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I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
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Some women look like men. Some men look like women.
You have gorgeous hair and figure OP. | |||
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"If a woman fancies a trans woman she might be gay.
"Exactly! Or if a woman fancies a man who’s transgender, she’s still straight. I mean some guys (ftm) are freaking handsome as !!! X  | |||
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"Id say bi, but honestly who cares about lables. "Exactly. Focus on the person, not what's between their legs. | |||
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"Id say bi, but honestly who cares about lables.
Exactly. Focus on the person, not what's between their legs.
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"I fancy a trans woman.... Am I gay?! " Are you? | |||
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"I fancy a trans woman.... Am I gay?! Are you?" A little bit  | |||
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"I fancy a trans woman.... Am I gay?! Are you? A little bit "
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"Fuck labels. Fancy who you fancy. " What he said | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man." No you cant | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man." So sleeping with a post op transwomen with a vagina makes you Gay ??? | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man." Bet you must have done thorough and extensive research on all transgender women then x CONGRATS! | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. So sleeping with a post op transwomen with a vagina makes you Gay ??? "Applying the same logic Maybe he would sleep with a bearded ripped trans man because …biologically he was born female x
Who freaking knows x | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. So sleeping with a post op transwomen with a vagina makes you Gay ???
Applying the same logic
Maybe he would sleep with a bearded ripped trans man because …biologically he was born female x
Who freaking knows x "Fabulous xxx | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man." That’s extremely rude to be suggesting a post op trans woman is ‘a man’. | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man." Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. What are all your opinions? "One day, I hope these "questioners" will just identify themselves as "sexual", and leave it at that. Worrying about what type of "sexual" they are seems like an awful lot of effort and self-analysis to me. Must we be "things" ? I'd rather be me. | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank " Who's jumping on him | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank " Didnt know this thread was who is passable as a woman | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank Didnt know this thread was who is passable as a woman "They often go off track and deviate from the original post. Frank | |||
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"Unfortunately the world revolves on labels. Even this very site defines things to the nth degree. A "Who cares?" option would be so refreshing! But IMO no, fancying a female presenting human as a straight man would not make you gay. Especially the OP x" Thank you very much for the compliment. I'm so happy you posted. Labels are used constantly on here even when you fill your profile out about your kinks your labelling yourself. I'm proud of my label, I've fought to be who I am and that's a trans woman that's who I am. I don't care what people think I just was curious about other people's thoughts on the matter. I'm very secure in myself, so thanks for the comments | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. What are all your opinions?
One day, I hope these "questioners" will just identify themselves as "sexual", and leave it at that.
Worrying about what type of "sexual" they are seems like an awful lot of effort and self-analysis to me.
Must we be "things" ?
I'd rather be me.
"I'm not worried about anything it was a curious question to see what others think about the messages I've been getting. This site revolves around labels how else would you know you're compatible and into the same kinks. Are they not labels? | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank " Is it really necessary to bring into question who looks passable as a woman. That really wasn't anything to do with the question. I find it inappropriate. | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank Is it really necessary to bring into question who looks passable as a woman. That really wasn't anything to do with the question. I find it inappropriate. " To be fair if you ask a highly charged and leading question, you have to be prepared to get some answers you don't agree with. | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank Is it really necessary to bring into question who looks passable as a woman. That really wasn't anything to do with the question. I find it inappropriate. To be fair if you ask a highly charged and leading question, you have to be prepared to get some answers you don't agree with." It's nothing to do with the question and of course everyone's entitled to their opinion but I'm also entitled to respond | |||
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"People identify as whatever suits them best, it’s not for anyone else to decide it for them. You might disagree with the way someone identifies, but it’s none of your business. A CIS man might be attracted to a trans woman and whether he considers her male or female is up to him, whether he thinks that makes him gay or straight is also up to him. A trans woman will obviously identify as female, and that’s her business too. Whether we agree or don’t, we all need to start being more respectful of other peoples choices. You can’t tell someone what they identify as, regardless of what you think. " I'm not telling anyone what their identity is. The messages I get are "does it make me gay if I want you" (I'm talking about just myself and my reply to that question to me is no. I was just curious on the opinions of others. | |||
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"I agree "Xxx | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank "  | |||
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"Transwomen are women." YESSSSSSSS | |||
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" I'm not worried about anything it was a curious question to see what others think about the messages I've been getting. This site revolves around labels how else would you know you're compatible and into the same kinks. Are they not labels? " Apologies...I didn't make it clear. I was not saying you were the one doing the worrying...I meant the straight guys worrying about the sexuality they were. I was trying to say the amount of energy they expend worrying about themselves seems quite unnecessary. As for labels around combability, you do raise a good point. I suppose they are labels, but I think some would see them as "preferences" in the context of looking for like-minded souls. Or "signposts" perhaps. | |||
