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Where I live, there are fireworks going off all year round. So I am really thankful that my dog is ok with this. | |||
"Thank God my dog isn’t bothered by them. He’s not the brightest, bless him, and this helps because he doesn’t overthink it
Where I live, there are fireworks going off all year round. So I am really thankful that my dog is ok with this."If I was your dog or if I was scared of fireworks, I think your chest would keep me fairly distracted enough. Wow  | |||
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"People enjoy fireworks like you enjoy dogs, it's called personal choice." Not having that. Our dogs don’t cause distress to fireworks. The same can’t be said the other way round. | |||
"People enjoy fireworks like you enjoy dogs, it's called personal choice. Not having that. Our dogs don’t cause distress to fireworks. The same can’t be said the other way round. " So because you chose to get a dog no-one near you can enjoy fireworks and your needs are more important? I'm afraid the world doesn't work like that lol | |||
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Do you see how you may come across by complaining about a yearly issue lol? Got to love human nature  | |||
"Dog shit on the pavement left by inconsiderate owners causes everyone distress
Do you see how you may come across by complaining about a yearly issue lol? Got to love human nature "Responsible dog owners don't leave dogs mess on the pavement,a dick head with a dog is still a dick head,and there is no defence for it,but just because some owners do,doesn't mean all dogs need to be distressed | |||
"Dog shit on the pavement left by inconsiderate owners causes everyone distress
Do you see how you may come across by complaining about a yearly issue lol? Got to love human nature
Responsible dog owners don't leave dogs mess on the pavement,a dick head with a dog is still a dick head,and there is no defence for it,but just because some owners do,doesn't mean all dogs need to be distressed"I agree. I was just coming up with an equally biased argument 
Look, many people do things that other people don't like... that's life. Look on the bright side, people aren't doing stupid fireworks every day lol. Cant sleep  | |||
"Dog shit on the pavement left by inconsiderate owners causes everyone distress
Do you see how you may come across by complaining about a yearly issue lol? Got to love human nature
Responsible dog owners don't leave dogs mess on the pavement,a dick head with a dog is still a dick head,and there is no defence for it,but just because some owners do,doesn't mean all dogs need to be distressed
I agree. I was just coming up with an equally biased argument
Look, many people do things that other people don't like... that's life. Look on the bright side, people aren't doing stupid fireworks every day lol. Cant sleep "Problem is where I used to live they set fireworks off all the time. I'm in favour in them being unavailable to the general public | |||
"Dog shit on the pavement left by inconsiderate owners causes everyone distress
Do you see how you may come across by complaining about a yearly issue lol? Got to love human nature
Responsible dog owners don't leave dogs mess on the pavement,a dick head with a dog is still a dick head,and there is no defence for it,but just because some owners do,doesn't mean all dogs need to be distressed
I agree. I was just coming up with an equally biased argument
Look, many people do things that other people don't like... that's life. Look on the bright side, people aren't doing stupid fireworks every day lol. Cant sleep
Problem is where I used to live they set fireworks off all the time. I'm in favour in them being unavailable to the general public"Where did you used to live? Yes that's inconsiderate, yep maybe restricted to licensed fireworks displays and that's it | |||
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"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india" Many Indians live here. | |||
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"Dog shit on the pavement left by inconsiderate owners causes everyone distress
Do you see how you may come across by complaining about a yearly issue lol? Got to love human nature
Responsible dog owners don't leave dogs mess on the pavement,a dick head with a dog is still a dick head,and there is no defence for it,but just because some owners do,doesn't mean all dogs need to be distressed
I agree. I was just coming up with an equally biased argument
Look, many people do things that other people don't like... that's life. Look on the bright side, people aren't doing stupid fireworks every day lol. Cant sleep
Problem is where I used to live they set fireworks off all the time. I'm in favour in them being unavailable to the general public
Where did you used to live? Yes that's inconsiderate, yep maybe restricted to licensed fireworks displays and that's it"Yes it was mainly idiots setting them off for no reason,the local shops sold them all year | |||
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"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Many Indians live here. " Yes and why can't they have organised displays on the day,not weeks before and after and every family setting off their own,not necessary | |||
"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Many Indians live here. Yes and why can't they have organised displays on the day,not weeks before and after and every family setting off their own,not necessary" Presumably you support only organised displays across the board then? 5th November only; organised displays and not each family having their own fireworks in their gardens? | |||
