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over a year ago
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"The lights are going to go out  Brian Cox does an interesting but mournful programme. Our earth, crafted as one expression of nature. The age of darkness beckons (in a few trillion years or so) No more suns 
I do love a space programme.  "
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"There's something oddly romantic about the heat death theory for me. No idea why...
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Soooo hypothetically if I was to set us both on fire, I could get lucky? "
Sticking us both in a freezer would be closer to the science but I like the enthusiasm 
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"There's something oddly romantic about the heat death theory for me. No idea why...
LvM"
For me it gives the lie to ideas like purpose and free will. If we realised these are emergent phenomenon, not a part of a universe that just doesn't care we may be kinder to each other and less dogmatic about our own realities.
Op, deffo gonna look out for this. Thank you.
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"There's something oddly romantic about the heat death theory for me. No idea why...
LvM
Soooo hypothetically if I was to set us both on fire, I could get lucky?
Sticking us both in a freezer would be closer to the science but I like the enthusiasm
LvM"
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By *aiseiMan
over a year ago
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"I doubt very much planet earth will be here in 10 trillion years."
Correct, it won’t. There’s about 5 billion years or so before the Sun’s hydrogen begins to run out and it expands into a red giant. It’s estimated Earth gets swallowed up in that and even if it didn’t, it’d be burnt and irradiated to a crisp given its new proximity to the Sun.
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"I doubt very much planet earth will be here in 10 trillion years.
Correct, it won’t. There’s about 5 billion years or so before the Sun’s hydrogen begins to run out and it expands into a red giant. It’s estimated Earth gets swallowed up in that and even if it didn’t, it’d be burnt and irradiated to a crisp given its new proximity to the Sun."
In your face Cox. |
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By *aiseiMan
over a year ago
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"I doubt very much planet earth will be here in 10 trillion years.
Correct, it won’t. There’s about 5 billion years or so before the Sun’s hydrogen begins to run out and it expands into a red giant. It’s estimated Earth gets swallowed up in that and even if it didn’t, it’d be burnt and irradiated to a crisp given its new proximity to the Sun.
In your face Cox. "
Hahaha! Coxy is still correct, but he’s on about something else based on OP’s description ….possibly maximum entropy or heat death. |
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By *aiseiMan
over a year ago
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"I've not seen the program but 10 trillion years sounds like the heat death of the universe not the death of planet earth.
Mr"
Not seen it either but yep, that’s more like it for that time period  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely. |
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"So climate isn't really in our control then? I've already put my fingers in my ears "
Well, it is something we can influence in the short term (and by short term I'm taking longer than humans have existed). In the long term there's not a lot we can do to stop the sun fissioning all its hydrogen into helium.
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely. "
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr"
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head. |
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head. "
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head.
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
LvM"
I hope so. I will have to read up on this it is endlessly fascinating. |
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head.
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
LvM"
Now that's interesting. So it's possible that we are part of a 2nd or 3rd big bang |
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By *aiseiMan
over a year ago
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head.
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
LvM
Now that's interesting. So it's possible that we are part of a 2nd or 3rd big bang "
It could potentially be any number if the cycle is truly repetitive. |
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head.
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
LvM
Now that's interesting. So it's possible that we are part of a 2nd or 3rd big bang "
In theory.. or the three million, two hundred and eighty thousandth
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head.
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
LvM
Now that's interesting. So it's possible that we are part of a 2nd or 3rd big bang
In theory.. or the three million, two hundred and eighty thousandth
LvM"
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This is the kind if chit chat I have *at* her ladyship. She shakes her head at me and calls me a geek (in a loving way)
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head.
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
LvM
Now that's interesting. So it's possible that we are part of a 2nd or 3rd big bang
In theory.. or the three million, two hundred and eighty thousandth
LvM
Like a phoenix rising from the ashes "
Will we have to start from scratch or will we already have i-pads  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head.
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
LvM
Now that's interesting. So it's possible that we are part of a 2nd or 3rd big bang
In theory.. or the three million, two hundred and eighty thousandth
LvM
Like a phoenix rising from the ashes
Will we have to start from scratch or will we already have i-pads "
We will have to be bog slime all over again |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Yes the death of all the suns that ever were or ever will be. Its goung to be a slow burning red one as the last ever. Scientific names already allude me, the programme finished about 30 mins ago and it is a saturday, my braun cells are fading faster than the light. So it will be a romantic pinkish glow to see the lights out. Just imagine though. Utter darkness for the rest of forever? Something else must be due to come along surely.
When maximum entropy is reached there is no time. Time only exists for us as a measure of change of entropy. Trying to imagine a forever that has no time is like trying to imagine the expansion of the universe actually creating space, that there is no empty space for it to expand into. Just as there was no time before it started and after it ends.
Makes my head hurt.
Mr
It needs something to come along and squeeze it all back in together, stop it expanding and heat it all back up again. I wont accept the forever! The universe not your head.
Well that is one of the other theories: a Big Crush. Where everything collapses back in again, possibly creating another Big Bang etc etc
LvM
Now that's interesting. So it's possible that we are part of a 2nd or 3rd big bang
In theory.. or the three million, two hundred and eighty thousandth
LvM"
This has made me infinitely more cheerful. Wonder what is at the 'edge' then that causes the push back to the big crush.  |
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"So climate isn't really in our control then? I've already put my fingers in my ears "
Nope, never was, never will be. The effect that man has on climate change, in cosmic terms, is fuck all. |
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"This is the kind of chit-chat Mr KC and I have whilst sitting on the sofa
This is the kind if chit chat I have *at* her ladyship. She shakes her head at me and calls me a geek (in a loving way)
Mr"
I'll be honest, we talk about weird shit here |
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