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"People identify as whatever suits them best, it’s not for anyone else to decide it for them. You might disagree with the way someone identifies, but it’s none of your business. A CIS man might be attracted to a trans woman and whether he considers her male or female is up to him, whether he thinks that makes him gay or straight is also up to him. A trans woman will obviously identify as female, and that’s her business too. Whether we agree or don’t, we all need to start being more respectful of other peoples choices. You can’t tell someone what they identify as, regardless of what you think. I'm not telling anyone what their identity is. The messages I get are "does it make me gay if I want you" (I'm talking about just myself and my reply to that question to me is no. I was just curious on the opinions of others. " Sorry, I didn’t mean you specifically. I was really referring to those trying to say that a trans woman isn’t a woman. But in general I do think these threads are tricky because identity is such a personal thing. | |||
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"Gay guys fancy men Not transwomen The guys iv slept with would never class themselves as gay But then again Labels are so overrated "Labels are overrated,its so last year  | |||
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"Yes, you probably are gay. It's dangerous to confuse identity with reality. You can identify as a kumquat if you want: reality doesn't make it so. Trans-women are exactly that (as are trans-men), hence the prefix. You can have all the surgery and drugs you want, but you will never have a period, never give birth. You can identify as a woman, but your vagina (if you have had that surgery) will always have been made from remnants of a penis or other skin grafts. There was a very interesting article yesterday about lesbians being abused by the trans community because they didn't want to sleep with trans women. They were called trans-phobic and genital fixated. All of which is total bollocks (excuse the pun). If a lesbian doesn't want to sleep with a trans-woman because her vagina is made from a penis, that's her right. In the same way, I'm straight. But presented with a woman who transed to male, again sorry, not for me. You were born a woman but decided to go male. It holds no attraction for me. And before the brigade decide to jump on my back and say I'm transphobic, please look up the definition of a phobia. If you want to be trans, good for you, I absolutely support your right to transition. But that's where it stops. You are a trans-xxxx. Biology and science cannot make you what you are not. Identify as male or female, but your biology will say otherwise " So part of what you said is you confirming that a M2F trans woman is still a man yet further down in your diatribe you also say that you wouldn't have sex with a F2M trans man because they're now a man even though they were born a woman. So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man? You do know that your views which you are entitled to hold go against the views held by people with a lot more knowledge of gender than you and of pretty much anyone on this thread and who choose to voice their opinions on this subject. There are actual trans people who are sharing their knowledge on here and elsewhere who have spent their lives living with trans issues, fighting to be who they are meant to be and having to deal with being subjected to all kinds of things you know little about yet you find it OK to tell them they're not who the medical and legal systems tell them that they are. I hate these fucking threads. | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions? "My answer to this is that if a man fancies a trans woman then he isn't gay, the very definition of being gay is being attracted to people of the same gender as yourself which for a cis male, trans women are not the same gender | |||
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"Yes, you probably are gay. It's dangerous to confuse identity with reality. You can identify as a kumquat if you want: reality doesn't make it so. Trans-women are exactly that (as are trans-men), hence the prefix. You can have all the surgery and drugs you want, but you will never have a period, never give birth. You can identify as a woman, but your vagina (if you have had that surgery) will always have been made from remnants of a penis or other skin grafts. There was a very interesting article yesterday about lesbians being abused by the trans community because they didn't want to sleep with trans women. They were called trans-phobic and genital fixated. All of which is total bollocks (excuse the pun). If a lesbian doesn't want to sleep with a trans-woman because her vagina is made from a penis, that's her right. In the same way, I'm straight. But presented with a woman who transed to male, again sorry, not for me. You were born a woman but decided to go male. It holds no attraction for me. And before the brigade decide to jump on my back and say I'm transphobic, please look up the definition of a phobia. If you want to be trans, good for you, I absolutely support your right to transition. But that's where it stops. You are a trans-xxxx. Biology and science cannot make you what you are not. Identify as male or female, but your biology will say otherwise So part of what you said is you confirming that a M2F trans woman is still a man yet further down in your diatribe you also say that you wouldn't have sex with a F2M trans man because they're now a man even though they were born a woman. So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man? You do know that your views which you are entitled to hold go against the views held by people with a lot more knowledge of gender than you and of pretty much anyone on this thread and who choose to voice their opinions on this subject. There are actual trans people who are sharing their knowledge on here and elsewhere who have spent their lives living with trans issues, fighting to be who they are meant to be and having to deal with being subjected to all kinds of things you know little about yet you find it OK to tell them they're not who the medical and legal systems tell them that they are. I hate these fucking threads." So to have any kind of valid input on this thread you need to be trans is that what you're saying? Wow I thought I'd just about heard it all  | |||