"Stick your fireworks where the sun don’t shine. Why do people feel the need to let fireworks off for weeks pre and post the 5th November?" last night it was Diwali. So I expected fireworks. I just got my cats in early x | |||
"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Many Indians live here. Yes and why can't they have organised displays on the day,not weeks before and after and every family setting off their own,not necessary" Sorry, but for Guy Fawkes night, are people not setting their own off too? | |||
"Stick your fireworks where the sun don’t shine. Why do people feel the need to let fireworks off for weeks pre and post the 5th November? last night it was Diwali. So I expected fireworks. I just got my cats in early x " I expected it too x | |||
"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india" Were you in India on December 25th? If you were then did you celebrate Christmas or would you have if you were? What do you mean by ‘had to put up with it’? How did it inconvenience you so much that you had to put up with it? Is that your attitude to every religious celebration? Do you moan that you have to put up with Easter? | |||
"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Many Indians live here. Yes and why can't they have organised displays on the day,not weeks before and after and every family setting off their own,not necessary Presumably you support only organised displays across the board then? 5th November only; organised displays and not each family having their own fireworks in their gardens? " Definitely,let's face it home displays are crap anyway,I love a good organised display as much as anyone,no need to do it at home | |||
"We don't have dogs but we do have a very young child who doesn't like the loud bangs. It's pretty much constant here from September through to January/February and oftentimes it's just wankers chucking them about in the street, not people enjoying a display. It keeps our child awake or frightens her awake and it's not pleasant. " I’m sorry to hear that, I hope she’s ok. I used to be scared of fireworks when I was a kid so I know how she feels. I used to hate bonfire night and refused to go outside. | |||
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"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Many Indians live here. Yes and why can't they have organised displays on the day,not weeks before and after and every family setting off their own,not necessary Presumably you support only organised displays across the board then? 5th November only; organised displays and not each family having their own fireworks in their gardens? Definitely,let's face it home displays are crap anyway,I love a good organised display as much as anyone,no need to do it at home" The point is, it's peoples choice. You've clearly been to some pants home displays lol. Stop being a karen  | |||
"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Were you in India on December 25th? If you were then did you celebrate Christmas or would you have if you were? What do you mean by ‘had to put up with it’? How did it inconvenience you so much that you had to put up with it? Is that your attitude to every religious celebration? Do you moan that you have to put up with Easter?" I wasn't there on Christmas,but if I had been I wouldn't have put others out over it,I respect the cultures I visit | |||
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"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Were you in India on December 25th? If you were then did you celebrate Christmas or would you have if you were? What do you mean by ‘had to put up with it’? How did it inconvenience you so much that you had to put up with it? Is that your attitude to every religious celebration? Do you moan that you have to put up with Easter? I wasn't there on Christmas,but if I had been I wouldn't have put others out over it,I respect the cultures I visit" They’re not visiting, they live here. I’m happy that I live in a society that mostly embraces different religions and cultures rather than insists they all follow our ways and traditions. Are the fireworks really putting you out? Are they stopping you from doing anything or going anywhere? If you can’t hear your tv then put the subtitles on. | |||
"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Were you in India on December 25th? If you were then did you celebrate Christmas or would you have if you were? What do you mean by ‘had to put up with it’? How did it inconvenience you so much that you had to put up with it? Is that your attitude to every religious celebration? Do you moan that you have to put up with Easter? I wasn't there on Christmas,but if I had been I wouldn't have put others out over it,I respect the cultures I visit They’re not visiting, they live here. I’m happy that I live in a society that mostly embraces different religions and cultures rather than insists they all follow our ways and traditions. Are the fireworks really putting you out? Are they stopping you from doing anything or going anywhere? If you can’t hear your tv then put the subtitles on. " That's the kind of society I want to live in too. | |||
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"Me to until it affects my life,you try staying up all night trying to calm two manic panicked dogs" I don’t have any dogs because I don’t want to have to deal with things like them barking all night when there are fireworks going off. When you got the dogs weren’t you aware that dogs are scared of fireworks and start barking at them? You must have known what you were getting yourself into when you got the dogs so you shouldn’t have got them if you can’t handle it. | |||
