularly? You called the OP out and I said I have struggled before and I'm taller than her.
A 5ft 9 man said he had trouble with a top shelf too.
Supermarket shelves aren't standard sizes you know.
That’s the issue they are modular standard sizes."
Until this year my local Morrisons shelves were just above my eye level and easy to reach (except the bread aisle which is against the wall.
The Asda and Tesco superstores shelves are much higher and I have to look up to the top shelves.
The local Co-op has a low ceiling and a low top shelf, so they aren't all standard sizes.
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"I truly give up .......bye
Blimey, it was only a discussion about shelves "
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"I truly give up .......bye
Blimey, it was only a discussion about shelves
Fucking hell. Good job I didn’t mention the time I nearly fell in a freezer in farm foods. "
A friend of mine (wheelchair user) fell face first into a freezer when she leaned into it. Apparently horrified the surrounding shoppers but she struggled to right herself because she was laughing too hysterically |
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"I truly give up .......bye
Blimey, it was only a discussion about shelves
Fucking hell. Good job I didn’t mention the time I nearly fell in a freezer in farm foods. "
Erm, the freezer at farm foods measures exactly 5'2" so you were never in any danger of falling in thank you very much.... |
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"I truly give up .......bye
Blimey, it was only a discussion about shelves
Fucking hell. Good job I didn’t mention the time I nearly fell in a freezer in farm foods. "
All the best stuff is at the bottom |
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"I truly give up .......bye
Blimey, it was only a discussion about shelves
Fucking hell. Good job I didn’t mention the time I nearly fell in a freezer in farm foods.
Erm, the freezer at farm foods measures exactly 5'2" so you were never in any danger of falling in thank you very much...."
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"I truly give up .......bye
Blimey, it was only a discussion about shelves
Fucking hell. Good job I didn’t mention the time I nearly fell in a freezer in farm foods.
Erm, the freezer at farm foods measures exactly 5'2" so you were never in any danger of falling in thank you very much....
I once got caught on the Rotisserie Chicken think and spent 5 minutes chuckling as I went round in circles before I was told off for putting my feet on the counter. Never shopped there again "
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If my sons see anyone struggling (make or female) they would offer assistance if they could help.
When they were younger they would shovel the snow off from our elderly neighbours paths.
On public transport they would give up their seats if someone had more need for them.
They never let me carry shopping and are just helpful in general.
My daughter is the same way. |
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That’s the issue they are modular standard sizes.
Are we really arguing about supermarket geometry? "
The shop I worked in as a teenager, the shelves were just built with strips of slots in the back then these triangular bits that fitted into the slots at whichever height you wanted and then the shelves came in two parts that slotted together on top of those triangular bits. You could put the shelves at any height you wanted up to the very top if you wanted but we usually kept them at least 20-30cm from the very top. |
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"I truly give up .......bye
Blimey, it was only a discussion about shelves
Fucking hell. Good job I didn’t mention the time I nearly fell in a freezer in farm foods. "
Their freezer lids are spring loaded! Lean in for a pizza and you're a goner!! |
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In answer to the OP, one of my partners and my dad are over 6ft and live alone so as a result, everything in their homes is really high . I'm 5ft 7 but can only see my eyes in the mirrors and can't get things in the kitchen. I regularly have to ask for help there.
Occasionally I do in the supermarket if things are at the back of a high, deep shelf. I'm also occasionally asked to help shorter people than myself. Always happy to. Seems to usually be a little old lady after worthers originals or wine gums. It's so mean they put those on the top shelf! |
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"Fuck that. Earlier this year I was told to cross the road because I’m a r@pist/murderer
They can fend for themselves "
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"Fuck that. Earlier this year I was told to cross the road because I’m a r@pist/murderer
They can fend for themselves
How rude. Just because you're a r@pist/murderer doesn't mean you deserve that treatment right!? "
Rapists are people too!
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"Was in Tesco’s earlier and as I’m vertically challenged I couldn’t reach this mars milkshake on the top shelf so I asked some dude if he could reach it for me, said please and thank you and was polite and he did it with a big smile and walked off like he’d just slayed a dragon.
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I always help anyone in need, an older gent the other day was struggling to read some toy thing so I asked him if he’d like it explained and he said yes please, it was for his great granddaughters 10th birthday |
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Even worse though. Try getting Beef Hoola Hoops from the bottom shelf in Asda when it's only half full!!