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"Yes, you probably are gay. It's dangerous to confuse identity with reality. You can identify as a kumquat if you want: reality doesn't make it so. Trans-women are exactly that (as are trans-men), hence the prefix. You can have all the surgery and drugs you want, but you will never have a period, never give birth. You can identify as a woman, but your vagina (if you have had that surgery) will always have been made from remnants of a penis or other skin grafts. There was a very interesting article yesterday about lesbians being abused by the trans community because they didn't want to sleep with trans women. They were called trans-phobic and genital fixated. All of which is total bollocks (excuse the pun). If a lesbian doesn't want to sleep with a trans-woman because her vagina is made from a penis, that's her right. In the same way, I'm straight. But presented with a woman who transed to male, again sorry, not for me. You were born a woman but decided to go male. It holds no attraction for me. And before the brigade decide to jump on my back and say I'm transphobic, please look up the definition of a phobia. If you want to be trans, good for you, I absolutely support your right to transition. But that's where it stops. You are a trans-xxxx. Biology and science cannot make you what you are not. Identify as male or female, but your biology will say otherwise So part of what you said is you confirming that a M2F trans woman is still a man yet further down in your diatribe you also say that you wouldn't have sex with a F2M trans man because they're now a man even though they were born a woman. So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man? You do know that your views which you are entitled to hold go against the views held by people with a lot more knowledge of gender than you and of pretty much anyone on this thread and who choose to voice their opinions on this subject. There are actual trans people who are sharing their knowledge on here and elsewhere who have spent their lives living with trans issues, fighting to be who they are meant to be and having to deal with being subjected to all kinds of things you know little about yet you find it OK to tell them they're not who the medical and legal systems tell them that they are. I hate these fucking threads. So to have any kind of valid input on this thread you need to be trans is that what you're saying? Wow I thought I'd just about heard it all "No that is not what I'm saying at all, sometimes people do need to do a little research though before they add in their 2 pence worth on a very complex and emotive subject and try to deny people the right to be who they are. | |||
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" Trans-women are exactly that (as are trans-men), hence the prefix. You can have all the surgery and drugs you want, but you will never have a period, never give birth. You can identify as a woman, but your vagina (if you have had that surgery) will always have been made from remnants of a penis or other skin grafts. " Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant. | |||
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" Trans-women are exactly that (as are trans-men), hence the prefix. You can have all the surgery and drugs you want, but you will never have a period, never give birth. You can identify as a woman, but your vagina (if you have had that surgery) will always have been made from remnants of a penis or other skin grafts. Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant." This right here | |||
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" Trans-women are exactly that (as are trans-men), hence the prefix. You can have all the surgery and drugs you want, but you will never have a period, never give birth. You can identify as a woman, but your vagina (if you have had that surgery) will always have been made from remnants of a penis or other skin grafts. Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant." Wonderfully put 
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"So part of what you said is you confirming that a M2F trans woman is still a man yet further down in your diatribe you also say that you wouldn't have sex with a F2M trans man because they're now a man even though they were born a woman. So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man? You do know that your views which you are entitled to hold go against the views held by people with a lot more knowledge of gender than you and of pretty much anyone on this thread and who choose to voice their opinions on this subject. There are actual trans people who are sharing their knowledge on here and elsewhere who have spent their lives living with trans issues, fighting to be who they are meant to be and having to deal with being subjected to all kinds of things you know little about yet you find it OK to tell them they're not who the medical and legal systems tell them that they are. I hate these fucking threads." | |||
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" Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant." | |||
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" Wonderfully put
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"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant." So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form? You say trans women can't have periods or give birth, therefore they're not women. Are individuals with XX chromosomes who cannot menstruate, conceive or give birth not female? Is possessing a functional uterus that bleeds monthly the defining feature of being a woman? If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman | |||
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" If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman " | |||
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"I’ve only had meaningful interaction with one trans-woman and while she is still pre op in my mind she’s a woman. However I will admit I don’t quite understand why men still chose to label them self as ‘straight’ on fab while looking TV/TS. If the body you are playing with is masculine are you truly straight? This is me asking a questions because it’s not something I know enough about but would like to understand. " Straight because they're attracted to female presenting. As for playing with masculine parts many women use strap ons and peg their straight partners. Our strap ons are just attached more securely haha | |||
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"I’ve only had meaningful interaction with one trans-woman and while she is still pre op in my mind she’s a woman. However I will admit I don’t quite understand why men still chose to label them self as ‘straight’ on fab while looking TV/TS. If the body you are playing with is masculine are you truly straight? This is me asking a questions because it’s not something I know enough about but would like to understand. " You say you don't understand why men label themselves as straight on fab but look at TV/TS, but also say you have had a meaningful interaction with a trans-woman and that she's a woman in your mind, however on your profile you're labelled as 'straight', now I am confused! x  | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions? "I’m bi and I definitely fancy trans women, if a straight guy does then that doesn’t mean he’s gay, in my eyes he’s straight | |||
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"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant. So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form? You say trans women can't have periods or give birth, therefore they're not women. Are individuals with XX chromosomes who cannot menstruate, conceive or give birth not female? Is possessing a functional uterus that bleeds monthly the defining feature of being a woman? If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman "But hey, at least HE HAS A GCSE IN BIOLOGY ….… and I’m truly deceased  | |||
