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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No.
Its an appropriate safety precaution for a responsible parent to take.
I know it saved my two from injury on more than one occasion. (even if that was just lifting the reignes up to stop them falling flat on their face) |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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No. Have you seen one of those little fuckers move when they get an idea in their head? Few things are faster.
It is far more practical then holding their hand. Gives them a bit more freedom without limited to, again, a hand hold.
Nothing a good leash and harness can't accomplish! |
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Seriously though, no it's fine.
When I had kids of that age, I had one that would constantly try darting off and if I was dealing with shopping or another child they could have easily slipped away from me and got lost or injured (especially near roads).
The reins allow them some freedom, but also keeps them safe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No. Have you seen one of those little fuckers move when they get an idea in their head? Few things are faster.
It is far more practical then holding their hand. Gives them a bit more freedom without limited to, again, a hand hold.
Nothing a good leash and harness can't accomplish! "
Agree they also learn balancing and walking quicker than if you hold their hands. |
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How can something that keeps a child safe from harm be seen as a bad thing?
I'm pretty sure I had them as a child and have some recollection of my younger sister wearing them too, we were both born in the 70's. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No. I used to put reins on my daughter till she was about 6 when we went shopping and I used to attach them around my belt loops on my jeans. People would look at me like why is her kid still in reins, then when I was rummaging through the clothes rails with my child by my side and seeing other mothers chasing after their kids or losing them or their kids in the clothes knocking stuff off hangers they’d be like ahhh right! My biggest fear when shopping was losing my kid so I see it as responsible parenting. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s definitely better than when you see small children miles ahead or behind the parents, also the parents don’t seem to have any understanding that it just takes that split second for something awful to happen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't approve of this "
Why? Would you rather kid was walking free and running into the road?
Reins are there for a reason, I wish people would use them, and the proper ones, not the ones with a backpack & a silly leash…. It’s allows the child to walk at its own pace rather than being dragged alone by the hand. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A non parent would think it’s cruel.
I'm not a parent and i don't think it's cruel."
Another non parent here, but don’t think it’s “cruel” what’s cruel is having children make your clothes for tuppence, while you pay £50 for it! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A non parent would think it’s cruel.
I'm not a parent and i don't think it's cruel.
Another non parent here, but don’t think it’s “cruel” what’s cruel is having children make your clothes for tuppence, while you pay £50 for it! "
I can agree with that ... Surely if a child is paid tuppence to make it then surely we should not be charged more than a quid.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No. Have you seen one of those little fuckers move when they get an idea in their head? Few things are faster.
It is far more practical then holding their hand. Gives them a bit more freedom without limited to, again, a hand hold.
Nothing a good leash and harness can't accomplish! "
I had twin fuckers. And yes, I leashed them.  |
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"A non parent would think it’s cruel.
I'm not a parent and i don't think it's cruel.
Another non parent here, but don’t think it’s “cruel” what’s cruel is having children make your clothes for tuppence, while you pay £50 for it!
I can agree with that ... Surely if a child is paid tuppence to make it then surely we should not be charged more than a quid...."
Ooohh you are awful  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s only cruel if you lash a few together and get them to pull you down the street. However, if you pop some cardboard antlers on them, no one bats an eyelid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s only cruel if you lash a few together and get them to pull you down the street. However, if you pop some cardboard antlers on them, no one bats an eyelid."
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By *earl555Woman
over a year ago
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"No. Have you seen one of those little fuckers move when they get an idea in their head? Few things are faster.
It is far more practical then holding their hand. Gives them a bit more freedom without limited to, again, a hand hold.
Nothing a good leash and harness can't accomplish! "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The child might have additional needs! I work with such children, and there is nothing more frightening than a child who poses a flight risk.
So I would definitely err on the side of empathy. Some parents of neurodiverse children have such a hard time of it  However it’s my job that has taught me that. I might be more judgy if not for that. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"The child might have additional needs! I work with such children, and there is nothing more frightening than a child who poses a flight risk.
So I would definitely err on the side of empathy. Some parents of neurodiverse children have such a hard time of it However it’s my job that has taught me that. I might be more judgy if not for that."
I saw a Christmas film were the little boy got on the plane to tell the girl he liked her.
What was the film called |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I say fairly regularly and don't see a problem with it, particularly when parents are travelling on a tube with young children just seems like a good safety precaution. |
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"The child might have additional needs! I work with such children, and there is nothing more frightening than a child who poses a flight risk.
So I would definitely err on the side of empathy. Some parents of neurodiverse children have such a hard time of it However it’s my job that has taught me that. I might be more judgy if not for that."
Exactly this my almost 6 year old is a flight risk so has to have reigns on or use the buggy when we are out. It's not cruel when you are keeping your child safe |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The child might have additional needs! I work with such children, and there is nothing more frightening than a child who poses a flight risk.
So I would definitely err on the side of empathy. Some parents of neurodiverse children have such a hard time of it However it’s my job that has taught me that. I might be more judgy if not for that.
I saw a Christmas film were the little boy got on the plane to tell the girl he liked her.