"Me to until it affects my life,you try staying up all night trying to calm two manic panicked dogs I don’t have any dogs because I don’t want to have to deal with things like them barking all night when there are fireworks going off. When you got the dogs weren’t you aware that dogs are scared of fireworks and start barking at them? You must have known what you were getting yourself into when you got the dogs so you shouldn’t have got them if you can’t handle it. " Not all dogs are.. when I had my dog he loved them.. ( think he loved the fuss people made about him when he was there more but) he would happily go to displays and lay down and not bat an eyelid. My cats watched from the window this evening. Yes I know some animals dont like them but tonight and all this weekend I expect them. Saying that I do think that after this weekend that till new years they should not be allowed. | |||
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"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Many Indians live here. Yes and why can't they have organised displays on the day,not weeks before and after and every family setting off their own,not necessary Presumably you support only organised displays across the board then? 5th November only; organised displays and not each family having their own fireworks in their gardens? Definitely,let's face it home displays are crap anyway,I love a good organised display as much as anyone,no need to do it at home The point is, it's peoples choice. You've clearly been to some pants home displays lol. Stop being a karen "Ahh, trying to win an argument by using a sexist and ageist term, to denigrate women. Well done | |||
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"Why does it all have to get so personal can't we have a day of being nice to everyone" Because the art of debate is easily lost when personal subjects are mentioned. There are two answers. One if enough people petioned against home fireworks then change will happen. Two there are competent vets with good advice for sound related stressed out pets. | |||
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"It's the way of the world unfortunately, humans have a sense of self entitlement and don't consider others. I don't think anyone would mind a few fireworks in your back garden but when it's all night long, it shouldn't be allowed. I've had fireworks going off by me for at least 2 weeks now. If you want to watch fireworks all night, go to an organised event. Think about a dog shaking and terrified because they don't know what's going on. Or a child with autism who can't stand the noise, a new mom trying to get their baby to sleep or even ptsd sufferers who can be triggered by loud bangs. It's not being a Karen or being difficult,it's basic consideration for other's. " Well said  | |||
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"People enjoy fireworks like you enjoy dogs, it's called personal choice." So all anti social behaviour now can be hidden behind the excuse of personal choice now? Fireworks should be allowed but organised events only and briefly for a few days on public sale around the 5th. Other than that really don't understand why people need to let them off for Halloween,or a birthday or new year Eve or the opening of a tin can. | |||
"People enjoy fireworks like you enjoy dogs, it's called personal choice. So all anti social behaviour now can be hidden behind the excuse of personal choice now? Fireworks should be allowed but organised events only and briefly for a few days on public sale around the 5th. Other than that really don't understand why people need to let them off for Halloween,or a birthday or new year Eve or the opening of a tin can." I get some of this but a friend of mine has PTSD ex forces so it's not just dogs. I'm in Lewis so in the middle of calibrations and love November 5 | |||
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"Stick your fireworks where the sun don’t shine. Why do people feel the need to let fireworks off for weeks pre and post the 5th November?" It's Diwali too. | |||
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"I’m very much in favour of only organised displays. We I love they will be going off for weeks every night. The other thing I was listening to today other than the effects on pets was triggers caused to many war vets. The better that was talking said that when it was just one night he had coping strategies but when they went off randomly it would trigger bad memories" | |||
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"And it's not just pets traumatised by fireworks, it is the woodland animals also...then there is the environmental impact Get them gone I say" Be gone with the heathen amongst us! | |||
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"And it's not just pets traumatised by fireworks, it is the woodland animals also...then there is the environmental impact Get them gone I say Be gone with the heathen amongst us!"That sh*t has turned into the bombing of Baghdad! | |||
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"And it's not just pets traumatised by fireworks, it is the woodland animals also...then there is the environmental impact Get them gone I say Be gone with the heathen amongst us!"Oh shush Huey, you never want me gone  | |||
"And it's not just pets traumatised by fireworks, it is the woodland animals also...then there is the environmental impact Get them gone I say Be gone with the heathen amongst us! That sh*t has turned into the bombing of Baghdad!"Outkast did a song about Bombs over Baghdad | |||
"And it's not just pets traumatised by fireworks, it is the woodland animals also...then there is the environmental impact Get them gone I say Be gone with the heathen amongst us! That sh*t has turned into the bombing of Baghdad!
