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Modern day politicians. I’m sure there are exceptions but it boils my piss to see an 85 car cavalcade , private planes, police security that increasingly look like paramilitary guards, when the ones they send to clear the roads of dopey protesters struggle to get out of their cars. I thought they were elected to serve us?
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"Modern day politicians. I’m sure there are exceptions but it boils my piss to see an 85 car cavalcade , private planes, police security that increasingly look like paramilitary guards, when the ones they send to clear the roads of dopey protesters struggle to get out of their cars. I thought they were elected to serve us?
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Well actually given 2 of them have been stabbed to death in the last few years they need security. If we were a bit more respectful of our fellow man they may not need as much security. Calling them over entitled cunts is just another example of our overly aggressive society. |
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"Modern day politicians. I’m sure there are exceptions but it boils my piss to see an 85 car cavalcade , private planes, police security that increasingly look like paramilitary guards, when the ones they send to clear the roads of dopey protesters struggle to get out of their cars. I thought they were elected to serve us?
Well actually given 2 of them have been stabbed to death in the last few years they need security. If we were a bit more respectful of our fellow man they may not need as much security. Calling them over entitled cunts is just another example of our overly aggressive society. "
It definitely contributes to the atmosphere of aggression |
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"Maybe less aggression in the world would be a start ...
Just the sort of indifference that allowed a certain German Chancellor to rise to power! "
Absolute nonsense |
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"Maybe less aggression in the world would be a start ...
Just the sort of indifference that allowed a certain German Chancellor to rise to power! "
It's very much not indifferencea cttually the opposite. Just bored of aggressive opinions with no follow up or back up in life |
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"Maybe less aggression in the world would be a start ...
Just the sort of indifference that allowed a certain German Chancellor to rise to power!
It's very much not indifferencea cttually the opposite. Just bored of aggressive opinions with no follow up or back up in life "
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"Modern day politicians. I’m sure there are exceptions but it boils my piss to see an 85 car cavalcade , private planes, police security that increasingly look like paramilitary guards, when the ones they send to clear the roads of dopey protesters struggle to get out of their cars. I thought they were elected to serve us?
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How and what would pacify you? |
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"Modern day politicians. I’m sure there are exceptions but it boils my piss to see an 85 car cavalcade , private planes, police security that increasingly look like paramilitary guards, when the ones they send to clear the roads of dopey protesters struggle to get out of their cars. I thought they were elected to serve us?
How and what would pacify you?"
Good question, I’m working on it. Start my own party perhaps? |
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"Modern day politicians. I’m sure there are exceptions but it boils my piss to see an 85 car cavalcade , private planes, police security that increasingly look like paramilitary guards, when the ones they send to clear the roads of dopey protesters struggle to get out of their cars. I thought they were elected to serve us?
How and what would pacify you? Good question, I’m working on it. Start my own party perhaps? "
And you may well require your own security cavalcade if you do start your own party because someone, somewhere, will take exception to you. How would you manage threats to your safety? Your family's safety or the safety of people working with/for you? |
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"To be honest when a low ranking politician is stabbed to death in a church hall whilst making himself available to his constituents then perhaps a bit of security is fair enough. "
There is nothing stopping political parties providing their MPs private security at their own expense. Only Cabinet Ministers warrant Police protection, at taxpayer's expense. |
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Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss. |
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss."
Who is it orchestrated by? |
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss.
Who is it orchestrated by? "
The higher echolons you don't see in the public eye. |
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss.
Who is it orchestrated by?
The higher echolons you don't see in the public eye."
Name a few... I'm intrigued |
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss.
Who is it orchestrated by?
The higher echolons you don't see in the public eye.
Name a few... I'm intrigued "
Start with the Rockefellers and work your way through the connections. |
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss.
Who is it orchestrated by?
The higher echolons you don't see in the public eye.
Name a few... I'm intrigued
Start with the Rockefellers and work your way through the connections."
Can I call it?!
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss.
Who is it orchestrated by?
The higher echolons you don't see in the public eye.
Name a few... I'm intrigued
Start with the Rockefellers and work your way through the connections."
So rockefeller.? And no other names... Are the higher echelons who are deciding how countries are run? OK. |
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss.
Who is it orchestrated by?
The higher echolons you don't see in the public eye.
Name a few... I'm intrigued
Start with the Rockefellers and work your way through the connections.
So rockefeller.? And no other names... Are the higher echelons who are deciding how countries are run? OK. "
Rothchild
DuPont
Astor
Check those out at the same time. |
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss.