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"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant. So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form? You say trans women can't have periods or give birth, therefore they're not women. Are individuals with XX chromosomes who cannot menstruate, conceive or give birth not female? Is possessing a functional uterus that bleeds monthly the defining feature of being a woman? If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman
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"Congratulation on being the first to troll. At no point did I say that a grand person is always a man. That would actually be ridiculous. Also for your belief that so many people on here know more about gender than me, possibly but again in the article yesterday, trans-women stood up for lesbians and their right and got shot diwn (and threatened). Again, I've not said anything untrue so if you hate these threads, maybe don't go on them. Eliminate perceived negativity (including me). So part of what you said is you confirming that a M2F trans woman is still a man yet further down in your diatribe you also say that you wouldn't have sex with a F2M trans man because they're now a man even though they were born a woman. So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man? You do know that your views which you are entitled to hold go against the views held by people with a lot more knowledge of gender than you and of pretty much anyone on this thread and who choose to voice their opinions on this subject. There are actual trans people who are sharing their knowledge on here and elsewhere who have spent their lives living with trans issues, fighting to be who they are meant to be and having to deal with being subjected to all kinds of things you know little about yet you find it OK to tell them they're not who the medical and legal systems tell them that they are. I hate these fucking threads." Fuck !!! I love been the first !! No point me hanging around so | |||
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"you all do look lovely on here no questioning that i think for ultra straight guys(lol) it's more a personal block due to age and the era grown up in, but yeah there are loads of trans women about who are very attractive with a nice shape that newsreader had me i didn't know she was trans very pretty reminds me of amanda holden and if amanda done les dennis i reckon all us average guys stand a chance... les dennis "The super straights … think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that | |||
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"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant. So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form? You say trans women can't have periods or give birth, therefore they're not women. Are individuals with XX chromosomes who cannot menstruate, conceive or give birth not female? Is possessing a functional uterus that bleeds monthly the defining feature of being a woman? If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman
But hey, at least HE HAS A GCSE IN BIOLOGY ….… and I’m truly deceased
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"you all do look lovely on here no questioning that i think for ultra straight guys(lol) it's more a personal block due to age and the era grown up in, but yeah there are loads of trans women about who are very attractive with a nice shape that newsreader had me i didn't know she was trans very pretty reminds me of amanda holden and if amanda done les dennis i reckon all us average guys stand a chance... les dennis
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"you all do look lovely on here no questioning that i think for ultra straight guys(lol) it's more a personal block due to age and the era grown up in, but yeah there are loads of trans women about who are very attractive with a nice shape that newsreader had me i didn't know she was trans very pretty reminds me of amanda holden and if amanda done les dennis i reckon all us average guys stand a chance... les dennis
The super straights … think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that
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"you all do look lovely on here no questioning that i think for ultra straight guys(lol) it's more a personal block due to age and the era grown up in, but yeah there are loads of trans women about who are very attractive with a nice shape that newsreader had me i didn't know she was trans very pretty reminds me of amanda holden and if amanda done les dennis i reckon all us average guys stand a chance... les dennis
The super straights … think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that "to be honest love i would have no problem dating you all petite and cute as you are hell, you would be like a trophy stood next to me. | |||
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"you all do look lovely on here no questioning that i think for ultra straight guys(lol) it's more a personal block due to age and the era grown up in, but yeah there are loads of trans women about who are very attractive with a nice shape that newsreader had me i didn't know she was trans very pretty reminds me of amanda holden and if amanda done les dennis i reckon all us average guys stand a chance... les dennis
The super straights … think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that
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"Oh dear, reductionary? At no point have I been disparaging. I have been factual. I'm not trying to gain favour by supporting views. As for attitudes, again, I have not presented an attitude but a view and scientific fact. As for your premis that if you have your uterus removed, are you less of a woman, well of course no because you had one in the first place. No trans woman ever has a uterus. As for putting it back to original form, are you seriously saying to go back to a pre-embryonic stage? Bizarre Oh dear If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman "Nobody here is claiming to be a biological anything. Even after operations and no matter how passable some may look! Having said that, as you mention MTF… you wouldn’t be attracted to them because they would look like a man, act like a man… have a beard, have muscles. But most importantly a MALE BRAIN (it’s kinda what makes him a him really) Etc and surely that’s not what attracts you to BIOLOGICAL FEMALES. If they got a full on beard and talk like you talk… even if they might have a vagina still in between their legs for you to get in. And I know that for the majority of men on here who have wives, if their wives said to them… I want to take testosterone and start my full transition into male. They wouldn’t be okay with that. It’s okay to not feel attraction to trans women (just be respectful tho!) but don’t come with your “basic knowledge” gathered from biology back in SCHOOL to teach us all what’s what and what’s not…. | |||
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"you all do look lovely on here no questioning that i think for ultra straight guys(lol) it's more a personal block due to age and the era grown up in, but yeah there are loads of trans women about who are very attractive with a nice shape that newsreader had me i didn't know she was trans very pretty reminds me of amanda holden and if amanda done les dennis i reckon all us average guys stand a chance... les dennis