Outkast did a song about Bombs over Baghdad "It should have mentioned Guy Fawkes! | |||
"And it's not just pets traumatised by fireworks, it is the woodland animals also...then there is the environmental impact Get them gone I say Be gone with the heathen amongst us!
Oh shush Huey, you never want me gone " You get a pass ? | |||
"And it's not just pets traumatised by fireworks, it is the woodland animals also...then there is the environmental impact Get them gone I say Be gone with the heathen amongst us!
Oh shush Huey, you never want me gone You get a pass ?"That was a heart when I posted!!!! | |||
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"Our dog watches them for a while but soon gets bored. We acclimatized him as a puppy, so he's not bothered by fireworks, guns, cannon or any other sudden loud noises - which is important for a reenactment dog." So are you saying that if a dog’s scared of fireworks then it’s the owners fault for not getting them used to loud noises when they were a puppy? Are you accusing all the people who’s dogs are barking of being bad dog owners and not training them properly? That’s not what I think by the way, I’m just checking that’s what Pud and/or Bryan meant.... | |||
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"People enjoy fireworks like you enjoy dogs, it's called personal choice." Aye but dogs don’t make booming noises and frighten everyone around them. It’s about time fireworks were done away with. They are outdated, and like cocks, seen one you’ve seen them all | |||
"It’s the soldiers with ptsd I feel sorry for " They don't give a damn. | |||
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"Our dog watches them for a while but soon gets bored. We acclimatized him as a puppy, so he's not bothered by fireworks, guns, cannon or any other sudden loud noises - which is important for a reenactment dog. So are you saying that if a dog’s scared of fireworks then it’s the owners fault for not getting them used to loud noises when they were a puppy? Are you accusing all the people who’s dogs are barking of being bad dog owners and not training them properly? That’s not what I think by the way, I’m just checking that’s what Pud and/or Bryan meant...." Not accusing anyone, after all, many people get dogs from rescue centres, not as puppies and therefore don't have the opportunity. Best bet then is probably to not react, but try & down the noise out to help the dog relax. | |||
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"Kind of comes with the Territory, surely before getting your dog you knew things, like it’s going to piss and shit in the house until trained, it’s going to chew as a puppy, it’s going to be scared of fireworks. Fireworks happen, puppies are born they coexist nothing you can do will change it your just stressing yourself out for reason. " That’s BS, dogs (or any other animal) are not born with a fear of fireworks, that’s a learned behaviour. Clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about. Yes you can desensitise a dog to fireworks, with a cd of the things, and start off on the quietest setting, but what happens if that doesn’t work? You still have a dog with a fear of fireworks and possibly a hole in your bank balance for the vets for medication to drug the dog for it to get through the night of fireworks, but the problem is, that because neds are buying more fireworks than is needed they are being set off at any given time and that’s not enough time to give the dogs the meds and time for the meds to work! | |||
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"They used dogs in both world wars. Did they ever complain? No. Some even won medals. One even became a spy…" OK, so let's have a war to prove how well dogs can cope. Those noises outside have a real calming effect. Dogs have also been put down after use in wars. | |||
"They used dogs in both world wars. Did they ever complain? No. Some even won medals. One even became a spy… OK, so let's have a war to prove how well dogs can cope. Those noises outside have a real calming effect. Dogs have also been put down after use in wars." I’m sure you’d cry if you knew over 400 000 dogs and cats were killed after declaration of war against Hitler. As people exited the cities they didn’t take Fido or Tiddles. Kid yourself it’s your best friend. Humans have a transient sense of friendship with pets. | |||