Who is it orchestrated by?
The higher echolons you don't see in the public eye.
Name a few... I'm intrigued
Start with the Rockefellers and work your way through the connections.
So rockefeller.? And no other names... Are the higher echelons who are deciding how countries are run? OK.
Rothchild
DuPont
Astor
Check those out at the same time."
Next you'll be telling us the world is flat  |
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"Modern day politicians. I’m sure there are exceptions but it boils my piss to see an 85 car cavalcade , private planes, police security that increasingly look like paramilitary guards, when the ones they send to clear the roads of dopey protesters struggle to get out of their cars. I thought they were elected to serve us?
Well actually given 2 of them have been stabbed to death in the last few years they need security. If we were a bit more respectful of our fellow man they may not need as much security. Calling them over entitled cunts is just another example of our overly aggressive society. "
Didn't the IRA blow a few of them up over the years. |
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"Politics and politicians are just there to make you feel like you have a choice.
How the countries and world are run has already been orchestrated.
How money is created and spent is in their power.
Their power is shared to the lower echelons to let them think they have power. They themselves then pass on the lower powers and so on, until it reaches the people and has been diluted a thousandfold.
The everyday people then think they have the power in their votes.
That, is the real concern and should be what boils your piss.
Who is it orchestrated by?
The higher echolons you don't see in the public eye.
Name a few... I'm intrigued
Start with the Rockefellers and work your way through the connections.
So rockefeller.? And no other names... Are the higher echelons who are deciding how countries are run? OK.
Rothchild
DuPont
Astor
Check those out at the same time.
Next you'll be telling us the world is flat "
The world is definitely round. That is why there are rainbows and not rainlines   |
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"I thought they were elected to serve us?
It's been a very long time since that was true
What's your basis for this theorem?"
Noting:
A) the quality of people that go into politics (i.e. the market value of their skills elsewhere)
B) how going into politics effects their personal wealth in office
C) The opportunities to make money after they leave office |
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"I thought they were elected to serve us?
It's been a very long time since that was true
What's your basis for this theorem?
Noting:
A) the quality of people that go into politics (i.e. the market value of their skills elsewhere)
B) how going into politics effects their personal wealth in office
C) The opportunities to make money after they leave office"
I'm struggling to see you're point here, people are motivated by things other than money |
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"I thought they were elected to serve us?
It's been a very long time since that was true
What's your basis for this theorem?
Noting:
A) the quality of people that go into politics (i.e. the market value of their skills elsewhere)
B) how going into politics effects their personal wealth in office
C) The opportunities to make money after they leave office
I'm struggling to see you're point here, people are motivated by things other than money"
Plus it would seem that private business thinks many serving and former politicians ARE worth something because they keep getting employed during or after their role as MPs. As for earnings after being an MP, I'd jolly well hope that having "MP" on my CV might open up better paid jobs to me than before I was an MP and whether we like it or not, former MPs still need to earn money. We can't expect all former MPs to sit at home contemplating the end of their career the second they step down/are voted out.
Some do become very wealthy as MPs - the MP salary does appear very generous but I doubt it's enough to just quit working the moment you stop being an MP.
We should be far hotter on dealing with MPs who take paid work that is in conflict with their role and better regulated the way lobbying can take place. It's always happened but it does seem to be getting more and more ridiculous. Bung a few quid to a serving or former MP and you too can receive lucrative contracts to supply PPE  |
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"I thought they were elected to serve us?
It's been a very long time since that was true
What's your basis for this theorem?
Noting:
A) the quality of people that go into politics (i.e. the market value of their skills elsewhere)
B) how going into politics effects their personal wealth in office
C) The opportunities to make money after they leave office
I'm struggling to see you're point here, people are motivated by things other than money
Plus it would seem that private business thinks many serving and former politicians ARE worth something because they keep getting employed during or after their role as MPs. As for earnings after being an MP, I'd jolly well hope that having "MP" on my CV might open up better paid jobs to me than before I was an MP and whether we like it or not, former MPs still need to earn money. We can't expect all former MPs to sit at home contemplating the end of their career the second they step down/are voted out.
Some do become very wealthy as MPs - the MP salary does appear very generous but I doubt it's enough to just quit working the moment you stop being an MP.
