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Can you go vegan?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I doubt i could..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nope. I love meat too much.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love meat too.

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By *igInHer14Man over a year ago

Bolton

It’s a piece of piss.

Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe.

I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely.

I feel like a new person, it’s incredible.

DO IT!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? "

Forgot to mention, mean is also the cause of diseases

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It’s a piece of piss.

Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe.

I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely.

I feel like a new person, it’s incredible.

DO IT!!"

Do you feel that you have less energy?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No because of the dairy and eggs. I don’t eat a lot of meat at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I somehow gone off of red meat naturally. Simply don't want it anymore. I'm still enjoying poultry, fish and seafood. Don't think I could go vegan. Not yet anyway.

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"It’s a piece of piss.

Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe.

I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely.

I feel like a new person, it’s incredible.

DO IT!!"

Can I ask in what way do you feel different? I've just recently cut out red meat......

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

No definitely not. I could probably go vegetarian if I really had to but rather stay as I am

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Love vegan food eat it 2 or 3 times a week then maybe one red meat one fish one chicken then rest is vegi not necessarily vegan

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’d dearly love to, but not entirely certain I could

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If I went vegan would I still be able to eat Nigella Lawson?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No definitely not. I could probably go vegetarian if I really had to but rather stay as I am

You love meat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Given the choice never!

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"No definitely not. I could probably go vegetarian if I really had to but rather stay as I am

You love meat

I don’t think vegans have to give up cock. Do they?

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By *hitsbayMan over a year ago

Whitstable

The energy thing is if you go wholefood vegan you will need to eat significantly more volume of food. If you go the junk food way you have so many choices and really amazing substitutions ie the new McDonald's plant burger people are saying its better than a quarter pounder

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?"

Q: do you eat pussy?

A: no, I'm vegan

Hope this helps

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By *ustme34Man over a year ago

Bradford

Full vegan or just a plant based diet OP ?

I went plant based for nearly 2 years . Main thing i missed was cheese . Vegan cheese sucks. Apart from that the meat replacements aren't bad these days. In stil plant based most of the week but do enjoy proper meat now and again.

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?"

Turkey twizzler and the sperm depends on the diet of the owner

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No definitely not. I could probably go vegetarian if I really had to but rather stay as I am

You love meat

I don’t think vegans have to give up cock. Do they?

I'm not vegan yet, nor do I like cock

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"It’s a piece of piss.

Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe.

I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely.

I feel like a new person, it’s incredible.

DO IT!!

Do you feel that you have less energy? "

I feel way better and have more energy.

Everyone is different though, and people's bodies react differently. I gradually have up dairy after having been vegetarian for years before.

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

Cutting down on meat consumption is a good idea! We try and have a couple of vegetarian meals a week. I tried veganism when I was seeing my old girlfriend but what with my severe nut allergies it wasn't sustainable for long for me. Introducing more veg/fish to your diet isn't a bad idea.

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By *ustme34Man over a year ago

Bradford

"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?"
Vegans can swallow semen because—for purposes of ingestion—semen is considered vegan-friendly. While sperm are alive in a crude biological sense, they are not conscious or sentient.... google says yes

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Full vegan or just a plant based diet OP ?

If you go plant based or vegan or vegetarian, why eat meat replacements?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I thought being Vegan was a whole lot more than just cutting meat out, somebody has mentioned eggs and milk also Honey is out with some vegans and then you would need to look at your clothes, no leather for a start

I am not Vegan but i respect those that are it is a life choice, but do not think cutting meat out means you are vegan

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By *ustme34Man over a year ago

Bradford

"Full vegan or just a plant based diet OP ?

If you go plant based or vegan or vegetarian, why eat meat replacements? "
i like the taste of meat but didnt want to eat meat.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? "

I did try it and it wasn’t sustainable for my body either. I already lack in B12 and that’s something vegan and vegetarian will suffer and it’s recommended to take extra B12

When I did try it, my body went into shut down and I started getting mouth ulcers and felt generally Ill. So I knew it wasn’t for me. And that’s okay.

I don’t eat a ton lot of meat ANYWAY. And it’s very minimal and in small quantities (usually I’d eat it like 2-3 times a week and I don’t remember when I last had red meat … but I’d definitely order a steak out if I want to

) x

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By *ustme34Man over a year ago

Bradford

"I thought being Vegan was a whole lot more than just cutting meat out, somebody has mentioned eggs and milk also Honey is out with some vegans and then you would need to look at your clothes, no leather for a start

I am not Vegan but i respect those that are it is a life choice, but do not think cutting meat out means you are vegan

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it is . They change clothing household products and all sorts . Thats why i asked if OP meant vegan or just plant based diet.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

I am not Vegan but i respect those that are it is a life choice, but do not think cutting meat out means you are vegan

Eggs and milk are animal products, so all "vegans" don't eat them.