What was the film called "
Not sure how that relates to my comment, but I think it was Love Actually! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"The child might have additional needs! I work with such children, and there is nothing more frightening than a child who poses a flight risk.
So I would definitely err on the side of empathy. Some parents of neurodiverse children have such a hard time of it However it’s my job that has taught me that. I might be more judgy if not for that.
I saw a Christmas film were the little boy got on the plane to tell the girl he liked her.
What was the film called
Not sure how that relates to my comment, but I think it was Love Actually!"
It was thank you
Love actually |
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By *rad670Man
over a year ago
South Lakes |
To answer this you only need to think of stories like Jamie Bulger and stories of children being drowned in pools etc then ask if it is child cruelty or parents who actually care about the safety of their children. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My mum always had my sister in reins as she had a tendency to run away. Unfortunately one day my mum lost her though. She was only 3 at the time when she walked a couple of miles to my gran's house. Obviously my mother was frantic x |
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"I have just seen a parent and young child were the child was on reins. Some might call it a child on a leash. Is this child cruelty ?"
It probably would be child cruelty if the end of the reins were attached to a cart which the parent was being pulled along in.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I use reins on my grandson, it prevents accidents, stops him running off & deters any potential abduction. Can't be to careful these days even when shopping. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've got three kids, before I had kids I had the same mentally, even with my first one I still did (not as far as cruel, just the leash part), then I had two live wired children and they were a godsend on the odd occasion, didnt use them much tbh but useful when we did.
Danish x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd rather a safe child than a dead one. If people want to judge another parent because they are protecting their child then fuck them, they are the only wankers in that situation. I do think it's incredibly important to teach road safety and also just remind your children to remain close, but some kids don't listen no matter what you do.
I'm very fortunate my little one is an angel and great at holding hands and being cautious around roads but I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use one if she wouldn't listen to me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Really?
Is someone actually asking this question?
Has the forum finally run out of sensible questions and this one was found lurking under the barrel...
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Pretty much  |
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"Really?
Is someone actually asking this question?
Has the forum finally run out of sensible questions and this one was found lurking under the barrel...
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It's probably all over the news
He doesn't make it up
Etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Any long term effects ?
Children turn into dogs after 60 minutes.
Then Hannibal Lecter after 90 mins. "
And then into David Attenborough after 169 minutes. |
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Not at all it’s a safety measure. My lad hated his hand being held and well it’s not comfortable for the adult either. He had a wee rucksack that he wore with his things in and from that came a tether.
Very much needed as he would go from from 0-30 (what it seemed at the time) in seconds, plus it gave him his freedom to explore where he wanted without the confines of hand holding |
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"It’s a nice middle ground between free range children and battery children. "
What are your views on organic vs artificially fertilised children? Should we apply chemicals or just shovel on shit? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"It’s a nice middle ground between free range children and battery children.
What are your views on organic vs artificially fertilised children? Should we apply chemicals or just shovel on shit? "
Your choice.
It's a free society |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Any long term effects ?
Children turn into dogs after 60 minutes.
Then Hannibal Lecter after 90 mins.
And then into David Attenborough after 169 minutes.
Then Yoda after 243 minutes. "
And then Obi Wan Kenobis big fat dick after 245 minutes. |
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"Any long term effects ?
Children turn into dogs after 60 minutes.
Then Hannibal Lecter after 90 mins.
And then into David Attenborough after 169 minutes.
Then Yoda after 243 minutes.
And then Obi Wan Kenobis big fat dick after 245 minutes."
And then the big bang happens again and life restarts.
See you in 4 and half billion years LBC. |
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"They never had them when i was growing up...are they shackles,?
My Grandmother used reins on her children, born from 1959 onwards. Are you confessing to a FabAge?!
That could explain a lot "
It would explain why they didn't have them when you were growing up, yes. Do we add 10, 20 years? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"They never had them when i was growing up...are they shackles,?
My Grandmother used reins on her children, born from 1959 onwards. Are you confessing to a FabAge?!
That could explain a lot
It would explain why they didn't have them when you were growing up, yes. Do we add 10, 20 years?"
And the long term effects ? |
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"They never had them when i was growing up...are they shackles,?
My Grandmother used reins on her children, born from 1959 onwards. Are you confessing to a FabAge?!
That could explain a lot
It would explain why they didn't have them when you were growing up, yes. Do we add 10, 20 years?
And the long term effects ?"
A living child? A child not lost in the shopping centre? |
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ..."
They don't live in them every day, but they need to be kept safe from being snatched or run over by cars.
Are you going to start saying the shouldn't wear seat belts as it restricts their freedom in a car? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
They don't live in them every day, but they need to be kept safe from being snatched or run over by cars.
Are you going to start saying the shouldn't wear seat belts as it restricts their freedom in a car? "
I worry about the long term |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ..."
That's the great thing about reigns, they can explore safely |
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By *inx.x3Woman
over a year ago
Bath |
"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
They don't live in them every day, but they need to be kept safe from being snatched or run over by cars.
Are you going to start saying the shouldn't wear seat belts as it restricts their freedom in a car?
I worry about the long term "
Long term what?
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ..."
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road... |
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
They don't live in them every day, but they need to be kept safe from being snatched or run over by cars.