The super straights … think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that
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Wouldn’t know I’m not 12 and can’t dance "I don’t have tik tok but I’ve seen these little dicks needing to voice out that “I’m only attracted to biological females who look like females” Errrr first of all , you are a tiny dick… Second of all, none fucking cares! Like seriously!! but equally, someone who identifies as straight and might like a woman who’s trans. Is still just as straight if he says so. If you don’t want to be with a trans woman just politely say “I’m sorry love, we aren’t compatible or I don’t think it’d work between us..” (I had some who couldn’t go past the notion of how I was born. Fair enough! I gracefully took the rejection without any tantrums. With some dudes I stayed friends with cos I liked them as people anyway!) Just say any of the same shit you would say to ANY other woman u don’t feel attracted to. Jeeeebussss wept not difficult | |||
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"Btw stickslad, my YOU wasn’t me referring to you personally. Just in general
Hope you got that "Course i knew that I was just kidding !!! Besides what some Nancy’s think on here I do appreciate a good point of view but someone will always have something to say I don’t take threads to seriously but to me your definitely getting a good point across | |||
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" Trans-women are exactly that (as are trans-men), hence the prefix. You can have all the surgery and drugs you want, but you will never have a period, never give birth. You can identify as a woman, but your vagina (if you have had that surgery) will always have been made from remnants of a penis or other skin grafts. Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant. Wonderfully put
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"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head. All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out. Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant. So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form? You say trans women can't have periods or give birth, therefore they're not women. Are individuals with XX chromosomes who cannot menstruate, conceive or give birth not female? Is possessing a functional uterus that bleeds monthly the defining feature of being a woman? If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman
But hey, at least HE HAS A GCSE IN BIOLOGY ….… and I’m truly deceased
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"Oh dear, reductionary? At no point have I been disparaging. I have been factual. I'm not trying to gain favour by supporting views. As for attitudes, again, I have not presented an attitude but a view and scientific fact. As for your premis that if you have your uterus removed, are you less of a woman, well of course no because you had one in the first place. No trans woman ever has a uterus. As for putting it back to original form, are you seriously saying to go back to a pre-embryonic stage? Bizarre Oh dear If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman
Nobody here is claiming to be a biological anything. Even after operations and no matter how passable some may look!
Having said that, as you mention MTF… you wouldn’t be attracted to them because they would look like a man, act like a man… have a beard, have muscles. But most importantly a MALE BRAIN (it’s kinda what makes him a him really) Etc and surely that’s not what attracts you to BIOLOGICAL FEMALES. If they got a full on beard and talk like you talk… even if they might have a vagina still in between their legs for you to get in.
And I know that for the majority of men on here who have wives, if their wives said to them… I want to take testosterone and start my full transition into male. They wouldn’t be okay with that.
It’s okay to not feel attraction to trans women (just be respectful tho!) but don’t come with your “basic knowledge” gathered from biology back in SCHOOL to teach us all what’s what and what’s not…. "THIS... ALL THIS! | |||
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"I dunno? It seems more complicated than just a yes or no answer There’s trans on here that are so ultra feminine I think you’d be gay to not fancy them However if I said I was trans and a guy was still interested I’d think he was gay I think it’s a case by case kinda thing. But either way, fuck labels, fuckkkk who you want " When you free | |||
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"I dunno? It seems more complicated than just a yes or no answer There’s trans on here that are so ultra feminine I think you’d be gay to not fancy them However if I said I was trans and a guy was still interested I’d think he was gay I think it’s a case by case kinda thing. But either way, fuck labels, fuckkkk who you want When you free " Now bby I’ll put the kettle on | |||
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"It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness…. Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour…. I often experience profiles, males or conversations where self confessed straight men entertain same sex interactions let alone what is being talked about in this thread…. Now for me, if this is something you are willing to partake in at minimum you are bi-curious not straight, i find the statement of “im straight, but i’d play with a man” as a contradiction in terms, that being said, as i said earlier each to their own, i just think “own it” duuude…. However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human Lets be honest we all have a friend that has sent us a video of a fucking stunning woman… then “boing” into eyeshot comes the (quite frankly emasculatingly large appendage fleshpencil) i can appreciate the aesthetic value, without any inclination to want to act on it…. I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not” " Just want to point out that for a lot of trans women, showing off the OG can be rather painful (some do for the £) Some are comfortable with it, some are not …to the point that going for SRS (so have a surgically made beautiful foof) is the only solution. Personally speaking, every man that has been with me NEVER EVER asked to have any interaction with the part I was sadly given at birth… as it makes me extremely dysphoric. (And In that sense ..I’m still virgin till I get my main op) The men Ive had something with, were with me because they see/saw a woman x end of the story | |||