There's a difference between vegan diet, and vegan. You can never completely cut out animal products. You can reduce your usage.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don’t drink milk so I swapped to alternatives, soya milk and oat. And soya yogurt. I still eat cheese in moderation tho m

Normal milk really didn’t agree with my tummy!

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

No. I would be extremely ill on a high carb diet and a severe lack of essential nutrients.

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By *izzy.miss.lizzyCouple over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

I couldn't give up my roast beef, my bacon sandwiches, my chicken kormas, my pork chowmeins, my salami pizzas, and so on, so it's a no from me.

When we go without its' usually replaced with cheese so I am a bit lazy in the kitchen when it's not meat I am using.

I do love shop bought vegetarian food too, lentils, nuts, beans and all the other ones, (apart from tofu, can't stand it) but I understand thats' very different to giving meat up altogether.

I guess it works for some who can adjust, I am glad for those who do, I just can't stand the militant ones who bleet on that meat is murder and we should all stop eating it right now. Everybody is entitled to make their own choices on it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?"

That’s the only milk coming from a warm living body I’ll happily drink

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, i do 2 meat free days a week but going vegan doesnt interest me it wouldnt suit my life style.

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

I seldom eat meat but going vegan is too costly for me as you need to buy special make up and toiletries which cost a small fortune.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Done it. All comes down to mindset, some people just don't want to stop doing what they enjoy, even if they know it's bad for them/the environment. I don't judge, each to their own.

I stopped a long while ago and have never looked back. It's led to an improvement in my physical wellbeing and general mental health, as well as being a lot more inventive in the kitchen.

I try to avoid all the cheese substitutes and fake sausages/bacon etc... as they're mostly full of absolute garbage/chemicals.

Meat is a luxury and it's not good for us to have it every single day.

Once I did some reading and saw the way animals get treated in industrial farming, there was never any question that I'd stop and I don't miss it at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I am not Vegan but i respect those that are it is a life choice, but do not think cutting meat out means you are vegan

it is . They change clothing household products and all sorts . Thats why i asked if OP meant vegan or just plant based diet. "

Just mild plant based to start with and see how I feel

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We have been vegan for years and years. It’s no big deal now to be a vegan. Years ago you would have all the usual nonsense thrown at you but now people have grown up and now that it is mainstream you no longer get uninformed comments.

Also bear in mind you can have a very bad vegan diet if you eat all the processed junk. Going vegan isn’t a given for a healthy eating, you have to be aware of what you are eating the same as any diet.

But can tell you this, you will feel better for it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That’s the only milk coming from a warm living body I’ll happily drink

HAHAAHA!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have been vegan for years and years. It’s no big deal now to be a vegan. Years ago you would have all the usual nonsense thrown at you but now people have grown up and now that it is mainstream you no longer get uninformed comments.

But can tell you this, you will feel better for it. "

Amen to that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?

That’s the only milk coming from a warm living body I’ll happily drink

I’ve got a tight hard on now. Thanks!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do vegans swallow?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?

That’s the only milk coming from a warm living body I’ll happily drink

I’ve got a tight hard on now. Thanks! "

I might have to put that on a t-shirt even tho it’s kind of a long quote

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do vegans swallow?"

I mean …. it’s ethically sourced right? X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No intention of becoming vegan.

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

No, I wouldn't. I love proper cheese and fish way too much. I can live with substitutes of beef or chicken but, where we are now, even they are not that brilliant!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Could probably cut red meat out but no chicken love it don't eat anything from the sea or fruit and most veg so probably not

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

But what about KFC, I like KFC

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But what about KFC, I like KFC

Their vegan option is absolute shite as well. I once had to get it as it was the only thing available. Horrid.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"But what about KFC, I like KFC

Their vegan option is absolute shite as well. I once had to get it as it was the only thing available. Horrid."

Colonel will be turning in his grave

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah there are some duff vegan options on the shelves but it is slowly getting there.

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By *good-being-badMan over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

"It’s a piece of piss.

Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe.

I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely.

I feel like a new person, it’s incredible.

DO IT!!"

Let me think.. DO IT!! Nope thought about it.. No thanks,

you made / make your choice(s) and let others make theirs.

