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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Concerned eco warriors or just really annoying twats

Opinions please

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If they were concerned about the planet and peoples welfare, they wouldn't be blocking roads and causing congestion and holding up medical staff, the emergency services, the people who have work to do and waste the time of police officers who could be out there helping with more serious crimes.

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

Message is a good one, but seems to be run by idiotic publicity hungry fools who's tactics are actually turning a lot of people against them instead of supporting them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Twats

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

Both. It really is both.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

If they were genuinely interested in insulation they would have their own houses insulated. They don't

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By *drian HardthrobMan over a year ago

Worcester

Definitely twats

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By *yron69Man over a year ago

Fareham

Wasters who have finally found a message .

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By *mateur100Man over a year ago

nr faversham

"Both. It really is both. "

Appreciate the sentiment but the wrong way to go about it. Personally, I'd drive over them if they were glued to the road in front of me

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

They're achieving the opposite of what they intend by alienating the ordinary person on the street.

I loved that man playing bagpipes in their face

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Absolute irritants Who have a good message just a rubbish way of getting that message across.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They're achieving the opposite of what they intend by alienating the ordinary person on the street.

I loved that man playing bagpipes in their face

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That made me giggle too.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Who is funding them?

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By *utchyjackMan over a year ago

Newquay

Should leave them glued to the road and direct the trafic around them, take their details and if they ever need any of the emergency services inform them that the road is blocked by some idiots and they will have to manage as best they can.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"They're achieving the opposite of what they intend by alienating the ordinary person on the street.

I loved that man playing bagpipes in their face

That made me giggle too.

I don't think the police should have moved him away. He was staging a peaceful protest.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They're achieving the opposite of what they intend by alienating the ordinary person on the street.

I loved that man playing bagpipes in their face

That made me giggle too.

I don't think the police should have moved him away. He was staging a peaceful protest."

Yes I thought that too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Agree with majority TWATS who have nothing better to do and are generally losing any support they would if had. How long before one of them gets seriously hurt by a car or really angry driver

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If they left the ones glued to the road alone, I think they'd soon be wanting to be unglued after a weeks worth of poo and pee has built up in their pants.

At least they be organically insulated

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"If they left the ones glued to the road alone, I think they'd soon be wanting to be unglued after a weeks worth of poo and pee has built up in their pants.

At least they be organically insulated

Could use them as speed humps lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I genuinely don't get it.

Most houses are already insulated. Any that are not the owners/ occupiers can buy and fit it as its pretty cheap to buy and easy to fit.

So what's the protest? I may be alone on this, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

So to my mind they risk their lives, the lives of their colleagues and the lives of road users. To spread a message that to my mind lacks any clarity.

When one of them had the opportunity to explain it. He walked off in a tantrum.

What I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong.) They want the government to pay for insulation so every home has insulation. That way we don't use so much fuel to heat our homes. Thus saving the environment.

Well wouldn't it be better to campaign for each house to have solar panels to provide power for heating rather than insulation?

Or am I missing the point?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I genuinely don't get it.

Most houses are already insulated. Any that are not the owners/ occupiers can buy and fit it as its pretty cheap to buy and easy to fit.

So what's the protest? I may be alone on this, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

So to my mind they risk their lives, the lives of their colleagues and the lives of road users. To spread a message that to my mind lacks any clarity.

When one of them had the opportunity to explain it. He walked off in a tantrum.

Well wouldn't it be better to campaign for each house to have solar panels to provide power for heating rather than insulation?

Or am I missing the point?

Most of the people involved would choose anything to rebel against a government, no matter who was or is running the country, there will always be a group of people rebelling against the establishment whatever their cause.

Its a shame they aren't protesting about the sl@ve labour that it takes to cover their body in sweatshop clothes, trainers and the fact the mobile phones, electric cars and laptops they use all use cobalt which is strip mined from the Earth.

The other ironies are the chemicals used to make the glue that sticks them to the roads. What an advert for the big companies that are polluting with the manifacture of the sticky stuff

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

Misguided, arrogant, selfish, virtue signalling.