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"It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness…. Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour…. I often experience profiles, males or conversations where self confessed straight men entertain same sex interactions let alone what is being talked about in this thread…. Now for me, if this is something you are willing to partake in at minimum you are bi-curious not straight, i find the statement of “im straight, but i’d play with a man” as a contradiction in terms, that being said, as i said earlier each to their own, i just think “own it” duuude…. However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human Lets be honest we all have a friend that has sent us a video of a fucking stunning woman… then “boing” into eyeshot comes the (quite frankly emasculatingly large appendage fleshpencil) i can appreciate the aesthetic value, without any inclination to want to act on it…. I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not” Just want to point out that for a lot of trans women, showing off the OG can be rather painful (some do for the £) Some are comfortable with it, some are not …to the point that going for SRS (so have a surgically made beautiful foof) is the only solution. Personally speaking, every man that has been with me NEVER EVER asked to have any interaction with the part I was sadly given at birth… as it makes me extremely dysphoric. (And In that sense ..I’m still virgin till I get my main op) The men Ive had something with, were with me because they see/saw a woman x end of the story "Pardon my ignorance, please educate me :/ OG? SRS? Sorry | |||
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"It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness…. Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour…. I often experience profiles, males or conversations where self confessed straight men entertain same sex interactions let alone what is being talked about in this thread…. Now for me, if this is something you are willing to partake in at minimum you are bi-curious not straight, i find the statement of “im straight, but i’d play with a man” as a contradiction in terms, that being said, as i said earlier each to their own, i just think “own it” duuude…. However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human Lets be honest we all have a friend that has sent us a video of a fucking stunning woman… then “boing” into eyeshot comes the (quite frankly emasculatingly large appendage fleshpencil) i can appreciate the aesthetic value, without any inclination to want to act on it…. I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not” Just want to point out that for a lot of trans women, showing off the OG can be rather painful (some do for the £) Some are comfortable with it, some are not …to the point that going for SRS (so have a surgically made beautiful foof) is the only solution. Personally speaking, every man that has been with me NEVER EVER asked to have any interaction with the part I was sadly given at birth… as it makes me extremely dysphoric. (And In that sense ..I’m still virgin till I get my main op) The men Ive had something with, were with me because they see/saw a woman x end of the story "You causing trouble again ??? | |||
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"There are some hot trans women who I'd gladly spend time with (Mrs grealish )
However that doesn't mean I'd head into the toilets with big Dave from the pub. The attraction just isn't there. Sorry big Dave.
It's a spectrum but some people think it's black and white. "Hahahahahahaha “awwww poor big dave” *big dave sat at home in his room in his pants just smashed the fuck out of his pc with a cricket bat* hahaha “fuuuuuuuck” | |||
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"It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness…. Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour…. I often experience profiles, males or conversations where self confessed straight men entertain same sex interactions let alone what is being talked about in this thread…. Now for me, if this is something you are willing to partake in at minimum you are bi-curious not straight, i find the statement of “im straight, but i’d play with a man” as a contradiction in terms, that being said, as i said earlier each to their own, i just think “own it” duuude…. However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human Lets be honest we all have a friend that has sent us a video of a fucking stunning woman… then “boing” into eyeshot comes the (quite frankly emasculatingly large appendage fleshpencil) i can appreciate the aesthetic value, without any inclination to want to act on it…. I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not” Just want to point out that for a lot of trans women, showing off the OG can be rather painful (some do for the £) Some are comfortable with it, some are not …to the point that going for SRS (so have a surgically made beautiful foof) is the only solution. Personally speaking, every man that has been with me NEVER EVER asked to have any interaction with the part I was sadly given at birth… as it makes me extremely dysphoric. (And In that sense ..I’m still virgin till I get my main op) The men Ive had something with, were with me because they see/saw a woman x end of the story
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The super straights … think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that "I think super straight started on Reddit and spread to TT and Twitter. I thought that was more about reclaiming gay as same sex attracted not same gender attracted as Stonewall now define it. But I just saw it in passing tbh. | |||
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"As I see it, this discussion is very much people trying to place sexuality into boxes and to make a binary definition, whereas sexuality is fluid and for the vast majority (contrary to assertions) is in shades of grey. Trans women are women. I will say though, if you’re so concerned about what is between their legs and it’s causing you to question your sexuality, then perhaps that sexuality needs examining, irrespective of the partners gender? " To be fair if some guy was very keen to whats between a trans woman’s legs … then I’d say it kinda needs to be addressed/questioned. It certainly would be a no from me dawgggg x | |||
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The super straights … think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that
I think super straight started on Reddit and spread to TT and Twitter. I thought that was more about reclaiming gay as same sex attracted not same gender attracted as Stonewall now define it. But I just saw it in passing tbh. "To be fair I’ve heard some right crap on the Internet including James Charles saying he’s not actually 100% gay because he’s attracted to trans men
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Someone mentioned an ‘interesting article’ earlier where lesbians were saying they were being coerced into sleeping with trans women…. That article used an anti trans group as the test subjects for the ‘research’. 80% of gay women have not been pressured to sleep with trans women.
I’m a trans woman and want to get one last red herring out of the way; I know I’ll never be a cis woman. I know there will always be differences and that cuts me to the bone. I’m not claiming to be equal to cis women. I’m female inside. I was brought up to try to act male and my body/face has sustained damage from the presence of testosterone for many years. I can’t undo all of that.
I also know I’m more feminine than any woman I’ve ever had a relationship with. I was attracted to them for their masculinity not their femininity. Being pretty and girl shaped didn’t make them feminine.