World would be a far better place if others respected others choices.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was a vegan for many years. I could give up meat, dairy and other animal derived products but I love leather. I tend not to buy new leather, most of mine is vintage and was purchased second hand. If I see something well made at a fet market I might make an exception.

Old leather is so beautiful. I have loads of tooled leather bags, cowboy boots and bullwhips that I wouldn't want to part with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

there is one thiing that would prevent me from doing it.

BACON!!!!!!

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By *tarflyLouWoman over a year ago

Preston

No, we live on a farm, it wouldn’t be a popular decision if I announced that one!

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By *ewrocksWoman over a year ago

button moon

Nope, but I buy meat from local producers, where I can check the living conditions of animals. Eggs come from a friend's free range pet chickens.

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By *partharmonyCouple over a year ago

Ruislip

I like meat and fish but I feel guilty about it. I think I could cut down, not that I have much, but I'm not sure I could give it up completely. I would be willing to try. Luke

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

wokingham

No I perform better on meat

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Vegan for 5 years ish ......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I could (not permanently) if you let asked me a year ago it would be a firm no lol.

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Llanelli

Not a chance, I love meat and wouldn't make it past a couple of days without it

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By *ocksareoffMan over a year ago

Out n About

Nah I like my meat too much. Beef burgers, lamb, chicken and God forbid I'd have to give up bacon

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By *arkus1812Man over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

Will never be a Vegan

I like all meat, poultry and Fish

I have leather seat coverings in my car.

I have leather covered furniture in my home

I wear leather shoes

I cannot see myself changing any of that in the forseeable future

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Will never be a Vegan

I like all meat, poultry and Fish

I have leather seat coverings in my car.

I have leather covered furniture in my home

I wear leather shoes

I cannot see myself changing any of that in the forseeable future"

Neither can I Tarkus.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? "

I've been vegan for 5-6 years.. Was veggie for 30 years before that. I think with Nigella, it's more a publicity thing - she still has books /TV programmes to push

My only regret is not doing it sooner (I listened to the nay-sayers, telling me I'd die from lack of nutrients.. My mum still misguidedly tells me this, so i think it is a generation thing

)

My health is better and i am stronger, and I have better energy than when I was veggie.

I'd say it's very easy if it's something you genuinely want to do. You can be as healthy or as unhealthy as you like, pretty much as with any other diet!

If you want to chat about it, DM me, happy to help /answer queries

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese.

My health and fitness has never been better.

I love vegetarian food, it's delicious.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vegan for 5 years ish ......

I'll do you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was a vegan for many years. I could give up meat, dairy and other animal derived products but I love leather. I tend not to buy new leather, most of mine is vintage and was purchased second hand. If I see something well made at a fet market I might make an exception.

Old leather is so beautiful. I have loads of tooled leather bags, cowboy boots and bullwhips that I wouldn't want to part with."

I would count that as still being vegan as buying second hand is a more ethical choice than buying new.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have a strict gf diet so many of the things I eat are vegan too but love a nice big gf sausage so I could never go full vegan

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese.

My health and fitness has never been better.

I love vegetarian food, it's delicious. "

Ooooo have you tried naturli? It come in block +spreadable version - i had a very pleasant surprise when i tried it

(you can get it in sainsburys +waitrose)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese.

My health and fitness has never been better.

I love vegetarian food, it's delicious.

Ooooo have you tried naturli? It come in block +spreadable version - i had a very pleasant surprise when i tried it

(you can get it in sainsburys +waitrose) "

No but I'll have a look. Butter is my thing. I'm a bit obsessed with it!

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By *heGateKeeperMan over a year ago

Stratford

No. The idea of substitution of my favourite items for expensive replicas does not apply.

I do eat vegan regularly, as it’s idea for meal prep and lunches but I like what I like

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By *host63Man over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

I coukd cut down but not give it up completely

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese.

My health and fitness has never been better.

I love vegetarian food, it's delicious.

Ooooo have you tried naturli? It come in block +spreadable version - i had a very pleasant surprise when i tried it

(you can get it in sainsburys +waitrose)

No but I'll have a look. Butter is my thing. I'm a bit obsessed with it!"

Yeah me too and i kinda resigned myself I'd have to start eating dry toast

'normal' people I've tested it on, unknowingly, haven't known the difference

Tell me what you think xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese.

My health and fitness has never been better.

I love vegetarian food, it's delicious.