They may have a point but they go about it in such a poor way that it alienated their entire audience.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

The pathetic irony is that these are the sort of people who clap for carers, demand the govt increase nurses wages and rail against the injustices of zero hour contracts whilst simultaneously preventing doctors and nurses from getting to and from the hospitals and preventing sub contract from clocking on on time for their shifts therefore directly taking money from their pockets.

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By *itzi999Woman over a year ago

Slough

"Both. It really is both.

Appreciate the sentiment but the wrong way to go about it. Personally, I'd drive over them if they were glued to the road in front of me"

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

10 out of 10 on the bellend scale.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Misguided, arrogant, selfish, virtue signalling.

They may have a point but they go about it in such a poor way that it alienated their entire audience."

That. A reasonable message with probably the worst execution they could have realistically mustered.

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

Aren’t they today’s equivalent of the Suffragettes?

The establishment wasn’t listening to them so they took disruptive action, some died for the cause. The majority of the public were disgusted by their behaviour but it helped get women the vote.

If you believe that climate change is real then it’s important that governments implement radical changes that might not be to everyone’s liking. Governments rarely make or take unpopular decisions unless forced to by the public.

Recycling our yoghurt pots, Prosecco bottles and toilet roll tubes isn’t going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Aren’t they today’s equivalent of the Suffragettes?

The establishment wasn’t listening to them so they took disruptive action, some died for the cause. The majority of the public were disgusted by their behaviour but it helped get women the vote.

Recycling our yoghurt pots, Prosecco bottles and toilet roll tubes isn’t going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things."

It's not real

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"Aren’t they today’s equivalent of the Suffragettes?

The establishment wasn’t listening to them so they took disruptive action, some died for the cause. The majority of the public were disgusted by their behaviour but it helped get women the vote.

Recycling our yoghurt pots, Prosecco bottles and toilet roll tubes isn’t going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things.

It's not real"

Let’s hope you’re right. Especially if you have kids, grandkids, nieces, nephews, etc.

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

I think someone should invent some tiny little mobile bridges.

When they glue themselves to the road. The police throw one of these bridges over the top of them, and the cars drive over them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Aren’t they today’s equivalent of the Suffragettes?

The establishment wasn’t listening to them so they took disruptive action, some died for the cause. The majority of the public were disgusted by their behaviour but it helped get women the vote.

Recycling our yoghurt pots, Prosecco bottles and toilet roll tubes isn’t going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things."

I really can't agree with that. The suffragettes fought for the right to vote. Which ironically includes the right to protest.

I genuinely don't understand what they are protesting about. Insulation?

They are risking death to protest about insulation?

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By *ob08Man over a year ago

Macclesfield

Twats/road kill.

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By *nabelle21Woman over a year ago

B38

"Both. It really is both. "

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By *nabelle21Woman over a year ago

B38

They do have a point! Which seems to have been missed completely by the way they have gone about raising awareness.

But still it is a valid point.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Tricky one. Their message is important, but they're pissing people off. They need to figure out a way to get their message out without annoying the general public.

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By *ldbutrandyMan over a year ago

West Midlands

"Who is funding them?"

I think its an insulation company .either that or gorilla glue.

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By *ussexualMan over a year ago

Brighton

I actually agree with the message, but they are just alienating the general public and giving the government excuses to introduce more draconian rules to restrict our rights.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously.

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By *ldbutrandyMan over a year ago

West Midlands

"I think someone should invent some tiny little mobile bridges.

When they glue themselves to the road. The police throw one of these bridges over the top of them, and the cars drive over them. "

Can we make these bridges out of polystyrene please , recycled of course.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

They don't agree with the 'message' themselves though, do they? Their leader hasn't even insulated his own home.

So what's it all about?

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By *ob08Man over a year ago

Macclesfield

They're mainly old people, presumably those on a list for a nursing home.

"No Margaret don't superglue your head to the floor, remember we agreed last time that was a bad idea"

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By *inkyfun2013Couple over a year ago

lewisham

If one of them glues themselves to the road in front of me we are going to find out whether they like water sports. By a practical test.