"One way if looking at it is that you are selling explosives to people untrained in how to safely handle them. Im in favour of organised licensed displays taking place on a couple of significant occasions in the year. Not joe public setting them off in the garden or anywhere else for weeks before and after. Im a dog owner and this is her first bonfire night. Luckily she doesn’t seem that bothered but i don’t live in the town where they’re going off feet away from the house. One more point is the availability of stupidly powerful fireworks where the bang can shake windows - are we really happy that terry & gary are setting them off after 10 cans of Stella?? " Exactly, this stuff contains gunpowder, an explosive substance. Seems crazy you can walk into a shop and buy the live ammunition all in the name of 'fun' | |||
"Kind of comes with the Territory, surely before getting your dog you knew things, like it’s going to piss and shit in the house until trained, it’s going to chew as a puppy, it’s going to be scared of fireworks. Fireworks happen, puppies are born they coexist nothing you can do will change it your just stressing yourself out for reason. That’s BS, dogs (or any other animal) are not born with a fear of fireworks, that’s a learned behaviour. Clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about. Yes you can desensitise a dog to fireworks, with a cd of the things, and start off on the quietest setting, but what happens if that doesn’t work? You still have a dog with a fear of fireworks and possibly a hole in your bank balance for the vets for medication to drug the dog for it to get through the night of fireworks, but the problem is, that because neds are buying more fireworks than is needed they are being set off at any given time and that’s not enough time to give the dogs the meds and time for the meds to work! " If they’re not born with a fear of fireworks what makes them scared of them? If they’ve learned to be scared of them then something bad would have had to happen to them at the same time fireworks were going off, so that they associate the sound of fireworks with that bad thing. I reckon a puppy that’s never heard fireworks would be scared of them because they’re born with a fear of loud noises as part of their natural survival instincts. Loud noises tend to come from something hazardous happening so animals have evolved to naturally be wary of them and run away from them rather than towards them. | |||
"People enjoy fireworks like you enjoy dogs, it's called personal choice." Not much choice for the poor animals is it?? | |||
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"its not just dogs its all animals domestic or wild ... i think the time has come for private sales to be stopped and organized event monitered and license that way those that like them can go and see them whiles cutting down on the nusiance side of them ....." Exactly! Wild animals horses my friend has 5 horses she is down there with them this eve trying to calm them as she did last week and will b tomorrow eve! They were so stressed crashing into the fences poor things we humans are so so selfish! X | |||
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"They used dogs in both world wars. Did they ever complain? No. Some even won medals. One even became a spy… OK, so let's have a war to prove how well dogs can cope. Those noises outside have a real calming effect. Dogs have also been put down after use in wars. I’m sure you’d cry if you knew over 400 000 dogs and cats were killed after declaration of war against Hitler. As people exited the cities they didn’t take Fido or Tiddles. Kid yourself it’s your best friend. Humans have a transient sense of friendship with pets." I wasn't there and my dogs would have gone with me OR I would have stayed with them. | |||
"its not just dogs its all animals domestic or wild ... i think the time has come for private sales to be stopped and organized event monitered and license that way those that like them can go and see them whiles cutting down on the nusiance side of them ....." During the lockdowns I used to go out for late night walks around the village I live in and I saw loads of badgers running around, I saw one pretty much every night. I’d only ever seen 2 or 3 badgers in my life before the lockdown. That tells me that badgers are scared of cars and people so they normally hide away but because there were so few cars on the road and a lot less people walking around they felt safe to come out of hiding. If we’re going to ban fireworks because they scare animals we should also ban cars and people walking around. It made me really sad knowing that those badgers have had to live hidden away but are now experiencing the enjoyment of being able to run around freely and feel safe but it will only be short lived and I knew that when things got back to normal they will have to hide away again. This time it will be worse for them as they’ve tasted freedom and had it taken away where as before they didn’t know what they were missing. | |||