Ooooo have you tried naturli? It come in block +spreadable version - i had a very pleasant surprise when i tried it

(you can get it in sainsburys +waitrose)

No but I'll have a look. Butter is my thing. I'm a bit obsessed with it!

Yeah me too and i kinda resigned myself I'd have to start eating dry toast

'normal' people I've tested it on, unknowingly, haven't known the difference

Tell me what you think xx"

Oooh OK, I'm quite excited now. I'll give it a try. Xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Been doing it for almost 10 years.

Still alive so far

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Old leather is so beautiful. I have loads of tooled leather bags, cowboy boots and bullwhips that I wouldn't want to part with.

I would count that as still being vegan as buying second hand is a more ethical choice than buying new. "

When I was vegan it was because of the animals not for dietary reasons. I used to sell vintage clothing but would not stock fur, leather, wool or silk. I'm kind of an "all in" person. I meet so many vegans that wear and buy leather. If it's a health thing then cool but leather is a industry on its own not a byproduct.

I eat very little meat compared to most and I ask myself if I had to kill, prepare and cook this animal could I do it? The answer is yes, cows being the hardest yet I eat less beef and tend to stick to fish and Fowl.

A bit of a ramble but I hope it makes some sense

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By *inkyeroticaCouple over a year ago

Ampthill

Next week, I’ll be vegan two years. No going back for me! Never felt better, health noticeably improved in all areas, so more than happy with the choice.

I thought I’d miss dairy but found alternatives. Cheese is the most difficult but a few good ones exist. Eggs? Not had any since turning vegan.

For me the exploitation of animals, the intense animal cruelty, the environmental impact and personal health were the reasons to make the change.

Yes, I have leather goods purchased before I went vegan. I’ll keep using them until they need to be replaced, at which point their replacements will be vegan.

Being vegan is very missunderstood, as are the supposed health benefits of the non-vegan diet, and free range farming.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm an omnivore, I eat meat & veg and enjoy both.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In a word

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By *riving_Home_For_MimiWoman over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

I'd starve, not a fan of veg.

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By *he_Last_TitanMan over a year ago

Bristol

I couldn’t.

However, the quality of choice is much better than in years gone by.

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I wouldn't even attempt to go vegan.

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

No I would quite happily be mostly vegetarian though apart from sundays

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm an omnivore, I eat meat & veg and enjoy both."

Same here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hell no.

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

The problem is in some parts of the world vegan food is much more a stupid politically correct, bandwagon jumping, fad adopting by-product rather than a years-long, conscious, concerted effort to provide a section of the public with a healthier alternative.

When we lived in England, Quorn and Linda McCartney’s products were far superior to what we have here. I remember a few months ago when I had tried a pack of vegan sausages and the edible outer cover they had resembled plastic gift wrapping. That’s a bit of a mockery to the consumer I think. I badly miss my Quorn Swedish balls and pulled pork

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nope, love bacon way too much to go vegan

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Of course I could but not going too enjoy a full varied diet which includes meat.

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

Wouldn't want to try to be honest.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? "
Nope. I would not want to either

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man over a year ago

BRIDPORT

Can I go vegan?

Yes, I can.

Will I go vegan?

No, I won’t.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'd struggle with deficiencies. I wish I could.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I probably can cut down but not sure it's condusive to supplementing my fitness goals which are to get absolutely fuckin' swole

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nope couldn't, roast beef is far too important to me

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By *inkyeroticaCouple over a year ago

Ampthill

"I probably can cut down but not sure it's condusive to supplementing my fitness goals which are to get absolutely fuckin' swole

If anything, it could help with your goals!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? "

I don't really know the full 100% vegan stipulations etc but l have stopped eating red meat regularly since Jan 2020 and now l cook fish and veg 6 days a week , But l drink full milk ..eat Jaffa's..maybe a Mars bar etc during the week , but if l was visiting someone's house and they stuck on a bit of dinner and there was red meat in it of course l'd eat it but in general l stopped eating red meat ,check out " Game Changer " on Netflix..it's a brilliant documentary movie on a person trying to find the ultimate diet for sport's people and everyday people..see what you think of it but just to say since l stopped eating the red meat l have found more energy .

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By *iamondCougarWoman over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Whilst I wouldn’t be able to do it I do admire those who chose a vegan lifestyle. It must be so difficult to avoid anything that isn’t. Even Lateral Flow tests are not vegan friendly!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whilst I wouldn’t be able to do it I do admire those who chose a vegan lifestyle. It must be so difficult to avoid anything that isn’t. Even Lateral Flow tests are not vegan friendly!! "

I had no idea! So what do vegans use instead?