We should be far hotter on dealing with MPs who take paid work that is in conflict with their role and better regulated the way lobbying can take place. It's always happened but it does seem to be getting more and more ridiculous. Bung a few quid to a serving or former MP and you too can receive lucrative contracts to supply PPE "
I honestly don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me but you've directly or indirectly referenced the problems I'm talking about... maybe we just disagree about how many snouts are in how many troughs. Owen Patersons £100k a year side gig is the rule not the exception. |
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"I thought they were elected to serve us?
It's been a very long time since that was true
What's your basis for this theorem?
Noting:
A) the quality of people that go into politics (i.e. the market value of their skills elsewhere)
B) how going into politics effects their personal wealth in office
C) The opportunities to make money after they leave office
I'm struggling to see you're point here, people are motivated by things other than money
Plus it would seem that private business thinks many serving and former politicians ARE worth something because they keep getting employed during or after their role as MPs. As for earnings after being an MP, I'd jolly well hope that having "MP" on my CV might open up better paid jobs to me than before I was an MP and whether we like it or not, former MPs still need to earn money. We can't expect all former MPs to sit at home contemplating the end of their career the second they step down/are voted out.
Some do become very wealthy as MPs - the MP salary does appear very generous but I doubt it's enough to just quit working the moment you stop being an MP.
We should be far hotter on dealing with MPs who take paid work that is in conflict with their role and better regulated the way lobbying can take place. It's always happened but it does seem to be getting more and more ridiculous. Bung a few quid to a serving or former MP and you too can receive lucrative contracts to supply PPE
I honestly don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me but you've directly or indirectly referenced the problems I'm talking about... maybe we just disagree about how many snouts are in how many troughs. Owen Patersons £100k a year side gig is the rule not the exception. "
Probably a bit of both agree and disagree. It's nothing new (MPs earning money, lots of money) from "side hustling". It'd been a feature of the UK parliament system since it's inception, I think. For example Gladstone was initially a barrister and was receiving lots of income from sl@ve plantations at the time the UK parliament was dealing with the abolition of sl@very. Whilst an MP, Gladstone helped his father claim the absolute maximum reparations for the sl@ves he owned. That's just one example. |
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"people are motivated by things other than money
Yes but those people don't seem to become ministers "
They do. They often resign in protest at various things though. I'm thinking Clare Short and Robin Cook re: the Iraq war, for example. |
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"And yet one got stabbed to death just going about his job mere weeks ago. I agree some of it seems OTT but more of a sad sign of the world we live in "
The general public run that risk every day when they step out of their front door in some areas. |
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"I thought they were elected to serve us?
It's been a very long time since that was true
What's your basis for this theorem?
Noting:
A) the quality of people that go into politics (i.e. the market value of their skills elsewhere)
B) how going into politics effects their personal wealth in office
C) The opportunities to make money after they leave office
I'm struggling to see you're point here, people are motivated by things other than money
Plus it would seem that private business thinks many serving and former politicians ARE worth something because they keep getting employed during or after their role as MPs. As for earnings after being an MP, I'd jolly well hope that having "MP" on my CV might open up better paid jobs to me than before I was an MP and whether we like it or not, former MPs still need to earn money. We can't expect all former MPs to sit at home contemplating the end of their career the second they step down/are voted out.
Some do become very wealthy as MPs - the MP salary does appear very generous but I doubt it's enough to just quit working the moment you stop being an MP.
We should be far hotter on dealing with MPs who take paid work that is in conflict with their role and better regulated the way lobbying can take place. It's always happened but it does seem to be getting more and more ridiculous. Bung a few quid to a serving or former MP and you too can receive lucrative contracts to supply PPE
I honestly don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me but you've directly or indirectly referenced the problems I'm talking about... maybe we just disagree about how many snouts are in how many troughs. Owen Patersons £100k a year side gig is the rule not the exception.
Probably a bit of both agree and disagree. It's nothing new (MPs earning money, lots of money) from "side hustling". It'd been a feature of the UK parliament system since it's inception, I think. For example Gladstone was initially a barrister and was receiving lots of income from sl@ve plantations at the time the UK parliament was dealing with the abolition of sl@very. Whilst an MP, Gladstone helped his father claim the absolute maximum reparations for the sl@ves he owned. That's just one example. "
Indeed it's nothing new. But there was a time when politics was dominated by people already rich before they entered office. So it's plausible they were just bored enough to enter and try and do some good, make life better for the deserving poor or whatever. Although the rich ones now seem the most motivated to use office to make even more money so I think I just contradicted myself. |
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"I thought they were elected to serve us?
It's been a very long time since that was true
What's your basis for this theorem?