"Ok had a dog he did not like fireworks have kids, love fireworks dogs quickly got over it so chill it's like 1 week a year." How do you know your dog 'got over it?' I have seen dogs shut down in response to traumatic events and situations, looks like they are being passive. But they aren't. They are traumatised and shutting down is a reaction to that. Of course I am not saying that's happened with yours but it does happen | |||
"Kind of comes with the Territory, surely before getting your dog you knew things, like it’s going to piss and shit in the house until trained, it’s going to chew as a puppy, it’s going to be scared of fireworks. Fireworks happen, puppies are born they coexist nothing you can do will change it your just stressing yourself out for reason. That’s BS, dogs (or any other animal) are not born with a fear of fireworks, that’s a learned behaviour. Clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about. Yes you can desensitise a dog to fireworks, with a cd of the things, and start off on the quietest setting, but what happens if that doesn’t work? You still have a dog with a fear of fireworks and possibly a hole in your bank balance for the vets for medication to drug the dog for it to get through the night of fireworks, but the problem is, that because neds are buying more fireworks than is needed they are being set off at any given time and that’s not enough time to give the dogs the meds and time for the meds to work! If they’re not born with a fear of fireworks what makes them scared of them? If they’ve learned to be scared of them then something bad would have had to happen to them at the same time fireworks were going off, so that they associate the sound of fireworks with that bad thing. I reckon a puppy that’s never heard fireworks would be scared of them because they’re born with a fear of loud noises as part of their natural survival instincts. Loud noises tend to come from something hazardous happening so animals have evolved to naturally be wary of them and run away from them rather than towards them. " Hahahahahahahahahahaha never heard such tosh! Dogs, cats, or whatever animal it is are not born with a fear of loud noises. Even dogs that are bred to be gun dogs can be frightened of gunshot (this is called a failed gun dog and will be rehomed into a private home and not as a working dog) Gun dogs still have to go through training and trained to accept the noise of a gun. It doesn’t always come naturally. If you want to know more, research it on Google, there are plenty sites that can explain it a lot better than I can, but don’t ever come out with rubbish that dogs are born with a fear. A lot of it does depend on the dogs nature, like people some are confident, some are not, some are nervous, some are well behaved and get on with their siblings and some shy away from their siblings. | |||
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"Diwali 1 day of the year…dogs barking 365….Oooo controversial "Dogs bark to communicate - then a’hole comes along and puts an anti barking device on them….. if you don’t want a dog that barks…get a cat, or better still a goldfish | |||
"Kind of comes with the Territory, surely before getting your dog you knew things, like it’s going to piss and shit in the house until trained, it’s going to chew as a puppy, it’s going to be scared of fireworks. Fireworks happen, puppies are born they coexist nothing you can do will change it your just stressing yourself out for reason. That’s BS, dogs (or any other animal) are not born with a fear of fireworks, that’s a learned behaviour. Clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about. Yes you can desensitise a dog to fireworks, with a cd of the things, and start off on the quietest setting, but what happens if that doesn’t work? You still have a dog with a fear of fireworks and possibly a hole in your