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"I’ve only had meaningful interaction with one trans-woman and while she is still pre op in my mind she’s a woman. However I will admit I don’t quite understand why men still chose to label them self as ‘straight’ on fab while looking TV/TS. If the body you are playing with is masculine are you truly straight? This is me asking a questions because it’s not something I know enough about but would like to understand. You say you don't understand why men label themselves as straight on fab but look at TV/TS, but also say you have had a meaningful interaction with a trans-woman and that she's a woman in your mind, however on your profile you're labelled as 'straight', now I am confused! x "My interaction with her was always work related, nothing to do with sex or fab. | |||
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"I dunno? It seems more complicated than just a yes or no answer There’s trans on here that are so ultra feminine I think you’d be gay to not fancy them However if I said I was trans and a guy was still interested I’d think he was gay I think it’s a case by case kinda thing. But either way, fuck labels, fuckkkk who you want When you free Now bby I’ll put the kettle on " Xx | |||
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"Not sure but I’m not putting myself In a pigeon hole. I likes what I likes "Xxx | |||
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"If I see beauty in a person. Regardless of gender I will tell that person. " Thanks | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions? "Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me… As a female presenting trans woman who considers herself female, would you entertain the idea of intimate relations with a man who didn’t consider you female? He might be very genuinely attracted to you, perhaps even want to date, but considered himself bi because of his attraction to you. Would that put you off? | |||
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"Of course not. I like women but I’m not gay. " It’s the thought that it’s either or that makes me too! | |||
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"Does fancying a woman make you a gay man? I’d think not. If you’re a man who seeks trans women hoping they have a penis you can touch, then I’d suggest you’re bi. Men attracted to femininity clearly aren’t gay. They may be bi though. " Agreed. There always seems to be so much panic from certain straight men about what specific acts do or don’t make you a different sexuality. Being gay or bi isn’t a stain on your life! News flash; sex acts don’t change your sexuality, they might reveal it but you already were that before | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions? "I don’t like generalisations and pigeon-holing. I find it absolutely pointless. Attempts to say “well if you do this then you fit into this near category...” ... why do I need to be categorised? If I find someone attractive, I find someone attractive, and that includes a very broad range of people based on my experiences I’ve the last 3 decades or so. Does that include t’s? Absolutely! Does that make me gay? I don’t think so, and don’t care if it means that someone else thinks I’m gay. That just doesn’t matter to me. | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions? "I think it’s a subjective question I. Relation to it’s how the person you asks perceive sexuality, gender, and labels etc. I wish we could all just forget names for sexuality and live to be free as we want with who we want | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions?
Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…
As a female presenting trans woman who considers herself female, would you entertain the idea of intimate relations with a man who didn’t consider you female? He might be very genuinely attracted to you, perhaps even want to date, but considered himself bi because of his attraction to you. Would that put you off? "It’d be a problem for me if he didn’t see me as a woman/female yes. I don’t give a shit if he’s bisexual or bi curious or if he labels himself as straight. All I’m saying is that majority (like 90%) of the men who took interest in me label themselves as straight. (And a good amount of these men, admitted Im their first as well) The rest are openly bisexual | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions?
Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…
As a female presenting trans woman who considers herself female, would you entertain the idea of intimate relations with a man who didn’t consider you female? He might be very genuinely attracted to you, perhaps even want to date, but considered himself bi because of his attraction to you. Would that put you off?
It’d be a problem for me if he didn’t see me as a woman/female yes.
I don’t give a shit if he’s bisexual or bi curious or if he labels himself as straight.
All I’m saying is that majority (like 90%) of the men who took interest in me label themselves as straight. (And a good amount of these men, admitted Im their first as well)
The rest are openly bisexual "I thought that would be the answer. Thanks for sharing | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions?
Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…
As a female presenting trans woman who considers herself female, would you entertain the idea of intimate relations with a man who didn’t consider you female? He might be very genuinely attracted to you, perhaps even want to date, but considered himself bi because of his attraction to you. Would that put you off? "Yes that would put me off because I am female inside and now working on the outside now that I've climbed that wall of hate and bitterness. I am not a man so if someone viewed me as such then that means he doesn't see me. So yeah it would affect it most definitely | |||
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"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that )
I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...
What are all your opinions?
Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…
As a female presenting trans woman who considers herself female, would you entertain the idea of intimate relations with a man who didn’t consider you female? He might be very genuinely attracted to you, perhaps even want to date, but considered himself bi because of his attraction to you. Would that put you off?