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By *arl17Man over a year ago

Central Portugal

Idiotic pensioners with a tube of glue... Twats one and all imho x

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"Aren’t they today’s equivalent of the Suffragettes?

The establishment wasn’t listening to them so they took disruptive action, some died for the cause. The majority of the public were disgusted by their behaviour but it helped get women the vote.

Recycling our yoghurt pots, Prosecco bottles and toilet roll tubes isn’t going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things.

I really can't agree with that. The suffragettes fought for the right to vote. Which ironically includes the right to protest.

I genuinely don't understand what they are protesting about. Insulation?

They are risking death to protest about insulation? "

Bigger picture - the environment. You might not agree with it but their fight is about saving the planet for future generations.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only established in August yet have got the most media attention on any protests this year, make of that what you will

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"They don't agree with the 'message' themselves though, do they? Their leader hasn't even insulated his own home.

So what's it all about?"

Maybe “their leader” can’t afford to insulate their own home. They’re wanting the government to assist lower income households to do it and in doing so cut carbon emissions and help stop global warming. That’s the crux of their argument I’d say.

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"Only established in August yet have got the most media attention on any protests this year, make of that what you will

What do you make of it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Better idea than eco terrorism and nonsense? Advocate for REAL climate measures. People don’t believe in global warming because they can’t see it, but pollution is a real thing we can fix and by extension ease global warming.

Know those nice cheap things from China you like? Stop buying them. China and India pollute far more than any other nation but we turn a blind eye out of convenience.

Know that nice electric car you’ve got? Despite the advertisements, it’s almost as bad for the environment as a normal car, after manufacturing and charging energy consumption. If you can, walk or take public transit.

Climate agendas based on conversations like the above will gain better results, and are actually practical.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously. "

My thoughts exactly, people have to look deeper!

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"They're mainly old people, presumably those on a list for a nursing home.

"No Margaret don't superglue your head to the floor, remember we agreed last time that was a bad idea""

Cheap gag.

Your profile says you’re a “nice guy”....that’s not a nice comment. You’ll be old one day, possibly on a list for a nursing home and possibly suffering from dementia, not that these people are demented.

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously.

My thoughts exactly, people have to look deeper! "

So where do we look for “deeper” - please don’t say “Google it”

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By *alcon43Woman over a year ago

Paisley

Can’t wait until they come to Glasgow! Our roads are already closed for COP26 so they won’t make much impact here!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously.

My thoughts exactly, people have to look deeper!

So where do we look for “deeper” - please don’t say “Google it”"

If you don't see by now, then you never will, no amount of me facilitating your research will help.

Keep watching the news though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously.

My thoughts exactly, people have to look deeper!

So where do we look for “deeper” - please don’t say “Google it”"

Large corporations have a vested interest in groups like this existing, since it convinced the average person that climate change and pollution are their fault… meanwhile, the corporations get to keep production and waste costs low by damaging the environment.

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

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"Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously.

My thoughts exactly, people have to look deeper!

So where do we look for “deeper” - please don’t say “Google it”

If you don't see by now, then you never will, no amount of me facilitating your research will help.

Keep watching the news though

An expected and lazy response.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously.

My thoughts exactly, people have to look deeper!

So where do we look for “deeper” - please don’t say “Google it”

If you don't see by now, then you never will, no amount of me facilitating your research will help.

Keep watching the news though

An expected and lazy response. "

Not lazy, I just don't see it as worth my time to research for you when I can tell where you get most of your facts from already

No offence obviously

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

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"Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously.

My thoughts exactly, people have to look deeper!

So where do we look for “deeper” - please don’t say “Google it”

So shouldn’t our governments be fighting these large corporations on behalf of the average person and making sure that suitable and effective measures are implemented to stop them damaging the environment?

I feel you’re now going to say that the government is in the pocket of said large corporations (which I would agree with) but are you saying the government and the likes of Insulate Britain are both in the pockets of large industry?