bank balance for the vets for medication to drug the dog for it to get through the night of fireworks, but the problem is, that because neds are buying more fireworks than is needed they are being set off at any given time and that’s not enough time to give the dogs the meds and time for the meds to work! If they’re not born with a fear of fireworks what makes them scared of them? If they’ve learned to be scared of them then something bad would have had to happen to them at the same time fireworks were going off, so that they associate the sound of fireworks with that bad thing. I reckon a puppy that’s never heard fireworks would be scared of them because they’re born with a fear of loud noises as part of their natural survival instincts. Loud noises tend to come from something hazardous happening so animals have evolved to naturally be wary of them and run away from them rather than towards them. Hahahahahahahahahahaha never heard such tosh! Dogs, cats, or whatever animal it is are not born with a fear of loud noises. Even dogs that are bred to be gun dogs can be frightened of gunshot (this is called a failed gun dog and will be rehomed into a private home and not as a working dog) Gun dogs still have to go through training and trained to accept the noise of a gun. It doesn’t always come naturally. If you want to know more, research it on Google, there are plenty sites that can explain it a lot better than I can, but don’t ever come out with rubbish that dogs are born with a fear. A lot of it does depend on the dogs nature, like people some are confident, some are not, some are nervous, some are well behaved and get on with their siblings and some shy away from their siblings. " If they have to be trained to accept the noise of a gun then that would mean they’re naturally afraid of loud noises, you’ve completely contradicted yourself there. Do you honest think that if you shot a gun next to a one week old puppy it wouldn’t flinch and be afraid of it? Aren’t babies scared of loud noises? They haven’t learned to be scared of them in the short time they’ve been alive, they’re born with the instinct to be scared of them as a form of survival that’s evolved over thousands of years. Look up Darwin’s Theory of Evolution on Google and you’ll understand what I mean, I don’t need to look anything up on Google because I know I’m right. | |||
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"Diwali 1 day of the year…dogs barking 365….Oooo controversial
Dogs bark to communicate - then a’hole comes along and puts an anti barking device on them….. if you don’t want a dog that barks…get a cat, or better still a goldfish"Cats don’t like fireworks | |||
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"Top tip. Play firework noises every day of the year. Then they won't notice on that one or two days of the year where people are letting off fireworks. Such a third world problem. Elsewhere people sifting through rubbish for pennies. Ladies and kids getting trafficked. People being blown up and persecuted. Cartels forcing people to work for them. And we're moaning about some fireworks. " well it is a post about fireworks perhaps as you feel so strongly about the problems you mentioned above maybe start a thread about them | |||
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I think as it’s something we’ve done since he was a puppy he has no fear.He enjoys having his hotdogs and burgers and watching the fireworks. | |||
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"A local dog bothers us every night all frickin year. Tonight’s our night. No apologies." So because one dog annoys you, it's okay that multitudes of animals (not just dogs) are frightened? Sounds logical. | |||
 my two boy cats (Dave and Steve) don't give a flying fuck.
It's really shitty for animals
however......
We all love fireworks | |||
"A local dog bothers us every night all frickin year. Tonight’s our night. No apologies. So because one dog annoys you, it's okay that multitudes of animals (not just dogs) are frightened? Sounds logical. " Yup. We’re talking mutts. Or rather dopey humans that keep them in servitude. | |||
"When our dog was a puppy he would sit in the garden watching the fireworks with my husband he has done it ever year and he loves it . He’s 6 now and he has just came in after sitting in the garden watching the fireworks he probably would have stayed out longer but me and my husband are freezing .