Yes that would put me off because I am female inside and now working on the outside now that I've climbed that wall of hate and bitterness. I am not a man so if someone viewed me as such then that means he doesn't see me. So yeah it would affect it most definitely "I understand. Thanks for sharing | |||
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"Apologies not read the full thread, but to answer your question it’s a No. you’re not gay if you’re attracted to a trans person, male or female. There are people who see those as they are and are happy to date them in a heterosexual manner. I get fed up of people telling others what they are, all that matters is what you think you are and what a potential partner also agrees that’s how they see you. The future brings all sorts of possibilities for growth especially around sexuality and gender recognition. More people are accepting these days, open to new ideas and that should be embraced. Good luck with yours Op, we all deserve to be happy and loved. "Xxx | |||
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"Am I a man or a woman in this scenario ?" It all depends if you still have your uterus, Granny | |||
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"‘Identifying as’ is a red herring. I don’t identify as female; I am female. I was born female but I had a horrendous deformity. The people attracted to me aren’t attracted because they’re gay, they see tits and ass and want to fuck my pussy. Ass. Mouth…. You get my drift
Someone mentioned an ‘interesting article’ earlier where lesbians were saying they were being coerced into sleeping with trans women…. That article used an anti trans group as the test subjects for the ‘research’. 80% of gay women have not been pressured to sleep with trans women.
I’m a trans woman and want to get one last red herring out of the way; I know I’ll never be a cis woman. I know there will always be differences and that cuts me to the bone. I’m not claiming to be equal to cis women. I’m female inside. "******** Ummmm..... you are equal though?? You're a woman and a human, why does this not make you equal?? | |||
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"There are some hot trans women who I'd gladly spend time with (Mrs grealish )
However that doesn't mean I'd head into the toilets with big Dave from the pub. The attraction just isn't there. Sorry big Dave.
It's a spectrum but some people think it's black and white. "Spectrum or Speculum? | |||
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"Am I a man or a woman in this scenario ? It all depends if you still have your uterus, Granny "I have but what if I didn't and didn't have a knob ? | |||
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"There is only two genders, female and male...you feel and dress like a woman but your gender is male and guys who attract you are bi curious or bisex...they could be straight also just eager for new adventures " Thanks so much for providing us with this incredible educational lesson. I shall be forever grateful for your contribution | |||
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"There is only two genders, female and male...you feel and dress like a woman but your gender is male and guys who attract you are bi curious or bisex...they could be straight also just eager for new adventures " So you've just completely invalidated transgender people? Ugh what year is it!? | |||
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"There is only two genders, female and male...you feel and dress like a woman but your gender is male and guys who attract you are bi curious or bisex...they could be straight also just eager for new adventures Thanks so much for providing us with this incredible educational lesson. I shall be forever grateful for your contribution "Your sarcasm just gives me life girl ha | |||
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"There is only two genders, female and male...you feel and dress like a woman but your gender is male and guys who attract you are bi curious or bisex...they could be straight also just eager for new adventures Thanks so much for providing us with this incredible educational lesson. I shall be forever grateful for your contribution
Your sarcasm just gives me life girl ha "I’m literally done I cantttttt anymore!!! | |||
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"Just had a thought, if you are a trans woman and fancy another trans woman, what then?" Well apparently according to some of the professors in this thread. It’s just a gay couple pretending to be nancies
Who am I to object all these researchers and doctors on here? X | |||
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"Genetics are genetics, " Hahahahaha that's all I can manage | |||
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"Just had a thought, if you are a trans woman and fancy another trans woman, what then? Well apparently according to some of the professors in this thread. It’s just a gay couple pretending to be nancies
Who am I to object all these researchers and doctors on here? X "I always trust those more educated than myself, it's good to know one's failings so we can better ourselves | |||
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"Am I a man or a woman in this scenario ? It all depends if you still have your uterus, Granny
I have but what if I didn't and didn't have a knob ?"Then you are probably a fungus, Granny. Perhaps a little yeasty number? | |||
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"Genetics are genetics, " I see. And the answer to the headline question? | |||
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"Genetics are genetics, " Brexit is Brexit | |||
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"Genetics are genetics, I see. And the answer to the headline question? " That’s all you are getting from mystique Meg!! Don’t be greedy | |||
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"There is only two genders, female and male...you feel and dress like a woman but your gender is male and guys who attract you are bi curious or bisex...they could be straight also just eager for new adventures " very brave of you to share such a strong opinion from behind a silhouette. the trans people on here are very nice, MS G especially. if you are that convinced you are right then it's not an opinion worth sharing. | |||
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"Yes. But I don't think it matters " Why would you think a man who’s attracted to someone feminine be gay? | |||
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"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man. Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority. There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two. Frank " You're not allowed a different opinion on this matter. Did you not get the memo? I don't care who people sleep with. I don't care how people identify. There are some extremely beautiful transwomen (pre or post op) with bodies I would die for. But if I meet someone in person I can almost always tell if they are a biological man. It's none of my business how people live their lives and I'm not particularly interested either. But to suggest that transwomen and women are the same thing is incorrect. And sex is observed at birth, not assigned. | |||
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"There is only two genders, female and male...you feel and dress like a woman but your gender is male and guys who attract you are bi curious or bisex...they could be straight also just eager for new adventures very brave of you to share such a strong opinion from behind a silhouette. the trans people on here are very nice, MS G especially. if you are that convinced you are right then it's not an opinion worth sharing. " He didn't say anyone wasn't nice. He expressed an opinion. | |||
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