Are you going to start saying the shouldn't wear seat belts as it restricts their freedom in a car?
I worry about the long term
Long term what?
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Strain on the parents shoulders holding back the adventurous child. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road..."
I am not convinced... Why would they run off ? |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
They don't live in them every day, but they need to be kept safe from being snatched or run over by cars.
Are you going to start saying the shouldn't wear seat belts as it restricts their freedom in a car?
I worry about the long term "
They aren't in them until they turn 18 Tom  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No. Have you seen one of those little fuckers move when they get an idea in their head? Few things are faster.
It is far more practical then holding their hand. Gives them a bit more freedom without limited to, again, a hand hold.
Nothing a good leash and harness can't accomplish! "
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! The first line of this reply!! |
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road...
I am not convinced... Why would they run off ?"
Because small children do... you clearly have little or no experience of children. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road...
I am not convinced... Why would they run off ?"
You know how you feel when you see a nice pair of tits?
Well, kids are like that with practically everything they see in a street. A leaf, a cat, the other side of the road, another leaf, some cracks in a pavement, a really interesting gate post... |
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road...
I am not convinced... Why would they run off ?
You know how you feel when you see a nice pair of tits?
Well, kids are like that with practically everything they see in a street. A leaf, a cat, the other side of the road, another leaf, some cracks in a pavement, a really interesting gate post..."
This  |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road...
I am not convinced... Why would they run off ?
Because small children do... you clearly have little or no experience of children. "
I was a child once you know |
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By *inx.x3Woman
over a year ago
Bath |
"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road...
I am not convinced... Why would they run off ?
Because small children do... you clearly have little or no experience of children.
I was a child once you know"
You must be trolling.
I can’t believe anyone would be as naive as you to ask why would children run off. |
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All children are little pricks. All of them. Some of them are little pricks that run away. Some of them are little pricks that kick off when you put them in a push chair.
If a parent sees fit put them in reins then so be it |
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"Children are not animals..
Each to their own
Have you ever spent time with small children Tom? Like walking down a road, round a busy shop etc"
If the quality of Tom's posts are anything to go by, I suspect he has limited life experience in general. |
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"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road...
I am not convinced... Why would they run off ?
Because small children do... you clearly have little or no experience of children. "
Be grateful for small mercies. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I do not like seeing children caged or retrained...they need to explore the environment..
Not chained ...
Tom I sometimes seriously worry about your grasp on reality.
Reins are a valuable safety gadget that are sadly not used as much as I would like these days.
They were common place when I was young and I did occasionally use them myself.
I can confirm that wearing reins as children caused no harto me or my sister and probably stopped us harming ourselves or getting lost.
Young children have a habit of running off to see something that caught their eye. This could be on the other side of a busy road...
I am not convinced... Why would they run off ?
Because small children do... you clearly have little or no experience of children.
Be grateful for small mercies. "
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Tom, would you be able to do a weekly roundup of the news? I like your views on things. You bring me so much joy
I can if you are serious
Genuinely would love it. I like your commentary. "
I am not sure you are serious |
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By *illy71Couple
over a year ago
Staines |
Are you for real, I guess you don't have kids!
Also, no one would call reins a leash, a collar and leash would be cruel, but what is certainly cruel is having a child run over or abducted because they ran away from you.
Just think, a small child slips your hand and does a runner in a crowded shopping centre, he will slip through the crowd far quicker than you ever can, and you won't see here because of all the people
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"Are you for real, I guess you don't have kids!
Also, no one would call reins a leash, a collar and leash would be cruel, but what is certainly cruel is having a child run over or abducted because they ran away from you.
Just think, a small child slips your hand and does a runner in a crowded shopping centre, he will slip through the crowd far quicker than you ever can, and you won't see here because of all the people
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That's where a lasso comes in handy for ropin those pesky varmints when they gets unruly. |
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"Are you for real, I guess you don't have kids!
Also, no one would call reins a leash, a collar and leash would be cruel, but what is certainly cruel is having a child run over or abducted because they ran away from you.
Just think, a small child slips your hand and does a runner in a crowded shopping centre, he will slip through the crowd far quicker than you ever can, and you won't see here because of all the people
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Jamie Bulgar would be alive today if he'd had reins, no I'm not finger pointing |
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"Are you for real, I guess you don't have kids!
Also, no one would call reins a leash, a collar and leash would be cruel, but what is certainly cruel is having a child run over or abducted because they ran away from you.
Just think, a small child slips your hand and does a runner in a crowded shopping centre, he will slip through the crowd far quicker than you ever can, and you won't see here because of all the people
Jamie Bulgar would be alive today if he'd had reins, no I'm not finger pointing"
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Travelling |
"Are you for real, I guess you don't have kids!
Also, no one would call reins a leash, a collar and leash would be cruel, but what is certainly cruel is having a child run over or abducted because they ran away from you.
Just think, a small child slips your hand and does a runner in a crowded shopping centre, he will slip through the crowd far quicker than you ever can, and you won't see here because of all the people
Jamie Bulgar would be alive today if he'd had reins, no I'm not finger pointing
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