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By *hunderace...Man over a year ago

Dudley

Bono's a vegan, if he can do it so can U2

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Whilst I wouldn’t be able to do it I do admire those who chose a vegan lifestyle. It must be so difficult to avoid anything that isn’t. Even Lateral Flow tests are not vegan friendly!! "

Oh god, that's less than ideal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I probably can cut down but not sure it's condusive to supplementing my fitness goals which are to get absolutely fuckin' swole

If anything, it could help with your goals!"

How so? I don't think vegan options are as enriched with protein as meat. Although there are good vegan options for healthy fats and carbs.

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Do it ! I’ve cut down from eating meat 2-3 times a day 7x a week to maybe 4-5 times a week and less each time , a big reduction, I can’t lift like I used to but actually feel stronger, healthier and lost a bit of weight and save a lot of money on food , especially beef

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I probably can cut down but not sure it's condusive to supplementing my fitness goals which are to get absolutely fuckin' swole

If anything, it could help with your goals!

How so? I don't think vegan options are as enriched with protein as meat. Although there are good vegan options for healthy fats and carbs."

Oblivion do a vegan protein powder. Nearly as much protein as the regular version.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nope, not sure I could. But I could go vegetarian.

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By *inkyeroticaCouple over a year ago

Ampthill

"How so? I don't think vegan options are as enriched with protein as meat. Although there are good vegan options for healthy fats and carbs."

There are three documentary films I always recommend:

1. Game changers

2. Forks over knives

3. Cowspiracy

Watch, learn, and do your own research.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hell no, not one second

I’m proud and delighted to be a meat eater

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? "

I have no interest in reducing my meat intake, let alone becoming Vegan. I personally don't think that a vegan diet itself can provide everything that I need.

On the other hand, I would whole heartedly support a return to locally sourced food and only being able to buy what is "in season". 99% of the environmental impacts that veganism would help with are caused by large industrial farming practices and globally shipped food. These would be reduced massively by returning to traditional farming methods.

Cal

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild?

Cal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts?

Forgot to mention, mean is also the cause of diseases "

I believe I should, I just really don't want to do I put it off. I have made more effort to choose meat free options but I know I'm a hypocrite who knows be should do more but doesn't.

What diseases are caused by meat?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I did for 4 years. Just made me sick towards the end as my body craved the nutrients and stuff.

Took me 20 minutes to get meat inside me…

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By *uxom redCouple over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Using coconut as a substitute for lots of things wouldn't be possible due to an allergy.

Meat vise I do try to eat vegan/vegetarian at least once a week.

Stopping eating meat not a problem I was vegetarian for 7 years, eggs and cheeses would be my problem.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Using coconut as a substitute for lots of things wouldn't be possible due to an allergy.

Meat vise I do try to eat vegan/vegetarian at least once a week.

Stopping eating meat not a problem I was vegetarian for 7 years, eggs and cheeses would be my problem. "

Oh i can see how that would be tricky - same as a nut alleries + nightshade family

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By *umslaveTV/TS over a year ago

Sheffield

Is it vegan if you regularly swallow sperm? Asking for a friend.

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By *irthandgirthMan over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

I'm a proud omnivore. I do eat more fresh fruit/ veg than any of my vegan colleagues. I'm not a fan of restrictive diets. I try and source my meat from local sources. That's where I draw my line in the sand. A lot of vegan products are worse for the environment/you than meat products. But that's a different argument.

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By *inkyeroticaCouple over a year ago

Ampthill

"I personally don't think that a vegan diet itself can provide everything that I need."

My suggestion to you Cal would be to watch the three documentaries I listed previously, and do your own research. That should reassure you that a vegan diet can provide everything you need.

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I'm a fan of veg

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By *indergirlWoman over a year ago

somewhere, someplace

Based on some of today's pics I may convert

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By *eardybobMan over a year ago

the Goldilocks Zone

"I'm a fan of veg

Apparently so!

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By *inkyeroticaCouple over a year ago

Ampthill

"I did for 4 years. Just made me sick towards the end as my body craved the nutrients and stuff.

In the absence of an underlying condition, that would suggest you were not managing your diet. The nutrition you need can be found in a healthy vegan diet!

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"I'm a fan of veg

Apparently so!

But I couldn't give up your sausage

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By *irthandgirthMan over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

"I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild?