Noting:
A) the quality of people that go into politics (i.e. the market value of their skills elsewhere)
B) how going into politics effects their personal wealth in office
C) The opportunities to make money after they leave office
I'm struggling to see you're point here, people are motivated by things other than money
Plus it would seem that private business thinks many serving and former politicians ARE worth something because they keep getting employed during or after their role as MPs. As for earnings after being an MP, I'd jolly well hope that having "MP" on my CV might open up better paid jobs to me than before I was an MP and whether we like it or not, former MPs still need to earn money. We can't expect all former MPs to sit at home contemplating the end of their career the second they step down/are voted out.
Some do become very wealthy as MPs - the MP salary does appear very generous but I doubt it's enough to just quit working the moment you stop being an MP.
We should be far hotter on dealing with MPs who take paid work that is in conflict with their role and better regulated the way lobbying can take place. It's always happened but it does seem to be getting more and more ridiculous. Bung a few quid to a serving or former MP and you too can receive lucrative contracts to supply PPE
I honestly don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me but you've directly or indirectly referenced the problems I'm talking about... maybe we just disagree about how many snouts are in how many troughs. Owen Patersons £100k a year side gig is the rule not the exception.
Probably a bit of both agree and disagree. It's nothing new (MPs earning money, lots of money) from "side hustling". It'd been a feature of the UK parliament system since it's inception, I think. For example Gladstone was initially a barrister and was receiving lots of income from sl@ve plantations at the time the UK parliament was dealing with the abolition of sl@very. Whilst an MP, Gladstone helped his father claim the absolute maximum reparations for the sl@ves he owned. That's just one example.
Indeed it's nothing new. But there was a time when politics was dominated by people already rich before they entered office. So it's plausible they were just bored enough to enter and try and do some good, make life better for the deserving poor or whatever. Although the rich ones now seem the most motivated to use office to make even more money so I think I just contradicted myself. "
I think a good number of people come into politics for the right reasons but find it's pretty hard to achieve what you want to achieve. Our friend Gladstone, involved in sl@very etc and from a well to do family but also instigated many reforms that tried to assist the poor in Victorian society. He banned the purchasing of commissions in the Army and passed the Trade Unions Act. Most politicians seem to be like this - both positive and negative aspects to them, much like any other human being. |
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I think a good number of people come into politics for the right reasons but find it's pretty hard to achieve what you want to achieve. Our friend Gladstone, involved in sl@very etc and from a well to do family but also instigated many reforms that tried to assist the poor in Victorian society. He banned the purchasing of commissions in the Army and passed the Trade Unions Act. Most politicians seem to be like this - both positive and negative aspects to them, much like any other human being. "
I know more about the politicians in my lifetime, I wouldn't confuse our interests occasionally aligning, with them having a positive impact. There are 9 current ministers that if I'd done what they'd done; I'd be too ashamed to show my face in public. If i were them, i would go live in some temple in butt-fuck-nowhere, cutting the grass with scissors to try and redeem myself spiritually. |
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I think a good number of people come into politics for the right reasons but find it's pretty hard to achieve what you want to achieve. Our friend Gladstone, involved in sl@very etc and from a well to do family but also instigated many reforms that tried to assist the poor in Victorian society. He banned the purchasing of commissions in the Army and passed the Trade Unions Act. Most politicians seem to be like this - both positive and negative aspects to them, much like any other human being.
I know more about the politicians in my lifetime, I wouldn't confuse our interests occasionally aligning, with them having a positive impact. There are 9 current ministers that if I'd done what they'd done; I'd be too ashamed to show my face in public. If i were them, i would go live in some temple in butt-fuck-nowhere, cutting the grass with scissors to try and redeem myself spiritually. "
On that, I would not disagree. |
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I think a good number of people come into politics for the right reasons but find it's pretty hard to achieve what you want to achieve. Our friend Gladstone, involved in sl@very etc and from a well to do family but also instigated many reforms that tried to assist the poor in Victorian society. He banned the purchasing of commissions in the Army and passed the Trade Unions Act. Most politicians seem to be like this - both positive and negative aspects to them, much like any other human being.
I know more about the politicians in my lifetime, I wouldn't confuse our interests occasionally aligning, with them having a positive impact. There are 9 current ministers that if I'd done what they'd done; I'd be too ashamed to show my face in public. If i were them, i would go live in some temple in butt-fuck-nowhere, cutting the grass with scissors to try and redeem myself spiritually.
On that, I would not disagree. "
No I totally agree 100% not sure what that couple do be on about !!!!
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