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

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"Amazing how the world's most annoying protest group sprung up right around the time the government wanted to increase police powers. Pure coincidence obviously.

My thoughts exactly, people have to look deeper!

So where do we look for “deeper” - please don’t say “Google it”

If you don't see by now, then you never will, no amount of me facilitating your research will help.

Keep watching the news though

An expected and lazy response.

Not lazy, I just don't see it as worth my time to research for you when I can tell where you get most of your facts from already

No offence obviously

No offence taken but it’s still a lazy response - no offence intended. Where do you think I get my facts from? Are you going to be lazy and say “MSM” - once again no offence intended.

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By *ameshull86Man over a year ago

dublin

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Great respect to them it’s good cause but wrong way to do it

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By *ameshull86Man over a year ago

dublin

"They don't agree with the 'message' themselves though, do they? Their leader hasn't even insulated his own home.

So what's it all about?

IF their leader can't afford to insulate his own house then I have an idea for him and I know that this will sound crazy but maybe just maybe he should get a job instead of spending what money he does have on travelling to protests and gluing his body parts to a road!

Also when you say they/you because you seem to be in agreement with their ideas that the "government" should pay to insulate every house, what you are actually saying is everyone who pays tax should pay for the houses to be insulated... Quite ironic really when the people that they are stopping from getting to work are actually the same people that they want to pay for THEIR houses to be insulated!

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"They don't agree with the 'message' themselves though, do they? Their leader hasn't even insulated his own home.

So what's it all about?

oster at 29/10/21 02:22:54]"

Well it’s entirely possible that they’re also stopping unemployed, benefit cheats from moving about the place too. I don’t think they discriminate against tax payers only.

Their point is and the bigger picture point is (you don’t have to agree with it) that if the world doesn’t stop warming up we’ll all suffer in a couple of decades to an extent of which we have no conception of right now. We’ll all be in dinghies looking for a safe place to call home. Ironic or not.

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By *akie32Man over a year ago

winchester

they do have a point, yes we need to cut polution, but we are one of the least poluting nations on the planet, go glue yourself to a road in china, one of the worst, see how that works out for you then.

they have no idea how many people hate them, and that ruins the point they are trying to put across, think of the polution they have caused with all the traffic jams, its like me punching you in the face in the name of stopping violance, madness, i wish the law, police and courts would do something, protesting is fine, stoping people going about thier buisiness isnt.

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

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By *akie32Man over a year ago

winchester

"They don't agree with the 'message' themselves though, do they? Their leader hasn't even insulated his own home.

So what's it all about?

oster at 29/10/21 02:22:54]"

Well it’s entirely possible that they’re also stopping unemployed, benefit cheats from moving about the place too. I don’t think they discriminate against tax payers only.

the planet has always cycled between hot and cold, way before we were here, and will way after we are gone, yes we havnt helped, but it was always going to happen, we just happen to be in one of the periods when things get hotter

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They have a point but there are loads of different causes that people are passionate about. It doesn’t mean we have to disrupt peoples life’s because of our opinions. It’s like religion it’s a personal thing, we don’t all agree.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"they do have a point, yes we need to cut polution, but we are one of the least poluting nations on the planet, go glue yourself to a road in china, one of the worst, see how that works out for you then.

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?"

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

You guys don’t know how good you’ve got it here, you have a voice with your politicians, despite what Labour wants you to believe in the moment. Like with Brexit, enough voices can accomplish anything.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants.

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By *ameshull86Man over a year ago

dublin

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If you seriously think that in a couple of decades that unless every house in the UK is insulated that we will all be in dinghies then you need to back that up with something because the sea level isn't and hasn't risen at anything close to that rate in the last 100 years never mind a couple of decades!

Have all of these protesters walked from their homes to attend? No!

Are there grants and subsidised options available for insulation? Yes!

Will these be the same people that protest because the government increase taxes on everything and anything to recover the costs? Yes!

People need to realise that the government isn't there to provide EVERYTHING free of charge the money has to come from somewhere! And them destroying the economy isn't the answer!

Serious question for you and answer it honestly with either of the 2 answers provided for the question...