Cal"

Probably the opposite. They would be free and breeding. Populations would go up. Because if everyone was vegan they wouldn't be allowed to cull them. Though sheep might die if they all get sick due to not being sheared..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not a hope whilst i have New Forest ice-cream to chow!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not a hope whilst i have New Forest ice-cream to chow!!"

Yeah, actually. I really like ice cream as well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild?

Cal"

There wouldn't be any. They only exist because they are bred as farm animals, and most are unable to survive in the wild, even if there was room for them.

Apart from the breeds of sheep that can shed their own fleeces each year

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild?

Cal

I'm not sure they'd just be left to wander free. Any change like this wouldn't happen over night, no government would bring in a law banning all animal farming with immediate effect and without such a law it wouldn't happen at all. So let's say it is banned - with farmers given a few years notice so that the industry doesn't collapse. Animals would be sold and killed as now just in steadily decreasing numbers as farm after farm switches to growing avocado or whatever. There would be a massive upheaval and job loss in many parts of the country, upland Britain simply isn't suitable for farming anything other than sheep. Short term this would lead to significant social deprivation in many areas (think of the mine closures that whole communities still suffer from). Longer term, much of the uplands would once again become forested, we would almost certainly need to look at the reintroduction of apex predators to manage land that humans no longer have any use for.

There are plenty of farms now that are run a visitor attractions with rare breeds being kept. These aren't rare breed in the sense of species going extinct, just taste breeds of domesticated animals - none of which bare more than a passing resemblance to the wild animals they are descended from.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Zoos are also not vegan friendly

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"It’s a piece of piss.

Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe.

I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely.

I feel like a new person, it’s incredible.

DO IT!!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some people are more suited to a vegan diet than others, and some people's lifestyles are more suited to vegan diets than others.

I was vegetarian for 29 years before becoming vegan. After 3 years I started having diet related health problems.

I see a lot of people saying they took up veganism 6 months ago and feel great - if you were to get any health problems, they are years down the line

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild?

Cal

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Breeding would be an issue, almost every creature in farming is female. There is a real shortage of genetic diversity due to the small number of males used. It would certainly require moving animals around to prevent "inbreeding"... moving the animals about also wouldn't be "vegan".

Cal

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

It would depend on my motivation. Just 'because', no. I enjoy the taste and the smell of meat. Just looking at the picture of a greasy dirty burger with meltes cheese on it make me salivate.

If it was imperative for my health then yes.... Or at least I'd give it a go. I feel I eat less meat now I am on a lifestyle change but that's because of calories. I don't actually consume much dairy any more.

I'm sorry to say that the animals don't actually factor in to my rationalising this debate. Of course I don't want animals to be mistreated or killed in humanely but they taste nice so for me to enjoy them they must be killed. Maybe a tad crass for some to take but that's how I feel.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im awaiting blocks of every kind and direction!! (And i welcome it! You dont understand, you're not with t!)

one of jobs.... On call dispatch.(I cover 3 counties) I shoot animals with no hope of survival and are in pain.... Basically, I end lives of animals.... Am i evil in the eyes of a staunch vegan with strong beliefs?? Am evil in all vegans eyes, because i pull the trigger??

(Profile hidden but I can still get abusive mails via here! It's all good and I will not report!)

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By *uenevereWoman over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Im awaiting blocks of every kind and direction!! (And i welcome it! You dont understand, you're not with t!)

(Profile hidden but I can still get abusive mails via here! It's all good and I will not report!)"

In my opinion, what you do is merciful not evil.

I think that euthanasia is humane and should be available to people too. I hate watching any living creature suffer.

Not everyone will agree but differing opinions, without malice, are interesting.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Vegan for 5 years ish ......

I'll do you

Such a huge piece of pork for one woman don't you think ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Full vegan or just a plant based diet OP ?

If you go plant based or vegan or vegetarian, why eat meat replacements? "

It's a shared language to enable communication.

Sausage is a shape - not a meat.

Burger is a shape as is a pattie..... not a meat.

Plant based MEAT balls ..... shit....

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By *luttyLaylaWoman over a year ago

North West

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? "

I don’t eat dairy or processed meat

but do still eat meat.

Watch “what the health” on Netflix!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Not the old 'lack of vitamin' argument again ... !ffs.

Anyone would think that the vitamin industry sprang up last year to support the poor y vegans....

The vitamin industry has been thriving for years for all those that never eat fruit or veg or enough protein.....

B12 is put into feed so that your MEAT has it in it.

Vegans get it in plant form or tablet or liquid form.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

that said ...... wee - dy

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By *ex HolesMan over a year ago

Up North

"Not the old 'lack of vitamin' argument again ... !ffs.