It's an inch off the ground and you have to get down on your hands and knees to teach them. I mentioned to the staff that crawling on the floor to reach products was demeaning and unhygienic. She was fine but might as well have said "so fucking what!?" |
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"Even worse though. Try getting Beef Hoola Hoops from the bottom shelf in Asda when it's only half full!!
It's an inch off the ground and you have to get down on your hands and knees to teach them. I mentioned to the staff that crawling on the floor to reach products was demeaning and unhygienic. She was fine but might as well have said "so fucking what!?" "
4yos. Good for getting stuff off the lower shelf too. I'm formulating a business plan, whereby I employ pre school children to act as personal shoppers |
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Last time I was in Aldi I was trying to get bread off the top shelf and a young guy said he'd get that for me. I said thank you very much and that it was very kind of him. Hi girlfriend wasn't bothered that he'd helped me. It's nice to know there are still good people out there x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's polite to help others if asked. I've also offered to help when I see someone trying to reach the top shelf. And yes it does make you feel good when you get the chance.
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over a year ago
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For some reason I thought you are taller? Anyway, I'd generally help anyone who looked like they need it in those circumstances, doesn't have to be a hot woman. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I put on my best bitch face when out so I don't get bothered by people...but the old ladies...arghhh they don't fall for it,see right through me and I end up doing everything I can to help 'em out! I think maybe they deliberately target me and my bitch face, just see it as a challenge |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes of course.....and friends, random strangers in need and the elderly.
Asked an elderly woman if she needed a hand with her bags last week as she was walking up a bit of an incline but she refused and gave me a shoddy look. I think she thought she may not have got them back |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Doughnut loves helping anyone, if you ever need a hand with a buggy or getting a cat from a tree he is your man, he was even helping the guys taking speakers into the venue we was at the other day!
Danish x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There was a bloke in front of me in Aldi who didn't have his wallet at the checkout. He had a full bag. It only came to £10!! Thought it would be £40.
If i'd known it was a tenner i'd have bought it for him.
Felt stupid that Aldi was so cheap it stopped me helping out!! Lol |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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Recently went to a site meeting and while walking down a corridor with a female engineer half my age I offered to help carry some heavy steel samples she was carrying to the meeting while other male engineers her age ignored her
She had a go at me for being sexest and wrote an email to the company to complain about me
It's my company so I ignored it but I'm of the age where thats normal for me and it won't stop me.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have no problems with helping ladies I was ask othe day at Tesco by an old lady to reach some kitchen rolls at back of shelves she said thank you then we got talking about stuff and ended up asking me to go for a coffee |
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Always. A few years ago I held a door open for a lady going into a shop and she said something along the lines of... "what the fuck are you doing I'm not a cripple you know..." which made me a bit sore for a few weeks but its nice to be nice to others... |
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"Always. A few years ago I held a door open for a lady going into a shop and she said something along the lines of... "what the fuck are you doing I'm not a cripple you know..." which made me a bit sore for a few weeks but its nice to be nice to others... "
Can’t lie I’d have shut the door on her again |
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Its nice to be nice bit i would help a shorter man or woman i also stop if i see anyone with a flat tyre or broke down, but i grew in in the country so people could be stuck for hours, miles from anywhere. |
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"Not just men. I like helping people. Small acts of kindness, assistance and generally just being nice is so so important.
I've raised all my boys to be gentlemen to everyone and it shows in how they treat others.
Sadly though not everyone is so kind and if I asked a bloke in Tesco to help he might not be so keen to since I'm not deemed to be hot.
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Wait, who said you are not hot? I think you are hit and I am sure others will agree. |
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I am always doing the top shelf thing for ladies and shorter guys.
No point being tall if you can't use it.
I help people carry things, push cars and once spent a night helping cars out of ditches in the snow.
It feels good so is not purely altruistic |
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By *unBob85Man
over a year ago
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"Manners cost nothing, I hold doors open and wouldn’t watch a woman struggle to reach something or put her shopping into her car "
Exactly this, for anyone not just females. Gender doesn’t play a part in manners, it’s the right thing to do, I was brought up to be polite and courteous, it costs nothing and inwardly makes me smile doing my good deeds for the day. |
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