What is most important to you...?

1) A pointless protest that isn't actually achieving anything but is actually removing people's ability to provide for their families by blocking roads simply to try and get every house insulated for FREE?

2) your dying loved one getting to hospital for life saving treatment instead of being stuck in gridlock?

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

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oh and how exactly is the gov going to

fund insulating every house?"

Maybe check out history - Britain pretty much started the industrial revolution and set the trend for burning fossil fuels. Sure we didn’t know about the environmental impact then but it doesn’t mean we don’t have some responsibility in finding solutions to the problem, perhaps lead by example - it’s one of the few things we could lead in right now. Developing nations only want what we have, is that wrong of them?

Also, two wrongs don’t make a right - just because China is polluting the planet so badly does that mean everyone else should? Especially if we know it’s so detrimental to the planet and for future generations? That’s right your kids, grandkids, nieces and nephews.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants. "

I’m well aware of how lucky we are to come from here. People from the USA are also lucky. It doesn’t stop us having problems. It’s just relative to us

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to

fund insulating every house?

Don’t mean to be cheeky but there is no need to go into detail about right and wrong. We can only change ourselves other people will continue to do what they think is right. That won’t change compromise is the only thing that matters

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants.

I’m well aware of how lucky we are to come from here. People from the USA are also lucky. It doesn’t stop us having problems. It’s just relative to us "

That’s true. But! You have the opportunity to fix your issues and I look forward to seeing it. We’ve got a country where “Let’s Go Brandon” can be the most played song on iTunes but our politicians act like everyone loves Biden.

Just don’t get caught up in assigning yourselves to pointless teams politically, you’ve got a great country and I’m happy to be here. Did wish y’all would allow legal gun owners more freedom with what they can own, however.

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By *akie32Man over a year ago

winchester

oh and how exactly is the gov going to

fund insulating every house?

i didnt say we shouldnt do anything, and as a nation we do , but dont see how glueing yourself to the m25 makes things better, as a world we need to focus on the nations that polute most and help if needed, that was my point, think you miss understood my point

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants.

I’m well aware of how lucky we are to come from here. People from the USA are also lucky. It doesn’t stop us having problems. It’s just relative to us

I’ve realised that politicians cannot win, so I wouldn’t do it. I’d love too but why. Very content for us to keep guns away. In my humble opinion nothing good can come with that.

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By *ameshull86Man over a year ago

dublin

oh and how exactly is the gov going to

fund insulating every house?

I'm assuming you never go on holiday, don't drive a car, don't go to the pub, only eat food that you grow organically at home and never visit a supermarket because believe it or not all of these things actually produce pollution!

I don't think anyone is against their point that as a nation more homes should be insulated but what people are against is that tax payers should pay for it! If they were sending a clear message that people who genuinely can't afford to insulate their homes should have it done for free then fair enough but if those households should also need to prove that they are not spending £100+ per month on sky TV etc!

People have got too used to everything being handed to them on a plate!

Although that being said I do agree that as a nation we could do more... As a nation! That involves everyone contributing not simply expecting a government to do it!

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By *akie32Man over a year ago

winchester

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants.

I’m well aware of how lucky we are to come from here. People from the USA are also lucky. It doesn’t stop us having problems. It’s just relative to us

having lived in various parts of the usa for around 5 years, i for one am glad for our gun laws, but thats a seperate issue, lets not forgeet the us is also one of the worst poluters in the world

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"[Removed by poster at 29/10/21 02:31:58]

Have all of these protesters walked from their homes to attend? No!

Are there grants and subsidised options available for insulation? Yes!

Will these be the same people that protest because the government increase taxes on everything and anything to recover the costs? Yes!

People need to realise that the government isn't there to provide EVERYTHING free of charge the money has to come from somewhere! And them destroying the economy isn't the answer!

Serious question for you and answer it honestly with either of the 2 answers provided for the question...

What is most important to you...?

2) your dying loved one getting to hospital for life saving treatment instead of being stuck in gridlock?