I think as it’s something we’ve done since he was a puppy he has no fear.He enjoys having his hotdogs and burgers and watching the fireworks." That's nice. | |||
"A local dog bothers us every night all frickin year. Tonight’s our night. No apologies. So because one dog annoys you, it's okay that multitudes of animals (not just dogs) are frightened? Sounds logical. Yup. We’re talking mutts. Or rather dopey humans that keep them in servitude." But it's not just dogs that are affected. Lots of animals, wild and domesticated, are. | |||
"A local dog bothers us every night all frickin year. Tonight’s our night. No apologies." | |||
"Top tip. Play firework noises every day of the year. Then they won't notice on that one or two days of the year where people are letting off fireworks. Such a third world problem. Elsewhere people sifting through rubbish for pennies. Ladies and kids getting trafficked. People being blown up and persecuted. Cartels forcing people to work for them. And we're moaning about some fireworks. " | |||
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"Tonight, where I live in Northern Ireland, and most probably throughout the entire Republic of Ireland it is perfectly quiet and serene. Here we do not celebrate or commemorate Guy Fawkes night on 5th November; all of the fireworks were used up on Halloween night, 31 October. I think I have got the date correct! In a few isolated areas of N.I., there will be some fireworks being set off by those who have an affinity with GB, NI being part of the UK. "I don’t know for sure but I’d guess that the loyalists are setting off fireworks and the republicans aren’t. If it’s quiet where you live then it must be a mainly republican area? | |||
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"Tonight, where I live in Northern Ireland, and most probably throughout the entire Republic of Ireland it is perfectly quiet and serene. Here we do not celebrate or commemorate Guy Fawkes night on 5th November; all of the fireworks were used up on Halloween night, 31 October. I think I have got the date correct! In a few isolated areas of N.I., there will be some fireworks being set off by those who have an affinity with GB, NI being part of the UK. "Good for them. | |||
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"Ok had a dog he did not like fireworks have kids, love fireworks dogs quickly got over it so chill it's like 1 week a year. How do you know your dog 'got over it?' I have seen dogs shut down in response to traumatic events and situations, looks like they are being passive. But they aren't. They are traumatised and shutting down is a reaction to that. Of course I am not saying that's happened with yours but it does happen " Them dogs need to man up and stop be fun sponges.. | |||
"Kind of comes with the Territory, surely before getting your dog you knew things, like it’s going to piss and shit in the house until trained, it’s going to chew as a puppy, it’s going to be scared of fireworks. Fireworks happen, puppies are born they coexist nothing you can do will change it your just stressing yourself out for reason. That’s BS, dogs (or any other animal) are not born with a fear of fireworks, that’s a learned behaviour. Clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about. Yes you can desensitise a dog to fireworks, with a cd of the things, and start off on the quietest setting, but what happens if that doesn’t work? You still have a dog with a fear of fireworks and possibly a hole in your bank balance for the vets for medication to drug the dog for it to get through the night of fireworks, but the problem is, that because neds are buying more fireworks than is needed they are being set off at any given time and that’s not enough time to give the dogs the meds and time for the meds to work! If they’re not born with a fear of fireworks what makes them scared of them? If they’ve learned to be scared of them then something bad would have had to happen to them at the same time fireworks were going off, so that they associate the sound of fireworks with that bad thing. I reckon a puppy that’s never heard fireworks would be scared of them because they’re born with a fear of loud noises as part of their natural survival instincts. Loud noises tend to come from something hazardous happening so animals have evolved to naturally be wary of them and run away from them rather than towards them. Hahahahahahahahahahaha never heard such tosh! Dogs, cats, or whatever animal it is are not born with a fear of loud noises. Even dogs that are bred to be gun dogs can be frightened of gunshot (this is called a failed gun dog and will be rehomed into a private home and not as a working dog) Gun dogs still have to go through training and trained to accept the noise of a gun. It doesn’t always come naturally. If you want to know more, research it on Google, there are plenty sites that can explain it a lot better than I can, but don’t ever come out with rubbish that dogs are born with a fear. A lot of it does depend on the dogs nature, like people some are confident, some are not, some are nervous, some are well behaved and get on with their siblings and some shy away from their siblings. If they have to be trained to accept the noise of a gun then that would mean they’re naturally afraid of loud noises, you’ve completely contradicted yourself there. Do you honest think that if you shot a gun next to a one week old puppy it wouldn’t flinch and be afraid of it? Aren’t babies scared of loud noises? They haven’t learned to be scared of them in the short time they’ve been alive, they’re born with the instinct to be scared of them as a form of survival that’s evolved over thousands of years. Look up Darwin’s Theory of Evolution on Google and you’ll understand what I mean, I don’t need to look anything up on Google because I know I’m right. " You know you’re right? Aye right then you’ll be saying that dogs evolved from wolves next | |||
"And Diwali isn't a British festival,when I was in India I had to put up with it,fair enough,but I don't live in india Many Indians live here. " My Nepalese friends are Hindu, they have amazing celebrations for Diwali  | |||