Anyone would think that the vitamin industry sprang up last year to support the poor y vegans....

The vitamin industry has been thriving for years for all those that never eat fruit or veg or enough protein.....

B12 is put into feed so that your MEAT has it in it.

Vegans get it in plant form or tablet or liquid form.

I have B12 in my meat

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By *heArrowsCouple over a year ago

Veganism is a lifestyle. It's not a small commitment. It's a repudiation of large aspects of modern living.

Cutting meat out of your diet isn't enough. It's more than that.

I can become a vegetarian. I love meat but I know I could easily live without it. But to deny myself butter, cream, ice cream, leather, wool ... milk ... eggs ... that's a step too far for me.

I think the future is vegetarianism but Veganism is the extremist political movement that will make vegetarianism seem like a reasonable option

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s a piece of piss.

Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe.

I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely.

I feel like a new person, it’s incredible.

DO IT!!

No"

I think the issue with these types of threads is that they invariably become a series of anecdotes. There will be vegans saying that they're more healthy than they've ever been and others saying they tried and got ill, this last group then get told they didn't have the "right" vegan diet

Can you live a vegan diet? Yes absolutely. You have to have B12 supplements - anyone telling you this is found in certain foods is taking bollocks, it is in those foods as a supplement (yeast is the classic example of this, it doesn't naturally produce b12). However, to make a vegan diet work requires a great deal of attention to ensuring you get the correct amount of various nutrients which in turn means a careful selection of food. Any diet where you pay this level of careful attention to what you eat and select meals specifically to ensure the correct balance of nutrients will make you feel better than the standard processed crap we mostly eat now. This effect is then hailed as being all about going vegan rather than making life changing alterations to how you view food. It isn't, you feel better because you're eating a balanced diet - and one that doesn't contain the known poisons that are used to preserve processed meat.

Are there arguments for going vegan from an animal welfare point of view? Absolutely. Are there arguments from an environmental point of view? Absolutely. Are there arguments from a health point of view? No. There are studies that give a correlation with lower risk of certain illnesses but these are not controlled for by comparing vegan with an equally carefully controlled non vegan diet - there simply aren't enough non vegans who take the same level of care to ensure their diet provides everything. This type of study requires long term information from thousands of test subjects and such data with all variables controlled for simply doesn't exist. Also, these studies are only ever for specific diseases, not life expectancy as a whole - I have been reading lately about efforts to correlate this but the data is inconclusive and full of potential problems.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The B12 from plants is new mis information spread to promote veganism.

Even when I was vegan I was aware I had to make sure I had suppliments for it or eat food that had it added.

For the new vegans out there who have been mis informed, the vegan society has a page on this, simply Google vegan society b12 to get it

"Sources of vitamin B12:

Vitamin B12 is made by micro-organisms, and isn't produced by plants. Fortified foods and supplements are the only proven reliable sources for vegans"

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By *irthandgirthMan over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

Oysters are vegan (going by one definition)

Avocados are not vegan....

Go figure

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By *ilverjagMan over a year ago

swansea

More chance of the pope becoming a Muslim than me going vegan.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"It’s a piece of piss.

Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe.

I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely.

I feel like a new person, it’s incredible.

DO IT!!"

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By *inkyeroticaCouple over a year ago

Ampthill

This type of study requires long term information from thousands of test subjects and such data with all variables controlled for simply doesn't exist.

Look for the impact on cardiac health in Norway during WW2, when their dairy output was taken by the Germans for their war effort. (It’s in one of the documentaries I’ve referred to earlier)

A lot of the “modern diet” information is pushed on us by big business.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I switch it on and off. Some weeks I will cook vegan or veggie meal most days, others will be meat based. Depends what I have in the fridge to use up as well as what I fancy - Loads of old veg in the fridge = veg curry or lasagne for 4 days

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’d miss bacon too much

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By *apxxxWoman over a year ago

North Shropshire not Wales!!!ffs & Manchester

No and not even going to try...doubt I could be vegetarian either..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No.

I can promise you that grass fed pasture raised livestock production is absolutely essential for the well being of the planet and human survival. Anybody disagreeing with that doesn't know enough about agriculture and soils. Period.