My answer to your question, which is framed and therefore not an honest question is:

I want a future for coming generations, if that means more tax, so be it. I’m likely to lose loved ones in shitty circumstances beyond my control anyway, and already have, regardless of people gluing themselves to the M25, that’s life. So I think such protests are valid and I think the outcomes they are protesting for are valid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants.

I’m well aware of how lucky we are to come from here. People from the USA are also lucky. It doesn’t stop us having problems. It’s just relative to us

having lived in various parts of the usa for around 5 years, i for one am glad for our gun laws, but thats a seperate issue, lets not forgeet the us is also one of the worst poluters in the world"

Yeah, you guys don’t have the same dangers we do here to warrant mass gun ownership. But, more sport and competitive shooting wouldn’t be bad, we use it to bring in a lot of money for charity.

Surprisingly, the vast majority of gun owners have never harmed anyone. Our homicides are committed by criminals who obtain them illegally. Not here for a gun control debate, I understand your system and why you’ve got it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 29/10/21 02:31:58]

Have all of these protesters walked from their homes to attend? No!

Are there grants and subsidised options available for insulation? Yes!

Will these be the same people that protest because the government increase taxes on everything and anything to recover the costs? Yes!

People need to realise that the government isn't there to provide EVERYTHING free of charge the money has to come from somewhere! And them destroying the economy isn't the answer!

Serious question for you and answer it honestly with either of the 2 answers provided for the question...

What is most important to you...?

2) your dying loved one getting to hospital for life saving treatment instead of being stuck in gridlock?

My answer to your question, which is framed and therefore not an honest question is:

Then go protest outside Parliament and dint disrupt peoples day to day lives who are trying to make ends meet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to

fund insulating every house?

People have got too used to everything being handed to them on a plate!

Although that being said I do agree that as a nation we could do more... As a nation! That involves everyone contributing not simply expecting a government to do it!"

I tend to differ, I’m happy to help people less fortunate than myself. Everything the government does comes from our money. I refuse to generalise people and believe by paying more tax helps people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants.

I’m well aware of how lucky we are to come from here. People from the USA are also lucky. It doesn’t stop us having problems. It’s just relative to us

having lived in various parts of the usa for around 5 years, i for one am glad for our gun laws, but thats a seperate issue, lets not forgeet the us is also one of the worst poluters in the world

Yeah, you guys don’t have the same dangers we do here to warrant mass gun ownership. But, more sport and competitive shooting wouldn’t be bad, we use it to bring in a lot of money for charity.

Of course it’s not the guns it’s the people but we don’t really get homicides because we don’t have guns.

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By *ameshull86Man over a year ago

dublin

"[Removed by poster at 29/10/21 02:31:58]

Have all of these protesters walked from their homes to attend? No!

Are there grants and subsidised options available for insulation? Yes!

Will these be the same people that protest because the government increase taxes on everything and anything to recover the costs? Yes!

People need to realise that the government isn't there to provide EVERYTHING free of charge the money has to come from somewhere! And them destroying the economy isn't the answer!

Serious question for you and answer it honestly with either of the 2 answers provided for the question...

What is most important to you...?

2) your dying loved one getting to hospital for life saving treatment instead of being stuck in gridlock?

My answer to your question, which is framed and therefore not an honest question is:

WOW you say you want a future for you family in generations to come yet you would be happy for a relative to die in the back of an ambulance just because a professional protester with nothing better to do is glued to the road in front of them!

And I am correct in assuming that you don't travel anywhere by any form of transportation except by foot or possibly bicycle because all other forms of transportation are destroying the planet you know?

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By *ameshull86Man over a year ago

dublin

"[Removed by poster at 29/10/21 02:31:58]

Have all of these protesters walked from their homes to attend? No!

Are there grants and subsidised options available for insulation? Yes!

Will these be the same people that protest because the government increase taxes on everything and anything to recover the costs? Yes!

People need to realise that the government isn't there to provide EVERYTHING free of charge the money has to come from somewhere! And them destroying the economy isn't the answer!

Serious question for you and answer it honestly with either of the 2 answers provided for the question...

What is most important to you...?

2) your dying loved one getting to hospital for life saving treatment instead of being stuck in gridlock?

My answer to your question, which is framed and therefore not an honest question is:

Then go protest outside Parliament and dint disrupt peoples day to day lives who are trying to make ends meet "

Exactly!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants.

I’m well aware of how lucky we are to come from here. People from the USA are also lucky. It doesn’t stop us having problems. It’s just relative to us

having lived in various parts of the usa for around 5 years, i for one am glad for our gun laws, but thats a seperate issue, lets not forgeet the us is also one of the worst poluters in the world

Yeah, you guys don’t have the same dangers we do here to warrant mass gun ownership. But, more sport and competitive shooting wouldn’t be bad, we use it to bring in a lot of money for charity.

Of course it’s not the guns it’s the people but we don’t really get homicides because we don’t have guns. "

Would be a completely different story if ya had bears, mountain lions and eagles. I saw one bird swop down and attack a kid in Alaska once, the bird thought it was prey.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh and how exactly is the gov going to fund insulating every house?

Go to your local MP and raise the issue. Then, keep raising it higher and asking for meaningful climate reform.

In the states, we’re stuck with whatever policies Wall Street wants.

I’m well aware of how lucky we are to come from here. People from the USA are also lucky. It doesn’t stop us having problems. It’s just relative to us

having lived in various parts of the usa for around 5 years, i for one am glad for our gun laws, but thats a seperate issue, lets not forgeet the us is also one of the worst poluters in the world

Yeah, you guys don’t have the same dangers we do here to warrant mass gun ownership. But, more sport and competitive shooting wouldn’t be bad, we use it to bring in a lot of money for charity.

Of course it’s not the guns it’s the people but we don’t really get homicides because we don’t have guns.

Would be a completely different story if ya had bears, mountain lions and eagles. I saw one bird swop down and attack a kid in Alaska once, the bird thought it was prey. "

Lol of course but I only have a few squirrels in my garden. I’ve spent time in America I’ve had no problems but Glasgow people just treat people nice until they don’t get respect back, no guns required

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

oh and how exactly is the gov going to

fund insulating every house?

But to help nations that pollute most would require tax payer funding. Aren’t you against that? You don’t want it to help insulate homes in Britain do you but you’d be happy for tax payers money to go to China and India? I agree with this point by the way but if you’re okay with sending funding abroad why aren’t you okay with it being used in the U.K?

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By *LAchillesMan over a year ago

Archway

"[Removed by poster at 29/10/21 02:31:58]

Have all of these protesters walked from their homes to attend? No!

Are there grants and subsidised options available for insulation? Yes!

Will these be the same people that protest because the government increase taxes on everything and anything to recover the costs? Yes!

People need to realise that the government isn't there to provide EVERYTHING free of charge the money has to come from somewhere! And them destroying the economy isn't the answer!

Serious question for you and answer it honestly with either of the 2 answers provided for the question...

What is most important to you...?

2) your dying loved one getting to hospital for life saving treatment instead of being stuck in gridlock?

My answer to your question, which is framed and therefore not an honest question is:

Then go protest outside Parliament and dint disrupt peoples day to day lives who are trying to make ends meet

Exactly! "

Oh dear!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 29/10/21 02:31:58]

Have all of these protesters walked from their homes to attend? No!

Are there grants and subsidised options available for insulation? Yes!

Will these be the same people that protest because the government increase taxes on everything and anything to recover the costs? Yes!

People need to realise that the government isn't there to provide EVERYTHING free of charge the money has to come from somewhere! And them destroying the economy isn't the answer!

Serious question for you and answer it honestly with either of the 2 answers provided for the question...

What is most important to you...?

2) your dying loved one getting to hospital for life saving treatment instead of being stuck in gridlock?

My answer to your question, which is framed and therefore not an honest question is:

Then go protest outside Parliament and dint disrupt peoples day to day lives who are trying to make ends meet

Exactly!

Oh dear!"

What are you oh dearing about