By eating meat you are helping to retain viability of food production in the vast majority of the UKs agricultural land which cannot grow anything but grass. Livestock husbandry standards in the UK exceed anywhere else in the world by some margin and my business for one is inspected to the teeth every year fully quality assured and traceable right through the chain to what field the barley comes from that gets fed to the sheep. Be under no allusion that cheap food from abroad (including btw most fruit and veg in our supermarkets) is very definitely subjected to lower controls, higher chemical exposure and hundreds of food miles .. economies of scale that create factory farming are driven by the buyers / the supermarkets under the Monika of 'consumer demand'. Be very careful what media pedalled stuff you read about food and farming. 90pc of it is completely wrong and that is no joke.

Plant based very definitely costs the planet way more than british meat and the labelling I'm afraid is very suspect. A huge amount of the vegan argument is now funded and pushed through highly effective and profitable social media channels by multi national corporations sniffing out a current trend.

All that said if you can't handle the idea of an animal being shattered to provide food clothing materials etc etc thousands of other by products then that is your choice and always should be. People must always have the choice, but the true facts must be digested to arrive at the correct choice for you.

There is nothing more important than the food that makes you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*slaughtered

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By *andyfloss2000Woman over a year ago

ashford

Have cut meat out 6 years ago never looked back vegan is the next step and I loved eating meat x

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By *wingamajigsCouple over a year ago

Folkestone

I did (husband) however no real gain in fight against diabetes which was dissapointing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I went Vegan for year with a previous partner yes you feel great and the health benefits are amazing ..but truth behold I missed eggs and some meat also I found it really difficult to consume enough food so I didn't feel starving

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By *inkyeroticaCouple over a year ago

Ampthill

"I can promise you that grass fed pasture raised livestock production is absolutely essential for the well being of the planet and human survival. Anybody disagreeing with that doesn't know enough about agriculture and soils. Period."

Interesting. Please qualify your argument. How can the death of an animal be essential for the planet?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting. Please qualify your argument. How can the death of an animal be essential for the planet?"

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By *xydadbodMan over a year ago

Milton keynes

Nope.. I won't survive for long if I did. Fair play to those that are of course.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting. Please qualify your argument. How can the death of an animal be essential for the planet?"

Can you not see the irony of what you've just said ?? . Do you not understand basic biological cycles ? What do you think happens to human bodies when they are buried ? It's all part of the cycle. Millions of animals die every minute all over the planet and all contribute to the natural cycle of things, whether they are eaten by humans, other animals or maggots. Grim but natural.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her.

I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? "

Don’t blame her !

That girl looks like she loves her meat !

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By *inkyeroticaCouple over a year ago

Ampthill

Interesting. Please qualify your argument. How can the death of an animal be essential for the planet?

If what you inferred is what I thought, yes, but it isn’t. I was asking why animal livestock production is essential for the planet and, for the record, the eventual waste isn’t nicely buried in graves. We are talking about animals as a PRODUCT.

So, for clarity, Why is the creation and eventual destruction of an animal essential to the planet?

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple over a year ago

liverpool

I (mr) have been vegan for nearly 10 years so it's definitely possible.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple over a year ago

liverpool

"How so? I don't think vegan options are as enriched with protein as meat. Although there are good vegan options for healthy fats and carbs.

There are three documentary films I always recommend:

1. Game changers

2. Forks over knives

3. Cowspiracy

Watch, learn, and do your own research."

I second this

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By *arlingslutCouple over a year ago

Devon

My spunk is vegan ??

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

Defenitly i could

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Christ no. I love the taste of meat too much.

As for nigella, while i dont know what she was eating during her short stint going vegan, ppl cant just suddenly switch their diets so dramatically and expect it to work or not have some profund and adverse affects on their body. She most likely made the switch overnight and wasnt eating any of the right foods.

Ppl really need to learn more about nutrition in general before they start making these sorts of decisions. Its not a lifestyle choice, its a way of life.

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By *ily Con CarneTV/TS over a year ago

Cornwall

Nope... no way

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I probably could if I HAD to, but I just don’t want to.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Watch a documentary on Netflix called Game Changers. It may convince you to go vegan

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By *ily Con CarneTV/TS over a year ago

Cornwall

"Watch a documentary on Netflix called Game Changers. It may convince you to go vegan "

No it wouldn't (well not me anyway)

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By *othicslaveCouple over a year ago

Norfolk

No, need the goodness from the meat for many reasons

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Absolutely not. It wouldn't bring me any joy needing to supplement food.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oo, I'm not sure, i am cooking chicken at the moment, bloody thing woke me up this morning.

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By *olden RatioWoman over a year ago

Buckinghamshire

Yeah, I did for just over a year. However, my downfall was dominoes pizza... mind you, they do have a vegan version now so maybe I'll give it another go.

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